It really is. It recaps each of the main four characters' journey while also suggesting that the more things change the more they stay the same. Then the ballsy cut to black leaving their fate open ended suggests that despite the mafia thing, we were watching an ordinary family that doesn't know what the future brings just like the average viewer
It really is. It recaps each of the main four characters' journey while also suggesting that the more things change the more they stay the same. Then the ballsy cut to black leaving their fate open ended suggests that despite the ordinary family thing, we were watching an mafia boss's loved ones that don't know their father/husband is about to decorate the onion rings with his brain matter just like the average viewer
No, it’s cowardly. They couldn’t write a satisfying ending and were too afraid of the negative response so they wrote an ambiguous ending hoping people would imagine their own preferred resolution.
How is it ambiguous? Tony gets killed, Paulie betrayed him and will become the new capo. Life after death doesn't exist. It could hardly be communicated more clearly.
Untrue, they are all illusions and hallucinations of the characters. Once Tony gets shot it's all over, blackness, series end because his consciousness gets snuffed out. That's what the makers tried to communicate.
It's metaphorical you idiot. I thought that lack of media literacy was a meme, but apparently there really are people as clueless as this guy.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>media literacy
You just lost the argument.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's irrelevant what you think. You are not even able to understand tv.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i'm the anon you responded too initially this one
>Life after death doesn't exist.
their are literal ghosts in sopranos
nope most obvious example this is from no living characters pov, no-one sees him but us the audience
and that anon is right, you've already lost you spout catch phrases like "media literacy" and refuse to take a scene like the ghost no-one sees on its own merits you've already swallowed some yt shit blogger and will ignore any and all evidence to the contrary because your simplistic mind has already been shaped by equally simplistic yt drones. In short you are incapable of forming your own opinion and hats worse you firmly stick by the view of your favorite equally braindead talking head that told you what the "right" interpretation was.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Incredibly dumb reply. Ghosts do not exist, you'd have to understand that first. Then you'd need to understand the word metaphor and what a visual metaphor is. 3 giant jumps for a brain like you obviously possess, so I'm not holding my breath.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
this is a fictional show about fictional characters, in this fictional show ghosts and a supernatual element exists, you idiot frog posting moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Tell me one thing a ghost does in sopranos and one thing a ghost does in the shield then. A haunting that cannot be explained by a natural cause.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>what ghosts do
huh? wtf makes you like they do anything? what? Lem visits Mick and the squad and looks on them with regret and dispair, he doesn't go up he doesn't go down he just goes away, as for the sopranos the ghosts don't even interact withthe living characters almost ever they jut watch and dispair on what their lives have wrought wtf made you think they would ever "do" >one thing a ghost does
did you think this was buffy of something? they don't "do" anything they are simply there
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>G..ghosts are real! B... But they don't do anything and nobody can tell they are there and visual metaphors don't exist. I am not dumb, y... You are!
See, I told you you were moronic. But nobody ever realizes they are stupid, they always find ways to rationalize why they were right all along. You are a sad little man, but I don't pity you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ghosts are just ghosts and don't do anything >nah uh they should be like in muh vampire shows and horror movies what do you mean ghosts are just their and watch on sadly
damn you are seriously fricking stupid, not everything is a horror movie you child
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ghosts are real in the shows we are discussing you spastic braindead fedora tipping moron who gets triggered at any suggestion of the supernatual again, FICTIONAL, do you understand you are discussing FICTION?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'll just treat all of you morons as the same person, too much effort to click on all of you dummies' post numbers. I don't even have anything to say anymore, the argument has obviously been won as can be seen by how you losers sperg out on this. I just want to reiterate my point that you are incredibly stupid virgins who are so dumb they can't even follow tv : ) keep seething (but watch out for them ghosts under your beds!!!)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so no agument, sopranos and the shield had ghosts, you are incabale of understanding the idea that ghosts and supernatual elements can exist withen a story without being a focus they are simply their, got it you lack basic comprehension, also you are triggered by any suggestion of the supernatual in what you might refer to as "grounded" shows, no really we got it, keep on tipping that fedora buddy and please try and remember this are fictional stories about fictional people and not all stories with the supernatural are like your zoomie "horror" movies.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Such a lack of insight is unfortunately typical for people like you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol you fedoras really are pathetic, instead of accepting you are wrong and looking into the story further you double down on your idiocy refusing to accept anything but the story you've been told by your favorite yt gay its really sad
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>y... You wear a fedora and your I... Opinions come from a youtuber and... And...
