this was the most memorable movie watching experience i've had in a theater. i was just the right age at the right time.
lots of dumb plotholes and flawed satire, but the style and gonzo energy makes up for it.
cause it'd absolutely resonate with it's aesthetic tragi-sleeze romance aesthetic and they'll turn into the next trailer goth joker/harliequin trend, it'd be awful
Young me loved it and considered it a masterpiece
Old me would probably wince at the tryhard nature of it all
But the acting, cinematography, and music are all really good
When it came out me and my high school girlfriend at the time couldn't stop "literally us"-ing over this movie. I can't imagine how fricking gay we looked and I'm thankful everyday that cell phones were still rare back then so there's no documentation of us acting that way. There are probably some super cringe AIM chat logs on a server somewhere between us that I hope are locked away like Indiana Jones treasure.
i played hell finding Ghost Town from The Specials
theres only like a 5 second cut of it in the movie, but it always stuck with me
was so happy to find it one day
yeah, that's a great track and the band has a lot of good songs, my other fav being Friday night Saturday Morning..
for me the last mystery track is the one that plays after Owen rescues them from the shoot-out blockade and they are walking in the tunnel, though my best guess is it's a track specially commissioned for the movie by Tomandandy.
Reminds me a little bit of Timesteps by Wendy Carlos from A Clockwork Orange.
pretty much, but most of the gimmicks or original flashes of brilliance are in the first 20 minutes. Then it keeps the hyperkinetic editing and the switches between film formats.
The second half is more straightforward stylistically than the first half.
The movie basically goes through three cinematic styles where the first one is more slapstick and ridiculous then it becomes more nightmarish and by the end it becomes phantasmagoria with eisenstein editing
Parts of the prison revolution scene are deliberately ripped from Oktober iirc
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not sure if it was October but I watched some old russian silent kino and some shots did give me that NBK aesthetic vibe. Not sure if it's fair to say it's a rip-off though.
Orson Welles's The Other Side Of The Wind deserves the credit to break the multi-film-format smorgasboard editing in the 70's, but that movie really is unwatchable for me.
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Unironically in terms of the "mulitple medium" style of filmmaking I like Film Socialisme because of the different kinds of cameras they used for the different archetype/storylines they were going for
Going from top of the line 2K HD to like literal 2000s cellphone cameras to jumpscare the audience
Not to mention all the edited image interlay stuff he does in the last third
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I'll try giving Film Socialisme a watch but I've been filtered by most of the post-60's stuff of his I've seen (i did moderately enjoy his early 80's stuff).
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not sure if it was October but I watched some old russian silent kino and some shots did give me that NBK aesthetic vibe. Not sure if it's fair to say it's a rip-off though.
Orson Welles's The Other Side Of The Wind deserves the credit to break the multi-film-format smorgasboard editing in the 70's, but that movie really is unwatchable for me.
I was actually thinking of Mother (1926) which has a prison riot scene.
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I haven't seen October, but a lot of random shots with dutch angles in Dovshenko's movie reminded of NBK even if the content was different..
I love this movie
It's an excellent satire of the 20th century escalating and normalizing violence and scandal to a boiling point in the 90s
His interview triggering the interviewer when he implies that under certain conditions he too could be a murder is also really good
Excellent cinematography and soundtrack choice and the only good American Buddhist film
It's a timeloop but there's no real realms of physicality or emotional trauma and ego death like what buddhist ascension requires
He's still pretty much the same person at the end just that he has pussy
I like the point they made about the media making them out to be heroes (un)intentionally. It is true that making big media events out of mass shootings does encourage more shooters
No, but also yes
Maybe, also I don't know.
this was the most memorable movie watching experience i've had in a theater. i was just the right age at the right time.
lots of dumb plotholes and flawed satire, but the style and gonzo energy makes up for it.
No it’s great
Salutations and happy new year to "Stone ripped off Lynch" guy and "NBK is responsible for multiple copycat murders" guy
>Stone ripped off Lynch" guy
Never understood that guy. Wild at Heart is nothing like NBK Except for driving a convertible?
You could say Lynch ripped off Stone because after producing the soundtrack for this film Lynch got him to do the same thing for LOST HIGHWAY.
good point
Not Wild At Heart, Stone's miniseries Wild Palms which was a ripoff of Twin Peaks.
i think it does a good job of sexualizing sociopaths
they are so in right now
It's worth a one time watch for le edgy shock value
I like how Agoraphobic Nosebleed samples it in their one album though.
