I'm 33 and honestly not joking feel I'm the best I've ever been. It's incredible how much more success you have in life once you just stop giving a frick about failure. I cannot believe I ever had a problem with talking to women, getting a job, playing a sport, learning new skills. I worry about the wrinkles when they come but the only regret I have is not having my attitude when I was 25.
Literally the only reason Millennials aren't driving their kids into even deeper perversions is that they aren't having any. Only reason. Every Millennial I know who actually has kids is riddled with anxiety for them about the looming high school years. All their kids have some degree of autism or are generally moronic in some way because of screens.
Ringo only murders defenseless people and his posse thinks he's a bad ass for it. Doc being a degenerate doesn't like him, and when he tries to frick with his friend he was going to kill him multiple times but his friends wouldn't let him.
Long answer: Boomers and Xoomers liked edgy characters and anti-heroes to some extent but didn't identify with them like you cancerous Millenni-zoomers. That's why the film reduces many of his scenes to a montage and cut a few of them that they shot and instead making it a film about Wyatt Earp. He's the "everyman" hero that boomers and xoomers identify with.
Based Kurt is a boomer and xoomer hero. Millennials made Val a meme later.
My dad was born in the early 60s, loves Tombstone. He still thinks Doc is the best character. Then again he also loves Falling Down, maybe my dad is just edgy.
your dad knows what every non-mentally ill person knows that Doc was the best character. That Val Kilmer didn't get an award for carrying that movie is a disgrace.
your dad knows what every non-mentally ill person knows that Doc was the best character. That Val Kilmer didn't get an award for carrying that movie is a disgrace.
My dad was born in the early 60s, loves Tombstone. He still thinks Doc is the best character. Then again he also loves Falling Down, maybe my dad is just edgy.
>the Terminator dude was pretty comical as Johnny Ringo.
Bien was perfect. As an alcoholic IRL he had the perfect blend of edgy hard-ass who was ultimately a bully coward. Same with Johnny Tyler, madcap and Ike Clanton. Recurring theme in the film.
>That Val Kilmer didn't get an award for carrying that movie is a disgrace.
There was a rival Wyatt Earp movie that came out the next year. lol Nobody would want to wade into that drama and piss off Kevin Costner at the peak of his career.
it was a good movie, but Tombstone was better and the only reason it is still talked about was because of Val Kilmer nailing the role. Nobody talks about Kevin Coster as Wyatt Earp.
>Nobody talks about Kevin Coster as Wyatt Earp
to be fair that's partly because the first half of dances with wolves and especially open range were much better
Dunno what to tell you. Gen-X liked the film in the 90's but no one got moronic about Doc Holiday until reddit Millennials got social media and sperged at each other. Not blaming them, just pointing out that "literally me"-moronation didn't really apply pre- social media.
I realize you really really really want to bully older generations but the truth is they're always going to be far more insulated from the infinite ways you sad fricks have embarrassed yourselves on the internet simply because they never had the opportunity when they were young.
>this level of histrionic projection
Embarrassing. I’m probably older than you. And since the movie was released in theaters, Kilmer was considered the best performance. Just because homosexuals on Reddit started making memes about it decades later doesn’t mean they started a precedent.
No one ever said it wasn't the best performance, ESL moron. The question was if Gen-X and Boomers overly-identified with the character as a meme the way Millennials and Zoomers do. They didn't.
>Just because homosexuals on Reddit started making memes about it decades later doesn’t mean they started a precedent.
It literally does.
While it is true that Boomers tend to idolize quite a bit of Kurt Russell in fiction, it's also untrue that they didn't latch onto depictions of rugged everymen and identify with them. Older traditionalist Boomers relentlessly emulate Sam Elliot in general, and of course his depiction of Virgil as a rough, soft-spoken man unafraid to speak his mind yet refined enough to be respected and at times feared. In the same sense that (younger) Millennials tend to latch onto iconoclast characters with a penchant for rebellion, Boomers tend to relate to those that represent some vestige of traditionalism and living more simply.
>it's also untrue that they didn't latch onto depictions of rugged everymen and identify with them.
No, but it's also not unlikely they didn't not necessarily find other characters not unrelatable.
I don't of course not disagree, but it's not as if the notion one wouldn't find a rugged man unrelatable entirely disagreeable. It's not something I can't find without merit, not that I am saying I don't one way or the other even though I might not have been entirely clear or unclear. Though I am not one to say if I can't believe it impossible others wouldn't disagree.
>identify
just so you know no one "identified" with anyone like ten years ago, this is some bullshit newfangled term for liking a character.
I've never identified with any character in my life, no one is like me.
People have identified and emulated fictional character since storytelling was invented. This generation is not special in any way in that regard, I don't know what the frick you're saying.
Turkey Creek Jack Johnson: "Doc, you oughta be in bed, what the hell you doin' this for anyway?"
Doc Holliday: "Wyatt Earp is my friend."
Turkey Creek Jack Johnson: "Hell, I got lots of friends."
Doc Holliday: "...I don't."
Tombstone makes Doc Holliday out to be some superhero, when in reality the only person he ever killed he did in cold blood. He didn't even kill anyone at the OK corral
he was literally a drunk degenerate that was friends with Wyatt Earp, and only lived as long as he did because Wyatt Earp and his brothers protected him from the law.
Nah. Roma are a different ethnic group entirely. It's like having criminals on entirely separate ends of the IQ spectrum existing in the same geographical area. I live in Florida and we've actually had gypsy gangs running cell phone theft scams in the past few years.
2 years ago
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bro, gypsy's are every negative stereotype about the israelites, they are fricking bottom of the barrel scum. You fricking mutts really never had to deal with them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You fricking mutts really never had to deal with them.
First of all, this is an American board so you can drop the smugness. Secondly, if you weren't ESL you'd realize I never implied they weren't israelite-like. In fact, quite the opposite. I implied they are low-functioning israelites, or that israelites are high-functioning gypsies, which is a common observation. Lurk and stfu europoor.
Cinemaphile needs to ban non-Americans or at least non-native English countries from all high traffic boards.
he was literally a drunk degenerate that was friends with Wyatt Earp, and only lived as long as he did because Wyatt Earp and his brothers protected him from the law.
he's only a legend of the wild west because he road the coattails of the earps.
the only reason they became friends is they got thrown out of every town they were in, if you think the earp's were good people then you should read up on them.
