Vidya is still reliably 2-3 good games a year at least.
2 years ago
Anonymous
1998 - Radiant Silvergun, Ocarina of Time, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Sakura Wars 2, Starcraft, Langrisser V, Parasite Eve, Xenogears, Suikoden II, Baldur's Gate, Fallout 2, Starcraft Brood War, Shining Force III, Dragon Force II, Half-Life, Grim Fandango, Thief The Dark Project, Tom Clancy Rainbow Six, Pokemon Red and Blue, Street Fighter Zero 3, Tekken 3, Gran Turismo 2, Myth II: Soulblighter, Resident Evil 2, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, Metal Gear Solid, F-Zero X, Banjo Kazooie, Sonic Adventure, Unreal, Falcion 4.0, Starsiege: Tribes, Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven, Brave Fencer Musashi, Quest for Glory V: Dragon Fire, Star Ocean II: The Second Story, Dragon Warrior Monsters, Link's Awakening DX, Puyo Puyo RPG, Magical Tetris Challenge, Crash Bandicoot: Warped, Tomb Raider III, Spyro the Dragon, Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus, Battlezone, Blood II, Turok 2, Need for Speed III Hot Pursuit, Mario Party, Tenchu: Stealth Assassins, Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes, The Last Blade 2, The King of Fighters '98, Metal Slug 2, The House of the Dead 2
There were more good games in 1998 alone than there were the last 15 years combined
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not just that. It's dlc, micritransactions, all this crap. Vidya easily declined more than anything else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
that all started in the mid 00s though, and right now its just a mobile game format dominated hellscape.
the greatest of the great games showed great potential for the future. the golden age of gaming was when everything was improving more and more every day, with no conceivable limit. then the limits slowly crept in and what we have is clearly all we're going to get.
Okay, compare that to Anime where it's just Moeshit after moeshit with low effort animation and literally the same storylines over and over again.
Or music, where 90% of it is just horrific rap music that actually degrades the culture around us.
Vidja, at least you have the indie scene, even if that's being slowly corrupted and Poz'd.
Vidya has declined for so long that the kids who started gaming during the decline are nostalgic for the glorious past now.
There was a time where we got absolutely groundbreaking games every couple months, then there was the era where all the major IPs got started and the games stagnated in regards to graphics and gameplay but at least they got new settings and the presentation noticeably improved.
And now is the era of rehashes and played out shit combined with absolutely evil monetization tactics.
I'm only 25 and mostly prefer older games at this point, luckily there's lots for me to go through. Last modern games i actually liked were disco elysium and ghost of tsushima. Most of the trite shit out there i'm not even bothering with.
>There was a time where we got absolutely groundbreaking games every couple months
1998 was the greatest year in vidya history, and you can't convince me otherwise.
Yeah Pokémon came out in like 95 and they haven’t successfully altered that formula for nearly 30 years. Every time they’ve tried it’s been a disaster even though it seems intuitively like anyone should be able to make a cool game with fighting dragons and turtles with cannons on their back and stuff.
But they realized that selling jigglypuff dolls was where 90% of their revenue came from and just keep trying to make the next plush doll craze with these dumb cutesy Pokémon designs.
It really shouldn’t be hard, just pick an animal and an element. How about an elephant that shoots fire from his trunk?Instead they’re like “How about a mundane household object… but it’s like a ghost/fairy thing? And make it annoyingly cutesy looking too”
Video Games tanked so hard after 2005 it's insane, like it's not even a gradual decline it's like falling into a abyss. Movies it's a gradual decline over the decades
I'd Argue however Anime is even worse now than gaming
Name 10 classic made between 2000-2005. Now name 10 made between 2006-2010. Movies went to shit far more rapidly than games did. FFS one of the most soulful games ever made (Oblivion) came out in 2006 and there were tons of classics released in the late 2000s which was also peak "gamer culture".
>Video Games tanked so hard after 2005 it's insane
2005 is a very special date in computer science. It's the year where CPU frequency stopped scaling. Before 2005 due to exponentially increasing CPU speeds developers could just innovate with entire new features that were "unlocked" by having new faster hardware. After 2005 CPUs have largely stagnated and gone with a parallel approach from multi-core systems, but these do not allow the same gameplay innovation to take place.
The only things still improving are GPUs which is why 2022 games have 2005 tier AI and level design but really good rendering.
We're NEVER going to experience the golden age of videogames from the late 1970s to 2005 again due to this.
This makes a lot of sense. Recently I started making a new game, something I thought was simple but very computation intensive. I always wondered why I never saw it online before. Anyway, turns out it just doesn’t run fast enough, and the algorithm is sequential so multi threading barely helps. So the AI is borderline moronic. Meanwhile it looks aesthetically pleasant. I tried nearly every CS trick possible. What a fricking shame.
I was talking about something similar to my Dad, he was talking about going from a Vic 20, to a Spectrum to C64, to Amiga and then dozens of x86 machines. It hit me that within about 5 years in the 80s he had 5 different computers. Two iMacs I have in storage, a 2007 and 2011, still work perfectly fine. the 2007 C2D isn't great, but the 2011 with a 3rd gen i7 can still do basically everything I throw at it, aside from have the latest OS because of its GPU
My 2005 Pentium 4 ran at 4ghz. The fastest CPU in 2022 runs at 5ghz. Sure it has faster ram, bigger cache, more instructions per cycle and a lot more cores. But at the end of the day the bottleneck is still the clock frequency for a lot of calculations (especially in gaming). So in 17 years time CPUs have only improved 20%. It's no wonder that videogames have stagnated on this front. Sure we can have bigger open worlds due to faster and more ram, sure we can have fast loading times due to SSDs and Ram speed, sure we can have raytracing rendering due to GPUs. But can we actually have gameplay AI innovation? Nope, that's bottlenecked by single core frequency. Turns out those gameplay innovations is some of the most important things to make a game feel fresh and new. Now everything feels like a reskin of games that are already made, because that's essentially what they are since we literally don't have the processing power to create new gameplay loops.
saying clock speed prevents gameplay innovation is like saying CGI makes movies be well-written.
the issue with gaming is that gaming industry discovered normies don't care about quality and don't want to play hard games. they want casual shit they can switch off their brains playing or use as a social media or gambling platform.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>saying clock speed prevents gameplay innovation is like saying CGI makes movies be well-written.
No I mean there is a literal upper bound limit to the use of certain algorithms that can't be parallelized. Due to this gameplay innovation has stalled since about 2005. A lot of games that were in development around this time had to scale back their ambitions once they realized CPUs weren't going to have doubling clockspeeds every year anymore. A couple of games that couldn't be made anymore due to the sudden clock frequency wall in 2005:
>Spore
Will Wright started spore development with the anticipation that clock speeds would be 50ghz by the time it released. Then they saw that clock speeds stagnated and had to completely revamp the game and remove features, it's why it's now a cartoony game instead of a serious simulation
>Crysis
Originally would have featured a realistic simulation of nuclear explosions and its impact on the environment. Unlike Spore they tried to cut as few features as possible and said "Frick it CPUs in the future can run this well". It took years for it to function well and it's impossible to properly simulate a nuclear explosion in 2022 still.
Truth is that the entire game industry had to switch gears towards artistic games instead of "programmer games" because the hardware just didn't keep improving enough to keep making innovative games. So instead the industry started focusing on IPs, settings, storytelling, artstyles. It's not by choice (or at least not initially). It's because the technology forced industry to move this way.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My favorite bit is how hardware started going for multi-threading instead of overall clock speed and the video game industry took ten years to really come close to comprehending that concept.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's precisely because the algorithms people used for games were very hard to parallelize. We switched most of them now to things that work well on multi-core systems. However these are usually less powerful than the ones we used in the past and doesn't scale up well. Which means videogame gameplay stagnates, hard.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the problem though is even in 2001 it was already clear the exponential growth of clock-speeds had already stopped, but the industry as a whole ignored that, fell on its face, and its just stayed there for decades.
2 years ago
Anonymous
IIRC we had a new liquid-cooled gaming rig back in 2011 or 2012 that could finally run the original Crysis at full graphical bloom, and that thing still stuttered after an hour or two of extended play.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>dude this has massive memory leaks >uh clockspeed will like totally fix that next year
video games cratered more than a decade ago after achieving not-much. movies used to be absurdly great, and now they're video game level. music has been pretty much consisent, with high highs and low lows, but it has centuries of history. anime peaked in the 80s/90s and has been flat-lined ever since.
Nah, movies and video game quality has fallen off a cliff so hard and far it's impossible to tell which industry is now worse.
Music has never been better and anyone saying "music has gotten worse" is a dumb frick normie that doesn't listen to anything but what's playing their local radio and at the gym. Anime has been shit since their brief golden age in the 1980s/early 90s.
Is not.
Vidya and music is filled with indie and unlike movies doesn't have a Hollywood which dominate the industry.
I say that the biggest decline is comic because the difference between how marvel use the 90s popularity to sells comics and how marvel used the capeshit movie trend to NOT sells his comics is hilarious.
>I say that the biggest decline is comic
I agree with this, comics is actually the industry hit the worst.
It must be suffering to be a comic book fan seeing how everything went. I wanted to get into Spider-Man a few years back and it was all really boring and confusing stuff coming out left and right. Spider-Gwen was all the rage and they kept trying to shove wierd retcons into stuff. I didnt even bother. I saw other comics trying to pander to SJWs during that time too. I can't imagine how bad its got these past few years.
There are a fair number of older comics out there worth reading, and I say that as someone who avoided the medium for the longest time because all the modern shit is so terrible. The Dark Knight Returns is what made me change my mind on comic books, it's fantastic.
