How would anyone prove it? Unless you have leaked emails or something all of this motive shit is "Yeah, I can imagine someone thinking that, seems plausible." We don't have mind-reading technology yet and people are free to assume the worst or the best.
It's not about racism. It's about writing. It's about original characters that fit the story. Not a single person has ever complained about any of pic related.
I think the trayvon Martin Spiderman is in poor taste.
Unironically the Spiderverse film is the best thing to happen to Miles Morales, because it made him his own character rather than "Peter Parker, but black".
A lot of people b***hed about Django Unchained, but true that no one b***hed about it for its acting or quality beyond hating the premise.
No, it's not true in the slightest. Diversity/black casting is pushed because the progressive creatives behind these products think reducing whiteness is a moral good. That's all it's about, anti whiteness.
This is accurate.
They have a moral view that whiteness when 'overconcentrated' is inherently harmful to society and those in it.
So anything that lessens whiteness and increases 'diversity' is inherently good and changes things for the better.
>not a single person has ever complained about any of pic related
Blacks hated Princess and the Frog and b***hed and moaned it wasn't their culture.
Plenty of people b***hed about Miles and still do.
Django was race bating
The other 3 were cast properly and didn't make a huge deal about them being black. Though Billy Dee got a bit of shit for selling Colt 45
it's simple, they know for a fact that race swapping generates controversy that translates to more attention and clicks, not only they get free publicity for their new shitty show but also get to push "the message" and on top of that get a shield that allows them to dismiss any criticism as racism.
You don't like the new product because the new world we made makes no fricking sense?
that must mean you LITERALLY want to bring slavery back and are a dirty racist, sexist, homophobic bigot etc. It's almost too good to be true
it's simple, they know for a fact that race swapping generates controversy that translates to more attention and clicks, not only they get free publicity for their new shitty show but also get to push "the message" and on top of that get a shield that allows them to dismiss any criticism as racism.
You don't like the new product because the new world we made makes no fricking sense?
that must mean you LITERALLY want to bring slavery back and are a dirty racist, sexist, homophobic bigot etc. It's almost too good to be true
And if enough people aren't being racist, they'll get people already on the payroll to do it for them.
I think that it's really because everybody in entertainment (and everywhere else, really) lives in a bubble, so they believe that they HAVE to shoe in as many black people into everything as possible, because it's "the right thing to do."
Fanbaiting isn't real. Corporations aren't intelligent enough to fanbait, they genuinely think that everyone else thinks like them and will love raceswapping White characters with Black actors.
No, it's not true in the slightest. Diversity/black casting is pushed because the progressive creatives behind these products think reducing whiteness is a moral good. That's all it's about, anti whiteness.
This. They choose people who are ideological into these positions. If ALL they cared about was maximal profit then statistically sometimes they'd hire a right-winger or someone totally apolitical to be a creator for these Hollywood productions. But they don't, they only hire ideological liberals.
Yes, media companies have been deliberately provoking internet racists since at least Ghostbusters/Captain Marvel to trigger hate campaigns which in turn make their dogshit movies/tv a social issue to support. It's extremely obvious and I can't believe Cinemaphile still falls for it every single time.
You act like A. Cinemaphile posts on twitter and/or that twitter even cares about what we say and B. they can't just pay people to false flag as racists on twitter. Every "racist" account I've ever seen on twitter is a name and several random numbers behind it.
It's obvious as frick what they're doing.
It's 100% true and one only needs to look at this shithole to confirm it.
I genuinely forgot they were even gonna make this movie at all and all of a sudden the ONLY thing I hear about it is gays here getting asspained about the Black person casting.
Literally not a fricking peep about it for what? Years? And then all of a sudden everything is discussing this new (THING)!!!!!!
And yet you drooling mongoloids fall for it hook line and sinker. Every. Single. Time.
No one gives a shit what people here say. No one pays attention to Cinemaphile. No amount of posting here will ever garner any attention from outside sites... except reddit.
But it does matter. The simple fact that this gay racebait shit is spammed here by seething gays, and therefore causing discussion about the movie inadvertently proves that the racebait strategy works.
FFS the board was unusable when the first ep of RoP came out, not to mention Black Panther
Cinemaphile is a containment echo chamber. None of it ever leaks outside of it so the only way you'd have to believe it affected anything was to believe that there are marketers here.