>Tombstone makes Doc Holliday out to be some superhero, when in reality the only person he ever killed he did in cold blood
What? He was a fricking Confederate Cavalryman
He stabbed a guy in the heart that called him out for cheating at poker, and shot a guy in the back that accused him of cheating at poker. Back then being notorious and having a name echoed in peoples minds. psychologically when every one has heard your name from reading the newspaper you became a scary figure. Some drunk moron murdered Bill Hickock in cold blood over a game over poker.
the myth that there was some manhunt and trial is so fricking moronic, Wild Bill was the most popular person in the US. They fricking lynched his ass on the spot.
He was shot by a c**t, when he talked it reminds one of a c**t flapping, his droopy eye looks like the lid of a c**t.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>when you talk it looks like a c**t moving
2 years ago
Anonymous
what's this from?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm barely legal age to post here and I know fricking Deadwood.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you stupid wienersucker
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you from San Francisco by chance?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Deadwood is one of the greatest shows ever made, and bar-none the best Western, although some would argue it's a mistake to qualify it as such. Go watch it as soon as possible anon, I promise you will only be disappointed when it ends as it was canceled before the final season.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did they ever explain how McCall escaped from a death sentence, joined up with George Hearst's geological company, took on a different name and fixed his stutter?
2 years ago
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same actor played two roles.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>3 including a one-line role in the movie
Based Fricking Dillahunt
It's 100% newbie memery that was "in" before the good/evil tic-tac-toe meme. I always thought it was stupid and projection before it was "projection."
that "x265 10-bit" looks grainy as frick, dude. x264 for the win. >Disc Title: Tombstone 1993 1080p BluRay x264 DTS-HD MA 5.1- Zen@BluRG >Length: 2:09:37 (h:m:s) >Size: 18.5 Gb >Total Bitrate: 20.4 Mbps
You are full of shit, Mr. Shrunkenpixel. x265 10 bit is kino, buttery framerate, and half the size on disk. The grain you're seeing is the actual film grain.
You 264gays should be hosed and floured. If it weren't for you we'd be in the future of encodes by now and wouldn't have to sift through mountains of 264shit. I hate finding something that was hard to find, it isn't even that old, and it is only in 264. What a waste of time.
One had an all-star cast
Kurt Russel
Val Kilmer
Sam Elliot
Michael Beihn
Bill Paxton
Powers Boothe
fricking Charlton Heston even was in it.
I'll even add Jason Priestly because he was big at the time from Beverly Hills 90210
Yeah, and the movie was a fricking pile of shit. A great cast can't save a horrible script, awful editing, bad acting, pointless scenes with bad pacing. Tombstone is garbage.
You just did. So you like the shitty picnic scene? You like the scene where Wyatt is crying with blood on his hands as he stumbles into the rain? The plot armor in the "NO! NOOO! NOOO!!!" scene? The movie is fricking bad. Get some better taste.
I'm not even being contrarian. The movie is bad, I should have turned it off at the picnic scene. I knew once the women were shown getting off the wagon and one was doing drugs it would be a stupid movie. And I was right. As much as I love Russell, he couldn't save the movie. As much as I love westerns, the shootouts and plot did nothing. Gunfight at the O.K. Coral shits on this movie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the movie is bad
didn't even read the rest of your stupid post. you don't know shit about what makes a movie good.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i mean you're wrong but i think i hate the buttblasted tombstone defense force even more
2 years ago
Anonymous
you could just let them enjoy a movie they liked instead of trying to piss them off. It's not like this thread comes up that often, maybe once every few months.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nah there's a weird fandom for this mediocre flick and they shill it here often
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm actually right. Who in their right mind likes the picnic scene? Russell's acting is pretty bad most of the time. There's no interesting conflict that happens, it's just there. The pacing of the film is all over the place, especially near the end "HEY! LET RIIIIIDE!" then the movie slogs on for another 20 minutes. People only like the movie because it's baby's first Hollywood western and Val Kilmer. I've never been more let down by a movie other than Zatoichi from 2003. They're both equally shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>interesting conflict
He's married. The doey-eyed actress is luring him, a hero with good moral foundation, into thinking about his state of things. He's stuffy. But he can't help but think, while experiencing a taste of it during this very picnic, what life could be like with such a wild, free woman. She entices him into the ride. He has fun. He is still married and now in a conundrum. He is a man. He has feelings. Wants. He COULD drop all this other shit and eat room service while travelling the countryside without a care.
>no conflict
God damn you are such an insufferable rube. >pacing
Coming from you? You don't even know what the frick you're talking about. lol you actually think that you're the one out of everyone else that knows what tempo and rhythm is? >people only like it
Oh? Tell me, o great sage, what is your choice kinos? This should be a great treat for us all.
I'll wait.
2 years ago
Anonymous
well i agree with the pacing criticism. the movie falls apart near the end. i want a recut because right now it's a mediocre mess but i think there's a better movie buried in there. russell said something similar and he has (or had) the footage yet here we are
Yeah, and the movie was a fricking pile of shit. A great cast can't save a horrible script, awful editing, bad acting, pointless scenes with bad pacing. Tombstone is garbage.
in real life they tracked down curly bill and assassinated him, there was some firing back but it didn't matter because they had them surrounded.
2 years ago
Anonymous
guess you shouldn't be on the bad side of the texas rangers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>half of the 'Cowboy gang' that included many Texas Rangers defected with Earp and became federalized Marshall's that went around indiscriminately murdering people that wanted better pay from the cattle lords were the bad guys.
2 years ago
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>we just wanted better pay, that was why we had to rob those people and raid ranches across the border
2 years ago
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unironically, yes
2 years ago
Anonymous
you were expected to give your life fighting for your ranch owners territory, and they didn't pay jack shit other than give you room and board.
2 years ago
Anonymous
feudalism ftw
2 years ago
Anonymous
Billy The Kid in your path.
2 years ago
Anonymous
billy the kid assassinated an entire county and state politicians and escaped from the US Army, escaped prison, mother fricker was such a badass
2 years ago
Anonymous
he never escaped prison, he escaped a county jail.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think you missed the point fren
2 years ago
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>in real life they tracked down curly bill and assassinated him, there was some firing back but it didn't matter because they had them surrounded.
