Old gay man moment
I'm a millennial who stays current
I look younger, I have more energy and I understand zommers and the rainbow tapestry of terminally online culture.
I'm gonna live to be 150 and I'll be fricking gen Qs while you rot in the ground
Mind over matter old man
The funny part is that it was shot on a really good camera (Sony FX6). But the director took the raw footage from the DP and just shitted it all up with his meme filters. That camera guy must have been super pissed. LOL.
I enjoyed it past the unnecessary loud noises and meta info. I just hope it informs the horror industry they can go all the way and not lose money doing it. Horror is way lame, need to kick it up a notch.
This movie had more brutality than the vast majority of horror coming from the past 10 years. Hate their failure to maintain scope in the film, this is absolutely the right way to do it in regards to the horror aspects.
This was possibly one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Aside from clicking into and out of bad movies for laughs, I usually never turn things off halfway. This dogshit filtered me and anyone who says it’s good secretly loves skibidi toilets.
The filmmaker in interviews sounds like a total moronic homosexual too. He doesn’t seem to even have a core knowledge of horror film classics. No wonder it’s as entertaining as a creepypasta YouTube clips video.
>The filmmaker in interviews sounds like a total moronic homosexual too. He doesn’t seem to even have a core knowledge of horror film classics.
Post an example, I wanna see
Was all this shilling for this piece of shit on here last year from the actual studios? Or was someone legit trolling us? I wanna punch out the guy who recommended this on Cinemaphile frick you
My theater cucks showed me the trailer and then didn't actually showed the movie because they probably knew I'd be the only one paying to watch. Just like only me and another dude watched Spain's Venus. Frickers, I'd have even bought concessions without a discount!
It’s self-indulgent shit. It’s the experimental noise music of movies where only the person involved making it got the most entertainment from the product because he was making it
How is that not an incredibly based and Chad move to make only art or music that you can enjoy? Are you some kind of communist homosexual that thinks art is for everyone? (Not that I think movies are art, but they're a shorthand for art)
would you be willing to recommend the best film of the experimental avant-garde genre? i'm slightly expecting it to be the film gabe showed in the office but if you come through with something cool that would be nice too
unspeakably, mind-numbingly boring dogshit wank; it DARES you to watch it without falling asleep. i'd say its all style & no substance, but its idea of "style" consists of dark af, barely visible, 10 minute long shots of walls & doors & carpets applied with a shitty fake VHS tape filter. absolutely abyssmal, go watch Terrifier or something
Has there ever been a film that stretched an "aesthetic" over the length of the film and succeeded?
it's something music does all the time, but film struggles to do the same thing.
its pathos vs logos: music is a predominantly emotional medium, not a logical one like film or novels, so you dont need to actively think about & remain engaged with it, although you can if you understand how it works & know how to analyze it objectively. one cant just passively "feel" movies or stories the way one can with music
>one cant just passively "feel" movies
It's the general prevailing tradition for film's to prioritize stories, but there have also been experimental film makers and artists creating films and video-art that goes solely for the "feel"
Even with writing, there's poetry where the focus is on the musical-like rhythm and beautiful phrases rather than story.
Didn't people say that artist was boring wank too? Usually the more active attention and focus the audience needs to sacrifice to understand a piece of art, the more they're just going to roll their eyes and say its pretentious. That's how a lot of consumers are these days.
even if you find that to be the case, (which is wrong, by the way) there are many albums with a similar idea of stretching an aesthetic over a full album that were successful in their endeavor and made meaningful music out of it.
>similar idea of stretching an aesthetic over a full album that were successful in their endeavor and made meaningful music out of it. >pic not related
Didn't people say that artist was boring wank too? Usually the more active attention and focus the audience needs to sacrifice to understand a piece of art, the more they're just going to roll their eyes and say its pretentious. That's how a lot of consumers are these days.
its big band vaporwave, dude cuts out loops of 1930s jazz pop songs and slows and reverbs them. it can be pretty bg music but the hype surrounding his 7 hour long alzheimers album is zoomer soi bullshit
>Yeah that album is just cut and paste zoomer trash
elaborate.
