It's really been a pretty pathetic showing. They could have recovered after Green Lantern but for whatever reason decided to let Snyder of all people helm their franchise.
Gunn’s TSS flopped worse than any of his movies. Nobody cares for Superman Legacy (straight to dvd ass title)
because the movie that gunn had that underperformed was a c-list movie filled with meme characters released on a digital streaming service not two of DC's most iconic characters and among two of the most iconic characters in fiction that was planned as a flagship movie of the universe
Because Gunn has made hit movies with D Listers. He has the highest grossing capeshit this year by far. Yeah you could say he haad the MCU boost which is true to a certain extent but then you also have to acknowledge that Snyder got to play with fricking Batman, a franchise which had just had 2 billion dollar films.
Lying WB homosexual. Aquaman made $1.15b after WW was a hit as well. Whedon and the "Hamadaverse" is what fricked them. Quit trying to rewrite history so you were right.
Cope. Snyder movies grossed more than all the averages of Marvel movies combined. WB will rehire Snyder to restore the Snyderverse once Gunn’s DCU flops.
Snydergays have no concept of time. Even if Gunn's DCU does flop and they bring back Snyder how many years will that take? How old will most of the cast be? I think Amy Adams is almost 50
11 months ago
Anonymous
They'll just feed Snyder's slop into some AI slop generator and create all the Snyderverse movies they need.
In fact Snyder might just start doing that on the side and generating more of this crap to begin with
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yep, ZSJL was the now or never moment and WB picked never. WB would rather tank the brand than admit they fricked up, and so they did.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>rather tank the brand
the brand was already tanked anon
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well you can thank Hamada for that one. Somehow he thought fricking Wonder Woman and Aquaman could carry without Batman and Superman.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Batman vs Superman should've been their golden bullet. Somehow Snyder fumbled the bag on that I blame him but like the other Anon said they should've just rebooted after that shit failed everything after that was just pure desperation
11 months ago
Anonymous
dc doesnt have a single interesting superhero >inb4 muh caped crusader
that shit is played
11 months ago
Anonymous
Historically speaking Batman is the only character they should focus on in live action
Of all the movies to be triggered over someone liking, why this one?
The fact that this one dumb movie starring one dumb homosexual managed to enrage so many people for seemingly no reason is hilarious to me
>Hard to beat Heaven’s Gate destroying an entire movement in Hollywood
Very true. It can be pretty substantially blamed for the current corporate executive-run film industry we all know and hate.
>Hard to beat Heaven’s Gate destroying an entire movement in Hollywood
Very true. It can be pretty substantially blamed for the current corporate executive-run film industry we all know and hate.
explain plox? What's a suicide cult from the 90s have to do with WB and the movie industry as a whole?
He means the 1980 western. It bombed, not only ending western genre for a long time but also the "New Hollywood" style of movie making, where directors were given almost total control over their projects without studio interference.
It's the movie that famously bankrupted Chaplin's studio United Artists and changed how movies were made for good. Think of it like the Atari E.T. crash, more localized financially but just as impactful on the culture
>but it’ll depend if it can be considered the biggest
Ever since the DCEU started WB was bought twice, both times for their massive debts. Discovery will probably sell it again for the same reason AT&T did. The only reason Warner is still a thing is for brand recognition, they stopped making profits a long time ago.
It's really been a pretty pathetic showing. They could have recovered after Green Lantern but for whatever reason decided to let Snyder of all people helm their franchise.
I'm not a fan of comics to begin with but I always felt like DC charcters (JLA and all) never felt like a cohesive thing.
In Marvel comics (and movies) they took the real world and just inserted superheros into it so it resonates nicely to begin with. Everyone also has this sliding scale of how strong they are so it's not strange to see odd team-ups and have them essentially be on equal terms. It's almost like the entire concept of everyone teaming up is built-in. It feels natural somehow.
Meanwhile in the DCU Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern always felt to me like they simply belong in different settings. It doesn't even make sense that Gotham exists in the same world where Superman lives. And Superman and Flash have such broken powers that it just feels stupid to have them team up with anyone.
There's all sort of weird dissonance like that which makes the entire concept of all of them coexisting and doing stuff together weird. Maybe that's why the DCU never took off. Too many different vibes for these characters. This is also the reason Batman movies always work. They simply exist in a different kind of environment from the rest of it.
And I know JLA worked as an animated show that everyone liked, but that's a far more forgiving medium.
This is the prime example of how Marvel did it right.
Captain America was shown to have a scaling strength so he could keep up with whoever.
And Thor was shown to be a god, but also just a lughead that belongs to a race of brodudes so essentially a strong alien dude.
It allows the power of each one to be scaled appropriately.
Yes, it's still a wide gap, but less wide than Batman, who gets roughed up by bums every now and then, pretending he's on par with Superman, who can destroy a planet with a punch.
You can do the same thing with Batman and Superman, they just scale up Batman's intelligence and make Superman a "strong alien dude". >Yes, it's still a wide gap, but less wide than Batman, who gets roughed up by bums every now and then, pretending he's on par with Superman, who can destroy a planet with a punch.
Captain America was fighting toe to toe with completely normal people while Thor was able to summon lightning and casually toss around cars. How is that any different?
>Superman teaming up with Batman makes just as much sense as Captain America teaming up with Thor.
No, it doesn't. Captain America had the super soldier serum, he's not just some smart strong prep-time gay. There's good concrete physical reasons why he's amazing. Batman is basically just a rich guy who plays ninja at night. It's nowhere near the same.
You can do the same thing with Batman and Superman, they just scale up Batman's intelligence and make Superman a "strong alien dude". >Yes, it's still a wide gap, but less wide than Batman, who gets roughed up by bums every now and then, pretending he's on par with Superman, who can destroy a planet with a punch.
Captain America was fighting toe to toe with completely normal people while Thor was able to summon lightning and casually toss around cars. How is that any different?
> they just scale up Batman's intelligence
This is the problem, they never explain this. He's just super wise and intelligent for no earthly reason. With Captain America his abilities were enhanced. Batman literally has no powers, he's just an elite human. So how the frick can this dude roll with people who can think and move faster than the speed of light? Or people who can literally fly and bullets just bounce off of them and they can lift a train without breaking a sweat. It just doesn't add up. > Captain America was fighting toe to toe with completely normal people while Thor was able to summon lightning and casually toss around cars. How is that any different?
There is a massive difference between Captain America, who is genetically enhanced to a point where he can hold a helicopter and take blows from Thanos (one of the strongest people in the universe) and Batman whose arms would rip to pieces if he held a helicopter and would disintegrate if Thanos punched him. This comparison is just ridiculous. The better comparison would be Tony Stark to Batman actually. And we see the difference much more clearly. The Stark TECHNOLOGY allows him to go toe to toe with his fellow avengers. He can make a suit to increase his speed, his strength, his durability, anything. It's an EXPLANATION. Batman is just running around in tights in almost all comic books and films (the metal suit aside, which sucked and was no iron man suit, superman ripped it off like tissue paper). Batman makes no sense in the justice league.