Shit got more dramatic with Doc and Texas Jack, who got shot off his horse and surrounded in real life.
>drunken butthole poker cheat
What an awful thing to say to me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Age quod agis
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ixnay on the hombre.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Let the israelite Apella believe it, not me
2 years ago
Anonymous
Temet nosce.
Anyone happen to know if this is still the best version available? I was going to make a bunch of new VP9 webms from the movie but I want to make sure I have the best quality version first >Tombstone.1993.1080p.BluRay.x264-AVCHD
Anyone happen to know if this is still the best version available? I was going to make a bunch of new VP9 webms from the movie but I want to make sure I have the best quality version first >Tombstone.1993.1080p.BluRay.x264-AVCHD
Anyone happen to know if this is still the best version available? I was going to make a bunch of new VP9 webms from the movie but I want to make sure I have the best quality version first >Tombstone.1993.1080p.BluRay.x264-AVCHD
Took me awhile to find it. Rips have been shit and hard to find for Tombstone for years for some reason. Maybe it's because it's so kino that a lot of homosexuals own in legit. 4K is FINALLY coming this fall, though, so you can wait for that and keep your fingers crossed it doesn't look like grainy shit.
that and texas rangers were battle hardened veterans that worked closely with indian tribes to hunt commanches and were expert trackers, they also had a tight-knit group with the governments in the territories. they were basically commanche's with a badge.
No it wasn't homosexual, a group of patriots from Tennessee Left their wives and said frick this lets go take over these mexicans fast forward 5 yrs and they did. Mexico couldn't take Texas you ignoramus
>tfw all you ever wanted was to sit in a cozy saloon and larp as Doc Holiday with randos playing poker >Rockstar turns the game into GTA: Wild West griefing simulator shitshow >then abandons the game
I guess I should be more specific. Being able to ambush people in the wilderness is entirely kino. There is a push/tackle/grapple mechanic that lets you run up on random players and push them off cliffs and many treasures are located on the side of steep drops. Nothing has ever been more satisfying to me than pulling that off. You can also rope them and throw them off bridges or feed them to alligators. Griefing can absolutely be fun in RDO.
What I was specifically referring to was places like saloons and the cities and towns where the ambiance can get ruined in an instant.
yeah I know, I like the single player game. I just hunt animals and skin them most of the time or fish between helping some lady getting robbed by a gang that always attacks me.
>yeah i tried to target simgays with a mic because they'd seethe the hardest
The smart ones moved to bootleg RP servers on PC. Anyone trying to do that on console deserves to get bullied.
The extent at which these fricking morons mishandled online is beyond infuriating.
Also the singleplayer story is good but massively overrated and the morality system is a fricking joke
Cost-Benefit analysis. Simple as. They would always make more return on every $1 spent by putting that money into GTAO or GTA VI. The game will get a re-launch for next gen consoles after GTA VI, probably with Mexico expansion and new narrative content but it'll be pushing 10 years after the original game was released.
If they had done the game right the first time they probably wouldn't have been able to test certain code for GTA VI's online, which was the entire point of RDO in the first place. There is a reason the game was released as a "beta" and it was so nonsensically designed. Just testing code for GTA.
>Cost-Benefit analysis. Simple as
They still went about their dripfeed in the most moronic way possible. There are like 15 unique horse coats they never even ported from sp to mp when they could have charged gold for all of them
You know what else is great benefit for your money? When your billion-dollar game is made fun of by millions as a loading-simulator, you try to fricking fix it instead of ignoring it for 8 years until some modder realizes your billion dollar game is loading things as inefficiently as fricking possible.
People always say rockstar is doing what makes the most money, but in reality they are still horribly fricking up a ton of things that most certainly reduced their potential profits
They're bad at online. They were a decade late in even getting into it. I just think you can be bad at online AND only concerned with making money online. The two aren't mutually exclusive. That's why GTAO being "successful" was a big problem for them. It (along with the political/cultural changes of the Obama era) ruined them. Undone by their own success and put in the position where the things they're actually good at are less important than the things they aren't.
Doc Holliday knew that he was dying and wasn't scared of death. So he encouraged everyone that wasn't terminal to try and kill him and made them understand their own mortality. He was basically the drunk at the bar that tries to fight everybody.
yep, nothing is scarier than trying to be scary to someone that has nothing to lose, also doc holliday was a sophisticated gentlemen from the aristocracy of the south.
There are no historical records of Ringo's death. He just disappeared. Also they never challenged Wyatt Earp to a duel, they were running scared at that point and Earp wasn't going to give them legitimacy to a gun fight at noon behind a tree.
Yeah I have an 8gb one which was the best I could find at the time. I'd swap now but apparently we are finally getting 4k so I'll just wait for that one.
It's 100% newbie memery that was "in" before the good/evil tic-tac-toe meme. I always thought it was stupid and projection before it was "projection."
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You are full of shit, Mr. Shrunkenpixel. x265 10 bit is kino, buttery framerate, and half the size on disk. The grain you're seeing is the actual film grain.
You 264gays should be hosed and floured. If it weren't for you we'd be in the future of encodes by now and wouldn't have to sift through mountains of 264shit. I hate finding something that was hard to find, it isn't even that old, and it is only in 264. What a waste of time.
It was joke. They're identical other than the x265 being half the size.
Yeah I have an 8gb one which was the best I could find at the time. I'd swap now but apparently we are finally getting 4k so I'll just wait for that one.
It also depends on the source of the encode and who encoded it as to what kind of quality you get.
>Huckleberries hold a place in archaic American English slang. The phrase "a huckleberry over my persimmon" was used to mean "a bit beyond my abilities." "I'm your huckleberry" is a way of saying that one is just the right person for a given job.[9] The range of slang meanings of huckleberry in the 19th century was broad, also referring to significant persons or nice persons.[10][11]
My bet was on Huck Finn reference of some type. I was wrong? Still uncertain.
>I'm your huckleberry" is a way of saying that one is just the right person for a given job
yeah this is known, but youtubers made zoomers moronic for views.
I don't know I didn't read it. Literally sitting beside me for nearly ten years and I haven't picked it up. I always feel like I'm saving it for the right time...