Pure headkino. But you tend to do that. You also believe that the sopranos is a show about a haunting. Keep seething.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
can I just post the word fedora again to trigger you? or does ghost do it? its fricking hilarious, i'm sorry dumb anon ghosts exist is sopranos and the shield and their is literally nothing you can do about it >b-but muh supernatural event
what the ever loving frick were you babbling about? did you expect the ghosts to rise up and kill the living what kind of delusions do you labor under?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You don't realize that ghosts are supernatural yes, that's what I tried to explain to you before I realized your intelligence is subnormal. Now I just enjoy making you reformulate the same post again and again, like a seething automaton. Go one more time, boy:
There is not a single shot in the sopranos that depicts a ghost. There are shots of dead people symbolizing their memories haunting the characters of the show, it's called a visual metaphor. In the world of the sopranos ghosts are not real and by the cutting to blackness and the show ending after Tony's death the makers heavily imply that in their estimation a life after death does not exist.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I showed you one you complete idiot its right here
nope most obvious example this is from no living characters pov, no-one sees him but us the audience
you fricking moron, the ghosts have no agency they are not integral to your "plot" they simply exist in the story you didn't get me to reformulate my post again and again you got me to call youa fricking moron again and again as you posting stupid shit over and over because the idea that this show has actual supernatural elements in it really makes you super upset so go tip your fricking fedora dumbfrick
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You really keep going xD
Again: that shot does not show a ghost.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no its not a show about ghosts however their are ghosts in this show, I know that baffles your tiny brain
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yes it does show a ghost I know this makes your small brain no doubt compressed and moronic by excessive fedora wearing frea the frick out, but it really does, thats a ghost a ghost in sopranos, you need to learn to deal with that.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
are you pretending to be moronic?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No he really is that stupid.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No he really is that stupid.
no you really are that moronic, as I said much earlier this thread you ignore hard evidence in favor of your pig headed denial because you simply can't accept the superatual aspect of the show and it makes you furiously angry, fricking fedoras, you are the most simplistic braindead morons ever no objectivity at all just pigheaded >nah ah are you saying ghosts exist? >i'm saying they exist in the show >so where is the zombie apocalypse?
.>ah no I'm just saying ghosts exist in this show >I didn't see any horror where ghosts are murdering sorority girls >Wat? no this isn't a 90s horror movie its just ghosts and the supernatural are a thing in this show >b-but where is the supernatural event? I didn't see a blue sky beam?
it is almost physically painful conversing with you idiot fedora tourists
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ghosts are not real. They are also not real in the Sopranos. There is nothing supernatural going on in the sopranos ever, it's all just human psychology. That's one of the fundamental themes of the show. Low iq viewers will project their superstitions on everything though.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How did the medium know about the poison ivy, Mikey, and Charles Pagano?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Psychics aren't real, they are also not real in the show "the sopranos". Psychics are con-men using research and cold reading to make it seem they know things they couldn't know. Some people are so lost in their moronic superstitious joke of a world view they don't accept this explanation and will argue that supernatural psychics exist.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He doesn’t do any cold reading to get to the Paulie itching from poison ivy. He also doesn’t do any cold reading to get to So my being his “first”. Both of these statements are completely out of the blue. So I’ll ask again be because apparently you’re having trouble reading: how did the psychic know about Mikey and the poison Ivey? How did he know about Charles Pagano being his “first”?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>So my being his “first”
Sonny being his “first”
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Charles Pagano
He says his full name right away too. Literally impossible for that to be cold reading.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
True. Also the “he wants to know if it still itches” line proves something supernatural was going on
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Notice how this posts gets ignored by the smug redditor. He should just accept that he got BTFO and move on with his life.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you guys were not blinkered by your stupidity you would have been able to see that I did not just write cold reading. The "psychic" was OBVIOUSLY briefed beforehand. The statement that "nobody could have known about that" is a TYPICAL thing fools say that have been duped by fortune tellers. You guys are childlike in your naivete.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Briefed by who? He had info on murders that only Paulie, Tony, Chrissy, Pussy and Sil would have been privy to. Just admit that you're a fricking moron and stop responding.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The "psychic" was OBVIOUSLY briefed beforehand.
