Is there any saving the MCU at this point?
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No, short of a full reset and even then cape-fatigue is at an all time high.
phone posters should be range banned
The problem is they just aren't making anything that makes you actually like the new characters.
"Woke" isn't the problem, the bad writers are.
>"Woke" isn't the problem, the bad writers are.
How do you think the bad writers got elevated to their positions in the first place?
It's also that the GA mostly checked out after Endgame. That was the "complete story", the long hinted at main villain goes down as multiple of the OG heroes go down in a heroic sacrifice.
You say fatigue, but if they made good shit instead of She-Hulk and Love and Thunder, reception would've been better.
I want Xochitl to beg for me to pull out while Elizabeth is holding her down
>"hey little girl, make one of those ticky tacky dnace videos you homosexual kids like so much, we need to sell this fricking piece of shit movie because the last couple didn't make us fricking shit for money"
>pedobear.jpg
She's literally a child.
You Black folk seriously simp for this pie-faced b***h?
>GOTG 3 the second highest earning movie this year and only Mission Impossible and maybe The Marvels having a chance to beat it
MCU is fine, the general audience is just more selective now, they can’t put out garbage and expect to make billions, see: Ant Man 3.
GOTG3 is the exception now, not the rule.
All their new shit has tanked
Even L&T tanked despite having the only remaining old guard hero in the title.
>760 million dollars
>Top 8 In worldwide box office last year
>made the same amount as The Batman
>despite probably being the most hated MCU movie with horrible word of mouth
>”tanked”
L&T would have made a ton more if it was considered a good movie, which further proves my point of audiences being more selective. GOTG had fantastic WOM, and would you look at that, it made a lot of money and is still earning.
>despite probably being the most hated MCU movie with horrible word of mouth
Since when is GotG3 that?
He’s talking about L&T dummy
It wasn’t a good movie though.
Even that is doing worse than the previous film. They're on a downward slope now
>Even that is doing worse than the previous film.
>GOTG3 did poorly compared to the previous two installments
homies what are you talking about? Vol. 3 isn't even out of theaters yet at it's at $822.5 million, Vol. 2 hit 869 million. Vol. 3 will likely just about outperform its predecessor, which is actually quite incredible for a post-covid film.
Personally I think the others stuff looks lame, but GotG Vol.3 in no way under-performed. Step out of the youtube hatewatcher algorithm for a minute.
>>GOTG 3 the second highest earning movie this year
>this year
Anon that sucks, especially if you look back at either earlier movies or the year before.
>The Marvels
HA. The only thing that shitty movie has a chance of beating is the little mermaid and elements.
GOTG3 did poorly compared to the previous two installments, that was their last chance in having a potential comeback. You just have to accept the fact that all franchises and series have their peaks and we’re past it.
>The Marvels
Look, I have nothing against Captain Marvel, or Monica Rambeau, or Ms Marvel (or Iman's breasts on that tight suit), but I really don't see that movie being anything other than a flop.
I remember when people said that about Captain Marvel.
Obviously this one doesn’t have Endgame boosting it up. But I still won’t be shocked if it pulls solid numbers. If Secret Invasion ends up being a hit that would really help it.
I'm not sure Disney can buy their own tickets now
Gotg 3 was the last movie they did that actually focused on a straight white male hero.
So no surprise that it did well while the other flopped.
better question: why would anyone want to?
it's been 15 years of this shit, something like 50 movies, who wants more?
Do the people who write these articles not have a thesaurus? How many times can one use "woke" before it loses all meaning?
Woke is the right's version of (and that's a good thing)
You'll have to forgive them. They're all Floridians.
It already has lost all meaning. I bet if you asked them to define it, they'd struggle to find a way to word it in a way that wouldn't get them done on hate speech.
An important tactic of the party is the destruction of language. In this case rendering every possible definition of "Woke" down to "what we disapprove of." without of course breaking down why it should be disapproved. Instead this disapproval and the reasons for it are treated as self evident with no need for discussion or introspection. When the party wants your opinion, they'll give it to you.
i keep forgetting how out of touch this place is.
I guess that happens when troony mods ban anyone who isn't a libtard.
Its easy to think that way if everyone left of Hitler is a cultural marxist commie
Just like anyone to the right of Mao is a nazi?
They're screwed if The Marvels doesn't win audiences over. Black Widow, Shang-Chi, Eternals and Quantumania tanked badly. Thor 4 and Black Panther 2 made money but did worse than their predecessors. No Way Home was a fricking huge surprise and made that big dick Maguire money but most of it went to Sony and Dr Strange 2 was only successful because of the Multiverse hype. Bad word of mouth stopped it from hitting a billion. Hell, even GOTG3 struggled to begin with. If not for good word of mouth, it could have sunk. I honestly think Marvel are fricked now.
O just don't care about any of this anymore. The big payoff is just going to be the Marvel properties from Sony, Fox and Disney having a big punch up on multiverse world.
Cape shit is dead zedd
Is there any way to save us from OP's moronic rehashed threads every single day?
Friendly reminder that they chose to adapt the All-New All-Different era which is quite literally the most hated era in comics for the same reason, of course movies were going to have the same problem.
Yeah this. Imo they should've skipped shows and had Moon Knight and She Hulk introduced in films.
It doesn't help they shit on Tony and Steve every chance they get.
