The last time they were in dire straits they still had an actual Disney at the company who ran the Save Disney campaign and oversaw their animation department.
Roy's lone gone. There aren't any Disneys there anymore.
That market cap has reduced by 100% in the last 18 months. They had $47 billion in debt in July and their Hulu sale went through for like $9 billion a few weeks ago.
They cannot afford to have years like 2023 forever. Things need to change and soon. This year has shown they're not too big to fail.
lmao they've lost an accumulated $123B+ in the last few years alone. That market cap is fricking gone. Peltz I'd about curbstomp Iger into the fricking Earth.
That's just tied up assets and workforce draining the liquid capital. Nobody is going to buy your vault of shitty licenses at asking price. That "multi-billion studio" is just a concrete slab with drapes and a camera. All those diversity hires expect to be paid for their manhatten flats and avocado toast addictions every month while producing only lawsuits aimed at the few remaining wageslaves that haven't figured out that the system is rigged beyond repair.
A media companie's worth is measured entirely in how many lies they can sell in the future.
Disney *should* be a trillion dollar company like Apple and Tesla purely because of their cultural significance and impact on the past century.
Their current value shows how incredibly badly mismanaged they are in relation to their potential worth and isn't a good sign for the future of the company.
Reminder that neither this nor ANY company going under is because of "wokeness" (whatever that even means). Its a mix of lingering covid/Trump effects in addition to a changing technological landscape. Specifically for Disney its the streaming along with younger generations shifting towards social media and videogames (both MUCH more "woke" than disney).
If anything the "wokeness" is the lifesupport keeping Disney alive. Ironically, the company would last a little longer if they actually committed to supporting progressive causes not just the occassional veiled lip service. Consumers want to know the company they're giving money to supports good causes (which as far as I can tell is what conservatives mean when they say "woke")
I know you're baiting but it's amazing to me this is the sort of mental gymnastics liberals are actually able to perform, especially their amazing capacity for blaming current problems on previous government
You can make these posts faster with chatgpt. At least run your post through it to make it more believable. Trolling is an art form lost on your homosexual generation.
>Consumers want to know the company they're giving money to supports good causes
I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly don't want companies supporting good causes. If a company supports good causes, what that means is that they're charging more for their product than they need to, and are passing on the cost of their philanthropy to me.
I will always prefer the products of an ideologically neutral or expressly evil company over a company dedicated to doing good, because I know that I'll get more product for my money.
disney is one of those companies that is just too big to fail
if shit gets bad they'll just layoff a bunch of staff again to balance the scales, which won't hurt them so bad since every company is laying off their staff these days
Remember when Sony was struggling with Spiderman and had to lean on the MCU to pull the character out of a dive, now its Marvel desperately depending on Spiderman movies to improve their abysmal sales.
Marvel has no need of Spider-Man to ""save"" the MCU, the problem is that they don't want to. Punisher, Ghost Rider, Wolverine, Daredevil and Hulk are ips that, done right, can make money.
>Ran Star Wars into the ground in just 3 years >MCU has been flopping since COVID >Tried going full woke and now has to do a 180 after realizing that shit doesn't sell >Pixar is far past its peak and now just makes forgettable shit
They should just ditch capeshit at this point and try experimenting with original ideas. They managed to do this well in the 2000s
The Pixar situation is what surprises me the most.
I remember when I was a kid and every Pixar movie was 10/10, then the whole studio just died with Toy Story 3 (I consider it an uninspired movie).
The studio should full independent. Just let the brand around for the clout.
Pixar stopped being perfect after the first Cars movie, albeit the studio was always overrated tbh. It took Cars 2 to expose how mediocre they always were.
Basically this. >What if toys had feelings? >What if insects had feelings? >What if the monsters in your closet had feelings? >What if fish had feelings? >What if superheroes had feelings? >What if vehicles had feelings? >What if rodents + the French cooking industry had feelings? >What if robots had feelings? >What if geriatrics had feelings? >What if Scots had feelings? >What if feelings had feelings? >What if dinosaurs had feelings? >What if beaners had feelings? >What if fairytales had feelings? >What if black people had feelings? >What if mer people had feelings? >What if puberty had feelings? >What if elements had feelings? >What if churned-out sequels had feelings?
Before the milking, most of Pixar's ideas were just the same recycled story template of "x-thing is alive" crap since that's all they knew.
>What if monsters in your closet had feelings? >What if beaners had feelings? >What if robots had feelings?
You're not wrong overall but these are fricking great and truly have quality messaging. >laughter is better than agony >your family's history is important >gluttony is wrong
All solid af movies.
Most ideas are pretty simple when you boil them down to their barest elements. What made Pixar's classic stories work weren't the ideas, but the characters and their ability to tie it to universal human experiences such as Toy Story being tied dealing with change, the nature of identity and the fear of loss.