>but why the word huckleberry
because it was what children would use as an excuse to get out of hard work to pick huckleberries, Doc means that killing Johnny Ringo would be an easy and simple task
I have seen Wyatt Earp's 'Peacemaker' pistols in a museum I think it was in Wyoming. I wanted to start a youtube channel about it and then realized I'd have to use an anime avatar.
Doc Holliday was a southern aristocrat, his parents were rich plantation owners and he had access to the highest levels of education and art that money could afford, he didn't become 'Doc Holliday' until he got tuberculosis that was untreatable in that age. Knowing that he was going to die he went around the country being a shitty gambler, ran in with the Earp's that got in on a racket together, they separated ways for a few years before reuniting in Tombstone, where the Earp's tried to establish a gambling racket and Doc was their card shark.
264 jumps frames. Instead of, say, a smooth motion like a hand waving or a car moving along, the 264 one skips frames. It's extremely noticeable in panning and zooming shots. Watch as the treeline stutters into the foreground. Or, instead of sliding past, the background behind the car skips past. Dut. Dut. Dut. Dut. I can't unsee it.
>participate in a tombstone discussion >go to bar as usual >girls has jonny ringo and doc holliday tattoos
I always knew the universe revolved around me. So I am already dead and in hell.
Probably, but replace tuberculosis with lead poisoning and lung cancer.
Hes literally me now and I'm 28 what are you talking about
I'm in my prime
28.. dude youre almost an old frick. 2 more years
He's not a woman.
That expiration date would be lowered to 18
I'm 33 and honestly not joking feel I'm the best I've ever been. It's incredible how much more success you have in life once you just stop giving a frick about failure. I cannot believe I ever had a problem with talking to women, getting a job, playing a sport, learning new skills. I worry about the wrinkles when they come but the only regret I have is not having my attitude when I was 25.
Based. In the same boat. I don't even care about the wrinkles. I look better and more fit than most of my friends.
>I'm in my prime
Yeah you look it.
>he's drunk
>in vino veritas
In pace requiescat
>pulls gun and flips it around menacingly
>flips cup around in a comical fashion
>makes your friends laugh at you getting rekt by a drunk dentist.
Me too. I was a late bloomer
>Lumbago. It's a slow and painful death, my brother
rel af fr fr
Gen X, actually.
Boomers liked fossils like Clint Eastwood.
is Gen X 1960 to 1980????
Everyone I know born in that ages is a good person.
more like 1963, I think
No they are the absolute worst of all of them
Gen X is 1965 - 1980 and are also the generation known for mutilating their kids into trannies
Literally the only reason Millennials aren't driving their kids into even deeper perversions is that they aren't having any. Only reason. Every Millennial I know who actually has kids is riddled with anxiety for them about the looming high school years. All their kids have some degree of autism or are generally moronic in some way because of screens.
True, there would be a lot more troony kids if millennials were having kids at all.
Gen X is December 1969 through April 1972 (except for people born on February 29, 1972 who are now considered "core" Millennials.)
Crazy women have always been a thing, the difference is Gen X is where they started letting women make the decisions
hes the "literally me" for millenial hipsters too
For Gen X, not boomers
for me, it's Johnny Ringo
HEY LUNGER!
Why Johnny Ringo. You look like somebody just walked ovah your grave.
You were just too high-strung.
>A man like Ringo just wants revenge.
>Revenge... revenge for what?
>Being born.
Sounds like every antifa homosexual.
The difference is that Ringo can back his talk up, whereas antifa bands need the entire pack to even start to do anything
Ringo only murders defenseless people and his posse thinks he's a bad ass for it. Doc being a degenerate doesn't like him, and when he tries to frick with his friend he was going to kill him multiple times but his friends wouldn't let him.
he literally pretends that he is on his deathbed so he could do the job without Wyatt knowing about it and keeping him from doing it again.
me when I was an edgy teenager
I feel like I should hate him, what does Cinemaphile think?
he's an educated man. I hate em
You don't even know 'em
He reminds me of myself.
you're no daisy at all
>OH MY GOD
>OH GOD HE'S GOING TO DO IT
>OH MY SCIENCE
"I'm your Huckleberry..."
>*squirts*
>*jizzes*
>*refreshes r/all*
It's I'm here Huckleberry anyone that opposes this can meet me in the square at denton
what? no that's completely wrong you moron, the phrase existed before Tombstone
My apologies it's actually I'm here, Huckleberry
I missed the punctuation
you're so drunk you are probably seeing double.
No one could pretend to be that cool if they tried. Now op let's have a spelling contest.
release the russell cut
>why you doin' all this
>Wyatt Earp is my friend
>psssh, i got lots a friends
>well i don't
kino
he's literally me.
The short answer is Noooooooooo.
Long answer: Boomers and Xoomers liked edgy characters and anti-heroes to some extent but didn't identify with them like you cancerous Millenni-zoomers. That's why the film reduces many of his scenes to a montage and cut a few of them that they shot and instead making it a film about Wyatt Earp. He's the "everyman" hero that boomers and xoomers identify with.
Based Kurt is a boomer and xoomer hero. Millennials made Val a meme later.
My dad was born in the early 60s, loves Tombstone. He still thinks Doc is the best character. Then again he also loves Falling Down, maybe my dad is just edgy.
your dad knows what every non-mentally ill person knows that Doc was the best character. That Val Kilmer didn't get an award for carrying that movie is a disgrace.
Powers Boothe also did a good job of being an over the top bad guy, the Terminator dude was pretty comical as Johnny Ringo.
t. Lunger you probably don't even play for blood
The casting for this film really was superb.
>the Terminator dude was pretty comical as Johnny Ringo.
Bien was perfect. As an alcoholic IRL he had the perfect blend of edgy hard-ass who was ultimately a bully coward. Same with Johnny Tyler, madcap and Ike Clanton. Recurring theme in the film.
All good characters are chaotic neutral
>That Val Kilmer didn't get an award for carrying that movie is a disgrace.
There was a rival Wyatt Earp movie that came out the next year. lol Nobody would want to wade into that drama and piss off Kevin Costner at the peak of his career.
it was a good movie, but Tombstone was better and the only reason it is still talked about was because of Val Kilmer nailing the role. Nobody talks about Kevin Coster as Wyatt Earp.