It's not like either one is good. Also, it feels natural. Capeshit has been always shit. Manga just wasn't that popular in the past, there weren't official translations and you couldn't buy most of the titles.
Music is arguably in a way better place now than it's ever been. Nowadays musicians are no longer forced to sign shitty contracts with big industry record labels just to get their music available and distributed and rather can simply promote themselves directly via social media and other platforms. Even if they don't reach as large of a fanbase an artist can still be very successful due to not having to deal with the enormous expenses and hassle of the mainstream music system which has screwed so many musicians over the years
The artists got into shitty contracts but at least we got good quality products. Self publishing means any talentless hack can pretend they're a musician, which ends up dragging the overall quality of the industry down, since normalgays with no taste will listen to anything. Specially if it's rap shit, I seriously don't get the appeal.
It's hilarious how miserably incompetent comics nowadays are. They deserve to go the way of the Dodo.
Think about it, imagine you're a young boy who's just watched Captain America: Civil War, and you want to buy comic books of your favourite characters to get into them.
Let's say you want an Iron man comic, BUT WAIT, turns out he died during the second civil war and he's now replaced by some black genius teen. Okay then, not Iron man, let's try Hulk, BUT WAIT, turns out Hulk died too and was replaced by some chink who doesn't even have anger problems and can control himself perfectly okay as the Hulk. Well that's just shit you think to yourself.
What about Captain America? Dead too. What about Thor? MIA and is now a woman.
Whilst the MCU was at its peak in popularity and arguably could've saved Marvel comics had they capitalised on its popularity, but instead they focused on rebooting MS. Marvel like the clinical morons they are.
Agreed. Hollywood is horrible but there are still great films coming out every year from smaller productions. Meanwhile most video games are just broken mediocre messes
Indie games are terrible and the most tryhard pseudo attempsa t being deep. Video games are not deep, there are maybe a handful of games in the entire history of the industry that could be called deep. The indie trash that's called "deep" by gamers are only that because said gaymers are the low iq capeshit devouring morons.
Look up how much kino came out during the 90s, then check out the early 2000s and come back and compare it to current year.
Games have dropped off, but that's a slower and more pathetic death, blame expensive voice actors, the unrealistic graphics demands and the mouth breathing morons that keep buying loot boxes that have all contributed to the increasing cost of making video games.
Also, Gamergate can definitely be blamed for allowing video game journalism to become so terrible that we can never get honest critiques on video games from the mainstream and allowing pink haired morons to break into the industry.
Video games journalism have been corrupt for many years before Gamergate. IGN is infamous about it's moronic takes because none of their reviewers were gamers.
>No. It's objectively video games.
Have to agree. I've actually quit gaming, because everytime I was playing a game (or any newer game), it would ask me for more money. Like how fricking insulting is that. I bought this game brand new for like $60, and on like the third screen you're asking for another $20 for some half baked extra content? And it's everything. Want more guns? Pay up pay piggy. Want that sweet extra level? Hand over the dough. Hey, did you know the e game has cheats? But you have to give us more money to access them. Sorry buddy.
This. If you have a PC and Nintendo consoles you literally do not miss out on anything worthwhile. Nintendo basically is the last bastion for creativity and gimmicks (gimmicks are a good thing) otherwise you end up with the yearly Fifa/CoD/movie game shit.
Movies haven't really been that great since everybody moved to digital.
The mainstream video game industry is absolutely broken beyond repair. But I do think indie games, as well as whatever the frick more secondary publishers like devolver and paradox interactive are, is still doing pretty well. Even Nintendo and Sony still bring out the occasional good first party title. So, it's a bit more complex even if I do largely agree.
Mainstream, sure, but indie devs still pump uot solid stuff. Now movies... welll most indie shit is just that shit arthouse stuff that is barely coherent. So movies as a while declined way more than video games.
>It's objectively video games.
This.
I've never seen a modern demographic in recent years that bends over backwards so much for companies to royally frick them up the ass as much as modern gamers, which allows said companies to continue pushing their vile shit on to them for as long as possible.
Gaming is the dominant entertainment form now, there are no stars in movies or music. I don't like modern gaming either but it's the only medium that still impacts modern culture, other than MCU which effectively ended in 2019
Music is so much cheaper to make that there will always be good stuff, albeit hard to find. Movies are just so much less exciting than even 10 years ago. There were a dozen directors who had universal appeal and interest in their projects and now there are about 3.
Yeah and good directors don't really get to work with their real vision anymore, these big studios don't want to take ANY chances because their market research works so well that it's like printing money.
Here's one quote by Zappa, albeit from different kind of industry it still applies somewhat.
“Remember the 60s?” says Frank Zappa in the interview above, “that era that a lot of people have these glorious memories of?… they really weren’t that great, those years.” Ever the grumpy uncle. But Zappa does get nostalgic for one thing, and it’s an unexpected one: the music business. “One thing that did happen in the 60s,” he says, “was some music of an unusual and experimental nature did get recorded, did get released.” The executives of the day were “cigar-chomping old guys who looked at the product and said, ‘I don’t know. Who knows what it is? Record it, stick it out. If it sells, alright!’”
“We were better off with those guys,” says Zappa, “than we are with the hip, young executives,” making decisions about what people should hear. The hippies are more conservative than the conservative “old guys” ever were. This Zappa of 1987 recommends getting back to the “who knows?” approach, “that entrepreneurial spirit” of the grand old industry barons of the 60s.
What use is sell good product if not enough people will buy it to make it worthwhile to sell good product? Especially if there’s this one BLACK dude sitting on a ROCK off to the side shelling out billions for shit?
Your mistaken assumption is that Tyree makes enough shekels to warrant the attention of Lenny the israelite.
This is why there is an agitprop campaign to make you think you need to support Wakanda forever (hilarious, since Wakanda was invented by Stan Lee who couldn't even come up with a historically accurate name like Punt) as to entice mainstream (You) to divert funds to fuel their perverted world view.
Not all israelites are evil, nor were all NSDP members either.
ya missed the point about BLACKROCK shoveling billions at the entertainment industry for making literal shit that no one wants. it was about as subtle as a hammer to the face, but that's apparently too subtle for some people.
The wide range of answers here indicates the media industry as a whole has accomplished its original goal of subverting art that would be capable of inspiring a generation of youth to rebel against the establishment.
I'd say its Movies>Music>Anime>Gaming. For video games the cream always rises to the top even if a bunch of shovelware tries to impede it. Anime has slipped into a cycle of highschool and tournament fighting bullshit. Usually they flow right into each other, and its fricking boring. Music has devolved into a collection of snap tracks, mumbling, and one sentence repetition lyrics with shit so similar "artists" are getting charged with plagiarism. Movies are the most egregious for the title of falling from grace. Everything now bows to some sort of social pressure or checklist that is more important than the substance of the film. The films themselves are constantly hampered by production by committee. There is no vision, no experimentation. Only what the "analytics" says will sell gets approved.
Based post. The indie side of gaming is still going strong. Anime has been shit since the early 2010s, the decline of music can be traced back almost entirely to Justin Bieber and was much more sudden.
The loss of Movies though will be felt much more since they were integral to America's culture.
Everything's in the shitter nowadays. The internet unironically ruined everything, because now all industries need to shit out (low quality) products at ridiculous speeds to keep up with social media trends. I'm surprised anime is so low with how shitty it is now; they just produce their 20+ gay isekai shows every season so the nips don't kill themselves. And with how little the employees get paid they've gotten significantly lazy: the artstyles are ugly, they use 3d animation mixed with 2d, it's a mess. The stories aren't good either, it's just harem shit, isekai shit or shonen shit, but that might be that I'm too old for anime already. The music industry is such a fricking mess as well, everyone can be a "musician" nowadays and that says it all.
It's been a decline for me. The transition to digital animation ruined the quality, yes, but we still got something worth watching every now and then, up until the early 2010's maybe. Now everything's the same show repeated endlessly, and weebs still eat it up because >muh waifus!!
I agree with manga being pretty good. I am reading four different modern series that are all good. Only one of those has an anime adaption and it really was an awful adaption. In fact, the bad anime adaption and censoring of a different manga made me switch to the manga.
you're really just saying you grew out of what was on display from the post-burst-bubble-economy. when in the 80s/90s, literally everyone had to stand up and recognize the objective quality on display.
Holy frick. It's been almost 20 years since I heard anyone b***h about conformists. This and the need to label everyone at the reasons we are here now.
With movies, anime and music there is at least there's initiative to make something good meanwhile "gaming" has been completely figured out and the answer was selling microtransactions for quick dopamine rush aka virtual drugs
Nope here's how it goes >Put 60% of the budget towards marketing >Dumb down your core identity and hyper-focus on streamlining for accessibility >Continue doing this and over-developing one meme gimmick to sell normies, if open world make it bigger, if a RPG make it all about waifu / coomer shit
Everything is getting worse because of institutional decline (woke). Anime has been bad for 2 decades though so it has had less of a decline by virtue of already being bad. Games are so procedural and manufactured there's no where to go because everyone is basically playing the same game they were 10 years ago, so they're remarkably consistent.
they have all declined big time, especially video games. at least when you watch a movie, you are getting the full movie and not something that's half finished because game companies think SaaS is applicable to their software when it's NOT, with the only exception being mmorpgs
Same as with all the other media: don't pay for it and let it die. Only reward them with your money if the product is good. Sure there are lots of idiots out there who will still pay to see bottom of the barrel tripe but people are slowly tuning out, look at all the shill threads b***hing about that gay Buzz Lightyear movie underperforming.
That's because everyone moved to streaming. Who gives a shit about normies buying tickets if instead millions of them pay ten bucks per month for your service. Thing is that everyone has cottoned onto that so now the streaming services are being strained, even normies won't pay for ten different services if all those services have is crap.