No it's dumb as frick
No but you should watch it.
gen xers frozen in time will say yes
but it's not
No we won’t frick you.
please don't tell tik tok about this one I beg of you
Why?
cause it'd absolutely resonate with it's aesthetic tragi-sleeze romance aesthetic and they'll turn into the next trailer goth joker/harliequin trend, it'd be awful
Oliver Stone is getting soft-memoryholed now so you probably don't have to worry about his stuff getting a revival with younger generations.
Young me loved it and considered it a masterpiece
Old me would probably wince at the tryhard nature of it all
But the acting, cinematography, and music are all really good
It's reddit: the movie
Interesting take, anon. Please elaborate.
When it came out me and my high school girlfriend at the time couldn't stop "literally us"-ing over this movie. I can't imagine how fricking gay we looked and I'm thankful everyday that cell phones were still rare back then so there's no documentation of us acting that way. There are probably some super cringe AIM chat logs on a server somewhere between us that I hope are locked away like Indiana Jones treasure.
>literally us
can hear this image
I bought the CD as a kid and played the absolute shit out of it
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yeah same. I was obsessed with tracking down all the tracks from the movie soundtrack not on the CD for a while.
i played hell finding Ghost Town from The Specials
theres only like a 5 second cut of it in the movie, but it always stuck with me
was so happy to find it one day
yeah, that's a great track and the band has a lot of good songs, my other fav being Friday night Saturday Morning..
for me the last mystery track is the one that plays after Owen rescues them from the shoot-out blockade and they are walking in the tunnel, though my best guess is it's a track specially commissioned for the movie by Tomandandy.
Reminds me a little bit of Timesteps by Wendy Carlos from A Clockwork Orange.
the soundtrack was on point, they even put in some weird muslim music that I looked up later because it was so interesting
>my dad walking in on me jamming this on my boombox full blast
good times
did you guys ever even do any crime
We regularly ditched school, got drunk, smoked weed and had sex.
Is the entire movie stylized like in the beginning?
pretty much, but most of the gimmicks or original flashes of brilliance are in the first 20 minutes. Then it keeps the hyperkinetic editing and the switches between film formats.
The second half is more straightforward stylistically than the first half.
Holy shit, I don't think I can watch an entire movie like that.
The movie basically goes through three cinematic styles where the first one is more slapstick and ridiculous then it becomes more nightmarish and by the end it becomes phantasmagoria with eisenstein editing
good breakdown
Parts of the prison revolution scene are deliberately ripped from Oktober iirc
not sure if it was October but I watched some old russian silent kino and some shots did give me that NBK aesthetic vibe. Not sure if it's fair to say it's a rip-off though.
Orson Welles's The Other Side Of The Wind deserves the credit to break the multi-film-format smorgasboard editing in the 70's, but that movie really is unwatchable for me.
Unironically in terms of the "mulitple medium" style of filmmaking I like Film Socialisme because of the different kinds of cameras they used for the different archetype/storylines they were going for
Going from top of the line 2K HD to like literal 2000s cellphone cameras to jumpscare the audience
Not to mention all the edited image interlay stuff he does in the last third
I'll try giving Film Socialisme a watch but I've been filtered by most of the post-60's stuff of his I've seen (i did moderately enjoy his early 80's stuff).
I was actually thinking of Mother (1926) which has a prison riot scene.
?t=4524
I haven't seen October, but a lot of random shots with dutch angles in Dovshenko's movie reminded of NBK even if the content was different..
Yes and kino.
I love this movie
It's an excellent satire of the 20th century escalating and normalizing violence and scandal to a boiling point in the 90s
His interview triggering the interviewer when he implies that under certain conditions he too could be a murder is also really good
Excellent cinematography and soundtrack choice and the only good American Buddhist film
>the only good American Buddhist film
It's a timeloop but there's no real realms of physicality or emotional trauma and ego death like what buddhist ascension requires
He's still pretty much the same person at the end just that he has pussy
it was amazing, but maybe I only liked it because I'm a schizo. I haven't seen an Oliver Stone movie I didn't like.
I like the point they made about the media making them out to be heroes (un)intentionally. It is true that making big media events out of mass shootings does encourage more shooters
I loved it when I was a teenager. Not sure if it still holds up.
I remember it had a great soundtrack.
Kind of overrated imo
Overrated in what way? It was always an ultra-polarizing film and it only gets a fraction of the attention of the other 90's Tarantino movies.
the columbine shooters named their massacre after the movie so its obviously good. that and its also just a great film