What this anon said - it's not procedurally difficult to make music like that and tacking on "profound" titles to the songs doesn't make the songs themselves profound
Maybe Max Mad Fury Road. But even that had a bare-bones story going on. But people love it because of it's visual aesthetic. Narratively it's a piece of shit. Songs are much shorter, like 3-10 mins long. A feature film is going to be at least 75 mins long. You can't stretch an aesthetic that far unless there is something else going on as well. Even the most "random" or "abstract" films often have more going on that meets the eye.
>Narratively it's a piece of shit.
The narrative is perfectly fine and doesn't need to be anything more than an excuse to watch apocalypse cars blow each other up, because that's the best part of the movie and what it wants to focus on
You're a dumbass
The major problem with The Caretaker’s music is it has no merits. If you were to go in with zero context about why this should be important then you wouldn’t care because it’s just edited loops and noise
>Has there ever been a film that stretched an "aesthetic" over the length of the film
Don't a lot of movies do that? The aesthetics are a huge part of film, with it being a visual medium.
Sleep Has Her House (2017)
Behemoth (2015)
Leviathan (2012)
At Sea (2007)
The Hart of London (1970)
Begotten (1990)
Night Awake (2016)
And YES! SKINAMARINK TOO!!!! 😀
I watched it knowing nothing about it, realized the whole movie was going to be gimmicky bullshit 15 minutes in, and turned it off. Now I see hour long video essays about how this and shit like the Mandela Catalog are "real horror that the world isn't ready for"
While I agree with the majority of this thread, that Skinamstink is indeed boring, I have seen nobody mention anything about the subject matter nor the sound design. These are the only two worthwhile aspects of the film , OP. If disembodied voices in the dark and long silences get under your skin then you might enjoy it, but I'll warn you that what mildy coherent plot there is will require a good and quiet setup to discern and actually follow.
I respect what the director was going for but its too barebones to be interesting beyond the gimmick.
I loved it, but it's nothing like a conventional horror movie.
It's more like a horror version of an experimental art film.
Like if James Benning made a remake of Poltergeist.
Hated it my first watch but then actually enjoyed it my second watch when I was trying to trick friends into watching it. What drops the movie like 3 points out of 10 is him deciding there needed to be loud ass jumpscares. It almost ruins the movie because now you're not trying to get immersed in the camera work but instead constantly fricking with the volume to try and dodge having someone scream in your ear. It's so loud it clips the mic the movie used. Someone should just edit those out honestly. Stupid ass decision.
What I liked. >the camera angles making the empty rooms of the house feel bigger and more foreboding than they actually are >the two kid leads feel like kids.
I know that sounds obvious but a Hollywood movie would have these kids inventing shit to fight the skinamarink or whatever and yelling IM NOT AFRAID OF YOU. Their mind isn't developed yet so their subdued reactions to some weirder shit is convincing. >the whole story is uniquely mean spirited without just being a torture porn.
The whole movie is the skinamarink torturing these two kids that do not deserve it in the slightest and it creates this uniquely hopeless experience which made the movie more interesting to me. >the plot is literal
It's not some stupid metaphor or some twist of OH THE KID WAS IN A COMA THE WHOLE TIME. It's all literal and it makes it more brutal that way.
I totally get how this is a movie critics enjoyed but marvel fans can't. You definitely need to have patience for it, which audiences like Cinemaphile would never have because their brain is on twitter and tiktok 24/7. This thread of people going hysterical about how "bad" it is without actually saying why is a perfect example.
>Loss of immersion because of jumpscares
very very true. Honestly I'd probably turn this movie on in the background while I go to sleep at night if it weren't for the volume spikes, it's a weirdly cozy film.
It didn't affect me too much but as an experiment in "architectural horror" I'd tentatively call it a success. The feelings of isolation and abandonment were clearly very close to the director and I think he manifests those ideas pretty well at times. I'll gladly take something messy but unique over some awfully masturbatory A24 product.
I think it's one of those films (?) that either you care about it or you don't, there's no inbetween and there's no sense in going on screeching tirades about how ""bad"" it is or whatever. Getting mad about it would be like getting mad at a shape, like a square, just because it's not a different triangle.