Honestly I think the streaming wars will be good for the industry in the long run since they can't push out woke garbage and instead will have to actually attempt to attract customers. Either way, I'll pirate in the meantime.
Since capeshit is so popular, you should know by now that the average consumer doesn't care about quality. Also, Lightyear did bad because of the controversy, without the gay shit it would've done good even while it was bad by itself.
Thor: Love and Thunder is getting eaten alive by MCU fans calling it terrible. Of course there are still the morons saying shit like, "well it's your fault for turning your brain off", but they're ridiculed and apparently do it for free.
Right now normies love Stranger Things and The Boys.
The second half of 2021 and first half of this year had been pretty good for video games imo. The second half of this year is going to be another drought though.
I dont keep up with anime or music too much, so cant comment on those much. I mostly watch older anime that I missed,
and listen to older songs I like.
Movies for sure have declined. I cant think of many recent good movies. Top Gun Maverick and Luca are the only recent movies I have seen that I enjoyed. Video games have declined for AAA studios, but there are a lot of good indie and smaller studios still making good stuff constantly. I am not sure if there is a similar thing happening for movies, but definetly what is shown in theaters has really dropped in quality imo.
I don't watch anime so it's irrelevant to me. Music I just listen to the same shit over and over again like an insane person so I couldn't tell you one way or the other about the quality, I'm just not eager to find out based on how tv and vidya have turned out. As far as those two I agree. So much is unwatchable that it's rare when I'll give something new a shot. Gaming you could have lefty shit sprinkled into it but the game overall might be a good experience, like rdr2.
>or see play
so you've just confessed you watch people play video games on youtube, thus indicating your taste in video games is completely non-existent.
it is pretty hilarious, isn't it. bunch of nips scribbling for 16 hours a day is better than anything anyone has done before or since, despite all the advances is technology.
2 years ago
Anonymous
it lost its soul back in like 2006, and the highs were just cyberpunk shit which works better in novels anyway.
2 years ago
Anonymous
good thing i was talking about the 80s/90s, ya know, bubble economy.
A lot of anime (I would even say most anime) is shit these days but at the same time Western animation has declined way, WAY harder than anime has. Like there isn't really a SINGLE piece of mainstream western animation that's been made in the past 5 years I really genuinely like.
The noticeability between new films and old films is too noticeable, everything either feels substanceless or straight-up bad, but I agree.
Gaming has the most greedy money-grubbing bullshit, but its advancements in technology tend to always mean that it feels like at least some aspect of it is progressing as opposed to movies.
Popular music is pretty ehh but there's so much different music being made (by far the lowest bar of entry) that you can find stuff you like pretty easily.
Anime has always been about just providing raw entertainment and is still that, despite the standards for what that means changing a bit.
None of you are properly equipped to answer this because you're all mainstream plebs. The limitations that you impose on yourself are not the faults of the medium. Just because you're a hollywood prostitute that only watches dumb american action movies full of cgi doesn't mean that's all there is to the medium right now. Same as if you just listen to what's on the popular radio stations.
You people lack the maturity and open mindedness to correctly answer this question, your limited experience with all of these mediums is not enough to pass judgement.
Where are all the mid-budget films then? We used to get some adult drama from time to time at the least. The state of mainstream films wasn't always this bad.
Remember that recent European movie which was politically incorrect like Houllebecqs books? Neither does anyone else. I'm European btw. You can see black lesbians shoehorned into decades old criminal series in Sweden and Germany all the time. It's all so obvious and lame. European cinema is completely political and dead.
Based on what you said gaming has decline the most, you absolute moron. It went from 80% to 95%, that's a 15% increase compared to the 5 and 4 % of movies and anime.
Right, but 5% of anime was good, now it's 1%. That's a worse decline than 20% -> 5%. Is this bait?
Based on what you said gaming has decline the most, you absolute moron. It went from 80% to 95%, that's a 15% increase compared to the 5 and 4 % of movies and anime.
Movies are dead.
Gaming is dead, but there is the occasional indie
Anime got worse, but a bit better than late 00s and still far above modern western shit.
Modern music is shit, but it's a thing I don't care to investigate in septh, so maybe there is some good unknown stuff out there,
I hope the next renaissance/cultural revoultion will happen during my live
Western tv is absolutely the worst thing ever. Even if they have a good first season things immediately go to shit in the second as they attempt to stretch out the story more and more. You can name your exceptions to the rule, but for every 1 actually good western tv show I can name 5 actually good anime.
Dbz and one piece have literally been stretched out for decades, try again. Stop pretending like they are an industry of integrity and arent above beating a dead horse.
Dragon ball ended decades ago. You have your shitty jump shonen made for dumb 15 years olds that get stretched out, but those are the exceptions, and even then they don't have to worry about actors aging in real time or actors becoming unavailable to return for future seasons because they took up different projects.
Basically, you're looking at the dumbest worst anime made specifically for 15 year olds and noticing the same problems the best western tv shows for mature adults such as yourself have.
you are thinking of sitcoms and cop procedurals, which are just a different flavor of shit. I would rather watch them over an isekai though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, I'm talking about hbo and netflix originals.
2 years ago
Anonymous
succession and gemstones are better than any anime ive watched in the past 5 years lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
You have shit taste.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i doubt you have even watched those shows and are thinking of GOT or some other nonsense thats been off air for years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
All that talk about soap operas and you watch fricking Succession. Get off it. And GOT does represent western tv, it was huge and very well received.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why do you think people hate soaps? Contrived drama and formulaic storytelling. Literally the same issues in most anime.
2 years ago
Anonymous
See
None of you are properly equipped to answer this because you're all mainstream plebs. The limitations that you impose on yourself are not the faults of the medium. Just because you're a hollywood prostitute that only watches dumb american action movies full of cgi doesn't mean that's all there is to the medium right now. Same as if you just listen to what's on the popular radio stations.
You people lack the maturity and open mindedness to correctly answer this question, your limited experience with all of these mediums is not enough to pass judgement.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are acting like digital animation hasn't made studios even cheaper and lazier.
>anime is great wah wah wah >no, anime has many issues just like Western stuff >not THAT anime!
Weebs are so fricking pathetic, you swallow shit just like people who watch Western shows yet pretend it's gold.
People who say this are ok with modern werstern writing, dialogue, acting, actors, casting, ideologization, archetypes, cynicism, nihilism, post-modernism, hyper focus tested shit and must never ever watch actual content made by humans for humans.
The more interesting observation here is that in basically the past decade nothing has changed and everything exists almost in a permanent state of stasis. The same games are basically still being played that were being played 5-10 years ago (GTA, Fortnite, LoL). The same goes for movies with capeshit. I can't comment too much on anime or music but i'd assume it's roughly the same. When you look back between 80's, 90's, 00's there was pretty significant stylistic changes
That's because the internet decentralized culture. In the 80s and 90s you were forced to listen to Michael Jackson and Nirvana and if you didn't you were not in the cool group.
For my money, it’s music. A few good movies manage to squeeze through each year, but I honestly can’t name a decent new musician from the past 10 years. I can’t listen to the radio at all.
It's movies. We only have Tarantino/Scorsese/Gibson with creative control anymore because they make so much cash for Hollywood. The rest is politically streamlined schlock.
>video games peaked in the 90s
Name three games from the 90s that you actually played in the last two years. I've given up on the majority of modern games and just replay older ones now, but the games from the 90s just don't hold up to the nostalgia whereas everything past the 2000s is as great as I remember.
film isn't what it once was but it's still way better than music and anime. vidya are better than both as well. of course this is a weeb site so I wouldn't expect the losers here to understand how awful anime currently is.
western shit is not worse. anime is worse than dogshit. i don't care how pozzed hollywood is, and if you're the kind that thinks hollywood encompasses all of film you are lost anyway.
Anime was never good, you watch that shit with an iota of your brain turned on and it all falls apart at how absolutely moronic it is. From the dialogue, plots and characters the writing is tremendously trite and cliched. Evangelion, Bebop, Berserk and LotGH are literally YA novel tier. Cinema declined the hardest because it was a consistent rise in quality from the silents until New Hollywood in the 70s and then it all just went to shit with 80s blockbuster consoomer culture. The best films of the 80s were done by guys who've been honing their craft since the 40s/50s like Kubrick, Kurosawa and Bergman. Literature is probably in the saddest state.
Music is by far the cheapest to make so there will always be good music. It just won’t be popular and will be less original than the good music of the past.
this. while spotify and other shit are insanely greedy israelites, its been easier than ever to make music. while yes, lady gaga and justin bieber and pop shit they play on KROCK radio stations is not good. you can still find really good shit for every kind of taste if you just look for it
If I had to characterize any of the industries, at least on the mainstream, I would say that they are samey. Mainstream music is mumble Black person trap, mainstream movies is Marvel capeshit or films for Twitter lesbians, mainstream games is just open world or sports reskins, designed to suck your wallet dry or numb your brain from all the grinding and all popular anime is either brainless shounen or high school romance / slice of life. All these suck and have declined a lot, but all of these industries have still a lot of new good things to offer if you look at the indie market, or at least not on the ultra mainstream one.
If you are talking about industry as a whole, it's clearly movies, just because the mid budget movies where the studio rolls the dice, no longer exist. It's literally only direct to streaming garbage or disney/capeshit.
Music is as broad as ever and is only really garbage if you focus entirely on the primary cultural trend; which admittedly is trash but it has been for decades.
Video games are suffering from the same fate as movies but budget doesn't have anywhere near the effect that it does in regards to movies, individual talent still shines through.