>The studio should full independent. Just let the brand around for the clout.
What's the point of that now? It's too late. It's been gutted. No one with any connection left to the golden years or even any talent is still there.
I made a mistake and I wasn't clear enough. >The studio should BE* full independent.
Pixar should be full independent BACK THEN with Disney carrying the brand around as a badge of quality.
I agree with you. It's too late now, they gutted and fired/relocated the people with talent.
They can't reign in the budget, because a massive chunk of that budget goes to buying their own tickets in order to keep those top 10 spots. Only true talent could save them.
Disney is doing great, they are still sitting secure as the best entertainment company in the world. Wish is a tremendous movie and as we get closer to Christmas, tens of millions of families will be taking a trip to the theater to recapture some of that Disney magic. The Marvels may have underperformed somewhat, but that's not Disney's fault. A boycott by racists, sexists, bigots, fascists, etc. is a small price to pay for being on the right side of history, and Disney knows that people who value love, tolerance, compassion and diversity have their back. All of this is to say nothing of the parks, which are doing excellently now that President Biden has steered us away from the twin crises of COVID19 and government mismanagement by his predecessor that resulted in runaway hyperinflation.
The problem isn't wokeshit on screen, the problem is the woke hiring practices. Internally replacing subversive but competent male israelites with subversive but incompetent women, trannies and blacks ensures that even if the material on screen changes, the company will still be doomed.
Not happening. At most, Apple might buy Pixar, ESPN, and some pieces of Marvel + Star Wars to bolster their streaming service. Everything else is dead weight.
Fire the entire upper and middle management. They are obviously incompetent and ideologically driven. Replace them with profit oriented people. Easier said than done tho
They're done. Wokeshit is the end of them.
The last time they were in dire straits they still had an actual Disney at the company who ran the Save Disney campaign and oversaw their animation department.
Roy's lone gone. There aren't any Disneys there anymore.
they aren't going anywhere.
>Is this humongous company going to die and go down under
"no"
they'll be OK methinks
the Marvels cost 1 billion, 168 more to go
That market cap has reduced by 100% in the last 18 months. They had $47 billion in debt in July and their Hulu sale went through for like $9 billion a few weeks ago.
They cannot afford to have years like 2023 forever. Things need to change and soon. This year has shown they're not too big to fail.
lmao they've lost an accumulated $123B+ in the last few years alone. That market cap is fricking gone. Peltz I'd about curbstomp Iger into the fricking Earth.
That's just tied up assets and workforce draining the liquid capital. Nobody is going to buy your vault of shitty licenses at asking price. That "multi-billion studio" is just a concrete slab with drapes and a camera. All those diversity hires expect to be paid for their manhatten flats and avocado toast addictions every month while producing only lawsuits aimed at the few remaining wageslaves that haven't figured out that the system is rigged beyond repair.
A media companie's worth is measured entirely in how many lies they can sell in the future.
The rat ain't got shit.
The bigger they are the harder they fall
Disney *should* be a trillion dollar company like Apple and Tesla purely because of their cultural significance and impact on the past century.
Their current value shows how incredibly badly mismanaged they are in relation to their potential worth and isn't a good sign for the future of the company.
disney plus is kino so i hope not
where else can you watch malcolm in the middle reruns
In pirate services (absolutely for free).
Reminder that neither this nor ANY company going under is because of "wokeness" (whatever that even means). Its a mix of lingering covid/Trump effects in addition to a changing technological landscape. Specifically for Disney its the streaming along with younger generations shifting towards social media and videogames (both MUCH more "woke" than disney).
If anything the "wokeness" is the lifesupport keeping Disney alive. Ironically, the company would last a little longer if they actually committed to supporting progressive causes not just the occassional veiled lip service. Consumers want to know the company they're giving money to supports good causes (which as far as I can tell is what conservatives mean when they say "woke")
I know you're baiting but it's amazing to me this is the sort of mental gymnastics liberals are actually able to perform, especially their amazing capacity for blaming current problems on previous government
You can make these posts faster with chatgpt. At least run your post through it to make it more believable. Trolling is an art form lost on your homosexual generation.
How do I use chaptgp
Frick off
Pls tellme
>Consumers want to know the company they're giving money to supports good causes
I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly don't want companies supporting good causes. If a company supports good causes, what that means is that they're charging more for their product than they need to, and are passing on the cost of their philanthropy to me.
I will always prefer the products of an ideologically neutral or expressly evil company over a company dedicated to doing good, because I know that I'll get more product for my money.
bob iger himself says the content has been good enough and audiences dont like the messaging.
disney is one of those companies that is just too big to fail
if shit gets bad they'll just layoff a bunch of staff again to balance the scales, which won't hurt them so bad since every company is laying off their staff these days
Wolverine
Rebooted Iron-man
Sony Spider-man
Remember when Sony was struggling with Spiderman and had to lean on the MCU to pull the character out of a dive, now its Marvel desperately depending on Spiderman movies to improve their abysmal sales.