>Nobody talks about Kevin Coster as Wyatt Earp
to be fair that's partly because the first half of dances with wolves and especially open range were much better
His movies are almost as bland and forgettable as his acting
Quaid was the better doc, imo.
>"kiss my rebel dick!"
>this level of delusional fiction
Well done
Dunno what to tell you. Gen-X liked the film in the 90's but no one got moronic about Doc Holiday until reddit Millennials got social media and sperged at each other. Not blaming them, just pointing out that "literally me"-moronation didn't really apply pre- social media.
I realize you really really really want to bully older generations but the truth is they're always going to be far more insulated from the infinite ways you sad fricks have embarrassed yourselves on the internet simply because they never had the opportunity when they were young.
>this level of histrionic projection
Embarrassing. I’m probably older than you. And since the movie was released in theaters, Kilmer was considered the best performance. Just because homosexuals on Reddit started making memes about it decades later doesn’t mean they started a precedent.
No one ever said it wasn't the best performance, ESL moron. The question was if Gen-X and Boomers overly-identified with the character as a meme the way Millennials and Zoomers do. They didn't.
>Just because homosexuals on Reddit started making memes about it decades later doesn’t mean they started a precedent.
It literally does.
While it is true that Boomers tend to idolize quite a bit of Kurt Russell in fiction, it's also untrue that they didn't latch onto depictions of rugged everymen and identify with them. Older traditionalist Boomers relentlessly emulate Sam Elliot in general, and of course his depiction of Virgil as a rough, soft-spoken man unafraid to speak his mind yet refined enough to be respected and at times feared. In the same sense that (younger) Millennials tend to latch onto iconoclast characters with a penchant for rebellion, Boomers tend to relate to those that represent some vestige of traditionalism and living more simply.
>it's also untrue that they didn't latch onto depictions of rugged everymen and identify with them.
No, but it's also not unlikely they didn't not necessarily find other characters not unrelatable.
I don't of course not disagree, but it's not as if the notion one wouldn't find a rugged man unrelatable entirely disagreeable. It's not something I can't find without merit, not that I am saying I don't one way or the other even though I might not have been entirely clear or unclear. Though I am not one to say if I can't believe it impossible others wouldn't disagree.
I don't not get what you're saying, bro
>identify
just so you know no one "identified" with anyone like ten years ago, this is some bullshit newfangled term for liking a character.
I've never identified with any character in my life, no one is like me.
People have identified and emulated fictional character since storytelling was invented. This generation is not special in any way in that regard, I don't know what the frick you're saying.
This was one of the main points of Unforgiven, and even touched upon in Red Dead Redemption.
It's a concept for a godless society. Millenials and zoomers are lost souls, whose identity is solely defined via consoomerism.gndwj
No, because he's literally me.
No, it's the "he's literally me" for huckleberries
no. only moronic children think fictional characters are "literally" them
adults laugh at these kids
the main difference is you smoke skin wagons.
I thought you were retired from owning motherfrickers, wyatt.
skin it billy bob. Jerk that pistol and go to work.
Xoomers prefer based Kurt
Zoomers think they're a huckleberry but in reality they're no daisy. No daisy at all.
Boomers are the lead, anon. "Literally me" betas belong to the younger folk as the good lord intended.
smoking skin wagons is how I describe blowjobs from now on.
Yes, but I'm gen X
>only has one friend that he is loyal to the death for that puts up with his drunken bullshit
literally me
Turkey Creek Jack Johnson: "Doc, you oughta be in bed, what the hell you doin' this for anyway?"
Doc Holliday: "Wyatt Earp is my friend."
Turkey Creek Jack Johnson: "Hell, I got lots of friends."
Doc Holliday: "...I don't."
yea this is the line that hits a lot of people, the movie is corny but val kilmer fricking made that movie good.
>the movie is corny
>couldn't go a thread without posting a picture of yourself with 3.png
you are going to make me watch Tombstone again for the millionth time
You're a daisy if you do.
I'm a zoomer and I wish I was Val Kilmer's Doc Holliday
Tombstone makes Doc Holliday out to be some superhero, when in reality the only person he ever killed he did in cold blood. He didn't even kill anyone at the OK corral
he was literally a drunk degenerate that was friends with Wyatt Earp, and only lived as long as he did because Wyatt Earp and his brothers protected him from the law.
his lady, big nose kate.... big nose was slang for a lady you could pay for blowjobs at the time.
No she was a israeliteess, you idiot.
she probably was, but you are thinking of the gal that Wyatt Earp ended up marrying.
tell me if this isn't a israelite, moron
eh not all brown eyed eastern europeans are israeli, but she does look pretty israeli.
>Hungarian israelite "devil" woman destroys a man and then abandons him
What? No way...
>Hungarian
so she was a gypsy
Nah. Roma are a different ethnic group entirely. It's like having criminals on entirely separate ends of the IQ spectrum existing in the same geographical area. I live in Florida and we've actually had gypsy gangs running cell phone theft scams in the past few years.
bro, gypsy's are every negative stereotype about the israelites, they are fricking bottom of the barrel scum. You fricking mutts really never had to deal with them.
>You fricking mutts really never had to deal with them.
First of all, this is an American board so you can drop the smugness. Secondly, if you weren't ESL you'd realize I never implied they weren't israelite-like. In fact, quite the opposite. I implied they are low-functioning israelites, or that israelites are high-functioning gypsies, which is a common observation. Lurk and stfu europoor.
Cinemaphile needs to ban non-Americans or at least non-native English countries from all high traffic boards.
Cope mutt
he's only a legend of the wild west because he road the coattails of the earps.
other way around, Doc was already famous when he and the Earp brothers got together.
the only reason they became friends is they got thrown out of every town they were in, if you think the earp's were good people then you should read up on them.
You aren't going to find western grifters and being good people as two common traits of many people
>Tombstone makes Doc Holliday out to be some superhero, when in reality the only person he ever killed he did in cold blood
What? He was a fricking Confederate Cavalryman
He stabbed a guy in the heart that called him out for cheating at poker, and shot a guy in the back that accused him of cheating at poker. Back then being notorious and having a name echoed in peoples minds. psychologically when every one has heard your name from reading the newspaper you became a scary figure. Some drunk moron murdered Bill Hickock in cold blood over a game over poker.