I've never been a huge anime fan, never followed it outside of the entry level titles (Bebop, Berserk, Trigun, Cory in the House etc.) So I can't really speak to it's quality at all.
The answer is anime + TV shows (excluding some miniseries). They are built around the flawed premise of an opening, boring shitty drama filler background noise, and then a cliffhanger finale in hopes they get renewed by a network/distributor.
Movies, music and Vidya don't really suffer this problem and still have an indie scene. If you watch anime beyond your teenage years or modern TV shows you are 80 IQ or enjoy eating shit.
Cope. Anime is great. >t. 140 IQ 6'3 Dionysus chad
The answer is anime + TV shows (excluding some miniseries). They are built around the flawed premise of an opening, boring shitty drama filler background noise, and then a cliffhanger finale in hopes they get renewed by a network/distributor.
Movies, music and Vidya don't really suffer this problem and still have an indie scene. If you watch anime beyond your teenage years or modern TV shows you are 80 IQ or enjoy eating shit.
> anime >They are built around the flawed premise of an opening, boring shitty drama filler background noise, and then a cliffhanger finale in hopes they get renewed by a network/distributor.
This is absolutely not how the anime industry works.
imagine not being an mmo monogamer chad like me
you don't need many games when one game consumes all your time
i have not played another video game in over 3 years
You are all concerned about new media when you have an entire backlog of all existing media that came before it that is miles and leagues better, what gives? No one is forcing you to consume garbage, if it’s worth paying attention to now it will still be there for you in 5 years
Mainstream music is definitely shit and there are so many bands finding goes shit is hard, but what has died in the music industry is just the mainstream. Before you could go to what was being put on the radio to know the cream of the crop, but these days the new "hits" are all artificially propped up to the top, all stars are manufactured, nothing is organic, so what you get presented to you is souless crap even if good music is being made... its just hard to find.
>Before you could go to what was being put on the radio to know the cream of the crop,
this has never been true lol. the whole reason grunge happened was because a bunch of bands got ignored by radio, developed their own style in one place and were then discovered all at once.
the interesting things about the poll are: >almost no one who responded watches anime, it may as well have not been an option >respondants are clueless about how mainstream music used to be vs now or they'd be more upset about it
Film and music are tied for highest highs and lowest lows. Film is currently in one of its lowest lows, and getting worse by the day. Music is in a hard middle, no real telling which way it’s going. Video games peaked around the 00s and are worse now in a gutter with occasional shit covered diamonds in places most people will never look. Anime had a dramatic peak in the early 90s with nothing but trash before and after.
Music is by far the cheapest to make so there will always be good music. It just won’t be popular and will be less original than the good music of the past.
Movies and tv are infested with woke shit now but there's still stuff that is entertaining and good. Top Gun and Better Call Saul just recently.
Video games FEEL like they've dropped off to me. It feels like things have stagnated since the PS3/360 generation with hardly any innovation. This could just be a case of me getting older and turning in to one of those boomers who only play stuff from their childhood though.
I don't know about anime because I don't watch it.
Music has to be the worst. Every single genre is in the shits right now. Country has turned in to late 00s pop with a fake accent. Pop has turned in to sheboon twerking to lyrics about gargling dicks. Rap music is horrible for like 30 different reasons. Rock/Metal is basically dead. You only get 1-2 albums a year to look forward to tops.
My God, you mean use COMMON SENSE and sell good product?
Movies and tv are infested with woke shit now but there's still stuff that is entertaining and good. Top Gun and Better Call Saul just recently.
Video games FEEL like they've dropped off to me. It feels like things have stagnated since the PS3/360 generation with hardly any innovation. This could just be a case of me getting older and turning in to one of those boomers who only play stuff from their childhood though.
I don't know about anime because I don't watch it.
Music has to be the worst. Every single genre is in the shits right now. Country has turned in to late 00s pop with a fake accent. Pop has turned in to sheboon twerking to lyrics about gargling dicks. Rap music is horrible for like 30 different reasons. Rock/Metal is basically dead. You only get 1-2 albums a year to look forward to tops.
>. Top Gun and Better Call Saul just recently. >rehash to dead ip #23651 and spin off #3465, surrounded by nothing but rehashes and spinoffs
Truly a golden age
Films are still good if you don't just watch blockbusters. The thing that's terrible is tv shows, just endless shit.
Video games had a golden age around 2011-2016 or so but for the most part is a shitty industry with not a lot to offer
Mainstream music has always been crap and full of one time wanders. There's still good music being made and most importantly, good bands still tour.
Anime has always been about finding the diamonds in the rough. It had its golden age of late 90s-mid 00s where it felt like there were more good/great anime /year but before that and since, most of what's made in a year sucks.
All industries have decline for a number of reasons.
I'm likely older than you. Convince me otherwise. We got things like Bloodborne and Nier Automata around that time. You think the peak of video games is Metroid and Counter-Strike?
No. It's objectively video games.
Good indie games still come out every once and awhile, movies on the other hand are fricking dead.
Nah, there are still good films being made.
Source?
Name a few, please.
You used to regularly get 10+ good movies a year, now you're lucky if you get a single movie per year worth watching.
How is that any different from vidya?
Vidya is still reliably 2-3 good games a year at least.
1998 - Radiant Silvergun, Ocarina of Time, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Sakura Wars 2, Starcraft, Langrisser V, Parasite Eve, Xenogears, Suikoden II, Baldur's Gate, Fallout 2, Starcraft Brood War, Shining Force III, Dragon Force II, Half-Life, Grim Fandango, Thief The Dark Project, Tom Clancy Rainbow Six, Pokemon Red and Blue, Street Fighter Zero 3, Tekken 3, Gran Turismo 2, Myth II: Soulblighter, Resident Evil 2, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, Metal Gear Solid, F-Zero X, Banjo Kazooie, Sonic Adventure, Unreal, Falcion 4.0, Starsiege: Tribes, Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven, Brave Fencer Musashi, Quest for Glory V: Dragon Fire, Star Ocean II: The Second Story, Dragon Warrior Monsters, Link's Awakening DX, Puyo Puyo RPG, Magical Tetris Challenge, Crash Bandicoot: Warped, Tomb Raider III, Spyro the Dragon, Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus, Battlezone, Blood II, Turok 2, Need for Speed III Hot Pursuit, Mario Party, Tenchu: Stealth Assassins, Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes, The Last Blade 2, The King of Fighters '98, Metal Slug 2, The House of the Dead 2
There were more good games in 1998 alone than there were the last 15 years combined
It's not just that. It's dlc, micritransactions, all this crap. Vidya easily declined more than anything else.
that all started in the mid 00s though, and right now its just a mobile game format dominated hellscape.
the greatest of the great games showed great potential for the future. the golden age of gaming was when everything was improving more and more every day, with no conceivable limit. then the limits slowly crept in and what we have is clearly all we're going to get.
Blood 2? You're out of your mind
Okay, compare that to Anime where it's just Moeshit after moeshit with low effort animation and literally the same storylines over and over again.
Or music, where 90% of it is just horrific rap music that actually degrades the culture around us.
Vidja, at least you have the indie scene, even if that's being slowly corrupted and Poz'd.
picrel
Also, Cinemaphile is missing out on pic related which is the biggest pookino of the year.
Check that, it's not the biggest but it's in the top 3 highest grossing pajeet flicks of the year.
Name 3 good movies that have come out this decade
The Northman
Pig
Licorice Pizza
>Good indie movies still come out every once and awhile, games on the other hand are fricking dead.
Vidya has declined for so long that the kids who started gaming during the decline are nostalgic for the glorious past now.
There was a time where we got absolutely groundbreaking games every couple months, then there was the era where all the major IPs got started and the games stagnated in regards to graphics and gameplay but at least they got new settings and the presentation noticeably improved.
And now is the era of rehashes and played out shit combined with absolutely evil monetization tactics.
I'm only 25 and mostly prefer older games at this point, luckily there's lots for me to go through. Last modern games i actually liked were disco elysium and ghost of tsushima. Most of the trite shit out there i'm not even bothering with.
>There was a time where we got absolutely groundbreaking games every couple months
1998 was the greatest year in vidya history, and you can't convince me otherwise.
For me, it's 2001. But 1998 is a close #2
Yeah Pokémon came out in like 95 and they haven’t successfully altered that formula for nearly 30 years. Every time they’ve tried it’s been a disaster even though it seems intuitively like anyone should be able to make a cool game with fighting dragons and turtles with cannons on their back and stuff.
But they realized that selling jigglypuff dolls was where 90% of their revenue came from and just keep trying to make the next plush doll craze with these dumb cutesy Pokémon designs.
It really shouldn’t be hard, just pick an animal and an element. How about an elephant that shoots fire from his trunk?Instead they’re like “How about a mundane household object… but it’s like a ghost/fairy thing? And make it annoyingly cutesy looking too”
Video Games tanked so hard after 2005 it's insane, like it's not even a gradual decline it's like falling into a abyss. Movies it's a gradual decline over the decades
I'd Argue however Anime is even worse now than gaming
You don't watch anime.
Name 10 classic made between 2000-2005. Now name 10 made between 2006-2010. Movies went to shit far more rapidly than games did. FFS one of the most soulful games ever made (Oblivion) came out in 2006 and there were tons of classics released in the late 2000s which was also peak "gamer culture".
>Video Games tanked so hard after 2005 it's insane
2005 is a very special date in computer science. It's the year where CPU frequency stopped scaling. Before 2005 due to exponentially increasing CPU speeds developers could just innovate with entire new features that were "unlocked" by having new faster hardware. After 2005 CPUs have largely stagnated and gone with a parallel approach from multi-core systems, but these do not allow the same gameplay innovation to take place.
The only things still improving are GPUs which is why 2022 games have 2005 tier AI and level design but really good rendering.
