Is this really a good use of Supermans time? Seems like there would be far more important places to be
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Is this really a good use of Supermans time? Seems like there would be far more important places to be
Clark is not God.
He has his own life to live.
Superman helps when he can.
>Clark is not God.
Of course not. He's Jesus.
Arians get out of my board
>Jesus comparison
We get it, Zack. You are so deep and insightful.
He's a Moses you single-celled, smoothed-brained Prokaryote
>"He's like Jesus guys"
>Literally made by israelites
Are you moronic?
More like Moses meant to lead his people to the promised land.
This argument is meaningless hairsplitting
During the second temple period. Second temple Judaism was its own religion, and out of it grew modern Judaism and Christianity
What difference does that make?
Yes they do, but how is this relevant in this argument?
>What difference does that make?
Yes they do, but how is this relevant in this argument?
Super man will always will be more of Moses and Samson figure then Jesus. Super mans Origin is Moses but sci-fi and without God.
Except he literally has nothing to do with Moses or Samson. He’s based on John Carter and Hugo Danner
Source?
>Except he literally has nothing to do with Moses or Samson
We all know that; we are just saying when you look into Clark's story and Moses' story you'll see similarities, unlike Jesus'.
Jesus was also israeli, moron
>Jews
>have never heard of Jesus
LoL.
Anons you guys do realize that israelites hate Jesus and view him as a false prophet and not the son of god right?
Jesus Christ is God
Moses prefigures Christ, as do most Old Testament figures. Or if you don’t believe the gospel story, you might say Christ’s story was influenced by the life of Moses. Either way, there are clear parallels between both
Superman has been in the hands of millions of writers in countless variations over the years, and a lot of them play up parallels to Jesus Christ in Superman’s story. Saying “Superman isn’t like Jesus Christ because he was created by israelites” is meaningless. That’s not how you analyze media. Zach Snyder isn’t Siegel or Schuster, but he made a Superman movie
Incidentally, Siegel and Schuster have stated that the Moses story didn’t influence them, and their biggest influence was John Carter Of Mars and the novel Gladiator by Philip Wylie.
>Clark is not God.
Supergays sure do like to act like it.
Point out that he is stronger than Goku
Stronger than Saitama
Stronger than Madocka
Stronger than Naruto
Stronger than Jojo
Stronger than Shinji’s gay robots, Ash’s gay Pokémon creatures, Yugioh’s gay cards
Stronger than the strongest anime characters ever
Stronger than Goku
And yet for some reason they still can't make a single good movie with him as the main character. Can't possibly imagine why. It's almost like nobody wants to read a story about someone with no flaws physically or mentally beating the villain with zero effort and zero conflict.
Good live action Superman movies:
>Superman And The Mole Men
>Superman
>Superman II
Good live action anime movies:
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>Point out that he is stronger than Goku
>Stronger than Goku
Literally rent free.
Superman as God is a dull idea.
Funny you mention that because this whole book is about precisely how Superman gradually sheds his own life(Clark) to be the literal All Star Superman.
What worked about the book is the Silver Age stuff that was all captured non-ironically and taken seriously.
What didn't work was the characterization, where Morrison almost always fails.
Of course saving someone and giving them hope is a good use of Superman's time. There's other places he could be, but they're all equally important.
>Saving the suicidal emo is just as important as saving the life of someone who actually contributes to society
>Saving the suicidal emo is just as important as saving the life of someone who actually contributes to society
It's just as important to Superman, and that's all that matters.
>my moral judgment supersedes the well being of another human being
That’s why Clark’s the hero and you’re not
Bet that's what the suicidal kid thought too.
wow
You are missing the point if you think like this
An innocent woman was getting gangraped in some Muslim shithole at the same time.
Stop making shit up.
Probably not . Superman has crime so under control that he spends most of time
Pulling complex pranks on his friends to teach them a lesson
>*Invents headcanon to justify being mad*
Many such cases
You really think that nothing worst than one girl commiting suicide was happening in the entire world at that time?