Batman is basically a genius and has peak level human conditioning. you add the Wayne fortune and Wayne enterprises R&D.
he can't go meta humans toe to toe but Batman usually exploits their weakness or his money affords him the technology to do so.
Batman dons the black high tech suit after Knightfall in Troika. with Bats he's been retconned a few times so, it depends.
you really need clever writers to write for Batman when he's with the Justice League. Batman doesn't scale very well for over the top capeshit. this scene with him against Darkseid. Bats stands zero chance one on one, but get what he wants because he out smarts him.
personally I think Batman is better when he's fighting crime and being a detective in Gotham.
Watch the Timmverse DCAU if you want to see how a nicely meshed DC cinematic universe looks. I might even say it's the best capeshit we've ever got. Dare I say, actual Cape Kino. Up there with Fleischer Superman.
Batman The Animated Series
Superman The Animated Series
Static Shock
Justice League
Batman Beyond
Justice League Unlimited
Regardless of the quality of the films themselves, I think DC tried to move into the massive-team-up, universe-destroying, multiversal shit way too fast. We should've gotten a couple years of just solo movies (of good characters) so we had time with them before smashing them all together.
At over 10 years old it's certainly the most long lived disaster. At least the proposed universal monsterverse had the guts to call it quits after 2 flops.
At this point there is no saving it since people get confused about what movie or version of the characters is "canon" to the DCU.
Without even checking, I'm not sure if this Ezra Flash is supposed to simply be a continuation of the one from the previous movies or if it's some reboot and why Keaton's Batman is in it and are we supposed to pretend the rest of the characters are known to us from before or what?
It's just sending weird mixed signals about what it is and what it wants to be.
This is the kind of clusterfrick that killed the western comics industry. Too many weird tie-ins and wonky continuity and different takes on characters in rapid succession.
>Superman flopped so hard he was outgrossed by fricking Aquaman >no new Green Lantern >Snyder autism >Jared Leto autism >Justice League blowing its load too early >BvS, conceptually >Suicide Squad followed by a half-reboot called The Suicide Squad >short lived soft-reboot by Dwayne Johnson >Ezra Miller's endless controversies >Black Adam has a Cavill Supes end credits scene three weeks before another fricking universe reboot >WW1984, conceptually >Batterson film has no connection to DCEU >Joker has no connection to DCEU >pre-reboot films still in the pipeline at the same time as the Gunnsverse >almost every single movie has CGI ranging from muddy to atrocious >three box office flops in a row after a decade of flops and near-flops
Am I missing anything?
it's equally embarrassing and impressive that Batman vs Superman, the first time these characters have ever been together on the big screen, at one of the heights of the superhero movie crazes, made less than a billion dollars.
I love how morons like you keep forgetting that this was a new series, the audience knew it, and they were obviously not going to make that billion right off the bat, so a movie that made 800 million was somehow a fricking failure. Nolan didn't make his billion until the second Batman movie and it took three or four movies for the MCU to hit a billion.
For one it wasn't a new series, it was a sequel to Man of Steel. >three or four movies for the MCU to hit a billion.
None of the MCU characters aside from Spider-Man were as iconic as fricking Batman, much less Batman vs Superman. So yes it's a failure that he couldn't crack a billion with a movie that should've printed money. Your only cope is to try to compare it to movies that came out 5+ years before it rather than where the industry was at the time. BvS was not competing with Captain America or Iron Man 1, it was competing with Civil War.
How are they "losing money" from tickets? That's not how it works. The theater's the one losing money if they keep a dead movie in theaters. Might be splitting hairs. Either way, it sucks because the movie's actually great.
Considering Zaslav thought Flash was amazing and people still had issues with it, if he even thought Batgirl was bad, it was probably a 1/10 film.
Birds of Prey, which was nothing more than a Margot Robbie vanity project to the extent that they went out of their way to hire relatively unattractive actresses so Robbie wasn't outshone.
The plot was laughably bad. It was basically kickass but for girls. Barbara goes to a Halloween party dressed as Batman, beats up a bunch of guys while bystanders record, becomes “batgirl”
Birds of Prey was retitled halfway through its theatrical run.
Plus Harley's redesign in that movie was unanimously disliked
Amber Heard controversies led to WB reducing her screentime in the next aquaman movie
The first Suicide Squad's director making a big fuss about his director's cut
Cyborg's actor got blacklisted
>Superman >guy who constantly looks constipated and doesn't want to be Superman >they managed to cycle to his death of superman arc within three showings of him barely being Superman
>Batman >can't even keep track who is supposed to be Batman now and in what movie
>Wonder Woman >Miss Israel who can't act and every time she shows up there's some middle-eastern lalala chanting going on
>Ezra >played by a gay gay who keeps making gay gay expressions in every shot
>Aquaman >who the frick even cares
>Green Lantern >Green Lantern?
>Blue Beetle >Batman is fascist, ICE raids, etc...
>Cinemaphile hates Ezra so much like every other media-worshipping cuck that they support the rape and molestation of underage boys
Funny how hating Ezra makes you a horrible person, since doing so requires enabling actual abusive buttholes and criminals
What would have saved him? Converting to Christianity?
11 months ago
Anonymous
By saving him from his sister and Hollywood fricking his bussy
11 months ago
Anonymous
What other profession would a moron like him even excel at other than being exploited? He was basically born to be abused. He is the last child of the family, neither of his sisters were forced into show business because they’re intelligent educators or scientists, only Ezra the high school dropout was made into a dancing monkey because it’s all he was good for. He would have been better off being born a girl, then at least he’d be slightly less fricked up.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I’d support him and root for him to go back to get a GED and do his best and if he couldn’t do it I’d still love him and he could be my secretary
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's surprisingly wholesome, I like that. He'd be good at that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
such a beautiful man
11 months ago
Anonymous
Did you watch the movie? He's naked like 75% of the time in it
11 months ago
Anonymous
He's funny looking in some still-shots, but in motion he's definitely got this alluring quality to him. Ironically enough he had the most chemistry with himself out of any other character.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>mfw I realized this wasn't a gif, but a 4 minute scene in the film
11 months ago
Anonymous
>What would have saved him?
An exorcism perhaps. He is a troony israelite, he cant be a christian
That Kimmel interview was pretty astonishing, hearing the audience whoop and clap and laugh as he painstakingly recalled how his sisters use to turn him out and parade him around in dresses and mindbroke him.
Yes. They have Superman, Batman, and the Justice League. And they still fricked it up. Hiring/trusting Snyder and those writers was absolutely stupid. BvS pretty much kneecapped this universe.
Capeshit is dead. Even Marvel slop isn’t generating hype anymore. We could be on the verge of a new kino era or CBMs could be replaced with something even worse.