We're NEVER going to experience the golden age of videogames from the late 1970s to 2005 again due to this.
This makes a lot of sense. Recently I started making a new game, something I thought was simple but very computation intensive. I always wondered why I never saw it online before. Anyway, turns out it just doesn’t run fast enough, and the algorithm is sequential so multi threading barely helps. So the AI is borderline moronic. Meanwhile it looks aesthetically pleasant. I tried nearly every CS trick possible. What a fricking shame.
I'm very curious what you were trying to do.
I was talking about something similar to my Dad, he was talking about going from a Vic 20, to a Spectrum to C64, to Amiga and then dozens of x86 machines. It hit me that within about 5 years in the 80s he had 5 different computers. Two iMacs I have in storage, a 2007 and 2011, still work perfectly fine. the 2007 C2D isn't great, but the 2011 with a 3rd gen i7 can still do basically everything I throw at it, aside from have the latest OS because of its GPU
My 2005 Pentium 4 ran at 4ghz. The fastest CPU in 2022 runs at 5ghz. Sure it has faster ram, bigger cache, more instructions per cycle and a lot more cores. But at the end of the day the bottleneck is still the clock frequency for a lot of calculations (especially in gaming). So in 17 years time CPUs have only improved 20%. It's no wonder that videogames have stagnated on this front. Sure we can have bigger open worlds due to faster and more ram, sure we can have fast loading times due to SSDs and Ram speed, sure we can have raytracing rendering due to GPUs. But can we actually have gameplay AI innovation? Nope, that's bottlenecked by single core frequency. Turns out those gameplay innovations is some of the most important things to make a game feel fresh and new. Now everything feels like a reskin of games that are already made, because that's essentially what they are since we literally don't have the processing power to create new gameplay loops.
saying clock speed prevents gameplay innovation is like saying CGI makes movies be well-written.
the issue with gaming is that gaming industry discovered normies don't care about quality and don't want to play hard games. they want casual shit they can switch off their brains playing or use as a social media or gambling platform.
>saying clock speed prevents gameplay innovation is like saying CGI makes movies be well-written.
No I mean there is a literal upper bound limit to the use of certain algorithms that can't be parallelized. Due to this gameplay innovation has stalled since about 2005. A lot of games that were in development around this time had to scale back their ambitions once they realized CPUs weren't going to have doubling clockspeeds every year anymore. A couple of games that couldn't be made anymore due to the sudden clock frequency wall in 2005:
>Spore
Will Wright started spore development with the anticipation that clock speeds would be 50ghz by the time it released. Then they saw that clock speeds stagnated and had to completely revamp the game and remove features, it's why it's now a cartoony game instead of a serious simulation
>Crysis
Originally would have featured a realistic simulation of nuclear explosions and its impact on the environment. Unlike Spore they tried to cut as few features as possible and said "Frick it CPUs in the future can run this well". It took years for it to function well and it's impossible to properly simulate a nuclear explosion in 2022 still.
Truth is that the entire game industry had to switch gears towards artistic games instead of "programmer games" because the hardware just didn't keep improving enough to keep making innovative games. So instead the industry started focusing on IPs, settings, storytelling, artstyles. It's not by choice (or at least not initially). It's because the technology forced industry to move this way.
My favorite bit is how hardware started going for multi-threading instead of overall clock speed and the video game industry took ten years to really come close to comprehending that concept.
It's precisely because the algorithms people used for games were very hard to parallelize. We switched most of them now to things that work well on multi-core systems. However these are usually less powerful than the ones we used in the past and doesn't scale up well. Which means videogame gameplay stagnates, hard.
the problem though is even in 2001 it was already clear the exponential growth of clock-speeds had already stopped, but the industry as a whole ignored that, fell on its face, and its just stayed there for decades.
IIRC we had a new liquid-cooled gaming rig back in 2011 or 2012 that could finally run the original Crysis at full graphical bloom, and that thing still stuttered after an hour or two of extended play.
>dude this has massive memory leaks
>uh clockspeed will like totally fix that next year
I'd say movies and video games are tied
video games cratered more than a decade ago after achieving not-much. movies used to be absurdly great, and now they're video game level. music has been pretty much consisent, with high highs and low lows, but it has centuries of history. anime peaked in the 80s/90s and has been flat-lined ever since.
Anime ruined Japanese cinema.
Japanese cinema is still doing okay.
>Japanese cinema is still doing okay.
My ass ruined your mom lmao
Yeah, and my BBC ruined your cornhole.
Nah, movies and video game quality has fallen off a cliff so hard and far it's impossible to tell which industry is now worse.
Music has never been better and anyone saying "music has gotten worse" is a dumb frick normie that doesn't listen to anything but what's playing their local radio and at the gym. Anime has been shit since their brief golden age in the 1980s/early 90s.
Is not.
Vidya and music is filled with indie and unlike movies doesn't have a Hollywood which dominate the industry.
I say that the biggest decline is comic because the difference between how marvel use the 90s popularity to sells comics and how marvel used the capeshit movie trend to NOT sells his comics is hilarious.
>I say that the biggest decline is comic
I agree with this, comics is actually the industry hit the worst.
It must be suffering to be a comic book fan seeing how everything went. I wanted to get into Spider-Man a few years back and it was all really boring and confusing stuff coming out left and right. Spider-Gwen was all the rage and they kept trying to shove wierd retcons into stuff. I didnt even bother. I saw other comics trying to pander to SJWs during that time too. I can't imagine how bad its got these past few years.
Seems like comics are shit because of film influence+ lack of interest so they have to come up with moronic soap storylines.
There are a fair number of older comics out there worth reading, and I say that as someone who avoided the medium for the longest time because all the modern shit is so terrible. The Dark Knight Returns is what made me change my mind on comic books, it's fantastic.
>I can't imagine how bad its got these past few years.
A single manga outsells the entire US comic book industry. It's that bad
It's not like either one is good. Also, it feels natural. Capeshit has been always shit. Manga just wasn't that popular in the past, there weren't official translations and you couldn't buy most of the titles.
Music is arguably in a way better place now than it's ever been. Nowadays musicians are no longer forced to sign shitty contracts with big industry record labels just to get their music available and distributed and rather can simply promote themselves directly via social media and other platforms. Even if they don't reach as large of a fanbase an artist can still be very successful due to not having to deal with the enormous expenses and hassle of the mainstream music system which has screwed so many musicians over the years
The artists got into shitty contracts but at least we got good quality products. Self publishing means any talentless hack can pretend they're a musician, which ends up dragging the overall quality of the industry down, since normalgays with no taste will listen to anything. Specially if it's rap shit, I seriously don't get the appeal.
It's hilarious how miserably incompetent comics nowadays are. They deserve to go the way of the Dodo.
Think about it, imagine you're a young boy who's just watched Captain America: Civil War, and you want to buy comic books of your favourite characters to get into them.
Let's say you want an Iron man comic, BUT WAIT, turns out he died during the second civil war and he's now replaced by some black genius teen. Okay then, not Iron man, let's try Hulk, BUT WAIT, turns out Hulk died too and was replaced by some chink who doesn't even have anger problems and can control himself perfectly okay as the Hulk. Well that's just shit you think to yourself.
What about Captain America? Dead too. What about Thor? MIA and is now a woman.
Whilst the MCU was at its peak in popularity and arguably could've saved Marvel comics had they capitalised on its popularity, but instead they focused on rebooting MS. Marvel like the clinical morons they are.
Are any of these true?
More or less.
Agreed. Hollywood is horrible but there are still great films coming out every year from smaller productions. Meanwhile most video games are just broken mediocre messes
Indie games have saved the scene. No such luck for movies.
Name one good indie game
Indie games are terrible and the most tryhard pseudo attempsa t being deep. Video games are not deep, there are maybe a handful of games in the entire history of the industry that could be called deep. The indie trash that's called "deep" by gamers are only that because said gaymers are the low iq capeshit devouring morons.
It's movies and it's not even close.
Look up how much kino came out during the 90s, then check out the early 2000s and come back and compare it to current year.
Games have dropped off, but that's a slower and more pathetic death, blame expensive voice actors, the unrealistic graphics demands and the mouth breathing morons that keep buying loot boxes that have all contributed to the increasing cost of making video games.
Also, Gamergate can definitely be blamed for allowing video game journalism to become so terrible that we can never get honest critiques on video games from the mainstream and allowing pink haired morons to break into the industry.
Do you watch only Hollywood movies? Movies are pretty much the same. Big budget movies declined.
Video games journalism have been corrupt for many years before Gamergate. IGN is infamous about it's moronic takes because none of their reviewers were gamers.
>No. It's objectively video games.
Have to agree. I've actually quit gaming, because everytime I was playing a game (or any newer game), it would ask me for more money. Like how fricking insulting is that. I bought this game brand new for like $60, and on like the third screen you're asking for another $20 for some half baked extra content? And it's everything. Want more guns? Pay up pay piggy. Want that sweet extra level? Hand over the dough. Hey, did you know the e game has cheats? But you have to give us more money to access them. Sorry buddy.
Modern gaming is a scam.
There's still some fine AA-games + indies, but yeah, anyone with a working brain hates the type of shit that you just described.
>$60
Actually, it's $70 now. Because frick you and everything you love.
I'm 29 and I think elden ring is the best game ever made
FromSoft is unique in how good their games are. Most other developers are utter shit
>FromSoft is unique in how good their games are.
Laughs in Metal Wolf Chaos
Although as a mechgay, I only dug Another Century's Episode 3. I disliked Armored Core for some reason.
Agreed.
If you pay Nintendo and Japanese games everything is pretty much the same. It’s only Sony and Xbox that tanked hard.