Even if not a single genuine poster reacted they would just astroturf it anyway
You don't even need real people anymore, just pass the solved captcha's to a GPT-3 bot farm, it's just about impossible to tell the difference
Go to Cinemaphile and just look and then ask yourself, if I was a corporation would I do this? Yeah you would so why wouldn't you assume they are doing it right now
>bait is real >outrage orchestrated by bots and Indians >real liberals/conservatives hop on because FOMO >triggers even more discussion and more real people to care
It’s a domino effect. A cacophony of lunacy.
>Is this even remotely true?
No. Obviously not. Antagonizing white people is not a good business model. These corporations are run unironically by people who hate us. If they were after money they would do it like in Top Gun, a diverse cast, but not anti-white.
No, it is a buzzword shite like "quiet quitting". Why controversy happens: >Some people online complain. >A tiny minority are extremists. >Actor, who is doing hundreds of interviews for marketing is asked about tiny minority. >Make some comments about it, only a tiny part of interview. >Interview is published, headline is of these comments. >People get angry, the whole machine starts working. >Loads more media groups spread the story of just the headline bits. >Social media bubble is filled just talking about those singular comments. >Anger causes clicks causing more clickbait. >Grifters and everyone else pile on in. >Creators, actors and other people in social media bubble see the controversy and think it is huge because it has been multiplied a thousand fold. >They comment more on it. >Which continues it. >Show is bland and fails, GO WOKE, GO BROKE. Show is bland and no one cares, apathetically burns out. Show keeps going, YOU LOST. >As to whether this publicity "helps" it is completely a roulette wheel and no media strategy could really navigate it. Some say this show isn't for you then weeks later begs you to watch.
Media is to blame.
Of course, it's not like marketers have morals. They will deny it and say they were only trying to celebrate diversity and inclusion by pushing the black cast to the front of marketing, but they know what they are doing. It's a win win for them right now.
Not really. He's making a number of assumptions to get to his point. He assumes Amazon is so desperate for advertising that the only way for them to even generate interest is to resort to some convoluted scheme, when the reality is Amazon has never needed to in the past and can pay out the ass for traditional forms of marketing. He then implies the one and only reason a studio would ever cast someone of color is if it were part of such a scheme, which in itself is pretty moronic. He assumes that somehow Amazon can predict the future and guarantees the outrage is going to take place. What if all the bigots simply ignored anything to do with the show and no outrage occurred? What then? How would he explain the lack of outrage for Wheel of Time despite the diversity casting? The way he put "pushback" in quotes also suggests he believes the outrage over the show's casting is fake, or exaggerated, even though it's everywhere. Worst of all, he seems to be condemning Amazon for something that he assumes they're doing, but doesn't condemn the actual hatred and bigotry, which is very telling.
If the simplest explanation tends to be the correct one, then the simple version of it is the production of Rings of Power hired minorities for the sake of hiring minorities in order to be more inclusive.
Disney has been doing this for the last 4-5 years >we'll make the fairy godmother a bald black troony, and use the media machine to paint the haters as bigots!
There is nothing new about it. When Griffith made the birth of a nation in 1915 and used white people painted with black shoe polish as black people there was a huge controversy. Back then there was no internet so people mobilized. There were protests as well as public debates and so on and so forth. He then capitalized on the controversy and scandal to promote his second film "Intolerance". It is a known fact that controversial issues sell. They knew it even then. American society has advanced very little (if at all) in these hundred years.
>uh, even though it's one of the single most popular franchises of all time we decided to make it bad on purpose so it would get more attention!
Not buying it.
moron, quality does not matter. views matter, twitter trends matter, word of mouth matters. outrage marketing is very cheap and very effective.
amazon aren't in the business of just making "good television", they tried that with patriot and nobody watched it. they are in the business of making money and showing their shareholders social media metrics and ratings
Because the media is literally run on outrage farming. The media doesn't care if a show succeeds or follows, it purposefully posts controversial things to rile people up.
Partially. Fink with his Blackrock&co. and Hollywood with their guidelines play bigger part, but outrage marketing definitely part of it. Nobody would care if they would make a movie with black actress playing mermaid as an alternative take on classic story, and such movie would be dead on arrival unless make with very low budget. But if you make a known and still beloved to this day character being a Black person in an adaptation of classic cartoon, this will sure to generate outrage and bring attention of MSM and people without you spending much on manufacturing said outrage.