>Batman vs Superman, the first time these two iconic characters have been on screen together >makes less than a billy >makes less than fricking Captain Marvel and Guardians of the Galaxy
nah he got filtered
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nah
11 months ago
Anonymous
what do you mean nah? the DCEU is dead in the water and the only cultural impact snyder's "kino" has was people laughing at the Martha scene
11 months ago
Anonymous
You got BTFO gay just stop poasting go get some air
Who decided to spend 300 million dollars on a b stringer solo film in a dead franchise? How do senior management at all these huge companies get away with being so incompetent? I'd get fired if I lost 300 bucks.
it's projected to lose Warner 200 million but I don't think it'll be the biggest flop this year. I think that crown will go to Disney's Indy 5 movie, it's looking to lose 250 million.
That Indiana Jones movie is such a big misfire, should've made that as soon as they got Lucasfilms instead of waiting so fricking long, it should've come out in 2016 and it would've been a guaranteed success, now after the pandemic and people getting sick of hollywood it had no chance
that would have been the time to strike, I think people kind of know the drill at this point.
legacy male hero is now an old broken man to be replaced by female or diverse insert.
nobody wants to see that. it took audiences time to catch on to it but now it's basically a trope and one that isn't very well liked.
KK has ripped to shreds every male legacy character in the Lucasfilm IP catalogue.
It shouldn't have been made at all along with Crystal Skull because Indy is an iconic character and nobody wants to see him as an old fart getting sassed by people who they want to establish as the next Indy.
It's demeaning, demoralizing and humiliating.
The fact they they pretend that people "want" these movies is even more sickening.
I still can't comprehend how they fricked up a Batman & Superman team up movie. They were teasing that shit since 2006 with I Am Legend. It's such an easy layup but they fricked it up for an entire generation. Just baffling.
Who wants to see capeshit after Avengers flopped off the face of the earth. All the build up for fricking nothing. Universe movies are garbage. No one even remembers the last Avengers movie.
The Star Wars movies aside from the Solo one at least made money. They were fricking awful and probably could've made more but they all cracked a billy.
They made money but at the cost of killing the brand and still aren't out of the red on their purchase. I was counting the imminent implosion of Indiana Jones as well, too.
I'd be pretty surprised if they aren't out of the red on it given toy sales and merchandising and everything else. They bought it for fairly cheap given how much it was worth because Lucas just wanted to get rid of it.
>Indiana Jones
tbh I don't even blame them for Indiana Jones. That shit was already dead. Who the frick wants to watch an Indiana Jones with 80 something year old Harrison Ford now? I don't even get why it was made.
>I'd be pretty surprised if they aren't out of the red on it given toy sales and merchandising and everything else.
homie, do you realize the SW toys and merch have been rotting on shelves for years now? TLJ killed the sales.
>I'd say the murder of Lucasfilm at the hands of Disney is probably a bigger disaster. >create trillions of raging and crying manbabies in the process
totally worth it
They should've dropped DC right after Batman vs Superman, they should've known that people were not really interested in another cinematic universe, they should've known that Snyder was not the right choice from the start, they should've known that people only cared about the Marvel Cinematic universe but they got tricked into thinking people cared because back when they were making these movies capeshit was really popular (thanks to Marvel) so they kept going
Now it basically killed their studio, it's their fault
They also made the mistake of trying to dive right into a "cinematic universe" rather than letting it form naturally. Marvel went through a lot of films before coalescing into a connected universe. Then again who knows if it could be replicated.
There was nothing wrong with BvS though, WB was gaslit by critics and the mcu aka Disney. Justice League was such a massive embarrassment and the 2hr mandate (for a fricking ensemble movie) imposed by the president at the time was pure sabotage.
it wasn't just critics who didn't like it. even normies could only laugh at the martha scene. I don't know a single person who actually had anything positive to say about it outside of this moronic board, and the fact that a Batman vs Superman movie didn't make more than a billion and was outgrossed by fricking Guardians of the Galaxy despite being a concept that's been hyped up for 10+ years is telling enough.
There was nothing wrong with BvS though, WB was gaslit by critics and the mcu aka Disney. Justice League was such a massive embarrassment and the 2hr mandate (for a fricking ensemble movie) imposed by the president at the time was pure sabotage.
The theatrical version was shit. The director's cut was better, but by that point it wasn't going to get any better.
>There was nothing wrong with BvS though
Don't try to rewrite history, pajeeto, everyone made fun of that shit when it came out and DC was considered off brand Marvel thanks to those movies
>WB was gaslit by critics
More like they were "gaslit" by the awful word of mouth. BvS didn't even double it's opening. Do you have any idea how terrible that is? BvS huge opening had frick all to do with Snyder, it sold on the premise alone then fell off because people hated it.
BvD was fricking trash. Superman was complete trash. Justice League was complete trash (I've only seen the Snydercut). The entire DCEU was lazily tossed together trash and Snyder was a big reason for that. The guy lost it a long time ago. When was his last really good film? 300? Watchmen maybe?
Snyder wanted to make something grimdark and edgy with the same tone as Watchmen (which he also completely misunderstood) and the audience was into quippy fun Marvel network of movies that work all together in unison.
I still can't believe how fricked up Superman was.
In his first showing he simply just acts depressed, brooding and reluctant to do anything. He remains like this to the end of the movie where he is forced to snap his enemy's neck because he has no other options.
In the next movie he is already in the "Death of Superman" phase, while Batman is in his TDKR phase, which are like endgame points for their respective characters.
For Superman this should come after a career of being a world icon, which in this setting he never was since there was no time or movies to show it.
Then he gets revived and ....does next to nothing again.
He never really got to be anything resembling what he's supposed to be like. He might as well be a completely different character.
it seems Nolan's Batman took some inspiration from Knightfall. DKR was setting up Joseph Gordon-Levitt to presumably to be Azrael, which in that series mid life crisis and back broken Batman chooses him to take up the mantle of Batman.
>Nobody wants deep character studies, they want flash and quips.
And that's why Joker made a billion dollars. Snyder isn't anywhere near as clever as you or he thinks he is
11 months ago
Anonymous
Joker wasn't capeshit.
They marketed it as a movie about mental illness and society.
he could've gone grimdark and edgy if he made batman movies but for whatever reason he tried to do it with superman
He could've gone all grimdark and edgy if he was in the least bit capable of writing a script, which he isn't
Great director, gets great performances out of his actors, elite-level eye for composition and action, but just zero ability in front of a keyboard and it's always been that way
And then the bright and colorful action packed quipfest that was Aquaman made a billion. Funny how Snyderfans want to take credit for it when it plays nothing like a Snyder film.
I liked the contrast b/t quippy stupid Marvel bullshit and the DCEU's grimdark edgy & broodsphere but WB execs decided the world couldn't have both bc they only wanted to appease ONE audience and they fricking failed at it. Though I saw The Flash in the late afternoon b4 the night showing, I was literally the only one in the theater. Had some genuine laughs, but that's not what makes me like a superhero film. It ruined flashpoint w/all the unnecessary comedy.