This. If you have a PC and Nintendo consoles you literally do not miss out on anything worthwhile. Nintendo basically is the last bastion for creativity and gimmicks (gimmicks are a good thing) otherwise you end up with the yearly Fifa/CoD/movie game shit.
Movies haven't really been that great since everybody moved to digital.
Videogames were never. Now, movies used to be actual works of art, or even a product with standarts.
Video games peaked in 2009
Prove me wrong
Absolutley.
No way, most games are decent. It's just you've heard of big companies being shit. But even among the big studios, there is a lot of gold.
The mainstream video game industry is absolutely broken beyond repair. But I do think indie games, as well as whatever the frick more secondary publishers like devolver and paradox interactive are, is still doing pretty well. Even Nintendo and Sony still bring out the occasional good first party title. So, it's a bit more complex even if I do largely agree.
Mainstream, sure, but indie devs still pump uot solid stuff. Now movies... welll most indie shit is just that shit arthouse stuff that is barely coherent. So movies as a while declined way more than video games.
>It's objectively video games.
This.
I've never seen a modern demographic in recent years that bends over backwards so much for companies to royally frick them up the ass as much as modern gamers, which allows said companies to continue pushing their vile shit on to them for as long as possible.
indie games are still great.
indie games were never good
Even if that was the case they have only improved in quality over the years.
Nah, triple A games are pretty pozzed but movies are nothing but a pozzed propaganda vehicles these days.
This. If you cut out FromSoft games there has been nothing of value made since MGS3
Ghost of Tsushima.
Gaming is the dominant entertainment form now, there are no stars in movies or music. I don't like modern gaming either but it's the only medium that still impacts modern culture, other than MCU which effectively ended in 2019
No idea how anyone could say that music or anime hasn't declined worse than movies.
t. moron who watched less than ten shows in the 90s and now thinks that he knows everything about what anime used to be like.
It's movies.
Only morons play videogaymes past the age of twelve
Only morons watch movies past the age of twelve
wrestling
Sadly it is film. Hollywood is on life support, artistically speaking
Music is so much cheaper to make that there will always be good stuff, albeit hard to find. Movies are just so much less exciting than even 10 years ago. There were a dozen directors who had universal appeal and interest in their projects and now there are about 3.
Yeah and good directors don't really get to work with their real vision anymore, these big studios don't want to take ANY chances because their market research works so well that it's like printing money.
Here's one quote by Zappa, albeit from different kind of industry it still applies somewhat.
“Remember the 60s?” says Frank Zappa in the interview above, “that era that a lot of people have these glorious memories of?… they really weren’t that great, those years.” Ever the grumpy uncle. But Zappa does get nostalgic for one thing, and it’s an unexpected one: the music business. “One thing that did happen in the 60s,” he says, “was some music of an unusual and experimental nature did get recorded, did get released.” The executives of the day were “cigar-chomping old guys who looked at the product and said, ‘I don’t know. Who knows what it is? Record it, stick it out. If it sells, alright!’”
“We were better off with those guys,” says Zappa, “than we are with the hip, young executives,” making decisions about what people should hear. The hippies are more conservative than the conservative “old guys” ever were. This Zappa of 1987 recommends getting back to the “who knows?” approach, “that entrepreneurial spirit” of the grand old industry barons of the 60s.
My God, you mean use COMMON SENSE and sell good product?
How unwoke of you (wink, wink)
What use is sell good product if not enough people will buy it to make it worthwhile to sell good product? Especially if there’s this one BLACK dude sitting on a ROCK off to the side shelling out billions for shit?
Your mistaken assumption is that Tyree makes enough shekels to warrant the attention of Lenny the israelite.
This is why there is an agitprop campaign to make you think you need to support Wakanda forever (hilarious, since Wakanda was invented by Stan Lee who couldn't even come up with a historically accurate name like Punt) as to entice mainstream (You) to divert funds to fuel their perverted world view.
Not all israelites are evil, nor were all NSDP members either.
ya missed the point about BLACKROCK shoveling billions at the entertainment industry for making literal shit that no one wants. it was about as subtle as a hammer to the face, but that's apparently too subtle for some people.
The wide range of answers here indicates the media industry as a whole has accomplished its original goal of subverting art that would be capable of inspiring a generation of youth to rebel against the establishment.
Music
As a non weeb I'd say anime got hit the hardest, the polish and lack of soul makes 99% of the new shit unwatchable for me
Video games
Movies
Music
Anime has been always shit, so the decline is barely noticeable.
I'd say its Movies>Music>Anime>Gaming. For video games the cream always rises to the top even if a bunch of shovelware tries to impede it. Anime has slipped into a cycle of highschool and tournament fighting bullshit. Usually they flow right into each other, and its fricking boring. Music has devolved into a collection of snap tracks, mumbling, and one sentence repetition lyrics with shit so similar "artists" are getting charged with plagiarism. Movies are the most egregious for the title of falling from grace. Everything now bows to some sort of social pressure or checklist that is more important than the substance of the film. The films themselves are constantly hampered by production by committee. There is no vision, no experimentation. Only what the "analytics" says will sell gets approved.
Watch more movies.
>the cream always rises to the top
shit floats
So the stuff that sinks is that which is neither shit nor cream.
Sounds fine to me.
Based post. The indie side of gaming is still going strong. Anime has been shit since the early 2010s, the decline of music can be traced back almost entirely to Justin Bieber and was much more sudden.
The loss of Movies though will be felt much more since they were integral to America's culture.
Everything's in the shitter nowadays. The internet unironically ruined everything, because now all industries need to shit out (low quality) products at ridiculous speeds to keep up with social media trends. I'm surprised anime is so low with how shitty it is now; they just produce their 20+ gay isekai shows every season so the nips don't kill themselves. And with how little the employees get paid they've gotten significantly lazy: the artstyles are ugly, they use 3d animation mixed with 2d, it's a mess. The stories aren't good either, it's just harem shit, isekai shit or shonen shit, but that might be that I'm too old for anime already. The music industry is such a fricking mess as well, everyone can be a "musician" nowadays and that says it all.
its asking for decline. anime has been consistently shit for 20 years now.
It's been a decline for me. The transition to digital animation ruined the quality, yes, but we still got something worth watching every now and then, up until the early 2010's maybe. Now everything's the same show repeated endlessly, and weebs still eat it up because
>muh waifus!!
Manga is by far the best industry, but what ruins it is these fricking homosexuals forcing you to join their discord server to read it
I agree with manga being pretty good. I am reading four different modern series that are all good. Only one of those has an anime adaption and it really was an awful adaption. In fact, the bad anime adaption and censoring of a different manga made me switch to the manga.
>Manga is by far the best industry
Agreed.
it has high highs but the lows are absolutely terrible.
you're really just saying you grew out of what was on display from the post-burst-bubble-economy. when in the 80s/90s, literally everyone had to stand up and recognize the objective quality on display.
Anime is only low due to votes. Not everyone watches Anime, but most guys play video games, and everybody watches movies and listens to music.
>Anime is only low due to votes
Some of you people... I swear...
Why is it like this? I don't really enjoy anything anymore.
The industry became incredibly commercialized.
Conformism. Specifically, conformism to social justice ideology.
Holy frick. It's been almost 20 years since I heard anyone b***h about conformists. This and the need to label everyone at the reasons we are here now.
none of this would be happening if a certain class of people didn't exist in the us
weebs and idiots?
nah, billionaires and the investor class. if the entertainment industry had to actually draw audiences, they couldn't just bait investorbux.
Jews
Yeah, woketards
To think all this happened because of the defeat of the German Army at Stalingrad... what a dark timeline.
With movies, anime and music there is at least there's initiative to make something good meanwhile "gaming" has been completely figured out and the answer was selling microtransactions for quick dopamine rush aka virtual drugs
Nope here's how it goes
>Put 60% of the budget towards marketing
>Dumb down your core identity and hyper-focus on streamlining for accessibility
>Continue doing this and over-developing one meme gimmick to sell normies, if open world make it bigger, if a RPG make it all about waifu / coomer shit
Anon never votes on these things because it involves clicking on a link on Cinemaphile. You polled a bunch of newbies.
Everything is getting worse because of institutional decline (woke). Anime has been bad for 2 decades though so it has had less of a decline by virtue of already being bad. Games are so procedural and manufactured there's no where to go because everyone is basically playing the same game they were 10 years ago, so they're remarkably consistent.
Astute observations
they have all declined big time, especially video games. at least when you watch a movie, you are getting the full movie and not something that's half finished because game companies think SaaS is applicable to their software when it's NOT, with the only exception being mmorpgs
How can we make movies be good again, bros?
Ban cgi. It's literally the main reason why modern movies suck.
Same as with all the other media: don't pay for it and let it die. Only reward them with your money if the product is good. Sure there are lots of idiots out there who will still pay to see bottom of the barrel tripe but people are slowly tuning out, look at all the shill threads b***hing about that gay Buzz Lightyear movie underperforming.
the entertainment industry has stayed alive despite the ad revenue and ticket sales being completely dead for a decade.
That's because everyone moved to streaming. Who gives a shit about normies buying tickets if instead millions of them pay ten bucks per month for your service. Thing is that everyone has cottoned onto that so now the streaming services are being strained, even normies won't pay for ten different services if all those services have is crap.
Honestly I think the streaming wars will be good for the industry in the long run since they can't push out woke garbage and instead will have to actually attempt to attract customers. Either way, I'll pirate in the meantime.
anon, even with the most ideal revenue figures possible, streaming is nothing compared to heyday box office or broadcast.
Since capeshit is so popular, you should know by now that the average consumer doesn't care about quality. Also, Lightyear did bad because of the controversy, without the gay shit it would've done good even while it was bad by itself.