I mean it's become pretty obvious that's what's going on. Disney is the worst offender by far. I genuinely believe that these corporations do not give a single shit about their actor's skin color, but are purposefully using black people (especially black women for the race/gender wombo combo) as marketing pawns. For the free publicity like in OP, but also as a get out of jail free card against criticism. It doesn't matter if you present a well thought out or fair criticism , they can just label you a racist or sexist and invalidate your opinion to the normie crowd.
No shit. It's incredible how many people spazzed out over this when it was motivated solely by money the entire time. If society wasn't getting more liberal and tolerant you bet your ass the media would pander to the other side instead.
It's the old saying that any press is good press I guess?
Imagine if they spent all this effort on research and whatnot into making something good and it making money on its own merit.
lotta librals watch shit just to own the righties
Gilette
Ghostbusters
How would anyone prove it? Unless you have leaked emails or something all of this motive shit is "Yeah, I can imagine someone thinking that, seems plausible." We don't have mind-reading technology yet and people are free to assume the worst or the best.
You can't prove it without being called a bigot which is exactly what they want.
>how would you prove it
basic pattern recognition. anyone that hasnt suffered a coma for the past 5 years can see this pattern
ok and why can corporations bank on black casts being harassed?
because they know that most people are racist af
And yet, social media bans people for racism, so where's all this racism coming from?
Every country outside of America and Western Europe, where racism is accepted as a natural aspect of the human condition
No they don't lmao, follow some Republicans on twitter. They post some vile ass shit
Okay post some examples, should be easy if you're telling the truth
It's not about racism. It's about writing. It's about original characters that fit the story. Not a single person has ever complained about any of pic related.
I think the trayvon Martin Spiderman is in poor taste.
Only thing in poor taste about him is that his dad is named after the President of the Confederate States of America
He'd have to be 6 feet tall and built like a linebacker to be Trayvon
Unironically the Spiderverse film is the best thing to happen to Miles Morales, because it made him his own character rather than "Peter Parker, but black".
A lot of people b***hed about Django Unchained, but true that no one b***hed about it for its acting or quality beyond hating the premise.
This is accurate.
They have a moral view that whiteness when 'overconcentrated' is inherently harmful to society and those in it.
So anything that lessens whiteness and increases 'diversity' is inherently good and changes things for the better.
>not a single person has ever complained about any of pic related
Blacks hated Princess and the Frog and b***hed and moaned it wasn't their culture.
Plenty of people b***hed about Miles and still do.
Django was race bating
The other 3 were cast properly and didn't make a huge deal about them being black. Though Billy Dee got a bit of shit for selling Colt 45
tf are you on about, blacks love Princess and the frog and come on, ITSV is universally considered one of the best spiderman movies
>blacks love Princess and the frog
when it came out they were unironically b***hing that the girl had a job and saying it was a dog whistle
Yeah because literally no one besides white libtards like black people.
literally no one likes them dude. not even their own people. my shniggy fricking ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE considers them a plague
Yes, it's true. They've stopped showing the niggress in ads now that nobody is talking about her anymore.
it's simple, they know for a fact that race swapping generates controversy that translates to more attention and clicks, not only they get free publicity for their new shitty show but also get to push "the message" and on top of that get a shield that allows them to dismiss any criticism as racism.
You don't like the new product because the new world we made makes no fricking sense?
that must mean you LITERALLY want to bring slavery back and are a dirty racist, sexist, homophobic bigot etc. It's almost too good to be true
Somewhere in all of this they STILL forgot to write a good show
That was never their intent.
And if enough people aren't being racist, they'll get people already on the payroll to do it for them.
I mean, probably. It can be true without it being the intent.
I think that it's really because everybody in entertainment (and everywhere else, really) lives in a bubble, so they believe that they HAVE to shoe in as many black people into everything as possible, because it's "the right thing to do."
All these big twitter "fan baiting explanations" boil down to "black people are the victims." It's shit. Ignore them.
Fanbaiting isn't real. Corporations aren't intelligent enough to fanbait, they genuinely think that everyone else thinks like them and will love raceswapping White characters with Black actors.