There’s no reason anyone here should be truly angry with Snyder. The mad lad did more damage to Hollywood than whatever “occupy wall street” moronation could ever hope to achieve. He single handedly caused the collapse of capeshit and cinematic universes. Now Hollywood will become better for it because now they have to try and make good movies, or die trying, either way it’s a win win. And now Snyder gets to do whatever he wants with an unlimited budget from Netlix. Bravo.
>he single handedly caused the collapse of capeshit and cinematic universes
no he didn't. the MCU continued to print money for years after his moronic shlock and now it's only failing because marvel blew their load and doesn't know what to do now
Trannies hate Ezra most of all because trannies are all easily brainwashed leftists.
The only people who don't hate Ezra are media literate centrists able to evaluate information critically and impartially.
how do you own the rights to some of the most recognizable superheroes on the planet like batman, superman and wonder woman and drop the ball so hard
should be a slam dunk
It's remarkably easy. Sony was fricking up Spider-Man so hard they were killing the brand in the US. Amazing Spider-Man 2 only made 200mil domestic, the same as Superman Returns. They were just lucky third workers love Spider-Man but it was slowly dying there as well.
Then there were all the frick ups Fox had with the X-Men. All the talk about Flash being "the biggest bomb ever" just reminds me people have short memories. Remember Dark Phoenix? 250mil box office on a budget of 200mil at least.
The least said about the Fantastic Four the better.
You can have the most popular characters on the planet but they will crash if you keep making trash.
the dude has a contract that doesn't expire until at least 2024, possibly 2025. In order to "fire" him WBD would have to spend even more money than they already did on the movie. He's also already in the process of restoring his reputation that the media damaged. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't sue someone.
>comparing a stupid hairdo or outfit with life-ruining lies about someone being a pedo
wow you sure showed him
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just saying you can't hold up a giant neon sign saying "give me attention" and then accuse other people of the same thing without coming off like a detached moron which is an image he has perfected over the years.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>be you >get triggered at gaytard actor wearing funny gaytard outfits, something that doesn't even effect you since no one forced you to look at the outfits >this means it's an excuse for people to defame him with false allegations as sponsored by Rolling Stone
you're a slippery slope moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
>omg why do you even care you must be triggered
yeah yeah dont forget I'm totally obsessed and probably just want to frick him
i will not pay for superman legacy, because gunn is a homosex homosexual and it will look like a youtube show and because of AA casting and because "legacy" is a stupid fricking name, so pretentious
>The Justice League isn't good with mental health >If I, Batman, truly wanted to stop crime I would give just give away all my money or something
I don't like holes being poked in the mythos. Respect it or get the frick out.
They didn't decide this, the theater owners said frick off.
If they say that "they decided to remove it" they will save face compared to "theater owners removed it"
snyderverse = the biggest failure in history of cinema
Gunn’s TSS flopped worse than any of his movies. Nobody cares for Superman Legacy (straight to dvd ass title)
Of course it did, it came out during the middle of the pandemic and was a reboot of a shit movie in a failing universe without any real draw.
Gunn gets all the excuses, while Zack gets blamed for 5 years of Hamadaverse bombs after he was fired
because the movie that gunn had that underperformed was a c-list movie filled with meme characters released on a digital streaming service not two of DC's most iconic characters and among two of the most iconic characters in fiction that was planned as a flagship movie of the universe
It was a sequel to one of the most profitable DCEU movies.
Because Gunn has made hit movies with D Listers. He has the highest grossing capeshit this year by far. Yeah you could say he haad the MCU boost which is true to a certain extent but then you also have to acknowledge that Snyder got to play with fricking Batman, a franchise which had just had 2 billion dollar films.
Don't forget Gunn couldn't even get better than B listers for Guardians because every agent in Hollywood "knew" it would flop
It was also free on HBO Max same day as release...
So was Dune and Godzilla vs Kong
>two more bombs
Yeah, and?
Dune released about a month earlier in foreign markets because they realised how fricking stupid that Max release was by then
Lying WB homosexual. Aquaman made $1.15b after WW was a hit as well. Whedon and the "Hamadaverse" is what fricked them. Quit trying to rewrite history so you were right.
That initial wave was coasting off the overall comic book movie craze that Marvel initiated.
People were still mistakenly thinking that DCU can also deliver. And then it never did.
>Aquaman made $1.15b after WW was a hit as well
and snyder had to do with none of that.
Both movies were solidly tied into Justice League, so you're kind of a fricking idiot.
>into Justice League
Justice League. Whedon Justice League
Not Snyder Cut.
Cope. Snyder movies grossed more than all the averages of Marvel movies combined. WB will rehire Snyder to restore the Snyderverse once Gunn’s DCU flops.
>WB will rehire Snyder to restore the Snyderverse once Gunn’s DCU flops.
right after fatman releases dreams of spring
Snydergays have no concept of time. Even if Gunn's DCU does flop and they bring back Snyder how many years will that take? How old will most of the cast be? I think Amy Adams is almost 50
They'll just feed Snyder's slop into some AI slop generator and create all the Snyderverse movies they need.
In fact Snyder might just start doing that on the side and generating more of this crap to begin with
Yep, ZSJL was the now or never moment and WB picked never. WB would rather tank the brand than admit they fricked up, and so they did.
>rather tank the brand
the brand was already tanked anon
Well you can thank Hamada for that one. Somehow he thought fricking Wonder Woman and Aquaman could carry without Batman and Superman.
Batman vs Superman should've been their golden bullet. Somehow Snyder fumbled the bag on that I blame him but like the other Anon said they should've just rebooted after that shit failed everything after that was just pure desperation
dc doesnt have a single interesting superhero
>inb4 muh caped crusader
that shit is played
Historically speaking Batman is the only character they should focus on in live action
>. WB will rehire Snyder to restore the Snyderverse once Gunn’s DCU flops.
Lmao.
Snydertards can't meme.
nobody wants that
>muh cherrypicking the evidence
I liked it.
Ok.
Frick you.
Of all the movies to be triggered over someone liking, why this one?
The fact that this one dumb movie starring one dumb homosexual managed to enrage so many people for seemingly no reason is hilarious to me
It’s a massive loss for WB, but it’ll depend if it can be considered the biggest if it also tanks the profits of future films.
Hard to beat Heaven’s Gate destroying an entire movement in Hollywood
>Hard to beat Heaven’s Gate destroying an entire movement in Hollywood
Very true. It can be pretty substantially blamed for the current corporate executive-run film industry we all know and hate.
explain plox? What's a suicide cult from the 90s have to do with WB and the movie industry as a whole?
He means the 1980 western. It bombed, not only ending western genre for a long time but also the "New Hollywood" style of movie making, where directors were given almost total control over their projects without studio interference.