Funny how things turn.
Marvel has no need of Spider-Man to ""save"" the MCU, the problem is that they don't want to. Punisher, Ghost Rider, Wolverine, Daredevil and Hulk are ips that, done right, can make money.
Parks will keep them going for a long time
>Ran Star Wars into the ground in just 3 years
>MCU has been flopping since COVID
>Tried going full woke and now has to do a 180 after realizing that shit doesn't sell
>Pixar is far past its peak and now just makes forgettable shit
They should just ditch capeshit at this point and try experimenting with original ideas. They managed to do this well in the 2000s
The Pixar situation is what surprises me the most.
I remember when I was a kid and every Pixar movie was 10/10, then the whole studio just died with Toy Story 3 (I consider it an uninspired movie).
The studio should full independent. Just let the brand around for the clout.
Pixar stopped being perfect after the first Cars movie, albeit the studio was always overrated tbh. It took Cars 2 to expose how mediocre they always were.
Basically this.
>What if toys had feelings?
>What if insects had feelings?
>What if the monsters in your closet had feelings?
>What if fish had feelings?
>What if superheroes had feelings?
>What if vehicles had feelings?
>What if rodents + the French cooking industry had feelings?
>What if robots had feelings?
>What if geriatrics had feelings?
>What if Scots had feelings?
>What if feelings had feelings?
>What if dinosaurs had feelings?
>What if beaners had feelings?
>What if fairytales had feelings?
>What if black people had feelings?
>What if mer people had feelings?
>What if puberty had feelings?
>What if elements had feelings?
>What if churned-out sequels had feelings?
Before the milking, most of Pixar's ideas were just the same recycled story template of "x-thing is alive" crap since that's all they knew.
>What if monsters in your closet had feelings?
>What if beaners had feelings?
>What if robots had feelings?
You're not wrong overall but these are fricking great and truly have quality messaging.
>laughter is better than agony
>your family's history is important
>gluttony is wrong
All solid af movies.
Most ideas are pretty simple when you boil them down to their barest elements. What made Pixar's classic stories work weren't the ideas, but the characters and their ability to tie it to universal human experiences such as Toy Story being tied dealing with change, the nature of identity and the fear of loss.
>The studio should full independent. Just let the brand around for the clout.
What's the point of that now? It's too late. It's been gutted. No one with any connection left to the golden years or even any talent is still there.
I made a mistake and I wasn't clear enough.
>The studio should BE* full independent.
Pixar should be full independent BACK THEN with Disney carrying the brand around as a badge of quality.
I agree with you. It's too late now, they gutted and fired/relocated the people with talent.
Iger just straight up saying they went too far with it during the same event where elon told him to go frick himself is wild
Too big to fail.
disney still has 3 movies in the top 10 for the year (4 if you count avatar's 2023 gross), they just need to reign in the budgets.
They can't reign in the budget, because a massive chunk of that budget goes to buying their own tickets in order to keep those top 10 spots. Only true talent could save them.
>disney still has 3 movies
It doesn't help if they cost a billion to make, my ghomie
will their moronic staff take the needed paycuts of 50% or more? stay tuned.
Frozen and Inside Out sequels will save it
No , they can go frick themselves
Disney is doing great, they are still sitting secure as the best entertainment company in the world. Wish is a tremendous movie and as we get closer to Christmas, tens of millions of families will be taking a trip to the theater to recapture some of that Disney magic. The Marvels may have underperformed somewhat, but that's not Disney's fault. A boycott by racists, sexists, bigots, fascists, etc. is a small price to pay for being on the right side of history, and Disney knows that people who value love, tolerance, compassion and diversity have their back. All of this is to say nothing of the parks, which are doing excellently now that President Biden has steered us away from the twin crises of COVID19 and government mismanagement by his predecessor that resulted in runaway hyperinflation.
Without firing literally everyone who currently works for the company?
No.
The problem isn't wokeshit on screen, the problem is the woke hiring practices. Internally replacing subversive but competent male israelites with subversive but incompetent women, trannies and blacks ensures that even if the material on screen changes, the company will still be doomed.
disneys problem is their uber liberal staff who make niche movies no one wants to see
>not watching classic disney movies on disney+
everything is shit now but we still have the oldies
Apple buying them
Not happening. At most, Apple might buy Pixar, ESPN, and some pieces of Marvel + Star Wars to bolster their streaming service. Everything else is dead weight.
>Apple
Amazon.
Fire the entire upper and middle management. They are obviously incompetent and ideologically driven. Replace them with profit oriented people. Easier said than done tho
Musk could do it but he went full moron with twitter, idk if he would do it again.
I'm not sure he'd even want to touch Disney. Honestly it would be pretty funny if he bought it just to fire everybody and abolish the brand lmao