Hickock was legit by most accounts though and was losing his vision at that point in his life.
he got shot in a bar playing poker, there wasn't really anything he could do about it.
and the moron that shot him immediately got the shit beat out of him and hanged.
the myth that there was some manhunt and trial is so fricking moronic, Wild Bill was the most popular person in the US. They fricking lynched his ass on the spot.
He was shot by a c**t, when he talked it reminds one of a c**t flapping, his droopy eye looks like the lid of a c**t.
>when you talk it looks like a c**t moving
what's this from?
I'm barely legal age to post here and I know fricking Deadwood.
you stupid wienersucker
Are you from San Francisco by chance?
Deadwood is one of the greatest shows ever made, and bar-none the best Western, although some would argue it's a mistake to qualify it as such. Go watch it as soon as possible anon, I promise you will only be disappointed when it ends as it was canceled before the final season.
Did they ever explain how McCall escaped from a death sentence, joined up with George Hearst's geological company, took on a different name and fixed his stutter?
same actor played two roles.
>3 including a one-line role in the movie
Based Fricking Dillahunt
That's why it's called 'authentic', not 'accurate'.
>muh joos
You fricking tools.
I SPOTTED THE israelite!
You. Are. Not. Immune. To. Criticism.
also White Privilege is a projecting israelite-created myth but israeli Privilege is very, very real
>implying gypsy's aren't israelites
they are racially israeli
Wyatt Earp and his brothers were fricking criminal murderers hiding behind a badge.
btw, the federal government was going to use the Pinkertons to assassinate them until the Texas Rangers got involved on the Earp's behalf.
>until the Texas Rangers got involved on the Earp's behalf.
this is fricking bullshit
what? are you just trolling now?
almost all of the 'cowboy' gang defectors that joined Earp to avenge his brothers were texas rangers.
the cowboys weren't even a gang, they were a union of cattlemen that formed because the cattle barons were fricking c**ts.
But then they started robbing people, so
you giant homosexual wtf are you thinking
Well that's one of the most crungo things I've ever seen
It's 100% newbie memery that was "in" before the good/evil tic-tac-toe meme. I always thought it was stupid and projection before it was "projection."
You are full of shit, Mr. Shrunkenpixel. x265 10 bit is kino, buttery framerate, and half the size on disk. The grain you're seeing is the actual film grain.
You 264gays should be hosed and floured. If it weren't for you we'd be in the future of encodes by now and wouldn't have to sift through mountains of 264shit. I hate finding something that was hard to find, it isn't even that old, and it is only in 264. What a waste of time.
>and half the size on disk
Sorry sweaty, I only archive films in full quality
One had an all-star cast
Kurt Russel
Val Kilmer
Sam Elliot
Michael Beihn
Bill Paxton
Powers Boothe
fricking Charlton Heston even was in it.
I'll even add Jason Priestly because he was big at the time from Beverly Hills 90210
forgot Billy bob
Heston had a minor role but he commanded the screen.
Yeah, and the movie was a fricking pile of shit. A great cast can't save a horrible script, awful editing, bad acting, pointless scenes with bad pacing. Tombstone is garbage.
I will not acknowledge your moronic comment
You just did. So you like the shitty picnic scene? You like the scene where Wyatt is crying with blood on his hands as he stumbles into the rain? The plot armor in the "NO! NOOO! NOOO!!!" scene? The movie is fricking bad. Get some better taste.
fricking homosexual contrarians should be shot
I'm not even being contrarian. The movie is bad, I should have turned it off at the picnic scene. I knew once the women were shown getting off the wagon and one was doing drugs it would be a stupid movie. And I was right. As much as I love Russell, he couldn't save the movie. As much as I love westerns, the shootouts and plot did nothing. Gunfight at the O.K. Coral shits on this movie.
>the movie is bad
didn't even read the rest of your stupid post. you don't know shit about what makes a movie good.
i mean you're wrong but i think i hate the buttblasted tombstone defense force even more
you could just let them enjoy a movie they liked instead of trying to piss them off. It's not like this thread comes up that often, maybe once every few months.
nah there's a weird fandom for this mediocre flick and they shill it here often
I'm actually right. Who in their right mind likes the picnic scene? Russell's acting is pretty bad most of the time. There's no interesting conflict that happens, it's just there. The pacing of the film is all over the place, especially near the end "HEY! LET RIIIIIDE!" then the movie slogs on for another 20 minutes. People only like the movie because it's baby's first Hollywood western and Val Kilmer. I've never been more let down by a movie other than Zatoichi from 2003. They're both equally shit.
>interesting conflict
He's married. The doey-eyed actress is luring him, a hero with good moral foundation, into thinking about his state of things. He's stuffy. But he can't help but think, while experiencing a taste of it during this very picnic, what life could be like with such a wild, free woman. She entices him into the ride. He has fun. He is still married and now in a conundrum. He is a man. He has feelings. Wants. He COULD drop all this other shit and eat room service while travelling the countryside without a care.
>no conflict
God damn you are such an insufferable rube.
>pacing
Coming from you? You don't even know what the frick you're talking about. lol you actually think that you're the one out of everyone else that knows what tempo and rhythm is?
>people only like it
Oh? Tell me, o great sage, what is your choice kinos? This should be a great treat for us all.
I'll wait.
well i agree with the pacing criticism. the movie falls apart near the end. i want a recut because right now it's a mediocre mess but i think there's a better movie buried in there. russell said something similar and he has (or had) the footage yet here we are
No he's correct. The movie has great individual performances but the pacing and plot are god awful.
t. Ike Clanton posting from beyond the grave
>the plot armor in the "NO! NOOO! NOOO!!!" scene?
By all accounts that happened in actual life the same way you goddam churl.
in real life they tracked down curly bill and assassinated him, there was some firing back but it didn't matter because they had them surrounded.
guess you shouldn't be on the bad side of the texas rangers.
>half of the 'Cowboy gang' that included many Texas Rangers defected with Earp and became federalized Marshall's that went around indiscriminately murdering people that wanted better pay from the cattle lords were the bad guys.
>we just wanted better pay, that was why we had to rob those people and raid ranches across the border
unironically, yes
you were expected to give your life fighting for your ranch owners territory, and they didn't pay jack shit other than give you room and board.
feudalism ftw
Billy The Kid in your path.
billy the kid assassinated an entire county and state politicians and escaped from the US Army, escaped prison, mother fricker was such a badass
he never escaped prison, he escaped a county jail.