It's the movie that famously bankrupted Chaplin's studio United Artists and changed how movies were made for good. Think of it like the Atari E.T. crash, more localized financially but just as impactful on the culture
Do ascended along with his followers, they're riding a comet and shit
>Heaven’s Gate
While cimino is a moron, that movie looks gorgeous and mostly got bad reviews for its views on politics and such
>but it’ll depend if it can be considered the biggest
Ever since the DCEU started WB was bought twice, both times for their massive debts. Discovery will probably sell it again for the same reason AT&T did. The only reason Warner is still a thing is for brand recognition, they stopped making profits a long time ago.
It's up there. Hopefully this signifies the end of the capeshit era.
It's really been a pretty pathetic showing. They could have recovered after Green Lantern but for whatever reason decided to let Snyder of all people helm their franchise.
Go check out the unhinged rainbow flag trannies on the DCEU Discord server. This is their remaining fanbase.
I'm not a fan of comics to begin with but I always felt like DC charcters (JLA and all) never felt like a cohesive thing.
In Marvel comics (and movies) they took the real world and just inserted superheros into it so it resonates nicely to begin with. Everyone also has this sliding scale of how strong they are so it's not strange to see odd team-ups and have them essentially be on equal terms. It's almost like the entire concept of everyone teaming up is built-in. It feels natural somehow.
Meanwhile in the DCU Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern always felt to me like they simply belong in different settings. It doesn't even make sense that Gotham exists in the same world where Superman lives. And Superman and Flash have such broken powers that it just feels stupid to have them team up with anyone.
There's all sort of weird dissonance like that which makes the entire concept of all of them coexisting and doing stuff together weird. Maybe that's why the DCU never took off. Too many different vibes for these characters. This is also the reason Batman movies always work. They simply exist in a different kind of environment from the rest of it.
And I know JLA worked as an animated show that everyone liked, but that's a far more forgiving medium.
Superman teaming up with Batman makes just as much sense as Captain America teaming up with Thor.
This is the prime example of how Marvel did it right.
Captain America was shown to have a scaling strength so he could keep up with whoever.
And Thor was shown to be a god, but also just a lughead that belongs to a race of brodudes so essentially a strong alien dude.
It allows the power of each one to be scaled appropriately.
Yes, it's still a wide gap, but less wide than Batman, who gets roughed up by bums every now and then, pretending he's on par with Superman, who can destroy a planet with a punch.
You can do the same thing with Batman and Superman, they just scale up Batman's intelligence and make Superman a "strong alien dude".
>Yes, it's still a wide gap, but less wide than Batman, who gets roughed up by bums every now and then, pretending he's on par with Superman, who can destroy a planet with a punch.
Captain America was fighting toe to toe with completely normal people while Thor was able to summon lightning and casually toss around cars. How is that any different?
>Superman teaming up with Batman makes just as much sense as Captain America teaming up with Thor.
No, it doesn't. Captain America had the super soldier serum, he's not just some smart strong prep-time gay. There's good concrete physical reasons why he's amazing. Batman is basically just a rich guy who plays ninja at night. It's nowhere near the same.
> they just scale up Batman's intelligence
This is the problem, they never explain this. He's just super wise and intelligent for no earthly reason. With Captain America his abilities were enhanced. Batman literally has no powers, he's just an elite human. So how the frick can this dude roll with people who can think and move faster than the speed of light? Or people who can literally fly and bullets just bounce off of them and they can lift a train without breaking a sweat. It just doesn't add up.
> Captain America was fighting toe to toe with completely normal people while Thor was able to summon lightning and casually toss around cars. How is that any different?
There is a massive difference between Captain America, who is genetically enhanced to a point where he can hold a helicopter and take blows from Thanos (one of the strongest people in the universe) and Batman whose arms would rip to pieces if he held a helicopter and would disintegrate if Thanos punched him. This comparison is just ridiculous. The better comparison would be Tony Stark to Batman actually. And we see the difference much more clearly. The Stark TECHNOLOGY allows him to go toe to toe with his fellow avengers. He can make a suit to increase his speed, his strength, his durability, anything. It's an EXPLANATION. Batman is just running around in tights in almost all comic books and films (the metal suit aside, which sucked and was no iron man suit, superman ripped it off like tissue paper). Batman makes no sense in the justice league.
Batman is basically a genius and has peak level human conditioning. you add the Wayne fortune and Wayne enterprises R&D.
he can't go meta humans toe to toe but Batman usually exploits their weakness or his money affords him the technology to do so.
Batman dons the black high tech suit after Knightfall in Troika. with Bats he's been retconned a few times so, it depends.
you really need clever writers to write for Batman when he's with the Justice League. Batman doesn't scale very well for over the top capeshit. this scene with him against Darkseid. Bats stands zero chance one on one, but get what he wants because he out smarts him.
personally I think Batman is better when he's fighting crime and being a detective in Gotham.
>I'm not a fan of comics to begin with
Keep it that way
Watch the Timmverse DCAU if you want to see how a nicely meshed DC cinematic universe looks. I might even say it's the best capeshit we've ever got. Dare I say, actual Cape Kino. Up there with Fleischer Superman.
Batman The Animated Series
Superman The Animated Series
Static Shock
Justice League
Batman Beyond
Justice League Unlimited
Obligatory Huntress tummy
JLU is a legit 10/10 and has the best intro song
yummy tummy
Warner's knows this. Hence the stand alone Batman or Joker films.
Regardless of the quality of the films themselves, I think DC tried to move into the massive-team-up, universe-destroying, multiversal shit way too fast. We should've gotten a couple years of just solo movies (of good characters) so we had time with them before smashing them all together.
At over 10 years old it's certainly the most long lived disaster. At least the proposed universal monsterverse had the guts to call it quits after 2 flops.
At this point there is no saving it since people get confused about what movie or version of the characters is "canon" to the DCU.
Without even checking, I'm not sure if this Ezra Flash is supposed to simply be a continuation of the one from the previous movies or if it's some reboot and why Keaton's Batman is in it and are we supposed to pretend the rest of the characters are known to us from before or what?
It's just sending weird mixed signals about what it is and what it wants to be.
This is the kind of clusterfrick that killed the western comics industry. Too many weird tie-ins and wonky continuity and different takes on characters in rapid succession.
>At this point there is no saving it since people get confused about what movie or version of the characters is "canon" to the DCU.
Yup, companies and Cinemaphile really underestimate how easy is to confuse normalgays and when they can't follow anymore they just stop caring.
>Gunn gets hired to save the DCU
>Superman will fight some native american shaman and a woman with nanites
>not adapting Birthright and going from there
good luck
>>not adapting Birthright and going from there
Birthright is a terrible comic and I am tired of pretending it's not.
