I think It's because as escapism has become a bigger part of people's lives, some of them can no longer tolerate their perfect imaginary world being destroyed by something that they don't like happening in it. I remember this video that talked about how Isekai in the 90's used to be about characters finding themselves in imteresting new worlds, having their adventures and fun but eventually going back to "real life", nowadays it's the other way around, meaningless existance replaced by perfect escapism, God forbid the MC goes back to his world, Sonny Boy threads were a really good example of this.
Problem is the leap from you're not supposed to like him to him being the villain/ evil. He's supposed to be fuck up that grows and learns but the idea of needing to cancel problematic elements completely and extending that to characters itself loses all nuance when a character's arc learning not to be like that. Scott leading on a teenager and avoiding ending it because he's adverse to confrontation doesn't mean he's a groomer or abusing Knives he's just a greasy pussyshit and that's part of his arc.
This. Whether Scott is actually "likeable" is beside the point. The real takeaway is that Scott himself is so concerned about liking himself that he can't admit his own unlikeable qualities to himself. This stunts him as a person and the only way for him to move forward is to come to grips with the ways he mistreats those around him.
Hiding Scott's negative qualities at first was not a way to trick the reader into liking Scott, it was a way to illustrate how people commonly delude themselves about their own shortcomings.
How is it not absolutely clear he's a scumbag after
A) Dating Knives
B) Cheating on Knives
C) Dumping Knives in a cowardly way
Like this happens right off the bat so you know he's an absolute douche
Re-reading those pages made me realize that Scott really didn't deserve Knives at all. Especially after he tried to pull that "dating outside of your race" bullshit out of his ass on her.
Short answer is because we understand that that's his rock bottom and he grows as a person after that. Also, regarding A, great care is taken to make sure we know he's not taking advantage of her.
Well that's the thing: Scott isn't evil, but he absolutely is a douche of a human being that's too retarded to properly realize that he hurts people and partially just doesn't really care when he does. He's not taking advantage of the fact that Knives is young, innocent, ignorant, and a Scottaholic, but he nevertheless treats her terribly.
I liked him when I was 18 and the movie just came out.
Rewatched it recently at 30 and could not help but cringe. So the new show is doing everything right by letting him and everyone else learn their lesson.
You can relate to a character without liking them.
Most people have either been or know a Scott Pilgrim in their life. He represents an ideal that isn't really good, but it is attractive and real at a really specific point in people's lives.
It's why when you're a divorced man hitting his 40s you don't revisit your silly love comedy to "fix it". It's not truly yours anymore, whether you made it or not.
The problem isn't that you like or dislike a character but that you put him on a pedestal to the point you'll take offense when said character gets his comeuppance, even though he was asking for it since day one. A similar shit happened with Death Note. Even to this day you'll find people SEETHING that Light didn't win at the end.
No one ever said that
He's literally a generic self insert power fantasy, what is this fembrained comment?
he subverts the power fantasy by failing constantly and getting with a woman who, by the end, the reader doesn't like very much
I think It's because as escapism has become a bigger part of people's lives, some of them can no longer tolerate their perfect imaginary world being destroyed by something that they don't like happening in it. I remember this video that talked about how Isekai in the 90's used to be about characters finding themselves in imteresting new worlds, having their adventures and fun but eventually going back to "real life", nowadays it's the other way around, meaningless existance replaced by perfect escapism, God forbid the MC goes back to his world, Sonny Boy threads were a really good example of this.
Who is that? The main character police?
Problem is the leap from you're not supposed to like him to him being the villain/ evil. He's supposed to be fuck up that grows and learns but the idea of needing to cancel problematic elements completely and extending that to characters itself loses all nuance when a character's arc learning not to be like that. Scott leading on a teenager and avoiding ending it because he's adverse to confrontation doesn't mean he's a groomer or abusing Knives he's just a greasy pussyshit and that's part of his arc.
Scott is likable and relatable in ways that make you realize that you are also pretty fucked up.
This. Whether Scott is actually "likeable" is beside the point. The real takeaway is that Scott himself is so concerned about liking himself that he can't admit his own unlikeable qualities to himself. This stunts him as a person and the only way for him to move forward is to come to grips with the ways he mistreats those around him.
Hiding Scott's negative qualities at first was not a way to trick the reader into liking Scott, it was a way to illustrate how people commonly delude themselves about their own shortcomings.
>You're not supposed to like Rorschach.
No, you're just a shitty guy, worse than him op
Not surprising considering this site, look at LULZ
You're not lol, you're not banned from doing so but he did not intend for him to be that way
>you're not supposed to like the only morally correct character in the series
Of course you love the psychotic retard
He's an asshole but i like him.
'ate Scott Pilgrim, not raciss just dun like 'im is all
Twitter was a mistake
How is it not absolutely clear he's a scumbag after
A) Dating Knives
B) Cheating on Knives
C) Dumping Knives in a cowardly way
Like this happens right off the bat so you know he's an absolute douche
Re-reading those pages made me realize that Scott really didn't deserve Knives at all. Especially after he tried to pull that "dating outside of your race" bullshit out of his ass on her.
Short answer is because we understand that that's his rock bottom and he grows as a person after that. Also, regarding A, great care is taken to make sure we know he's not taking advantage of her.
Well that's the thing: Scott isn't evil, but he absolutely is a douche of a human being that's too retarded to properly realize that he hurts people and partially just doesn't really care when he does. He's not taking advantage of the fact that Knives is young, innocent, ignorant, and a Scottaholic, but he nevertheless treats her terribly.
You also learn he is a jobless loser that mooches off his friends and is a complete leech everywhere he goes.
Yeah but he had a job a few months back and gets a job halfway through.
He's literally me
I GOT INTO COLLEGE AND GRADUATED BUT I GO NEVER GOT THE FUCKING HIGHSCOOL GF?? WHY THE FUCK DID I TRY? FUCK EVERYONE OP I WANTED TO "BE" SP
My dude did nothing wrong.
I heard this comic had a lesbian couple, so i never bothered to read it.
But I want to check out the movie.
Faaaaaag
The only people complaining about this shit are white guys. The fuck? lol
Not even the cool white guys and chads, its the cornyass folk
you can like a character and know they are loser slacker or a piece of shit
You're not supposed to like bojack horseman either and homosexuals still use him to justify their depression and shitty behavior.
I liked him when I was 18 and the movie just came out.
Rewatched it recently at 30 and could not help but cringe. So the new show is doing everything right by letting him and everyone else learn their lesson.
>We weren't talking about the character!
>DOHOHOHO
You can relate to a character without liking them.
Most people have either been or know a Scott Pilgrim in their life. He represents an ideal that isn't really good, but it is attractive and real at a really specific point in people's lives.
It's why when you're a divorced man hitting his 40s you don't revisit your silly love comedy to "fix it". It's not truly yours anymore, whether you made it or not.
The problem isn't that you like or dislike a character but that you put him on a pedestal to the point you'll take offense when said character gets his comeuppance, even though he was asking for it since day one. A similar shit happened with Death Note. Even to this day you'll find people SEETHING that Light didn't win at the end.