I think you missed the point fren
>in real life they tracked down curly bill and assassinated him, there was some firing back but it didn't matter because they had them surrounded.
Shit got more dramatic with Doc and Texas Jack, who got shot off his horse and surrounded in real life.
You ever seen anything like that before?
Hell I ain't never even heard of anything like that.
It's the same moron every thread spitting the same words but only just enough to make them seem legit.
pacing
editing
acting
script/writing
It's bullshit and unsupported every time and they do this in EVERY. SINGLE. THREAD. Idk why, other than needing (You).
hey, fren wanna go shoot them up at the OK coral? You are on shotgun, they might be less nervy with a drunken butthole poker cheat on the howister.
>drunken butthole poker cheat
What an awful thing to say to me.
Age quod agis
Ixnay on the hombre.
Let the israelite Apella believe it, not me
Temet nosce.
>x264
No. 265 is superior in every way.
Juventus stultorum magister
>Mentioning Priestly
>leaving out Thomas Haden Church
fix this shit now you fricking prick
lol forgot about him because he's fricking forgettable.
Robert Mitchum? Stephen Lang? Michael Rooker? Billy Zane? Thomas Haden Church?
THOMAS STINKING HADEN CHURCH?!?!
He also left out this kino machine. In a timeline not ruled over by demons, this homie has his own Cable trilogy.
How the frick could you forget Billy Zane
Holy shit. It just never stops. Who else was in this we haven't listed yet?
>i hate living in the creative wasteland of current content
>i'll just shit on things that came out before I was born
fricking lmao
>ywn have tuberculosis
why even live?
Anyone happen to know if this is still the best version available? I was going to make a bunch of new VP9 webms from the movie but I want to make sure I have the best quality version first
>Tombstone.1993.1080p.BluRay.x264-AVCHD
>Tombstone 1993 1080p BluRay x264 DTS-HD MA 5.1- Zen_BluRG
>16.4 GB
Took me awhile to find it. Rips have been shit and hard to find for Tombstone for years for some reason. Maybe it's because it's so kino that a lot of homosexuals own in legit. 4K is FINALLY coming this fall, though, so you can wait for that and keep your fingers crossed it doesn't look like grainy shit.
Can’t believe it’s taken this long to release a 4k. Wtf is wrong with these morons.
Disney
>4k is coming
Okay thanks I'll wait for that then
who would win on the wild west frontier the texas rangers or the pinkertons?
Texas Rangers give no shits I would bet on them via numbers and also not tolerating any bullshit
Texas Ranger and it's not even close, Pinkertons were just assassins and hired thugs.
Texas rangers obviously if the numbers were equal. Pinkertons were city-slickers that had strenght in numbers and tremendous resources backing them.
that and texas rangers were battle hardened veterans that worked closely with indian tribes to hunt commanches and were expert trackers, they also had a tight-knit group with the governments in the territories. they were basically commanche's with a badge.
people forget how awful the commanches were. they were fricking brutal.
I haven't forgotten anon. I will never forget
Texas became a state because of the Mexican government's inability to safeguard against the Commanches.
No it wasn't homosexual, a group of patriots from Tennessee Left their wives and said frick this lets go take over these mexicans fast forward 5 yrs and they did. Mexico couldn't take Texas you ignoramus
I really don't think boomers relate that strongly to dying gunfighters
frick boomers
Nah, Doc Holliday (rightfully) hated israelites too much
I've been trying to find more on this and failing miserably. Please give a qrd
I mean be had a falling out with Wyatt over calling him a israelite-boy
satan pls
>tfw all you ever wanted was to sit in a cozy saloon and larp as Doc Holiday with randos playing poker
>Rockstar turns the game into GTA: Wild West griefing simulator shitshow
>then abandons the game
griefing was the only way to have fun in that shitty game
Doc Holliday was a griefer in the movie.
I guess I should be more specific. Being able to ambush people in the wilderness is entirely kino. There is a push/tackle/grapple mechanic that lets you run up on random players and push them off cliffs and many treasures are located on the side of steep drops. Nothing has ever been more satisfying to me than pulling that off. You can also rope them and throw them off bridges or feed them to alligators. Griefing can absolutely be fun in RDO.
What I was specifically referring to was places like saloons and the cities and towns where the ambiance can get ruined in an instant.
yeah I know, I like the single player game. I just hunt animals and skin them most of the time or fish between helping some lady getting robbed by a gang that always attacks me.
yeah i tried to target simgays with a mic because they'd seethe the hardest
>yeah i tried to target simgays with a mic because they'd seethe the hardest
The smart ones moved to bootleg RP servers on PC. Anyone trying to do that on console deserves to get bullied.
The extent at which these fricking morons mishandled online is beyond infuriating.
Also the singleplayer story is good but massively overrated and the morality system is a fricking joke
Cost-Benefit analysis. Simple as. They would always make more return on every $1 spent by putting that money into GTAO or GTA VI. The game will get a re-launch for next gen consoles after GTA VI, probably with Mexico expansion and new narrative content but it'll be pushing 10 years after the original game was released.
If they had done the game right the first time they probably wouldn't have been able to test certain code for GTA VI's online, which was the entire point of RDO in the first place. There is a reason the game was released as a "beta" and it was so nonsensically designed. Just testing code for GTA.
>Cost-Benefit analysis. Simple as
They still went about their dripfeed in the most moronic way possible. There are like 15 unique horse coats they never even ported from sp to mp when they could have charged gold for all of them
You know what else is great benefit for your money? When your billion-dollar game is made fun of by millions as a loading-simulator, you try to fricking fix it instead of ignoring it for 8 years until some modder realizes your billion dollar game is loading things as inefficiently as fricking possible.
People always say rockstar is doing what makes the most money, but in reality they are still horribly fricking up a ton of things that most certainly reduced their potential profits
They're bad at online. They were a decade late in even getting into it. I just think you can be bad at online AND only concerned with making money online. The two aren't mutually exclusive. That's why GTAO being "successful" was a big problem for them. It (along with the political/cultural changes of the Obama era) ruined them. Undone by their own success and put in the position where the things they're actually good at are less important than the things they aren't.