>Superman flopped so hard he was outgrossed by fricking Aquaman
>no new Green Lantern
>Snyder autism
>Jared Leto autism
>Justice League blowing its load too early
>BvS, conceptually
>Suicide Squad followed by a half-reboot called The Suicide Squad
>short lived soft-reboot by Dwayne Johnson
>Ezra Miller's endless controversies
>Black Adam has a Cavill Supes end credits scene three weeks before another fricking universe reboot
>WW1984, conceptually
>Batterson film has no connection to DCEU
>Joker has no connection to DCEU
>pre-reboot films still in the pipeline at the same time as the Gunnsverse
>almost every single movie has CGI ranging from muddy to atrocious
>three box office flops in a row after a decade of flops and near-flops
Am I missing anything?
it's equally embarrassing and impressive that Batman vs Superman, the first time these characters have ever been together on the big screen, at one of the heights of the superhero movie crazes, made less than a billion dollars.
I love how morons like you keep forgetting that this was a new series, the audience knew it, and they were obviously not going to make that billion right off the bat, so a movie that made 800 million was somehow a fricking failure. Nolan didn't make his billion until the second Batman movie and it took three or four movies for the MCU to hit a billion.
For one it wasn't a new series, it was a sequel to Man of Steel.
>three or four movies for the MCU to hit a billion.
None of the MCU characters aside from Spider-Man were as iconic as fricking Batman, much less Batman vs Superman. So yes it's a failure that he couldn't crack a billion with a movie that should've printed money. Your only cope is to try to compare it to movies that came out 5+ years before it rather than where the industry was at the time. BvS was not competing with Captain America or Iron Man 1, it was competing with Civil War.
>this was a new series
With two of the biggest characters in comics
Why isn't this making a billion then? It has Christopher Reeve and George Reeves Supermen together for the first time!
>cameos
>ugly
>fricking up the Flashpoint Paradox storyline
>universe is being rebooted
I forgot they also shitcanned an entire completed Batgirl movie
A movie that I guarantee wasn't worse than the Flash, no matter how "woke" it was
How are they "losing money" from tickets? That's not how it works. The theater's the one losing money if they keep a dead movie in theaters. Might be splitting hairs. Either way, it sucks because the movie's actually great.
Considering Zaslav thought Flash was amazing and people still had issues with it, if he even thought Batgirl was bad, it was probably a 1/10 film.
I heard the fight scenes were shot "found footage style" though cellphones or some shit.
Birds of Prey, which was nothing more than a Margot Robbie vanity project to the extent that they went out of their way to hire relatively unattractive actresses so Robbie wasn't outshone.
The lady from Scott pilgrim is way hotter
you forgot
>Shazam 2, conceptually
Batgirl was so bad, they canceled it without even releasing it
The plot was laughably bad. It was basically kickass but for girls. Barbara goes to a Halloween party dressed as Batman, beats up a bunch of guys while bystanders record, becomes “batgirl”
>Barbara goes to a Halloween party dressed as Batman, beats up a bunch of guys while bystanders record, becomes “batgirl”
Basically how it happens in Batgirl Year One. Minus the cellphone footage.
Jokerverse not connected to DCverse OR Batterverse. Batgirl literally 100 million dollars tossed in the bin.
Every post-Snyder movie completely bombed
Birds of Prey was retitled halfway through its theatrical run.
Plus Harley's redesign in that movie was unanimously disliked
Amber Heard controversies led to WB reducing her screentime in the next aquaman movie
The first Suicide Squad's director making a big fuss about his director's cut
Cyborg's actor got blacklisted
Amber Heard
>Superman
>guy who constantly looks constipated and doesn't want to be Superman
>they managed to cycle to his death of superman arc within three showings of him barely being Superman
>Batman
>can't even keep track who is supposed to be Batman now and in what movie
>Wonder Woman
>Miss Israel who can't act and every time she shows up there's some middle-eastern lalala chanting going on
>Ezra
>played by a gay gay who keeps making gay gay expressions in every shot
>Aquaman
>who the frick even cares
>Green Lantern
>Green Lantern?
>Blue Beetle
>Batman is fascist, ICE raids, etc...
Fricking embarrassing.
It’s worse Ezra Miller mostly fricks women it’s shameful
He's still had a million pricks in him.
And im not one of them, the world is a cruel place
>Cinemaphile hates Ezra so much like every other media-worshipping cuck that they support the rape and molestation of underage boys
Funny how hating Ezra makes you a horrible person, since doing so requires enabling actual abusive buttholes and criminals
I could’ve saved him…
What would have saved him? Converting to Christianity?
By saving him from his sister and Hollywood fricking his bussy
What other profession would a moron like him even excel at other than being exploited? He was basically born to be abused. He is the last child of the family, neither of his sisters were forced into show business because they’re intelligent educators or scientists, only Ezra the high school dropout was made into a dancing monkey because it’s all he was good for. He would have been better off being born a girl, then at least he’d be slightly less fricked up.
I’d support him and root for him to go back to get a GED and do his best and if he couldn’t do it I’d still love him and he could be my secretary
That's surprisingly wholesome, I like that. He'd be good at that.
such a beautiful man
Did you watch the movie? He's naked like 75% of the time in it
He's funny looking in some still-shots, but in motion he's definitely got this alluring quality to him. Ironically enough he had the most chemistry with himself out of any other character.
>mfw I realized this wasn't a gif, but a 4 minute scene in the film
>What would have saved him?
An exorcism perhaps. He is a troony israelite, he cant be a christian
That Kimmel interview was pretty astonishing, hearing the audience whoop and clap and laugh as he painstakingly recalled how his sisters use to turn him out and parade him around in dresses and mindbroke him.
>cyborg
>ugly suit
>says booyah with no excitement
No one but Snyder were capable of handling his characters.
Yes. They have Superman, Batman, and the Justice League. And they still fricked it up. Hiring/trusting Snyder and those writers was absolutely stupid. BvS pretty much kneecapped this universe.
Indiana Jones 5 is making the same box office as The Flash with almost twice the budget so no, not really
Capeshit is dead. Even Marvel slop isn’t generating hype anymore. We could be on the verge of a new kino era or CBMs could be replaced with something even worse.
Cyberpunk Gangster mini-flicks that premier on Tik Tok.
ydiagamechads, its our turn
2024 onwards will be the decade of buddy cop synthwave
We will see a reemergence of neo-noire/Private Investigator films. I for one welcome them with open arms
Warner Bros executives and producers do not like or understand their DC properties and do not want to make films out of them
How do you "lose money" from low ticket sales? Aren't you still earning money from ticket sales, just not that much?
This is how movie studios think
>you pirated my movie, I lost 20 bucks!
>but I never would have bought it?
If you show a movie that sells 10 tickets when you could have shown one that would have sold 25 you lose 15 tickets worth of revenue.
when will dc learn that people just want more of these two movies?
Watchmen was a huge flop though
The one on the right bombed, and the one on the left is already filming a sequel.
unironically what was the last DCEU film to not flop tremendously?