Thor: Love and Thunder is getting eaten alive by MCU fans calling it terrible. Of course there are still the morons saying shit like, "well it's your fault for turning your brain off", but they're ridiculed and apparently do it for free.
Right now normies love Stranger Things and The Boys.
Break up the mega corps.
We need to put creative control back in the hands of people with vision, and not let anyone else interfere. I assume the change is coming.
All of them equally at 100%
2019 was the last decent year for film. The last decent year for video games was 2017, and that was mostly carried by indies.
>2019 was the last decent year for film.
Yeah, 2019 was actually quite kino
The second half of 2021 and first half of this year had been pretty good for video games imo. The second half of this year is going to be another drought though.
The pandemic destroyed the movie industry forever or definitely hastened its decline. Now everyone just moved to streaming.
You must be a zoomie to believe anything from 2019 was worth shit. Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
Lol movies dies with the XX century, even if there were some pearls in 00s.
Games died 15 years ago or so, even if we get the occasional indie.
I dont keep up with anime or music too much, so cant comment on those much. I mostly watch older anime that I missed,
and listen to older songs I like.
Movies for sure have declined. I cant think of many recent good movies. Top Gun Maverick and Luca are the only recent movies I have seen that I enjoyed. Video games have declined for AAA studios, but there are a lot of good indie and smaller studios still making good stuff constantly. I am not sure if there is a similar thing happening for movies, but definetly what is shown in theaters has really dropped in quality imo.
I don't watch anime so it's irrelevant to me. Music I just listen to the same shit over and over again like an insane person so I couldn't tell you one way or the other about the quality, I'm just not eager to find out based on how tv and vidya have turned out. As far as those two I agree. So much is unwatchable that it's rare when I'll give something new a shot. Gaming you could have lefty shit sprinkled into it but the game overall might be a good experience, like rdr2.
Television is surely the worst, right?
no, the past 10 years of television has been fantastic
>the past 10 years of television has been fantastic
If you said that in 2012 you'd have been right. In 2022 the past ten years has been shit.
im counting stuff that was already airing in 2012 though, lots of good tv from that point on
Anime has gotten better since 2017. Only Cinemaphilessholes say otherwise.
What's sad is that they've all seen incredibly drastic drops in quality
(Games least of all)
because they've been inconceivably shit for over a decade, right?
There's still ~5 really good games coming out every year
vs 1 good movie every third year
And 0 good music
(In terms of relatively main stream stuff)
feel free to define "really good"
Me like to play or see play
>or see play
so you've just confessed you watch people play video games on youtube, thus indicating your taste in video games is completely non-existent.
Not YouTube
I watch my friends play
the people on youtube are not your friends
Jerma is
for anime to have declined it first would have had to have been good.
it was, you don't know what has been lost.
It wasn't. It'snot even a medium, just japanese cartoons. At best you can say that animation declined.
>animation has declined
and nothing outside of japan ever got close to anime.
lmao
it is pretty hilarious, isn't it. bunch of nips scribbling for 16 hours a day is better than anything anyone has done before or since, despite all the advances is technology.
it lost its soul back in like 2006, and the highs were just cyberpunk shit which works better in novels anyway.
good thing i was talking about the 80s/90s, ya know, bubble economy.
80s LA movies were just as good
Yes, buf it's not like there's many good anime in the first place. Japanesr cinema absolutely shits on anime.
A lot of anime (I would even say most anime) is shit these days but at the same time Western animation has declined way, WAY harder than anime has. Like there isn't really a SINGLE piece of mainstream western animation that's been made in the past 5 years I really genuinely like.
Films/anime since they have gotten used to playing it safe.
Yeah I'd say accurate.
The noticeability between new films and old films is too noticeable, everything either feels substanceless or straight-up bad, but I agree.
Gaming has the most greedy money-grubbing bullshit, but its advancements in technology tend to always mean that it feels like at least some aspect of it is progressing as opposed to movies.
Popular music is pretty ehh but there's so much different music being made (by far the lowest bar of entry) that you can find stuff you like pretty easily.
Anime has always been about just providing raw entertainment and is still that, despite the standards for what that means changing a bit.
This just shows that the people who voted don't watch anime or listen to music.
There are still good movies being made. It's music that has declined
>music
>movies
>gaming
>anime
That's the proper order of things
It's either Music or Movies.
Both have had actual times of quality. Meanwhile anime and video games have never really been great.
>Music
>Movies
Power-gap
>Videogames
None of you are properly equipped to answer this because you're all mainstream plebs. The limitations that you impose on yourself are not the faults of the medium. Just because you're a hollywood prostitute that only watches dumb american action movies full of cgi doesn't mean that's all there is to the medium right now. Same as if you just listen to what's on the popular radio stations.
You people lack the maturity and open mindedness to correctly answer this question, your limited experience with all of these mediums is not enough to pass judgement.
Years ago you didn't need to dig like a paleontoloigist to find good stuff. Thank you for supporting OP's point
Yes you did.
Where are all the mid-budget films then? We used to get some adult drama from time to time at the least. The state of mainstream films wasn't always this bad.
Remember that recent European movie which was politically incorrect like Houllebecqs books? Neither does anyone else. I'm European btw. You can see black lesbians shoehorned into decades old criminal series in Sweden and Germany all the time. It's all so obvious and lame. European cinema is completely political and dead.
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
The only mediums worth taking a deep dive into is lit, music and film.
20 years ago it was like this:
80% of games are terrible
90% of films are terrible
95% of anime is terrible
Now:
95% of games are terrible
95% of films are terrible
99% of anime is terrible
So based on that I guess anime has declined the most?
>So based on that I guess anime has declined the most?
your own figures show the smallest decline though
Right, but 5% of anime was good, now it's 1%. That's a worse decline than 20% -> 5%. Is this bait?
Are you... an actual moron?
American maths is genuinely depressing to witness.
You'd think he'd catch his goof when pointed out to him but he just doubled down.
I was talking about you but that's ok, champ. Say hi to your uncle dad for me.
Do you have difficulties with counting, dumbo?
that's [decline of good anime] not [decline of anime] as stated in OP
Based on what you said gaming has decline the most, you absolute moron. It went from 80% to 95%, that's a 15% increase compared to the 5 and 4 % of movies and anime.
Movies are dead.
Gaming is dead, but there is the occasional indie
Anime got worse, but a bit better than late 00s and still far above modern western shit.
Modern music is shit, but it's a thing I don't care to investigate in septh, so maybe there is some good unknown stuff out there,
I hope the next renaissance/cultural revoultion will happen during my live
people who say this shit about anime being way above western shit must never ever watch any good tv at all.
Western tv is absolutely the worst thing ever. Even if they have a good first season things immediately go to shit in the second as they attempt to stretch out the story more and more. You can name your exceptions to the rule, but for every 1 actually good western tv show I can name 5 actually good anime.
Dbz and one piece have literally been stretched out for decades, try again. Stop pretending like they are an industry of integrity and arent above beating a dead horse.
Dragon ball ended decades ago. You have your shitty jump shonen made for dumb 15 years olds that get stretched out, but those are the exceptions, and even then they don't have to worry about actors aging in real time or actors becoming unavailable to return for future seasons because they took up different projects.
Basically, you're looking at the dumbest worst anime made specifically for 15 year olds and noticing the same problems the best western tv shows for mature adults such as yourself have.
you are thinking of sitcoms and cop procedurals, which are just a different flavor of shit. I would rather watch them over an isekai though.
No, I'm talking about hbo and netflix originals.
succession and gemstones are better than any anime ive watched in the past 5 years lol
You have shit taste.
i doubt you have even watched those shows and are thinking of GOT or some other nonsense thats been off air for years.
All that talk about soap operas and you watch fricking Succession. Get off it. And GOT does represent western tv, it was huge and very well received.
Why do you think people hate soaps? Contrived drama and formulaic storytelling. Literally the same issues in most anime.
See
You are acting like digital animation hasn't made studios even cheaper and lazier.
I wouldn't group those together
Why not?
>anime is great wah wah wah
>no, anime has many issues just like Western stuff
>not THAT anime!
Weebs are so fricking pathetic, you swallow shit just like people who watch Western shows yet pretend it's gold.
Western shit is woke therefore worse by default
People who say this are ok with modern werstern writing, dialogue, acting, actors, casting, ideologization, archetypes, cynicism, nihilism, post-modernism, hyper focus tested shit and must never ever watch actual content made by humans for humans.
The more interesting observation here is that in basically the past decade nothing has changed and everything exists almost in a permanent state of stasis. The same games are basically still being played that were being played 5-10 years ago (GTA, Fortnite, LoL). The same goes for movies with capeshit. I can't comment too much on anime or music but i'd assume it's roughly the same. When you look back between 80's, 90's, 00's there was pretty significant stylistic changes
That's because the internet decentralized culture. In the 80s and 90s you were forced to listen to Michael Jackson and Nirvana and if you didn't you were not in the cool group.
For my money, it’s music. A few good movies manage to squeeze through each year, but I honestly can’t name a decent new musician from the past 10 years. I can’t listen to the radio at all.
It's movies. We only have Tarantino/Scorsese/Gibson with creative control anymore because they make so much cash for Hollywood. The rest is politically streamlined schlock.
Movies peeked in the 60s.
Video games in the 90s.
Anime in the 90s-early 00s.
Don't know enough about music
But pre 80s-90s movies - 8/10
Movies now - 6/10
Hollywood now - 2/10
Video games then - 6/10
Now - 3/10
Anime then 4/10
Now 1/10
Overall it's still worth to watch movies, just not Hollywood movies, but you can completely skip vidya and anime and won't miss much.