Briefed by who and why? He kicks Paulie out. If he was briefed and trying to scam him why kick him out?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
IT was clearly part of the plan. (in which episode does he go to the fortune teller btw, I don't even remember that scene)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Season 2 episode 9
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Respond to this post Black person
Briefed by who? He had info on murders that only Paulie, Tony, Chrissy, Pussy and Sil would have been privy to. Just admit that you're a fricking moron and stop responding.
Who could possibly have briefed the psychic?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No idea, do I remember every episode of sopranos? I'm not a dork. I'll have to re-watch it.
Obviously someone benefitted from what happened after that fortune telling, just watch the show and it will be made clear. Only one thing is for sure: I was not a creepy ghostie
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So you dont even know what you're talking about, got it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'll have to rewatch it, yeah. btw do you think ade Was a ghost in the end when she was in Marcellas (or whatever the wife was called) Dream?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>No idea, do I remember every episode of sopranos? I'm not a dork. I'll have to re-watch it.
Why are you making such strong claims if you don’t even remember what happens in the episode?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's just fun to make you nerds seethe. I do it on the side, like a mini game.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well I’m not seething anymore because you just admitted your game. I feel like I won. You shouldn’t have given up the game
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your feelings and tactics to make yourself feel in any way are irrelevant to me. I also post much more interesting pictures than any of you guys btw, this was supposed to be an image board.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That’s cool. I still won though
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your little admittance that you did indeed seethe made it worth it all by itself btw.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah but I won in the end so now I feel great. Thanks for the concession
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
As I said, whatever you need to tell yourself, I wholeheartedly agree with. We'll always have the seethe, that's enough for me.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your concession made it all worth it 🙂
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Obviously someone benefitted
I'm what way? Paulie doesn't even tell anyone except Tony and his priest that he went to see a psychic. Try to actually watch the episodes you're arguing about before commenting on them, you Indian redditor piece of shit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am not Indian, I am German.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sure thing Pajeet
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh no, he called me pajeet even though I am German. Him being wrong about my nationality is vexing to me. I guess.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No one cares refugee
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
IT was clearly part of the plan. (in which episode does he go to the fortune teller btw, I don't even remember that scene)
(You) # >Respond to this post Black person
Why would I respond to it? I wrote it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the real world explanation in the show is the goomar who recommended the psychic to paulie fed the guy info beforehand. that said the psychic is legit and ghosts are present in the show
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you are intensely stupid the shot anon keeps posting is seen by no-one in the show keep pretending it doesn't exist though, you idiot
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the sopranos is a show about a haunting
and here is a perfect example lmao no its simply a part of the world by no means a major part or anything the characters are even aware of, as I said a touch of the supernatual and you think the entire show is >what you think this is a show about ghosts?
its hilarious and pretty weird, its not a major part of either shows its simply a part of both shows a minor part at most, but even the hint of anything supernatural and you lose your shit, as I said a quintessential fedora tipping moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
and you post turd, says it all really, don't you ever give up on embarrassing yourself? or does your hero ms turd keep you digging? keep on digging fedoranon you'll dig yourself out one of these days
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ESL moron.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>so illiterate he is unable to parse obviously native English and calls it ESL
Is it possible for regular people to unlock this power?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I-I'm not an ESL saar, I swear,
Frick off pajeet. Your complete lack of reading comprehension is all the evidence we need
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Shut the frick off kid, I already told you the argument are won and you’re dumbasses aren’t able to make any kind of counterargument.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Shut the frick off kid, I already told you the argument are won and you’re dumbasses aren’t able to make any kind of counterargument.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Shut the frick off kid, I already told you the argument are won and you’re dumbasses aren’t able to make any kind of counterargument.
How can you make so many errors in one short post and still claim you're not an ESL? have a nice day Ranjeesh.