Aquaman. Sure Shazam made money but it had no actual footprint.
Its the end of capeshit (thankfully)
My local kinoplex only has one showing. It's over
It's pretty big. I think Aquamong was the only capeslop of theirs to make a billy. Unless you count In A Society.
WB should've stepped the frick back and let Snyder cook. He was forming kino and they ruined it all.
they let him cook with 2 of their most iconic characters and it turned out he wasn't cooking shit
Filtered pleb
snyder was filtered by the box office
The box office was fine though, it was RT that was filtered hence buck breaking WB execs
>Batman vs Superman, the first time these two iconic characters have been on screen together
>makes less than a billy
>makes less than fricking Captain Marvel and Guardians of the Galaxy
nah he got filtered
Nah
what do you mean nah? the DCEU is dead in the water and the only cultural impact snyder's "kino" has was people laughing at the Martha scene
You got BTFO gay just stop poasting go get some air
Well more importantly they wouldn’t have lost any money and the DCEU would’ve been finished by now if they didn’t frick up
Who decided to spend 300 million dollars on a b stringer solo film in a dead franchise? How do senior management at all these huge companies get away with being so incompetent? I'd get fired if I lost 300 bucks.
Probably. The truly baffling and hilarious thing is that everybody knew it was a disaster and yet Warner Bros insisted on doing it anyway.
it's projected to lose Warner 200 million but I don't think it'll be the biggest flop this year. I think that crown will go to Disney's Indy 5 movie, it's looking to lose 250 million.
That Indiana Jones movie is such a big misfire, should've made that as soon as they got Lucasfilms instead of waiting so fricking long, it should've come out in 2016 and it would've been a guaranteed success, now after the pandemic and people getting sick of hollywood it had no chance
that would have been the time to strike, I think people kind of know the drill at this point.
legacy male hero is now an old broken man to be replaced by female or diverse insert.
nobody wants to see that. it took audiences time to catch on to it but now it's basically a trope and one that isn't very well liked.
KK has ripped to shreds every male legacy character in the Lucasfilm IP catalogue.
It shouldn't have been made at all along with Crystal Skull because Indy is an iconic character and nobody wants to see him as an old fart getting sassed by people who they want to establish as the next Indy.
It's demeaning, demoralizing and humiliating.
The fact they they pretend that people "want" these movies is even more sickening.
I still can't comprehend how they fricked up a Batman & Superman team up movie. They were teasing that shit since 2006 with I Am Legend. It's such an easy layup but they fricked it up for an entire generation. Just baffling.
>Batman V Superman
>"But batman and superman are on a team wtf"
>the V stands for WITH!
knew itd be dogshit at that exact moment.
Who wants to see capeshit after Avengers flopped off the face of the earth. All the build up for fricking nothing. Universe movies are garbage. No one even remembers the last Avengers movie.
I'd say the murder of Lucasfilm at the hands of Disney is probably a bigger disaster.
Reminds me of when EA bought Westwood and then promptly killed it.
The Star Wars movies aside from the Solo one at least made money. They were fricking awful and probably could've made more but they all cracked a billy.
They made money but at the cost of killing the brand and still aren't out of the red on their purchase. I was counting the imminent implosion of Indiana Jones as well, too.
I'd be pretty surprised if they aren't out of the red on it given toy sales and merchandising and everything else. They bought it for fairly cheap given how much it was worth because Lucas just wanted to get rid of it.
>Indiana Jones
tbh I don't even blame them for Indiana Jones. That shit was already dead. Who the frick wants to watch an Indiana Jones with 80 something year old Harrison Ford now? I don't even get why it was made.
>I'd be pretty surprised if they aren't out of the red on it given toy sales and merchandising and everything else.
homie, do you realize the SW toys and merch have been rotting on shelves for years now? TLJ killed the sales.
>I'd say the murder of Lucasfilm at the hands of Disney is probably a bigger disaster.
>create trillions of raging and crying manbabies in the process
totally worth it
They should've dropped DC right after Batman vs Superman, they should've known that people were not really interested in another cinematic universe, they should've known that Snyder was not the right choice from the start, they should've known that people only cared about the Marvel Cinematic universe but they got tricked into thinking people cared because back when they were making these movies capeshit was really popular (thanks to Marvel) so they kept going
Now it basically killed their studio, it's their fault
They also made the mistake of trying to dive right into a "cinematic universe" rather than letting it form naturally. Marvel went through a lot of films before coalescing into a connected universe. Then again who knows if it could be replicated.
There was nothing wrong with BvS though, WB was gaslit by critics and the mcu aka Disney. Justice League was such a massive embarrassment and the 2hr mandate (for a fricking ensemble movie) imposed by the president at the time was pure sabotage.
it wasn't just critics who didn't like it. even normies could only laugh at the martha scene. I don't know a single person who actually had anything positive to say about it outside of this moronic board, and the fact that a Batman vs Superman movie didn't make more than a billion and was outgrossed by fricking Guardians of the Galaxy despite being a concept that's been hyped up for 10+ years is telling enough.
The theatrical version was shit. The director's cut was better, but by that point it wasn't going to get any better.
>There was nothing wrong with BvS though
Don't try to rewrite history, pajeeto, everyone made fun of that shit when it came out and DC was considered off brand Marvel thanks to those movies
>WB was gaslit by critics
More like they were "gaslit" by the awful word of mouth. BvS didn't even double it's opening. Do you have any idea how terrible that is? BvS huge opening had frick all to do with Snyder, it sold on the premise alone then fell off because people hated it.
BvD was fricking trash. Superman was complete trash. Justice League was complete trash (I've only seen the Snydercut). The entire DCEU was lazily tossed together trash and Snyder was a big reason for that. The guy lost it a long time ago. When was his last really good film? 300? Watchmen maybe?
They got greedy and wanted to do crossover movies before even establishing their indvidivual heroes.
Watchmen was only good when 1:1 adapting the panels of the book with no understanding of what made the book so great.
The tone was wrong.
Snyder wanted to make something grimdark and edgy with the same tone as Watchmen (which he also completely misunderstood) and the audience was into quippy fun Marvel network of movies that work all together in unison.
he could've gone grimdark and edgy if he made batman movies but for whatever reason he tried to do it with superman
I still can't believe how fricked up Superman was.
In his first showing he simply just acts depressed, brooding and reluctant to do anything. He remains like this to the end of the movie where he is forced to snap his enemy's neck because he has no other options.
In the next movie he is already in the "Death of Superman" phase, while Batman is in his TDKR phase, which are like endgame points for their respective characters.
For Superman this should come after a career of being a world icon, which in this setting he never was since there was no time or movies to show it.
Then he gets revived and ....does next to nothing again.
He never really got to be anything resembling what he's supposed to be like. He might as well be a completely different character.