Honestly, if they really really land solid with X-Men, there's a fighting chance. But they're not going to land solid
>Honestly, if they really really land solid with X-Men, there's a fighting chance. But they're not going to land solid
It'll probably do standard "X-Men movie without Jackman" numbers, it's not going to carry the MCU.
I really think it could if they got someone perfect as the focus character instead of an ensemble. Like I could see a really solid Cyclops, Rogue or Gambit centric movie making decent bucks
The issue is,
1) thick agenda. People want to be entertained at the cinema, not lectured.
2) shitty and fake directors that make people with eyes actually wonder if they are directing anything or they're just paid to put their name in the credits, and the studio is the one directing.
3) Characters and arcs nobody cares about. I couldn't care less about Eternals, or Thor's solo movie (name two out of the 4 he got that weren't shit), or oh jeez Wanda is defeated by little children throwing pillows at her noooo.
4) I'm not paying overpriced tickets and drinks, for all of the above. Much less so in the absolute garbage economy we're at with all the aid packages bullshit and the whole "oh no, bird flu, gonna have to set fire to all the chicken factories, yup yup" and chicken now costs X2 of what it did 4 years ago, despite 0 bird flu cases happening before, during or after. Basically I don't have money to waste on something you did not put any effort into.
Yes. They can cancel all productions right now, wait a couple of years, and reboot the entire MCU starting with a remake of Iron Man. Add in just enough changes to make it appear clever. Make every movie in the same order, ending with Endgame. Then repeat the process.
The real value of the Multiverse is not to make complicated dimensional-travel stories that give headaches to normies. It's to sell the same thing over and over again while claiming to do something new.
But isn't that one of the reasons the comic side is slowly dying for decades now? This is like repeating that cycle again
I would say the reason comics are dying is because they've become impenetrable to those outside of the hobby. I called this back when the first MCU shows started on Disney. The MCU is becoming homework. It requires too much investment.
The MCU has already found just how much of a cinematic universe the mainstream will tolerate. They already have a good skeleton of a story that they can make superficial changes on, and have a good excuse to do it. It took just over a decade to finish, meaning there is a fresh batch of 10 year olds who haven't seen any of this.
Start with Iron Man. Choose a few different heroes for the Avengers. There are infinite universes, and infinite combinations of teams defeating Thanos in an infinite of ways. Just do it.
Kate Bishop
The actress who plays Ms. Marvel
>Kate Bishop
Why did she have to be so cute?
Am I the only person who liked Eternals? It's been the only movie this phase that genuinely tried to do something new.
Sure it failed at it, but it tried. And I'd rather watch genuine attempts that suck over lukewarm color by numbers successes.
Yes, very likely. It was genuinely one of their worst movies by a country mile.
>Cast that is way too large.
>They spend so long with them acting like family but they never feel like family and feel more like strangers forced together.
>They constantly talk about old events we have no context for and then like an hour later suddenly we get 10+ minute flashbacks of stuff we do not care about at all.
>Half the actors feel like they're only there for a paycheck, especially Angelina Jolie.
>Gay black man, Bollywood man, and bootleg Wu are the only likable characters at all.
>A majority of the characters outside of Superman have powers that are supposed to be godlike but feel like they could be beaten by a mutant.
>Game of Thrones man was so unbearable I hated every scene he was in despite the actor clearly trying.
>They blast by the "Deviants gaining sentience" stuff to rush to push Superman as the big bad.
>Fights are a blur at times, they snap to hits that disorient you, make the Eternals look like a complete joke, make you question how any of them took down an entire planet of these things, and make everyone including Superman look underpowered.
>Even then Superman completely trounces almost everyone including mute Flash.
The only good part was the celestial stuff, that stuff was genuinely cool.
It's okay they can just make another spiderman reboot
The story would be more successful if Ms Marvel was in the first Avengers, Why it would be better? Because we would have more actors more in tune with the characters, less freedom for directors like Taika and Gunn, more fidelity to the comics, but they decided to go the other way and now I think it's really over, especially with the people who are there, they are more worried about an Oscar than making products that will please the fans.
>more fidelity to the comics
Questionable, very questionable
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Man, old conservative grifters and vulture capitalists can play you idiots like a fiddle with the right buzzwords.
Cope, sneed, and mald. You were warned what would happen when the cultural marxists were allowed to have their way. Now reap what has been sown.
Being "woke" wasn't the problem with these movies. Being aggressively medicore was the problem. If you removed all the lesbian stuff from America's background, Dr Strange would have still be a mediocre movie.
>critics admitting they're not audiences
Did hell just freeze?
THEY JUST FIRED CHIEF DIVERITY OFFICER LMFAO
Oh?
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/disneys-diversity-chief-latondra-newton-033150269.html
>It's real
Frick off, Meatball.
>literal who article
>from LAST YEAR
I could save the MCU.
Let me write the blade movie, I will whip up pure kino. I'd bet my life on it.
Sorry dude, Blade's already in progress and it's not Wesley Snipes reprising his role. It's bootleg Wesley Snipes.
The original draft script of Blade reboot is so bad that even he hates it
scrap it all and put me in charge. i'll make some kino with cottomouth blade.
if they actually made a movie focused on a cool and heroic white male protagonist that is treated with respect and also feature women getting sexulized and depicted as comic relief instead of men for a change I would watch it.