I accepting your concession.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I accepting your concession.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Shut the frick off kid, I already told you the argument are won and you’re dumbasses aren’t able to make any kind of counterargument.
How can you make so many errors in one short post and still claim you're not an ESL? have a nice day Ranjeesh.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's obviously not me btw, but even that lame pseudo indian fooled you guys. You only see what you want to see.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>t-that’s not me!!
ESL dumbass.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Easily duped. Go see a psychic and be amazed.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Avatargayging
Absolute cancer.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not that guy, don't know the show either, just always found it hilarious when people misread a post as ESL
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol moron, no it wasn't, but yes tony died in the end, to reiterate ghosts are real, tony died, stay braindead
Psychics are con men. Are you really that moronic that you don't know that? And you belive that in the world of the sopranos fortune tellers are real? Don't you understand how that would change the entire universe? Why would they be fortune tellers and not just lottery winners?
You are really unintelligent.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay then how did some random psychic know about Mikey and the poison ivy? How did he know about Paulie’s first kill? If there weren’t ghosts explain how he knows
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Are you caught in some kind of time loop or something? You just asked that you moron xD
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then why can’t you answer?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I did you absolute fricking mongoloid, you're just too dumb even to read apparently
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>still cant answer
I accept your concession
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are the unintelligent one here. That anon is not arguing that psychics are not con men in real life. He's (correctly) pointing out that the fortune teller in that episode knows too many details for it to be "cold reading". As far as we can tell, psychics and ghosts are real in the Sopranos universe.
>DUDE TONY WAS THE BAD GUY SO YOU DON'T DESERVE TO CHEER ON HIS DEATH AND VIOLENCE WHEN YOU CHEERED HIM AND HIS MOB BUDDIES CAUSING DEATH AND VIOLENCE LMAO
Bravo, Chase-ari!
Nobody, even in fiction, could be stupid enough to put Paulie in charge
It was admirable to end the Sopranos after 7 seasons instead of milking it, it was beginning to wear thin. Also Tony getting whacked was something likely to happen, they could have tried to "subvert expectations" with an arc with Tony going through legal troubles and snitching to the FBI or going straight or something, but I think this was the best option in keeping with the "reality throwing a curve ball" theme of the Sopranos.
AJ, for example, everyone hates him, but that character was meant to be that way, he was meant to annoy Tony, annoy the audience with his pettiness, and you see glimmers of why this is, his lack of enthusiasm even when he wins at football. The Sopranos would be a very different show if it were just an edgy gangster comedy.
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unlikely, in other whackings in public places they kill the target only
[...]
It was Parisi obviously, he was playing the long game.
Bobby and Silvio were out of the picture, Tony was weak, Parisi was the most respected and intelligent caporegime and willing to throw his son under the bus unlike Gervaisi and he had a motive of course. Everything fits, it all comes into play in this legendary final episode.
It was Phil. It was literally just Phil. Why do fans overcomplicate this? Phil put out hits on New Jersey's top 3 guys; Bobby, Sil and Tony. Then he died before the last hit was carried out.
Throughout the series we're shown time and time again that major hits are performed by 3rd parties, like black guys, Italians or hitmen. Once you send those orders out there's no way to reliably cancel them. It was fricking Phil.
Phil goes on the lamb and then gives the orders down to Butchie and the other wop. It's their responsibility to then contract out the killing. to the hitmen. Butchie probably kept the order standing when Phil died because it was easier to kill Tony then deal with his fallout and as Phil said before he got wheeled, 'we'll deal with whatever's left in jersey'.
Also Butch probably didn't want to have to compensate that fat sow Tony called a sister for Bobby's death, lol.
It was admirable to end the Sopranos after 7 seasons instead of milking it, it was beginning to wear thin. Also Tony getting whacked was something likely to happen, they could have tried to "subvert expectations" with an arc with Tony going through legal troubles and snitching to the FBI or going straight or something, but I think this was the best option in keeping with the "reality throwing a curve ball" theme of the Sopranos.
AJ, for example, everyone hates him, but that character was meant to be that way, he was meant to annoy Tony, annoy the audience with his pettiness, and you see glimmers of why this is, his lack of enthusiasm even when he wins at football. The Sopranos would be a very different show if it were just an edgy gangster comedy.