Okay James we get it, you’re going to show us the “real” superman
Nolan's Batman only worked on a couple of cases before calling it a day
Nolan's Batman arguably leaves Gotham in a worse state than when he started. He saves them from a nuke sure but Bane totally fricked the place
it seems Nolan's Batman took some inspiration from Knightfall. DKR was setting up Joseph Gordon-Levitt to presumably to be Azrael, which in that series mid life crisis and back broken Batman chooses him to take up the mantle of Batman.
This. Snyder is a complete idiot with a huge ego who somehow got a studio to believe his bullshit, and ruined them
No he was unironically too smart for capeshit.
Nobody wants deep character studies, they want flash and quips. In that sense he WAS a total idiot.
>Nobody wants deep character studies, they want flash and quips.
And that's why Joker made a billion dollars. Snyder isn't anywhere near as clever as you or he thinks he is
Joker wasn't capeshit.
They marketed it as a movie about mental illness and society.
>No he was unironically too smart
Then explain Army of the Dead
i doubt snyder is responsible for that kind of layout and micro-managing
Frick you, Cavill superman is great
He could've gone all grimdark and edgy if he was in the least bit capable of writing a script, which he isn't
Great director, gets great performances out of his actors, elite-level eye for composition and action, but just zero ability in front of a keyboard and it's always been that way
And then the bright and colorful action packed quipfest that was Aquaman made a billion. Funny how Snyderfans want to take credit for it when it plays nothing like a Snyder film.
I liked the contrast b/t quippy stupid Marvel bullshit and the DCEU's grimdark edgy & broodsphere but WB execs decided the world couldn't have both bc they only wanted to appease ONE audience and they fricking failed at it. Though I saw The Flash in the late afternoon b4 the night showing, I was literally the only one in the theater. Had some genuine laughs, but that's not what makes me like a superhero film. It ruined flashpoint w/all the unnecessary comedy.
There’s no reason anyone here should be truly angry with Snyder. The mad lad did more damage to Hollywood than whatever “occupy wall street” moronation could ever hope to achieve. He single handedly caused the collapse of capeshit and cinematic universes. Now Hollywood will become better for it because now they have to try and make good movies, or die trying, either way it’s a win win. And now Snyder gets to do whatever he wants with an unlimited budget from Netlix. Bravo.
>he single handedly caused the collapse of capeshit and cinematic universes
no he didn't. the MCU continued to print money for years after his moronic shlock and now it's only failing because marvel blew their load and doesn't know what to do now
The rejection of bvs is what led to modern capeshit
capeshit was quippy before BvS that doesn't make any sense
The Flash has more sovl than most capeshit in recent memory
it doesn't deserve to flop
Why won't lgbtq+ and their allies turn out to support Ezra? Surely there are enough to make it successful?
lol[spoiler]
Trannies hate Ezra most of all because trannies are all easily brainwashed leftists.
The only people who don't hate Ezra are media literate centrists able to evaluate information critically and impartially.
how do you own the rights to some of the most recognizable superheroes on the planet like batman, superman and wonder woman and drop the ball so hard
should be a slam dunk
It's remarkably easy. Sony was fricking up Spider-Man so hard they were killing the brand in the US. Amazing Spider-Man 2 only made 200mil domestic, the same as Superman Returns. They were just lucky third workers love Spider-Man but it was slowly dying there as well.
Then there were all the frick ups Fox had with the X-Men. All the talk about Flash being "the biggest bomb ever" just reminds me people have short memories. Remember Dark Phoenix? 250mil box office on a budget of 200mil at least.
The least said about the Fantastic Four the better.
You can have the most popular characters on the planet but they will crash if you keep making trash.
They screwed it up before that by messing with Spider-man 3. Raimi had something that worked for two films, Tobey was liked in the role.
No we need more characters to sell more toys.
The same happed with Batman, Batman Returns was 'too dark' the next was a trashfire. Then Batman and Robin broke the series.
People just want to see fun superhero schlock. Not Zack Snyder's masturbatory fantasies.
my 14 screen theater is still showing gotg3 but not flash lol
Now fire Ezra. Do it.
I hope he doesn't just to piss you annoying c**ts off
Shaking in your high heels, huh, Ezra?
the dude has a contract that doesn't expire until at least 2024, possibly 2025. In order to "fire" him WBD would have to spend even more money than they already did on the movie. He's also already in the process of restoring his reputation that the media damaged. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't sue someone.
>that hair
>accusing anyone else of chasing clicks
el oh el
>comparing a stupid hairdo or outfit with life-ruining lies about someone being a pedo
wow you sure showed him
Just saying you can't hold up a giant neon sign saying "give me attention" and then accuse other people of the same thing without coming off like a detached moron which is an image he has perfected over the years.
>be you
>get triggered at gaytard actor wearing funny gaytard outfits, something that doesn't even effect you since no one forced you to look at the outfits
>this means it's an excuse for people to defame him with false allegations as sponsored by Rolling Stone
you're a slippery slope moron
>omg why do you even care you must be triggered
yeah yeah dont forget I'm totally obsessed and probably just want to frick him
Gadot, Affleck, Miller, Eisenberg. It’s like -Zack Snyder went out of his way to make the most baffling casting decisions.
Capeshit is finally dying, thank fricking God, rest in piss.
Gunn's DCU is dead on arrival.
Stay out of KERALA Gunn you bastard you are so brave to have the name GUNN when that may be the only thing that will save our heroes in the DCEU
>that may be the only thing that will save our heroes in the DCEU
You are so right, only a pedophile rapist can save the heroes of DC.
i will not pay for superman legacy, because gunn is a homosex homosexual and it will look like a youtube show and because of AA casting and because "legacy" is a stupid fricking name, so pretentious
i didnt read the thread, but yes.
BLOODY BASTARD DO NOT REDEEM THE GUNNVERSE
Snyder had some good ideas but his superman depiction fricking sucked
I still think MoS could have been salvaged. But BvS completely killed that, and this universe.
Wrong. What killed the universe was DC attempt to replicate the MCU style and tone, which just made them be seen as the Pepsi version of the MCU.
Man of Steel was a depressing piece of shit next to Reeve's Superman
Batman Vs Superman was a dirge of a movie
Justice League (either version) was boring and a CGI bloatfest
correct on all accounts.
snyder is a fricking hack and his bootlicking sycophant fans are morons
LMFAO
wew lad
honestly, outside of the US the flash is a nobody (just like aquaman, green lantern and every suicide squad member beside the usual 3)
Unlike aquaman who is a global phenomenon, right?
>Unlike aquaman who is a global phenomenon, right?
because of Momoa, not because he's a known character
Read the first paragraph, cinema rent is confirmed....for the sisters who doubted it
what a shit summer jesus
if you look at the box office list for the past two months, 6 of the top 10 earners lost money anyway
>The Justice League isn't good with mental health
>If I, Batman, truly wanted to stop crime I would give just give away all my money or something
I don't like holes being poked in the mythos. Respect it or get the frick out.
Is there even a close second, unironically?