The best part was watching him get more and more psychotic as he got sicker to the point where even the tough guys were starting to get unsettled.
no, that was Wyatt Earp. Doc Holliday represents Chad Millennials.
Doc Holliday knew that he was dying and wasn't scared of death. So he encouraged everyone that wasn't terminal to try and kill him and made them understand their own mortality. He was basically the drunk at the bar that tries to fight everybody.
yep, nothing is scarier than trying to be scary to someone that has nothing to lose, also doc holliday was a sophisticated gentlemen from the aristocracy of the south.
There are no historical records of Ringo's death. He just disappeared. Also they never challenged Wyatt Earp to a duel, they were running scared at that point and Earp wasn't going to give them legitimacy to a gun fight at noon behind a tree.
Man Val Kilmer should have gotten an Oscar for that one. Incredible performance. Fricking stole that whole movie.
*ahem*
well, bye
God is not mocked, Cy.
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Must be a peach of a thread.
I'm (You)r huckleberry
The earp's were gangsters with a badge, they were fricking pieces of shit irl.
reddit comment
You guys like room service?
The way you post...
>I stand corrected Wyatt you are and oakie from muskogee
What did doc mean by this? Wyatt never lived in Oklahoma.
Check the subs. He says "You're Ann Oak" as-in famed American sharpshooter Annie Oakley. He was saying Wyatt is a good shot.
he called him an Oak, as in an Oak tree that stands firm in it's place hard against the elements.
Listen, Mr. Kansas Law Dog. Law don't go around here. Savvy?
breh, I'm retired now fr fr
that "x265 10-bit" looks grainy as frick, dude. x264 for the win.
>Disc Title: Tombstone 1993 1080p BluRay x264 DTS-HD MA 5.1- Zen@BluRG
>Length: 2:09:37 (h:m:s)
>Size: 18.5 Gb
>Total Bitrate: 20.4 Mbps
Yeah I have an 8gb one which was the best I could find at the time. I'd swap now but apparently we are finally getting 4k so I'll just wait for that one.
It was joke. They're identical other than the x265 being half the size.
>half the size
>same quality
oh ok
Too little butter spread over too much toast.
It also depends on the source of the encode and who encoded it as to what kind of quality you get.
this is what Wyatt Earp looked like IRL, he looks like a sadistic mother fricker.
Hard times make hard men.
go back
>i'm your huckleberry
what did he mean by this
he meant 'hey butthole, you ain't shit and I'll kill you right here and right now pussy'
yeah pretty much this, but also more intimidating unlike that string of profanity that zoomers use today to pick a fight.
huckle-bearer was a term for people carrying a coffin in the south.
>huckle-bearer
This was debunked on Cinemaphile you fricking tourist
source???
He was saying "I'm Urhuk El Bari", which was the identity he assumed during a string of adventures in Arab lands many years prior.
Ben Affleck posts here?
My fights not with you Doc
I beg to differ, we are playing for blood.
I was just foolin' about
I wasn't
say when
>Is this the "he's literally me" for boomers?
Maybe if they're prostitute fricking alcoholics.
Doc wasn't me but Texas Jack Vermillion in real life was absolutely me.
>Huckleberries hold a place in archaic American English slang. The phrase "a huckleberry over my persimmon" was used to mean "a bit beyond my abilities." "I'm your huckleberry" is a way of saying that one is just the right person for a given job.[9] The range of slang meanings of huckleberry in the 19th century was broad, also referring to significant persons or nice persons.[10][11]
My bet was on Huck Finn reference of some type. I was wrong? Still uncertain.
>I'm your huckleberry" is a way of saying that one is just the right person for a given job
yeah this is known, but youtubers made zoomers moronic for views.
didn't tom sawyer trick huckleberry finn into painting his moms fence before he ran off with Black person jim?
I don't know I didn't read it. Literally sitting beside me for nearly ten years and I haven't picked it up. I always feel like I'm saving it for the right time...
breh if you never read Mark Twain, you really should.
That's what everyone always says but I can only read it the first time once.
Huckleberry was a deep south word of that era for 'I will get the job done"
>but why the word huckleberry
because it was what children would use as an excuse to get out of hard work to pick huckleberries, Doc means that killing Johnny Ringo would be an easy and simple task
holy shit, zoomers don't even know lingo that I knew as a child.
I have seen Wyatt Earp's 'Peacemaker' pistols in a museum I think it was in Wyoming. I wanted to start a youtube channel about it and then realized I'd have to use an anime avatar.
you are thinking of Cody, Wyoming. They have Wild BIll Hickocks .45 navy revolvers.
they also have the gatling gun used in Giranamo's last battle.
Johnny Ringo, You're no daisy, no daisy at all...
Poor soul, he was just too high strung
>too high strung
what does this mean, I'm a zoomer btw if that means anything
high strung string instruments snap because of the tension
zoomies have never played a stringed instrument so they will never know.
Doc Holliday was a southern aristocrat, his parents were rich plantation owners and he had access to the highest levels of education and art that money could afford, he didn't become 'Doc Holliday' until he got tuberculosis that was untreatable in that age. Knowing that he was going to die he went around the country being a shitty gambler, ran in with the Earp's that got in on a racket together, they separated ways for a few years before reuniting in Tombstone, where the Earp's tried to establish a gambling racket and Doc was their card shark.
DON'T ANY OF YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO PLAY FOR DUBS?!
>when the drunk frick with a death wish at the bar calls you out
264 jumps frames. Instead of, say, a smooth motion like a hand waving or a car moving along, the 264 one skips frames. It's extremely noticeable in panning and zooming shots. Watch as the treeline stutters into the foreground. Or, instead of sliding past, the background behind the car skips past. Dut. Dut. Dut. Dut. I can't unsee it.
>handwave
Like those neon signs in Vegas.
>participate in a tombstone discussion
>go to bar as usual
>girls has jonny ringo and doc holliday tattoos
I always knew the universe revolved around me. So I am already dead and in hell.
Tell her you're her huckleberry. Her barstool will be saturated.
I did, she invited me to a rodeo
>You died, this is hell, and I'm the devil
alright devil, send that b***h over to frick me again.
it's the temptation of corruption, the devil only want's to own your soul. don't do it.