No it ins't, neither Marvel or DC care about "products" if they did they wouldn't be destroyed by Shonen sales literally every single month ever since the 90s
Almost every single DC film was been a badly CGI’d Quipfest that tries to emulate the MCU (Blue Beetle, The Flash, The Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman 84, Birds of Prey and the emancipation of one Harley Quinn)
Even the comics are constantly trying to copy Mavrel comics by making all their characters gay/“bi” and constant talk about political issues.
visaggio Is just upset that Zaslav wont let them make Conner Kent a transsexual despite allowing Jon Kent a boyfriend. And Visaggio is having a mental breakdown.
Yeah, that's what they were really trying to push for years now but DC said no
Mags is now pissed that DC announced new Elseworlds because even "Connie Kent" can't be a thing in that
I just think DC doesn't want another IanS regardless of canonicity
Yeah, that's what they were really trying to push for years now but DC said no
Mags is now pissed that DC announced new Elseworlds because even "Connie Kent" can't be a thing in that
I just think DC doesn't want another IanS regardless of canonicity
>want to get into other characters besides Batman >"well, you see, this character showed up in issues #547-566 of a team book in the 80s which is the best work done on the character but they've never had a solo book outside of a failed 5 issue mini from the 2000s that nobody liked" >just go back to reading more Batman comics
It's a way to get in diversity retcons in the door now. Just check the gay romance Allan Scott book.
Since this thread is gonna be dogshit regardless, what are some other similar pitches for characters that got rejected?
Usually, the pros are professional, so they don't air their dirty laundry or conflicts. Mags clearly is trying for a pressure campaign for a trans book by doing this. That said, I'll count this shit:
The rape of wonder woman by Mark Millar
New Warriors by Kibblesmith.
Holy Terror by Frank Miller.
The Brown Bomber, a racist that turns into a black superhero.
>Mags clearly is trying for a pressure campaign for a trans book by doing this.
Not shit
Mags went from "This is never gonna happen" to "I give it 5 years until someone has Connie from another universe show up and then Prime Connor breaks"
Mags doesn't even work for DC as anything but a freelancer
At least Tom Taylor has an exclusive contract and Williamson has a stronger history at the company
https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/people/16904/magdalene-visaggio/comics
Literally only wrote for 5 issues at DC and some of them were just back-up/short stories
Punisher kills an innocent and becomes a priest. A story that has been pitched multiple times.
>Chuck Dixon: don Daley, my old editor on the Punisher back in the DeFalco days at Marvel, had a drawer full of scripts labeled “The Ultimate Punisher Story.” He let me read a few of them one time. There were scripts by wannabe and amateurs and a surprising number of top talents. They were of varying degrees of competence and professionalism. The one thing they had in common was that they were all the same story. In each story the Punisher accidentally kills an innocent. A child. A nun. A cop. Frank Castle then quits being the Punisher and becomes a priest. In every story. Every damned one. In some he quits being the Punisher forever and in others he’s dragged back into the vigilante game for some compelling reason. The other element that these scripts shared other than inciting incident, plot and resolution was that they got the core character of Frank Castle so entirely wrong that it was breath-taking. Unable to come up with a story for the Punisher, they decided to break the franchise and glue it back together in a new form they could understand.
Look Mags, I know that you're salty about your pitch getting rejected and you have a point in there being too many Batbooks, but you do realize that Zaslav is not involved with DC Comics at all and you instead come off as an actual douche towards the people who are working on those books, right?
Not sure about characters turning trans but I do know that Slott recently revealed in a conversation with a fan that he wanted to make Johnny Storm and Wyatt Wingfoot a couple during his run on FF but got rejected by editorial
Of course this is correct, but obviously this is a meme bait thread like 40% of the posts lately so have at it
No it ins't, neither Marvel or DC care about "products" if they did they wouldn't be destroyed by Shonen sales literally every single month ever since the 90s
You know what to do.
Rolling!
Alright
You know just how to cheer me up. I'll roll
arrroook same
Why are Darkness and Wiz in there?
ROLLLLLLLL
70 BOUND BOYS CHECKEM
I mean yeah. She’s not a great writer but she’s right. People eat up batshit and “dark” stuff. Basically the only dc comics that sell.
DC Comics hasn’t been dark in forever.
Almost every single DC film was been a badly CGI’d Quipfest that tries to emulate the MCU (Blue Beetle, The Flash, The Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman 84, Birds of Prey and the emancipation of one Harley Quinn)
Even the comics are constantly trying to copy Mavrel comics by making all their characters gay/“bi” and constant talk about political issues.
visaggio Is just upset that Zaslav wont let them make Conner Kent a transsexual despite allowing Jon Kent a boyfriend. And Visaggio is having a mental breakdown.
>in forever
Didn't they have Ennis work on a Batman story?