If the writer doesn't acknowledge it then yes
Look up "artistic license"
How is that any more important than someone else's life?
A suicidal person is choosing to end her life, while victims of violence are being brutalized while he gives advice to a person that will neckherself in a few months anyway. Morally, superman should always stop murderers over rapists and rapists over robbers, the latest earthquake in Peru is more important than a Black person raping a young woman in metropolis. Either the reality is the only evil happening is the one that the hero is fighting against then morality questions are irrelevant, this take is the correct one, is capeshit for children, it doesn't need scrutinity, if you ask a question then you have to work around a framework, can he save everyone? if the answer is no then you need to as if all life sacred to him? we know that it is, so the only realistic behaviour for superman would be to play a numbers game, this isn't a kill one to save one million, is a save one million before you save one. Any other take is autistic and childish, no, he doesn't need to eat ice cream with his gay son or go on dates so he doesn't go crazy, he doesn't need to rest he does those things because non stop action is shitty writing.
Yes. And that means you don't need to defend superman hugging kids or saving cats.
Rape is a social construct.
No need to share your fetishes anon.
So you're suggesting that he let an innocent person die? That he be everywhere at once? That a mundane gangerape wouldn't and can't be prevented or stopped by any other closer or local super?
Can you not fathom a superhero world being different from ours? Can you not understand that they'd face different difficulties after decades of heroic presence? Or that the mere presence of Superman on the planet would put the fear of God in such weak men?
Are you suggesting the the Legion of Doom has decided to spend incalculable resources and power raping one woman in some shithole, such that only Superman can stop them?
You're not just cripplingly cynical, you're also dramatically stupid.
The lastest Superman run with Jon is literally about how Superman hasn’t actually done anything for real progress and the world still sucks. So yeah, he should do a better job
You mean the run that concerned itself with showing how gay and progressive Jon is with the inevitablility that it would show the older generation and their traditions as useless and wrong?
Did you write the fricking story? What place do you have to make this "critique"?
I guess no one is allowed to criticize anything.
>I guess no one is allowed to criticize anything.
Yes.
We get it, you're a whiny little b***h. You made that abundantly clear in your first post
Did you write that post? What place do you have to criticize it?
>superman shouldn't be saving someone's life
Saving anybody is a waste of Supermans time. He should devote himself to turning a massive handcrank, producing vast amounts of free, clean electricity for the people of earth.
The fact you have to ask this proves you don't understand superman, any good deed is a good use of his time, that's his whole philosophy
>notices someone in trouble when no one else does
>cares so much that he knows her situation, name, and what thoughts are driving her to suicide
>gets to her in time using his powers
>saves her life with warmth, strength, and reassurance
I'd tell you to have a nice day but Superman would do everything he can to save you too.
>Your doctor really did get held up again
How would he know that?
Speaking of Superman's time do you ever think he's in a meeting at the daily planet and hears a rape happening miles away but chooses not to do anything about it because Perry White will get pissed at him if he misses anymore daily standups?
earlier in the comic, he noticed her doctor on the phone to her
After the year he'd just had, he needed the downtime.
>Regular Flash is super fast and arrives late
>Bizarro Flash is super slow and arrives just in time
That was clever
No it’s not
Nope. That's the ultimate tragedy of a hero who can save anyone, but can't save everyone. Every time Superman attends some kid's birthday party he's making the conscious choice to ignore some building fire on the other side of the world. Every 6 seconds a child dies of a preventable illness somewhere, if he spends an hour in his Clark Kent persona instead of using superspeed to deliver medical supplies or move people to hospitals then he's making the choice to condemn hundreds to die.
If that's true, then what are you doing posting on Cinemaphile when you could be taking a fist aid course or volunteering at a food bank?
Someone post the comic where Superman just spins a dynamo for unlimited energy please.
Totally tangential, but I recall a superman short story being posted here.