Corporations can't be dumb and also be these massively successful controllers of society.
I only watch it for morf, she's lovely.
i bet you donate to twitch streamers too, loser
>its bad on purpouse
wow it surely subverted me
It's called the "seething incel bump"
No, it's not true in the slightest. Diversity/black casting is pushed because the progressive creatives behind these products think reducing whiteness is a moral good. That's all it's about, anti whiteness.
This. They choose people who are ideological into these positions. If ALL they cared about was maximal profit then statistically sometimes they'd hire a right-winger or someone totally apolitical to be a creator for these Hollywood productions. But they don't, they only hire ideological liberals.
yes hate = money
that twitter account? he's a captain of industry and his dad works for nintendo
Yes, media companies have been deliberately provoking internet racists since at least Ghostbusters/Captain Marvel to trigger hate campaigns which in turn make their dogshit movies/tv a social issue to support. It's extremely obvious and I can't believe Cinemaphile still falls for it every single time.
You act like A. Cinemaphile posts on twitter and/or that twitter even cares about what we say and B. they can't just pay people to false flag as racists on twitter. Every "racist" account I've ever seen on twitter is a name and several random numbers behind it.
It's obvious as frick what they're doing.
It's 100% true and one only needs to look at this shithole to confirm it.
I genuinely forgot they were even gonna make this movie at all and all of a sudden the ONLY thing I hear about it is gays here getting asspained about the Black person casting.
Literally not a fricking peep about it for what? Years? And then all of a sudden everything is discussing this new (THING)!!!!!!
And yet you drooling mongoloids fall for it hook line and sinker. Every. Single. Time.
you mean like how you're posting now, dumbass?
>durrrr
I'm responding to OP and lamenting the utter moronation of the board
An yet you participate in it, curious.
you should be lamenting your own utter moronation lmao got em
No one gives a shit what people here say. No one pays attention to Cinemaphile. No amount of posting here will ever garner any attention from outside sites... except reddit.
But it does matter. The simple fact that this gay racebait shit is spammed here by seething gays, and therefore causing discussion about the movie inadvertently proves that the racebait strategy works.
FFS the board was unusable when the first ep of RoP came out, not to mention Black Panther
Cinemaphile is a containment echo chamber. None of it ever leaks outside of it so the only way you'd have to believe it affected anything was to believe that there are marketers here.
nah Cinemaphile culture leaks immediately out into reddit and then onto twitter, instagram youtube etc.
Cinemaphile is such a containment echo chamber that dorky kids that pathologically fear the site still call things 'based' and 'cringe'.
Even if not a single genuine poster reacted they would just astroturf it anyway
You don't even need real people anymore, just pass the solved captcha's to a GPT-3 bot farm, it's just about impossible to tell the difference
Go to Cinemaphile and just look and then ask yourself, if I was a corporation would I do this? Yeah you would so why wouldn't you assume they are doing it right now
even on the Reddit front page there is always at least one little mermaid thread at all times, it's so obvious
They don't even show the "racist" comments, just people owning le hecking racisterinos
This.
The bombshell of all bombshells.
>bait is real
>outrage orchestrated by bots and Indians
>real liberals/conservatives hop on because FOMO
>triggers even more discussion and more real people to care
It’s a domino effect. A cacophony of lunacy.
>Is this even remotely true?
No. Obviously not. Antagonizing white people is not a good business model. These corporations are run unironically by people who hate us. If they were after money they would do it like in Top Gun, a diverse cast, but not anti-white.
if so, Cinemaphile is the greatest marketing stooge on the internet
show me the numbers until then this is just some 4D chess shit where the answer conveniently means "shut up about our blackstaining"
yeah okay, but why not just make a good product instead?
No, it is a buzzword shite like "quiet quitting". Why controversy happens:
>Some people online complain.
>A tiny minority are extremists.
>Actor, who is doing hundreds of interviews for marketing is asked about tiny minority.
>Make some comments about it, only a tiny part of interview.
>Interview is published, headline is of these comments.
>People get angry, the whole machine starts working.
>Loads more media groups spread the story of just the headline bits.
>Social media bubble is filled just talking about those singular comments.
>Anger causes clicks causing more clickbait.
>Grifters and everyone else pile on in.
>Creators, actors and other people in social media bubble see the controversy and think it is huge because it has been multiplied a thousand fold.