Skinamarink is a weird experiment in ambiance an amorphous horror with a narrow enough vision to fit into a small budget without feeling low-budget. I like experimental films sometimes so for me it was kino.
The latter. Don't bother watching if you're not a zommer yourself.
Old gay man moment
I'm a millennial who stays current
I look younger, I have more energy and I understand zommers and the rainbow tapestry of terminally online culture.
I'm gonna live to be 150 and I'll be fricking gen Qs while you rot in the ground
Mind over matter old man
It’s legitimately unwatchable and I’ve sat through picrelated
It's boring as frick, couldn't watch more than 15 minutes. Maybe it's watchable if you watched it in theaters with a friend or something
nope. walked out after 15 min. realized it wasn't going to change course so why waste my time when filming my wall is more productive
it's just hipster wank.
i was so pissed i got memed into watching this unwatchable dogshit
Yeah it's basically just a Youtube video of the dude's house with a "spooky" filter over it.
The funny part is that it was shot on a really good camera (Sony FX6). But the director took the raw footage from the DP and just shitted it all up with his meme filters. That camera guy must have been super pissed. LOL.
I enjoyed it past the unnecessary loud noises and meta info. I just hope it informs the horror industry they can go all the way and not lose money doing it. Horror is way lame, need to kick it up a notch.
>Horror is way lame, need to kick it up a notch.
This ain't the way to do it.
This movie had more brutality than the vast majority of horror coming from the past 10 years. Hate their failure to maintain scope in the film, this is absolutely the right way to do it in regards to the horror aspects.
>This movie had more brutality
Did it? I thought it was minute long shots of walls and shit. It's brutal?
Brutality ≠ Horror
imagine if James Benning made an action movie
that's what this is
This was possibly one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Aside from clicking into and out of bad movies for laughs, I usually never turn things off halfway. This dogshit filtered me and anyone who says it’s good secretly loves skibidi toilets.
>they’ll make skidibi toilets movie after they the Five Nights at Freddie’s one is released
Don’t give them ideas anon
The filmmaker in interviews sounds like a total moronic homosexual too. He doesn’t seem to even have a core knowledge of horror film classics. No wonder it’s as entertaining as a creepypasta YouTube clips video.
>The filmmaker in interviews sounds like a total moronic homosexual too. He doesn’t seem to even have a core knowledge of horror film classics.
Post an example, I wanna see
Was all this shilling for this piece of shit on here last year from the actual studios? Or was someone legit trolling us? I wanna punch out the guy who recommended this on Cinemaphile frick you
>Was all this shilling for this piece of shit on here last year from the actual studios?
Whatcha think?
This entire thread got filtered lmfao Skinamarink was good, OP, but you had to have seen it in a theater.
If you have to see it in theater for it to be good then it's not good.
t. zoomed
Saying that while defending the most zoomer movie imaginable is laughable.
I'm just a lurker but I disagree. Many films are substantially better with a proper sound system and larger screen
Not really. Those things are just tertiary to a movie's quality.
>I'm just a lurker
What type of special super-homosexual do you have to be to say this. What is this fricking Tekken Zaibatsu?
yeah it was a piece of shit
My theater cucks showed me the trailer and then didn't actually showed the movie because they probably knew I'd be the only one paying to watch. Just like only me and another dude watched Spain's Venus. Frickers, I'd have even bought concessions without a discount!
It’s self-indulgent shit. It’s the experimental noise music of movies where only the person involved making it got the most entertainment from the product because he was making it
How is that not an incredibly based and Chad move to make only art or music that you can enjoy? Are you some kind of communist homosexual that thinks art is for everyone? (Not that I think movies are art, but they're a shorthand for art)
I genuinely watch true experimental avant-garde films, and this movie was a massive piece of shit.
would you be willing to recommend the best film of the experimental avant-garde genre? i'm slightly expecting it to be the film gabe showed in the office but if you come through with something cool that would be nice too
didn't realize it was gonna be a Cinemaphile crossover
Good premise but very poor execution. Short 10-minute film stretched to 2 hours.