>visaggio Is just upset that Zaslav wont let them make Conner Kent a transsexual
Is this real?
yes
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qirpgcrxc5qehmvr3verk/SKYROCKET_-Conner-Kent-Pitch-4.pdf?rlkey=gvlojwlipfgkz8uls1g622429&dl=0
https://twitter.com/MagsVisaggs/status/1711385314353168583
https://twitter.com/MagsVisaggs/status/1711384536817287428
Yes.
Yeah, that's what they were really trying to push for years now but DC said no
Mags is now pissed that DC announced new Elseworlds because even "Connie Kent" can't be a thing in that
I just think DC doesn't want another IanS regardless of canonicity
It is
omg ya'll, like...?
No not really
I don't care for Connor Kent that much and even I don't want the catalog to be in flames if it ever did happen
>Birds of Prey and the emancipation of one Harley Quinn
What a dumb title.
>Implying Zaslav cares about comics
>she
>want to get into other characters besides Batman
>"well, you see, this character showed up in issues #547-566 of a team book in the 80s which is the best work done on the character but they've never had a solo book outside of a failed 5 issue mini from the 2000s that nobody liked"
>just go back to reading more Batman comics
>strawman gibberish
Do you even know what an Elseworld fricking is?
It's a way to get in diversity retcons in the door now. Just check the gay romance Allan Scott book.
Usually, the pros are professional, so they don't air their dirty laundry or conflicts. Mags clearly is trying for a pressure campaign for a trans book by doing this. That said, I'll count this shit:
The rape of wonder woman by Mark Millar
New Warriors by Kibblesmith.
Holy Terror by Frank Miller.
The Brown Bomber, a racist that turns into a black superhero.
Eat skub and skibidi on your throne, spanky.
>Mags clearly is trying for a pressure campaign for a trans book by doing this.
Not shit
Mags went from "This is never gonna happen" to "I give it 5 years until someone has Connie from another universe show up and then Prime Connor breaks"
Mags doesn't even work for DC as anything but a freelancer
At least Tom Taylor has an exclusive contract and Williamson has a stronger history at the company
https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/people/16904/magdalene-visaggio/comics
Literally only wrote for 5 issues at DC and some of them were just back-up/short stories
>Literally only wrote for 5 issues at DC and some of them were just back-up/short stories
You missed the Young Animal comics which makes it 16
Oh right, forgot League has imprints like that and Vertigo as separate
Still though, not exactly a strong resume to make such a drastic change
Wonder Woman: Bondage by Frank Miller
>Mags clearly is trying for a pressure campaign for a trans book by doing this
Will it work?
Naturally
>Mags genuinely believes transgender Connor Kent would have increased sales
Meanwhile Hawkgirl is still a miniseries
Since this thread is gonna be dogshit regardless, what are some other similar pitches for characters that got rejected?
Please stay on topic and feign outrage
Punisher kills an innocent and becomes a priest. A story that has been pitched multiple times.
>Chuck Dixon: don Daley, my old editor on the Punisher back in the DeFalco days at Marvel, had a drawer full of scripts labeled “The Ultimate Punisher Story.” He let me read a few of them one time. There were scripts by wannabe and amateurs and a surprising number of top talents. They were of varying degrees of competence and professionalism. The one thing they had in common was that they were all the same story. In each story the Punisher accidentally kills an innocent. A child. A nun. A cop. Frank Castle then quits being the Punisher and becomes a priest. In every story. Every damned one. In some he quits being the Punisher forever and in others he’s dragged back into the vigilante game for some compelling reason. The other element that these scripts shared other than inciting incident, plot and resolution was that they got the core character of Frank Castle so entirely wrong that it was breath-taking. Unable to come up with a story for the Punisher, they decided to break the franchise and glue it back together in a new form they could understand.
>that last line
God damn that describes an extremely familiar phenomenon.
Funny how this happened in War Zone, only minus the priest part since that would have made for a dull film.
Look Mags, I know that you're salty about your pitch getting rejected and you have a point in there being too many Batbooks, but you do realize that Zaslav is not involved with DC Comics at all and you instead come off as an actual douche towards the people who are working on those books, right?
Not sure about characters turning trans but I do know that Slott recently revealed in a conversation with a fan that he wanted to make Johnny Storm and Wyatt Wingfoot a couple during his run on FF but got rejected by editorial
Shooter claims that Bill Mantlo pitched a story of Spider-Man fathering an illigitimate child
>We go Spider-Man on fricking underoos and you want him to be a deadbeat dad? Get the frick out of my office.
Someone wanted to give Spider-man a bastard child and Jim Shooter told him absolutely not.
Who's next to Shooter?
I don't know a lot of artists by sight, but that looks like Wally Wood to me.
thats a man
I don’t think Zaslav cares about DC comic publishing but she is right it’s bullshit Elseworlds and the Black Label have been like 90% Batshit
Do you really think Zaslav even knows his company has a comic publishing arm, rather than just owning the film rights to superheroes?