https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Hot-Stuf/Issue-8?id=185710#3
I mean 1978, I haven't seen anything older.
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Is this the oldest manga/anime parody?
I don't get it.
Don't pay Godzilla, he smashes your house.
There's no info about the dudes who drew this but man it's spot on with Tezuka style.
Godizilla is selling cookies, he smashes the house if they don't buy any.
Me too first post senpai.
Smeet??
have a nice day.
This is almost certainly traced from Tezuka manga,that character is way too spot-on. I know there was a Kinokuniya japanese bookstore in New York that carried manga, that's where Larry Hama discovered Lone Wolf And Cub in the early 70s and passed it to other cartoonists. These dudes either found some Tezuka in that same store or were stationed in a japanese base or something like that.
Neat find regardless
I found this a few years back and posted it but no one cared lol and as for traced...maybe but even if it is, still has these guys unique style to it and not a complete copy of it and actually their style is nice.
Might be
it's so weird how I can't find anything from the authors or from this Sal Quartuccio guy... some fly-by-night underground operation yet he got peak Neal Adams to do a cover? goddamn
That's how lot of these pre-80's indie books work that aren't related to underground crowd, wild stuff.
Another point to the traced theory, no american in the 70s would not be racist at drawing Japanese.
Well it helps when the Japanese characters are extremely stylized to the point you can't tell their races.
That's just Lamp, what the frick?
I would go with the Japonesque period of french art.
That's before modern manga was a thing and it's not an parody.
I wouldn't call "An overt reverence for a form of art that was only recently discovered and engrossed Europeans for both its complexity and total lack of continuity with their own established canons" a parody.
Why would I read a parody when I can read the real thing?
Because it's a piece of comic history and sometimes parodies are more enjoyable than the real thing or just as if you know the context in which it's making fun of the work. Stop being foolish anon just for some quick kicks.
This not some idiotic east vs west thread, this a thread for talking about different early subjects in the comic medium and things related to it.
>Because it's a piece of comic history
I don't really care.
>sometimes parodies are more enjoyable than the real thing or just as if you know the context in which it's making fun of the work.
Parodies are 99% of the times used by hacks that can't make something original themselves(not saying that it's the case here)
You're just baiting because your bored, go read some Mad and have fun, see ya later.
I know about mad you fricking idiot. 10 examples in a sea of 1000000 counter examples just proves that you are a braindead moron. God, this site is filled with morons.
See...already spreging, I knew it.
Damn...there's old 80's comic that copies his style too, I can't for the life of me remember the name.
Of course you won't engage further you brainless monkey.
https://totaleclipse.blog/2018/05/27/1987-radio-boy/
I did find this thing though.
>Rook out!
Jesus.
It's like more racist version of Hero Boy lmao.
This shows where animated in Japan, what do you think it was like for the Japanese animators to receive basically a minute and a half of a big middle finger to their animations and icons in storyboard form and be forced to animate it?
>what do you think it was like for the Japanese animators to receive basically a minute and a half of a big middle finger to their animations and icons in storyboard form and be forced to animate it?
Probably just drew it then went to lunch. They aren't really sanctimonious people for the most part. If any thought it was in poor taste, the "job's a job" mentality overtook it.
Also the Japanese tend to occasionally acknowledge how janky older animation can be for humor. Like that one 60's anime that became a meme.
This, honestly Japanese people don't think about these kinda things, lot them rather passive, I doubt they even get some of the joke.
>How do we communicate we are copying Japanese style?
>Make them racist caricatures.
Classic Chuck Dixon.
Who exactly were these faux manga suppose to appeal to?
You Will Never Be A Manga
Well that's an parody but work like Dirty Pair is all we had back then because manga was yet translated.
Also sometimes it's interesting seeing an amateur take on something like there's kinda an appeal to the roughness, shame Adam Warren choices to draw in unappealing style for a long time, the books before that style look alright.
I think Adam Warren is an acquired taste, I like his stuff now, both technically and aesthetic.
>manga was yet translated.
There was NO Dirty Pair manga when Warren was adapting it. He liked the OVA and wanted to draw more of them.
Dirty Pair was actually a light novel to begin with
Huh, news to me.
Wow, that's awful. What's sad is that not much has changed when it comes to anime parodies.
Good blog though, nice to see this guy keep log of all these different publishers.
thing is that most cartoon and comics writers only have a vague, arthritic, and shallow grasp of the anime and manga they parody
Its definitely Tezuka inspired.
Some anon once posted the cover of some old Australian indie comic that had a spot on Tezuka artsyle. Wish I would've saved it
I got you covered, anon.
https://australiancomicsdb.com.au/white-dog-3/
Yoooooo that's the one
is there more
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I have a Three part head on Cyber Ghidora idea involving Unit-04 EVA series.
Tezuka was a huge Disney fanboy, he liked drawing characters that were obvious references to Disney characters like the Fire Monk in Buddha who looks like long lost brother of Grumpy Dwarf.
Actually I think that is the guy who gets fricked over in Hinotori. This is the Kenny of the Tezuka verse in every story he is in he gets fricked in one way or another.
at least his 1st incarnation got a good nut inside the fallen princess
Buddha is such a good story.
Astro Boy and Speed Racer would've been widely known at that time
Kimba, 8 Man, and Marine Boy less widely known, but still a sizeable exposure
I'm aware but I wonder if this is the oldest parody? I don't know anything older.
Why is Cinemaphile so obsessed with Cinemaphile when over they're they don't think of us at all?
Lack of popular, well liked things coming out recently to talk about.
My Hero Academia is basically this thread on reverse
inferiority complex
This thread only related to Cinemaphile in that this is parody of manga but that's it also they been talking about us lot lately. I'm interested in the early works of different things this is no different.
Our moderation is more lax, they think of us and just come here instead of getting banned for off-topic posting on Cinemaphile, they think of us as much as we think of them
did they used to have cartoon cons like this
There’s some animation cons, many of them got rolled over into comic cons
>studio that must not be named
sheesh, no normal con, they even had matsumoto here
Does it weird anyone else to see western anime fandom stuff from before you were born? It really shouldn't by all means- I have family members who watched anime in the 80's and early 90's, and my best friend's dad is a comic nerd and weeb who raised his kids watching anime OVAs( so his oldest daughter is a sterotypical NJ Italian woman with fake boobs...who really likes The Guyver)
But modern anime fandom seems so divorced from anything before the 2000's it's almost surreal.
>modern anime fandom seems so divorced from anything before the 2000's
What do you mean? In my opinion, modern anime fandom revolves around the 90's, like things may come and go but the 90's are always there.
No
Its because you had to actual go out of your way and find people who like what you like also you need money to buy things in your hobby even if fansubbed vs just streaming or torrenting, so lot of early anime fans are just like regular people kinda nerdy but they had lives.
If you did have a friend group though, it was pretty common to share and trade tapes. Quality was often dubious and prices were high
the time before excessive demand of moe turned anime characters into inbred pugs.
Damn, thay sounds cozy.
It's kinda sad comic/anime cons are just everything ''nerdy'' lump together now and not all their own things.
I guess
do people still even print these small comic anthologies anymore?
I'm sure there's some indie one no one knows but the 70's to 90's ones are always interesting.
I miss 90s weeb fanart so bad