Watched the whole thing.
Has some neat moments but just feels like a short film artificially dragged out to be feature-length.
Without context, it was predictable that Cinemaphile wouldn't like it. I'll say that much.
It's fricking shit. It's an experiment in style and aesthetic that is completely lacking all the things required to be an actual feature film.
It’s terrible and even if it wasn’t objectively shit it’s the same thing as Heck but stretched out to 2 hours
unspeakably, mind-numbingly boring dogshit wank; it DARES you to watch it without falling asleep. i'd say its all style & no substance, but its idea of "style" consists of dark af, barely visible, 10 minute long shots of walls & doors & carpets applied with a shitty fake VHS tape filter. absolutely abyssmal, go watch Terrifier or something
Has there ever been a film that stretched an "aesthetic" over the length of the film and succeeded?
it's something music does all the time, but film struggles to do the same thing.
its pathos vs logos: music is a predominantly emotional medium, not a logical one like film or novels, so you dont need to actively think about & remain engaged with it, although you can if you understand how it works & know how to analyze it objectively. one cant just passively "feel" movies or stories the way one can with music
>one cant just passively "feel" movies
It's the general prevailing tradition for film's to prioritize stories, but there have also been experimental film makers and artists creating films and video-art that goes solely for the "feel"
Even with writing, there's poetry where the focus is on the musical-like rhythm and beautiful phrases rather than story.
You can put music on in the background and do other shit
Good point. Film might not be passive enough vs music to simply be aesthetic
braindead take
even if you find that to be the case, (which is wrong, by the way) there are many albums with a similar idea of stretching an aesthetic over a full album that were successful in their endeavor and made meaningful music out of it.
>similar idea of stretching an aesthetic over a full album that were successful in their endeavor and made meaningful music out of it.
>pic not related
B A S E D V A P O R アノン
I’m more of an Eccojams guy myself.
don't worry, i'm familiar.
based eccojams poster
this is his best album
they're all pretty close but i think i agree
Didn't people say that artist was boring wank too? Usually the more active attention and focus the audience needs to sacrifice to understand a piece of art, the more they're just going to roll their eyes and say its pretentious. That's how a lot of consumers are these days.
Yeah that album is just cut and paste zoomer trash
>Yeah that album is just cut and paste zoomer trash
elaborate.
its big band vaporwave, dude cuts out loops of 1930s jazz pop songs and slows and reverbs them. it can be pretty bg music but the hype surrounding his 7 hour long alzheimers album is zoomer soi bullshit
What this anon said - it's not procedurally difficult to make music like that and tacking on "profound" titles to the songs doesn't make the songs themselves profound
Maybe Max Mad Fury Road. But even that had a bare-bones story going on. But people love it because of it's visual aesthetic. Narratively it's a piece of shit. Songs are much shorter, like 3-10 mins long. A feature film is going to be at least 75 mins long. You can't stretch an aesthetic that far unless there is something else going on as well. Even the most "random" or "abstract" films often have more going on that meets the eye.
>Narratively it's a piece of shit.
The narrative is perfectly fine and doesn't need to be anything more than an excuse to watch apocalypse cars blow each other up, because that's the best part of the movie and what it wants to focus on
You're a dumbass
You are one of the brainlets I speak of who loves these types of movies. Get a clue, dumbski.
>and succeeded?
YES
do the new spidermans or Wes Anderson count?
No, because they actually have plot and dialog and scenes and some sort of coherent story.
The major problem with The Caretaker’s music is it has no merits. If you were to go in with zero context about why this should be important then you wouldn’t care because it’s just edited loops and noise
sorry you have dogshit taste, anon.
It’s not good art if you need context, sorry. A piece should speak for itself
>Has there ever been a film that stretched an "aesthetic" over the length of the film
Don't a lot of movies do that? The aesthetics are a huge part of film, with it being a visual medium.
I think that anon means without any narrative, but the music album he cited also has a narrative so ?
Either way, there are definitely movies that go with simplistic plots in order to put more emphasis on their "aesthetic".
