Is there a weirder animated film?

Its super controversial and shamed for its horrible retelling of a tragedy, yet still popular and iconic enough to be revered as a classic

Thus it exists in a weird limbo zone where Disney will awknowledge its existence for promotional material and their "princess" canon, but will never let it appear in their mainline entertainment again (live action and kingdom hearts)

Does anything else come close?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nowadays Snow White and Sleeping Beauty are considered controversial because of the lack of consent for a sexual act, but Disney has no issue trotting the princesses out.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kissing a girl on the mouth without consent is a sexual act? Even when it needed to snap them out of something very serious ?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's been considered sexual assault for the past ten years.

        Pocahontas existed irl, (that wasn't even her real name btw) she got kidnapped, forced to marry, raped, gave birth and died from some disgusting european disease at 21. Or that's the current narrative anyway.

        I heard real-life Pocahontas loved living in England. She was treated like a celebrity and as a young woman she enjoyed the attention.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I heard real-life Pocahontas loved living in England. She was treated like a celebrity and as a young woman she enjoyed the attention.

          Stockhold syndrome.Or the kidnapping rapist just wanted to look like a good guy..

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Other women would come up to Pocahontas and admire her. She got to wear fancy dresses and glittery israeliteelry. What teenage girl wouldn't want all that attention?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The ones who are doing it when they were kidnapped for the family rape by an adult bad as the age of a child at Foster spent the last of her life and to deny her previous cultures basic practices such as being forcibly washed off her tribal tattoos. Do you know what kind of trouble pape does to a child ?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I heard
          And I heard you are a huge homosexual, but we both need I sources, I have your post as mine, what are yours?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's been considered sexual assault for the past ten years.
          What the frick should the princes do then

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lecture the masses on the evils of capitalism and how they're guilty of perpetuating the patriarchy?

            The ones who are doing it when they were kidnapped for the family rape by an adult bad as the age of a child at Foster spent the last of her life and to deny her previous cultures basic practices such as being forcibly washed off her tribal tattoos. Do you know what kind of trouble pape does to a child ?

            Pocahontas was likely treated well in Jamestown because if anything bad happened to her, the Powhatan would retaliate and the English were severely outnumbered.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Explain what’s wrong with it

    >inb4 it’s not accurate to the original tale
    Do you have any idea what happened in the original Pinocchio story?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pocahontas existed irl, (that wasn't even her real name btw) she got kidnapped, forced to marry, raped, gave birth and died from some disgusting european disease at 21. Or that's the current narrative anyway.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Or that's the current narrative anyway.
        What do you mean current narrative?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        she was assassinated

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hunchback and Hercules are pretty weird when you consider the source material also. Not bad movies for their own sake, but interestingly weird.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah true enough about the promotional material. I saw some stuff from this movie when I went to see Elemental and saw an ad for Disney world.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not really. All the other movies Disney hates are ones that nearly killed the company like Black Cauldron.
    I loved the artstyle they gave Pocahontas but...yeah they're never doing anything substantial with this shit again. They even got shit for making her too white in Wreck-it-Ralph 2.

    Then again I won't put it past Disney to try again, one day.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was Oscar bait. Beauty and the Beast was nominated for Best Picture so Disney wanted to try again with more serious subject matter.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Both were beautiful, but the idea a person can learn the gist of the English language with the gust of the wind was dumb.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Disney is going out of their way to remove ANYTHING relating to Song of the South from their branding (a film that at worst, showed a freedman being happy and positive, and used the word "tar baby"), from retheming Splash Mountain to wiping away Zip a Dee Doo Dah from their line of music entirely

    >Meanwhile, the film that ages up a real Native American child who was forced to convert to another religion, wed a white man, was dragged to England, and died of illness before she could return home to ail her own homesickness, is perfectly fine