It was showing shots of superman saving people, preventing tragedies etc.
The whole time the comics listing off names and ages, faster and faster as the feats pile up.
At the end of the day it shows superman sitting in front of a screen in the fortress with a long list of names.
He breaks down crying. Its a list of about two million dead people, those he wasn't able to save that day.
Superman's more than just a high bar on a made-up power scale.
Superman saves anyone he can.
Also it's not like he's the only superhero. I'm sure even Krypto gets some saving done in the city
>Is this really a good use of Supermans time?
no who cares about some edgy teenage hole
>Is this really a good use of Supermans time?
No problem is too small for Superman
>Be me, punk girl
>Get sad
>Go for a walk on the roof that's bound to cheer me up
>Superman sneaks up on me trying to startle me and get me to fall
Superman is a jerk.
The alternative is being like Sentry and having a computer to figure out the best use of his time. Also ffs Superman, women don't ever kill themselves it's just attention seeking behaviour, don't validate it by giving them attention. Okay actually thinking about it the best alternative to this "suicide" is the Konrad Curze solution.
Compassion is always important
It's a nice moment, but I prefer the JSA version that came out a few months earlier (cover date Dec 2007 vs May 2008).
that may only be because I'm biased towards Kingdom Come Superman
Pretty shitty.
This take is right but only in the context of morons asking why batman doesn't kill the joker. OP question is valid.
No, realistically it isn't, but is a capeshit comic, it serves a narrative and showcase an idea the writer wants to put in, there are no more important places because the world is frozen, nothing happens away from the focus of out eyes.
t. brainlet
> it serves a narrative and showcase an idea the writer wants to put in, there are no more important places because the world is frozen, nothing happens away from the focus of out eyes.
....you mean like how every story works?
brainlet take
Everything is less good in this version than the one in the OP.
Why are people have such a problem of Superman helping the little guy out?
Realismgays who only care about feeling like the smartest person in the room tend to ignore the fact that a story should have good, relatable morals
>Bro it’s so relatable how he could be stopping genocide and child rape but instead decides to stop an emo from killing themselves, everyone should see how morally right he is for letting genocide and child rape happen while he comforts the emo who will just end up killing themselves next week when something bad happens
Author didn't mention any genocides happening in the context of his story, therefore it is unreasonable to bring up genocides
You don't understand storytelling
its weird how some people think that you can actually completely stop all the child rape and mass murder any more than you can stop suicide.
no you're right, if he stops for an emo girl then he'll always be late to every other crime forever, where as if he DOESNT stop he can actually get rid of all the crime forever right now.
i think the question for someone as all powerful as superman being "how should he use his time" is a complete misunderstanding of what life is from his perspective.
he is, in a way, immortal.
he will outlive everyone he saves and he cant realistically completely stop crime without becoming a tyrant. superman is about as close to the perspective of god as any carbon based life can get which is why superman kind of sucks as a character.
I can imagine Lex using this scene to mock clark.
"In the two minutes you spent to talk that little girl off the ledge. There was a fire in belise where forty people died you could have saved. A meltdown at a nuclear plant in central city where one hundred people died. A mining accident in venezuala where three hundred people died. But by all means superman. Focus on the mental case who's probably due for an early grave anyways."
Read that in Clancy Brown's voice.
He stopped on his way there, it literally took him a few second and a couple minutes at most.
Today is DC's time in Fortnite so I guess getting dubs is more important lol
>you're much stronger than you think you are
Why is suicide so romanticized? She's not strong. That's why she's killing herself.
For physical deformities, there's miscarriage. For mental deformities, there's suicidal depression. Its nature's way of filtering them out.
Helping someone who genuinely needs it is never a waste of time.
>someone getting this butthurt about superman saving someone
what is garth doing on Cinemaphile, frick off you lumpy headed potato fricker
>Garth Ennis
Not him, he actually likes Superman.
You might be thinking of Frank Miller. The only writer I know with any beef with Supes.