>video games peaked in the 90s
Name three games from the 90s that you actually played in the last two years. I've given up on the majority of modern games and just replay older ones now, but the games from the 90s just don't hold up to the nostalgia whereas everything past the 2000s is as great as I remember.
Chrono Trigger, super metroid, ff9.
>Name three games from the 90s that you actually played in the last two years
Hyperduel
D&D Tower of Doom / Shadow Over Mystara / Rise of Warduke
Metroid 3 (Super Metroid)
XCOM (1994 version)
film isn't what it once was but it's still way better than music and anime. vidya are better than both as well. of course this is a weeb site so I wouldn't expect the losers here to understand how awful anime currently is.
The point isn't that anime is good now. The point is that western shit is worse
It's not. Anime now is pretty much worthless.
western shit is not worse. anime is worse than dogshit. i don't care how pozzed hollywood is, and if you're the kind that thinks hollywood encompasses all of film you are lost anyway.
>i don't care how pozzed hollywood is
>I just mindlessly attack everything that isn't
OK troony
thats not the question genius
Anime was never good, you watch that shit with an iota of your brain turned on and it all falls apart at how absolutely moronic it is. From the dialogue, plots and characters the writing is tremendously trite and cliched. Evangelion, Bebop, Berserk and LotGH are literally YA novel tier. Cinema declined the hardest because it was a consistent rise in quality from the silents until New Hollywood in the 70s and then it all just went to shit with 80s blockbuster consoomer culture. The best films of the 80s were done by guys who've been honing their craft since the 40s/50s like Kubrick, Kurosawa and Bergman. Literature is probably in the saddest state.
Meh, nothing wrong with genre fiction. Old blockbusters were still entertaining.
>literally YA novel tier
Half of the movies in that image are exactly that.
Nope
You are objectively wrong.
what YA novels can you directly compare them too?
I don't read trash.
dont comment then dork
I will not engage you in discussing trash, it's not my area of expertise, that's you. But I will point at trash and call it trash.
so you are comparing all those movies to a genre you have no expierence with?
No, I simply call it like I see it, Trash King.
it is you who is the trash king if you hate all those films, objectively.
Look at this Onions Wars fan seriously trying to pretend like he's not a fricking manchild. Sit down, little guy.
How about you use actual critiques instead of making dumb comparisons.
>Literature is probably in the saddest state.
how so
It's a nightmare to get published, nobody reads anymore, and the quality of prose has nosedived.
>Anime was never good,
Cope
Music industry is thriving tbh
I wouldn't know, I can't afford a watercooled 12700K and 3080Ti to run the latest Call of Duty on min settings
You're better of without that shit, believe me.
who the frick would actually vote music quality has declined in quality the most?
people who assume radio=all music
Britney Spears fans.
Racists
The most no.
Declined a lot yes
Music is by far the cheapest to make so there will always be good music. It just won’t be popular and will be less original than the good music of the past.
>music
Wtf there is more and better music than ever.
Listen to something else than pop shit, broaden your horizons.
even pop music is good right now
>even pop music is good right now
Name one (1) song.
i like bugsnacks
Thank you, your opinion has been filed into the trash where it belongs.
Fair.
this. while spotify and other shit are insanely greedy israelites, its been easier than ever to make music. while yes, lady gaga and justin bieber and pop shit they play on KROCK radio stations is not good. you can still find really good shit for every kind of taste if you just look for it
Like what, b***h?
you WILL listen to ambient and you WILL enjoy it
https://forestmanagement.bandcamp.com/album/palm-life-2
The lesser known art from music, films, and videogames are as good as ever, what's declined is what's popular
>music, films, and videogames are as good as ever,
Lol ok
It's accurate about movies, but Anime should be second.
If I had to characterize any of the industries, at least on the mainstream, I would say that they are samey. Mainstream music is mumble Black person trap, mainstream movies is Marvel capeshit or films for Twitter lesbians, mainstream games is just open world or sports reskins, designed to suck your wallet dry or numb your brain from all the grinding and all popular anime is either brainless shounen or high school romance / slice of life. All these suck and have declined a lot, but all of these industries have still a lot of new good things to offer if you look at the indie market, or at least not on the ultra mainstream one.
It's music simply because it had farther to fall
If you are talking about industry as a whole, it's clearly movies, just because the mid budget movies where the studio rolls the dice, no longer exist. It's literally only direct to streaming garbage or disney/capeshit.
Music is as broad as ever and is only really garbage if you focus entirely on the primary cultural trend; which admittedly is trash but it has been for decades.
Video games are suffering from the same fate as movies but budget doesn't have anywhere near the effect that it does in regards to movies, individual talent still shines through.
I've never been a huge anime fan, never followed it outside of the entry level titles (Bebop, Berserk, Trigun, Cory in the House etc.) So I can't really speak to it's quality at all.
The only reason why Anime was voted the least is because Anime is so terrible already it doesn't have far to fall
Cope. Anime is great.
>t. 140 IQ 6'3 Dionysus chad
those genes wasted on a brain plagued by shit taste
true
The answer is anime + TV shows (excluding some miniseries). They are built around the flawed premise of an opening, boring shitty drama filler background noise, and then a cliffhanger finale in hopes they get renewed by a network/distributor.
Movies, music and Vidya don't really suffer this problem and still have an indie scene. If you watch anime beyond your teenage years or modern TV shows you are 80 IQ or enjoy eating shit.
> anime
>They are built around the flawed premise of an opening, boring shitty drama filler background noise, and then a cliffhanger finale in hopes they get renewed by a network/distributor.
This is absolutely not how the anime industry works.
imagine not being an mmo monogamer chad like me
you don't need many games when one game consumes all your time
i have not played another video game in over 3 years
what shitty mmo are u playing
3 years?
My guess would be WoW Classic.
rts is better
For the people denying music has declined, name one song released in the last 5 years that everybody knows and will be listened to in 20 years
Blinding Lights from the Weeknd maybe
Anime can not decline as it has always been bottom feeding shit.
You are all concerned about new media when you have an entire backlog of all existing media that came before it that is miles and leagues better, what gives? No one is forcing you to consume garbage, if it’s worth paying attention to now it will still be there for you in 5 years
>No one is forcing you to consume garbage,
IT'S LITERALLY BEING SHOVED DOWN MY THROAT
It's music.
It’s gotta be, rock is dead when the 2 most highly praised albums are Black Country new road and black midi. Fricking joke
Mainstream music is definitely shit and there are so many bands finding goes shit is hard, but what has died in the music industry is just the mainstream. Before you could go to what was being put on the radio to know the cream of the crop, but these days the new "hits" are all artificially propped up to the top, all stars are manufactured, nothing is organic, so what you get presented to you is souless crap even if good music is being made... its just hard to find.
>Before you could go to what was being put on the radio to know the cream of the crop,
this has never been true lol. the whole reason grunge happened was because a bunch of bands got ignored by radio, developed their own style in one place and were then discovered all at once.
the interesting things about the poll are:
>almost no one who responded watches anime, it may as well have not been an option
>respondants are clueless about how mainstream music used to be vs now or they'd be more upset about it
Hard decision.
With music it´s mostly the mainstream stuff that imploded. Niche is still good.
Movies have gone downhill a lot but at least they aren´t riddled with microtransactions and online shit.
Gaming is just dying a slow and agonizing death.
Anime peaked with Daily Life of Monster Girls back in 2015.
I don't watch any movies released after 1999. There is just absolutely nothing that gets me excited after that year.
I mostly just read now.
Film and music are tied for highest highs and lowest lows. Film is currently in one of its lowest lows, and getting worse by the day. Music is in a hard middle, no real telling which way it’s going. Video games peaked around the 00s and are worse now in a gutter with occasional shit covered diamonds in places most people will never look. Anime had a dramatic peak in the early 90s with nothing but trash before and after.
Cry Harder moroner.
I cry metal fragments at 2200 FPS.
See you downrange.
Watch out, we got a badass over here
Movies and tv are infested with woke shit now but there's still stuff that is entertaining and good. Top Gun and Better Call Saul just recently.
Video games FEEL like they've dropped off to me. It feels like things have stagnated since the PS3/360 generation with hardly any innovation. This could just be a case of me getting older and turning in to one of those boomers who only play stuff from their childhood though.
I don't know about anime because I don't watch it.
Music has to be the worst. Every single genre is in the shits right now. Country has turned in to late 00s pop with a fake accent. Pop has turned in to sheboon twerking to lyrics about gargling dicks. Rap music is horrible for like 30 different reasons. Rock/Metal is basically dead. You only get 1-2 albums a year to look forward to tops.
>. Top Gun and Better Call Saul just recently.
>rehash to dead ip #23651 and spin off #3465, surrounded by nothing but rehashes and spinoffs
Truly a golden age
Films are still good if you don't just watch blockbusters. The thing that's terrible is tv shows, just endless shit.
Video games had a golden age around 2011-2016 or so but for the most part is a shitty industry with not a lot to offer
Mainstream music has always been crap and full of one time wanders. There's still good music being made and most importantly, good bands still tour.
Anime has always been about finding the diamonds in the rough. It had its golden age of late 90s-mid 00s where it felt like there were more good/great anime /year but before that and since, most of what's made in a year sucks.
All industries have decline for a number of reasons.
>Video games golden age 2011-2016
saying things like this outs you as generation z
I'm likely older than you. Convince me otherwise. We got things like Bloodborne and Nier Automata around that time. You think the peak of video games is Metroid and Counter-Strike?
Definitely anime
Literally the opposite of what's happening in the west.
To be fair she was like 13-14 at the start of the show and several years passed in universe. so booba growth makes sense.
2-3 years, not several.