    Look, I'm not saying that Song of the South is innocent, but the hypocrisy is interesting.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick, Frozen II had the native people sing a Christian hymn.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Merchandising. The answer is merchandising. Little girls (and childless adult men) still love Pocahontas. You aren't going to get many people lining up for Uncle Remus pins or to get an autograph.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        We all know that Brer Fox, Bear, and Rabbit plushies would've sold like hotcakes, they just didn't want to

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's ok to extort Native Americans, not African Americans. Because according to American politicians, slavery was the only tragic thing that happend in American history. Not the genocide of an entire race of people or anything...
      Meanwhile in the real world, both Biden and Trump's administration have been trying to screw over the Navajo Nation for CLEAN water for a while now. But God forbid we don't celebrate Juneteenth.
      I know this is mostly a /misc/ response, but I find the hypocrisy incredible. According to Disney, it's alright to race-swap white/ginger characters to be black, but why not Latino? Hispanic? Native American? Kinda paints a picture of where Disney is as a company.
      As far as Pocahontas goes, yes it is insensitive, but at least it's something. At least they brought attention to a race of people that most people probably never even knew existed. And unlike black people who scream for representation, Natives don't really do that, if anything thier glad when thier recognized in the mainstream, only because it never really happens nowadays. Is the film full of innacuracies? Yup. Do natives care? Nope. Do white people think it offensive? Yup. And now stuff like this movie and the Washington Redskins are viewed as offensive. Further erasing Native Americans as a whole...

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    anon if the same thing happened to twink men in wartime you would have your ass up in the air

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    SAVAGES

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anastasia was kinda weird, I guess
    >hey you know that one teenage princess who was murdered along with the rest of the russian royal family and dumped in a mass grave? what if we make a magical movie about her still being secretly alive, oooohh
    >also Grigori Rasputin is there and he's a lich and he has a little bat sidekick that talks like a dead israeli comedian

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I believe Anastasia's body wasn't identified until many years after her death. Because of that, it was rumored that she had escaped somehow. A young woman named Anna Anderson lied and claimed she was Anastasia for a time during this period.

      So really, the movie plays up the hopeful if not delusional belief that a real-life princess got her happy ending.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Women in such positions have only two options- be raped & married or raped & killed.

    If you don't want to be an incel, try looking at things from a woman's perspective.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know what is really weird? This is only renaissance Disney movie where the sequel actually has some worth to the continuity, as it portrays the REAL interesting stuff in the real story like she going to Europe, actually meeting the villain of the first movie and leaving Mel Gibson for the guy she married IRL
    It's also extra wild, because she convices the king of england to stop colonization forever all by herself

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The sequel is ironically better than the original film. Uti is the best character in the franchise.

      It's ok to extort Native Americans, not African Americans. Because according to American politicians, slavery was the only tragic thing that happend in American history. Not the genocide of an entire race of people or anything...
      Meanwhile in the real world, both Biden and Trump's administration have been trying to screw over the Navajo Nation for CLEAN water for a while now. But God forbid we don't celebrate Juneteenth.
      I know this is mostly a /misc/ response, but I find the hypocrisy incredible. According to Disney, it's alright to race-swap white/ginger characters to be black, but why not Latino? Hispanic? Native American? Kinda paints a picture of where Disney is as a company.
      As far as Pocahontas goes, yes it is insensitive, but at least it's something. At least they brought attention to a race of people that most people probably never even knew existed. And unlike black people who scream for representation, Natives don't really do that, if anything thier glad when thier recognized in the mainstream, only because it never really happens nowadays. Is the film full of innacuracies? Yup. Do natives care? Nope. Do white people think it offensive? Yup. And now stuff like this movie and the Washington Redskins are viewed as offensive. Further erasing Native Americans as a whole...

      The US continues to frick over the native people. Most reserves don't even have electricity.

      I just hope we don't act like the Native Americans are going extinct because they're marrying outside their race.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I don't want to help the Noble Savages beat up Ratcliffe especially when I found out how those psychos killed Ratcliffe in real life.
    >googles

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