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unlikely, in other whackings in public places they kill the target only
[...]
It was Parisi obviously, he was playing the long game.
Bobby and Silvio were out of the picture, Tony was weak, Parisi was the most respected and intelligent caporegime and willing to throw his son under the bus unlike Gervaisi and he had a motive of course. Everything fits, it all comes into play in this legendary final episode.
NY let Phil and Tony kill each other. THen they dealt with the winner, who happened to be Tony. Butchie's scenes are quite explicit.
Paulie sold Tony since it's clear he's buying from NY.
Bullshit. It was decided that Phil AND Tony need to go for there to be peace. Phil did not orchestrate it from the grave, no matter how much you bozos believe that ghosts are real.
it really fricks with you that ghosts are real in this story doesn't it? it really makes you seethe eh? let me guess your a fedora tipper and cannot stand even the idea that a show like this might have a supernatural element
If you believe some guy who thinks ghosts exist regurgitating some 15 year old insults invented by other people than him has any effect on me I have to disappoint you little buddy. Especially as I am 6,3, athletic, married and have a girlfriend
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Especially as I am 6,3, athletic, married and have a girlfriend
wow so super fricking butthurt at the idea sopranos has an actual supernatural element to it, that is hilarious, please continue your blog and keep tipping that fedora you ridiculous chucklefrick what does your any of this have to do with your intense butthurt over the ghosts in sopranos? tip away fedora-kun tip away
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>blabla
Whatever.
Still waiting, one example of a supernatural event caused by a ghost with no natural explanation in sopranos and the shield, go ahead.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>supernatural event
you are really fricking confused, this isn't the exorcist this isn't ead like me or supernatral just because ghosts exist in this narrative doesn't mean they have anyh agency what a bizzare attempt at an argument >uh the ghosts didn't invade and their wasn't any paranormal (2013) type jump scares uh a naked granny ghost didn't stab someone to death so uh their were no ghosts
no really you are a complete idiot and the fact that their were supernatural elements in these shows makes you unreasonably angry,you precious fedora tipping snowflake
Boss, whatever Tony is, who cares. Paulue was very dissatisfied with Tony's leadership and had contacts to new York going back a long time. Re-watch the last scene of Pauly and Tony together. He is either leaving to betray Tony or has already betrayed him. My guess would be they dangle being boss in front of him, but after Tony is dead it will be someone else, would fit the character.
Paulie completely lacks any semblance of self-sufficiency as is repeatedly shown throughout the show, he wouldn't be able to set up such a plot. He also never gave any indication that he even wants to be a boss.
In all likelihood the Bareses would take over. Ally running things as underboss until his brother gets out of prison. Patsy would probably end up as
either consigliere or promoted to capo of the Aprile crew, and Paulie would probably stay more or less the same. But he did express some interest in being boss when talking to Johnny at the end of season 3.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They would dangle being boss in front of him and then just step over him once Tony was dead. Would befit the character.
It was admirable to end the Sopranos after 7 seasons instead of milking it, it was beginning to wear thin. Also Tony getting whacked was something likely to happen, they could have tried to "subvert expectations" with an arc with Tony going through legal troubles and snitching to the FBI or going straight or something, but I think this was the best option in keeping with the "reality throwing a curve ball" theme of the Sopranos.
AJ, for example, everyone hates him, but that character was meant to be that way, he was meant to annoy Tony, annoy the audience with his pettiness, and you see glimmers of why this is, his lack of enthusiasm even when he wins at football. The Sopranos would be a very different show if it were just an edgy gangster comedy.
So all three died, right?
unlikely, in other whackings in public places they kill the target only
How is it ambiguous? Tony gets killed, Paulie betrayed him and will become the new capo. Life after death doesn't exist. It could hardly be communicated more clearly.
It was Parisi obviously, he was playing the long game.
Bobby and Silvio were out of the picture, Tony was weak, Parisi was the most respected and intelligent caporegime and willing to throw his son under the bus unlike Gervaisi and he had a motive of course. Everything fits, it all comes into play in this legendary final episode.