>They comment more on it.
>Which continues it.
>Show is bland and fails, GO WOKE, GO BROKE. Show is bland and no one cares, apathetically burns out. Show keeps going, YOU LOST.
>As to whether this publicity "helps" it is completely a roulette wheel and no media strategy could really navigate it. Some say this show isn't for you then weeks later begs you to watch.
Media is to blame.
Of course, it's not like marketers have morals. They will deny it and say they were only trying to celebrate diversity and inclusion by pushing the black cast to the front of marketing, but they know what they are doing. It's a win win for them right now.
Controversy in your movie is basically free advertising. All the nerds get upset, and then everyone watches it to see what the fuss was about.
Go woke, go... get thousands of terminally online chuds to publicise and drive up engagement for your show for free
Not really. He's making a number of assumptions to get to his point. He assumes Amazon is so desperate for advertising that the only way for them to even generate interest is to resort to some convoluted scheme, when the reality is Amazon has never needed to in the past and can pay out the ass for traditional forms of marketing. He then implies the one and only reason a studio would ever cast someone of color is if it were part of such a scheme, which in itself is pretty moronic. He assumes that somehow Amazon can predict the future and guarantees the outrage is going to take place. What if all the bigots simply ignored anything to do with the show and no outrage occurred? What then? How would he explain the lack of outrage for Wheel of Time despite the diversity casting? The way he put "pushback" in quotes also suggests he believes the outrage over the show's casting is fake, or exaggerated, even though it's everywhere. Worst of all, he seems to be condemning Amazon for something that he assumes they're doing, but doesn't condemn the actual hatred and bigotry, which is very telling.
If the simplest explanation tends to be the correct one, then the simple version of it is the production of Rings of Power hired minorities for the sake of hiring minorities in order to be more inclusive.
Disney has been doing this for the last 4-5 years
>we'll make the fairy godmother a bald black troony, and use the media machine to paint the haters as bigots!
There is nothing new about it. When Griffith made the birth of a nation in 1915 and used white people painted with black shoe polish as black people there was a huge controversy. Back then there was no internet so people mobilized. There were protests as well as public debates and so on and so forth. He then capitalized on the controversy and scandal to promote his second film "Intolerance". It is a known fact that controversial issues sell. They knew it even then. American society has advanced very little (if at all) in these hundred years.
>uh, even though it's one of the single most popular franchises of all time we decided to make it bad on purpose so it would get more attention!
Not buying it.
moron, quality does not matter. views matter, twitter trends matter, word of mouth matters. outrage marketing is very cheap and very effective.
amazon aren't in the business of just making "good television", they tried that with patriot and nobody watched it. they are in the business of making money and showing their shareholders social media metrics and ratings
The problem is that these projects tend to fail and are universally hated.
if it didn't work, then why would they ALL keep doing it?
Because the media is literally run on outrage farming. The media doesn't care if a show succeeds or follows, it purposefully posts controversial things to rile people up.
Partially. Fink with his Blackrock&co. and Hollywood with their guidelines play bigger part, but outrage marketing definitely part of it. Nobody would care if they would make a movie with black actress playing mermaid as an alternative take on classic story, and such movie would be dead on arrival unless make with very low budget. But if you make a known and still beloved to this day character being a Black person in an adaptation of classic cartoon, this will sure to generate outrage and bring attention of MSM and people without you spending much on manufacturing said outrage.
I don't believe the whole white genocide angle but I have to admit that stuff about Larry Fink is at least intriguing.
>bigots
opinion discarded
sony was deleting positive comments on the ghostbusters youtube trailer
I mean it's become pretty obvious that's what's going on. Disney is the worst offender by far. I genuinely believe that these corporations do not give a single shit about their actor's skin color, but are purposefully using black people (especially black women for the race/gender wombo combo) as marketing pawns. For the free publicity like in OP, but also as a get out of jail free card against criticism. It doesn't matter if you present a well thought out or fair criticism , they can just label you a racist or sexist and invalidate your opinion to the normie crowd.
No shit. It's incredible how many people spazzed out over this when it was motivated solely by money the entire time. If society wasn't getting more liberal and tolerant you bet your ass the media would pander to the other side instead.
>"it's the new business model"
Of what, getting ridiculed and losing money? Good job then