Sleep Has Her House (2017)
Behemoth (2015)
Leviathan (2012)
At Sea (2007)
The Hart of London (1970)
Begotten (1990)
Night Awake (2016)
And YES! SKINAMARINK TOO!!!! 😀
>Not a shill post btw
>anyone who likes thing I don't is a shill
OK moron
Yeah pic related.
I watched it knowing nothing about it, realized the whole movie was going to be gimmicky bullshit 15 minutes in, and turned it off. Now I see hour long video essays about how this and shit like the Mandela Catalog are "real horror that the world isn't ready for"
While I agree with the majority of this thread, that Skinamstink is indeed boring, I have seen nobody mention anything about the subject matter nor the sound design. These are the only two worthwhile aspects of the film , OP. If disembodied voices in the dark and long silences get under your skin then you might enjoy it, but I'll warn you that what mildy coherent plot there is will require a good and quiet setup to discern and actually follow.
I respect what the director was going for but its too barebones to be interesting beyond the gimmick.
Skinamarinky dinky dink
Skinamarinky do
I
Love
You
I loved it, but it's nothing like a conventional horror movie.
It's more like a horror version of an experimental art film.
Like if James Benning made a remake of Poltergeist.
I didn't like the way they filmed it but it was unique. I was spooked but pretty much any supernatural horror movie will do that to me.
watch this and tell me you don't get chills
you woke up my dog. are you happy with yourself?
The style was alright but it needed more content.
It just ended up repeating itself over and over.
Also the "gimmick" that the kids are offscreen got old fast and made it appear like muppets are walking around and so on...
It would've worked as a short film, making it feature length just makes everything get tedious really fast.
Hated it my first watch but then actually enjoyed it my second watch when I was trying to trick friends into watching it. What drops the movie like 3 points out of 10 is him deciding there needed to be loud ass jumpscares. It almost ruins the movie because now you're not trying to get immersed in the camera work but instead constantly fricking with the volume to try and dodge having someone scream in your ear. It's so loud it clips the mic the movie used. Someone should just edit those out honestly. Stupid ass decision.
What I liked.
>the camera angles making the empty rooms of the house feel bigger and more foreboding than they actually are
>the two kid leads feel like kids.
I know that sounds obvious but a Hollywood movie would have these kids inventing shit to fight the skinamarink or whatever and yelling IM NOT AFRAID OF YOU. Their mind isn't developed yet so their subdued reactions to some weirder shit is convincing.
>the whole story is uniquely mean spirited without just being a torture porn.
The whole movie is the skinamarink torturing these two kids that do not deserve it in the slightest and it creates this uniquely hopeless experience which made the movie more interesting to me.
>the plot is literal
It's not some stupid metaphor or some twist of OH THE KID WAS IN A COMA THE WHOLE TIME. It's all literal and it makes it more brutal that way.
I totally get how this is a movie critics enjoyed but marvel fans can't. You definitely need to have patience for it, which audiences like Cinemaphile would never have because their brain is on twitter and tiktok 24/7. This thread of people going hysterical about how "bad" it is without actually saying why is a perfect example.
More strawman arguments would be needed.
What do marvel fans also dislike? Can you write an essay on it please?
The jumpscares are kino. You're just mad cause they made you piss ur diaper lil boy.
>Loss of immersion because of jumpscares
very very true. Honestly I'd probably turn this movie on in the background while I go to sleep at night if it weren't for the volume spikes, it's a weirdly cozy film.
That fricking house tho
It didn't affect me too much but as an experiment in "architectural horror" I'd tentatively call it a success. The feelings of isolation and abandonment were clearly very close to the director and I think he manifests those ideas pretty well at times. I'll gladly take something messy but unique over some awfully masturbatory A24 product.
I think it's one of those films (?) that either you care about it or you don't, there's no inbetween and there's no sense in going on screeching tirades about how ""bad"" it is or whatever. Getting mad about it would be like getting mad at a shape, like a square, just because it's not a different triangle.
Skinamarink is a weird experiment in ambiance an amorphous horror with a narrow enough vision to fit into a small budget without feeling low-budget. I like experimental films sometimes so for me it was kino.