Funny thing is, AJ is one of the few characters in the Sopranos who actually tries to do something positive, he's the only one with a positive message at the end despite being sabotaged by his family all the time and he's still been hated because unlike the rest of the cast he's actually supposed to be an angsty teenager.
>cowardly
It's one of the bravest ending in tv.
You have no ideas on the balls of Chase to pull that one out.
Wanna see a cowardly ending? Breaking bad:
>cowardly
It's one of the bravest ending in tv.
You have no ideas on the balls of Chase to pull that one out.
Wanna see a cowardly ending? Breaking bad:
It was more lazy than 'cowardly'.
Sopranos ending wasn't 'lazy' despite what some might say. Merely anti-climatic
Everything that Walt did got wrapped up super neatly and nicely. It’s an ok ending, but it’s incredibly safe and almost feels like a fantasy.
Walt kills all the neo nazis, frees Jesse and gives millions of dollars to his family
Because it was the quintessential american conformistic ending.
Walter White is supposed to be a bad person, but Bravo VInce couldn't do that.. Every meaningful issue gets solved in a positive light. Walter is supposed to be a fricking loser, an instead right at the ending he gets revenge against his old buddies, a safety net for his son, saves Jessie, kills the evil nazi, has the time to die a cool death. No moral ambiguity whatsoever. The last episodes are basically BB turning into an action flick, with the very same depth. Btw season 4 had the same problem, unlike season 2.
The writer said that the cut to black was meant to simulate Tony's consciousness ending as a bullet passes through his brainpan. Tony is dead for sure, but the other characters are left ambiguous.
in the last scene every time the door opens it cuts to a first person view of the door from where tony is sitting
right before the cut to black the door chime rings (potentially meadow entering), implying that tony's first person view went black from getting domed. Bobby foreshadows the whole "you won't even know it happened" earlier in the season
I tried that ending in a middle school historical fiction I wrote about world war 1, the teacher was pissed, she wrote in red ‘why does it end so suddenly’. She was Catholic though so I imagine she would have preferred golden cherubs to carry the narrator up to God
The scene symbolizes his last meal even if only metaphorically
His israelite lawyer said there was an 80-90% chance he'd be indicted over all sorts of shit that would have got him in prison the rest of his life
His life as he knew it was about to be over no matter what
I like the one theory/actual cut ending from the show where Meadow stumbles out of the bathroom in front of the shooter and takes all the bullets in goofy dramatic way and dies in Tonys arms
I remember watching when it was broadcast and when the screen went black and the audio stopped, I honestly thought my cable tv had cut out until I changed channels.
At first I was pissed with the abrupt ending but afterward, realized this was a great ending as it got the point across that Tony had been whacked (probably by the guy in the Members Only jacket) without belaboring it with a lame scene where the family is crying and Tony is making some kinda final goodby to them.
>At first I was pissed with the abrupt ending but afterward, realized this was a great ending
I think this is probably the reaction that most people who aren't moronic had. I remember watching it live and also being pissed, but on rewatching the series it's perfect. They also have a flash back after Bobby dies of Tony thinking about the conversation they had about dying and Bobby says something along the lines of, "From your point of view everything probably just goes black" setting it up that then ending thematically represents Tony dying. Something overly dramatic also wouldn't fit the tone of the show.
It's definitely one of the better endings. I watched many series and don't even remember the ending of them. Except for Better Call Saul because it was a downer.
I always wonder what a modern or hacky tries-too-hard writer would do for the show >AJ realizes when Bobby and Sil get shot that he finally has to step up, and in a critical moment, he shoots down a NY hitman who broke into the Soprano house and all of a sudden isn't homosexual and gets tons of NY hitman kills >Meadow wins the case against Carlo testifying >Gunman in Holsten's jumps out of bathroom, but agent Harris runs in and shoots him down; claiming he knew it was going to happen
just finished this 2 days ago, what do I watch now? Preferably something with a less crushing, cancer rotting undertone. Dont wanna think about hospitals every 30 minutes.
>Hope you enjoyed your 86 hours lmao
Implying I only watched it once lol
I still watch the entire season every few years and occasionally turn on an episode here and there because it's comfy
I hate AJ so fricking much. Look at that little homosexual with his shit trimmed beard, he thinks he's so cool. They should have made his suicide attempt actually succeed
>And you belive that in the world of the sopranos fortune tellers are real? Don't you understand how that would change the entire universe? Why would they be fortune tellers and not just lottery winners?
I think you’re just pretending to be moronic at this point but the show never says he can read the future but that he’s a medium who can talk to ghosts. Not sure why you think he’d somehow be able to read the future
To this day people think there was any ambiguity when the entire last season was foreshadowing Tony’s death. It’s insane to me that people consider it “open-ended” or “open to interpretation”.
Funny thing is, Tony couldn't eat them. But in this scene, he does. He's already realized that he's been in purgatory all this time. And any minute now, the devil's angel is about to come for him.
you people always complain about bag tv show finales. but do you know any actually good finales? I feel like it's a taboo on tveddit to call any show ending good
I've known several women who have watched sopranos, including one i've watched with entirely
women can understand and break apart tonys character. even chris to an extent
but artie? not a chance. simply incomprehensible. the ultimate man character
Before youtube moron normies couldn't figure it out >members only jacket (literally the name of a season 6 ep, Eugene goofed on for wearing this jacket, he dies) >Bobby saying "you don't even hear it when it happens" (getting shot and killed) >members only jacket guy that keeps looking at Tony goes to the bathroom. Bathroom is located at Tony's 3 o'clock, which was Christophers warning
I always felt that the open ending was made because they weren't sure if they would keep making the show, I remember reading they were planning to take a break and then make a new season or make a movie but it fell through
now that James Gandolfini is dead I think Chase is saying Tony dies because he might as well go that way
Something special about the Sopranos was how the writing was able to capture a lot of the pointless, tangential bullshit of every day life. Stupid conversations you overhear, people dialed in on some meaningless minutia that relates to their job, main characters making odd connections in analogies or flubbing metaphors. Most other shows are "dialed in" when it comes to what they choose to focus on or what they have characters say, where everything feels more firm and precise. I think it's part of why the Sopranos is so endlessly quotable.
I’ll add that despite it not being dialed it, it doesn’t feel random or worthless. The conversations don’t always amount to much, but they’re worth listening to and move the characters
I knew how it ended before I ever saw the show so I think it's brilliant and yeah perfect. If I was watching it as it aired over like 7 years I'd probably be pissed though
No, it’s actually quite shit.
Yes. The seethe generated from it has been good.
It really is. It recaps each of the main four characters' journey while also suggesting that the more things change the more they stay the same. Then the ballsy cut to black leaving their fate open ended suggests that despite the mafia thing, we were watching an ordinary family that doesn't know what the future brings just like the average viewer
pretty sure the writers came out later and said the cut to black implies they all get murdered.
tony gets shot in front of his family in revenge for phil who got shot in front of his family
>DON'T STOP
>*stops*
It really is. It recaps each of the main four characters' journey while also suggesting that the more things change the more they stay the same. Then the ballsy cut to black leaving their fate open ended suggests that despite the ordinary family thing, we were watching an mafia boss's loved ones that don't know their father/husband is about to decorate the onion rings with his brain matter just like the average viewer
No, it’s cowardly. They couldn’t write a satisfying ending and were too afraid of the negative response so they wrote an ambiguous ending hoping people would imagine their own preferred resolution.
How is it ambiguous? Tony gets killed, Paulie betrayed him and will become the new capo. Life after death doesn't exist. It could hardly be communicated more clearly.
>Life after death doesn't exist.
their are literal ghosts in sopranos
Untrue, they are all illusions and hallucinations of the characters. Once Tony gets shot it's all over, blackness, series end because his consciousness gets snuffed out. That's what the makers tried to communicate.
nope most obvious example this is from no living characters pov, no-one sees him but us the audience
It's metaphorical you idiot. I thought that lack of media literacy was a meme, but apparently there really are people as clueless as this guy.
>media literacy
You just lost the argument.
It's irrelevant what you think. You are not even able to understand tv.
i'm the anon you responded too initially this one
and that anon is right, you've already lost you spout catch phrases like "media literacy" and refuse to take a scene like the ghost no-one sees on its own merits you've already swallowed some yt shit blogger and will ignore any and all evidence to the contrary because your simplistic mind has already been shaped by equally simplistic yt drones. In short you are incapable of forming your own opinion and hats worse you firmly stick by the view of your favorite equally braindead talking head that told you what the "right" interpretation was.
Incredibly dumb reply. Ghosts do not exist, you'd have to understand that first. Then you'd need to understand the word metaphor and what a visual metaphor is. 3 giant jumps for a brain like you obviously possess, so I'm not holding my breath.
this is a fictional show about fictional characters, in this fictional show ghosts and a supernatual element exists, you idiot frog posting moron
Tell me one thing a ghost does in sopranos and one thing a ghost does in the shield then. A haunting that cannot be explained by a natural cause.
>what ghosts do
huh? wtf makes you like they do anything? what? Lem visits Mick and the squad and looks on them with regret and dispair, he doesn't go up he doesn't go down he just goes away, as for the sopranos the ghosts don't even interact withthe living characters almost ever they jut watch and dispair on what their lives have wrought wtf made you think they would ever "do"
>one thing a ghost does
did you think this was buffy of something? they don't "do" anything they are simply there
>G..ghosts are real! B... But they don't do anything and nobody can tell they are there and visual metaphors don't exist. I am not dumb, y... You are!
See, I told you you were moronic. But nobody ever realizes they are stupid, they always find ways to rationalize why they were right all along. You are a sad little man, but I don't pity you.
>ghosts are just ghosts and don't do anything
>nah uh they should be like in muh vampire shows and horror movies what do you mean ghosts are just their and watch on sadly
damn you are seriously fricking stupid, not everything is a horror movie you child
ghosts are real in the shows we are discussing you spastic braindead fedora tipping moron who gets triggered at any suggestion of the supernatual again, FICTIONAL, do you understand you are discussing FICTION?
I'll just treat all of you morons as the same person, too much effort to click on all of you dummies' post numbers. I don't even have anything to say anymore, the argument has obviously been won as can be seen by how you losers sperg out on this. I just want to reiterate my point that you are incredibly stupid virgins who are so dumb they can't even follow tv : ) keep seething (but watch out for them ghosts under your beds!!!)
so no agument, sopranos and the shield had ghosts, you are incabale of understanding the idea that ghosts and supernatual elements can exist withen a story without being a focus they are simply their, got it you lack basic comprehension, also you are triggered by any suggestion of the supernatual in what you might refer to as "grounded" shows, no really we got it, keep on tipping that fedora buddy and please try and remember this are fictional stories about fictional people and not all stories with the supernatural are like your zoomie "horror" movies.
Such a lack of insight is unfortunately typical for people like you.
lol you fedoras really are pathetic, instead of accepting you are wrong and looking into the story further you double down on your idiocy refusing to accept anything but the story you've been told by your favorite yt gay its really sad
>y... You wear a fedora and your I... Opinions come from a youtuber and... And...
Pure headkino. But you tend to do that. You also believe that the sopranos is a show about a haunting. Keep seething.
can I just post the word fedora again to trigger you? or does ghost do it? its fricking hilarious, i'm sorry dumb anon ghosts exist is sopranos and the shield and their is literally nothing you can do about it
>b-but muh supernatural event
what the ever loving frick were you babbling about? did you expect the ghosts to rise up and kill the living what kind of delusions do you labor under?
You don't realize that ghosts are supernatural yes, that's what I tried to explain to you before I realized your intelligence is subnormal. Now I just enjoy making you reformulate the same post again and again, like a seething automaton. Go one more time, boy:
There is not a single shot in the sopranos that depicts a ghost. There are shots of dead people symbolizing their memories haunting the characters of the show, it's called a visual metaphor. In the world of the sopranos ghosts are not real and by the cutting to blackness and the show ending after Tony's death the makers heavily imply that in their estimation a life after death does not exist.
I showed you one you complete idiot its right here
you fricking moron, the ghosts have no agency they are not integral to your "plot" they simply exist in the story you didn't get me to reformulate my post again and again you got me to call youa fricking moron again and again as you posting stupid shit over and over because the idea that this show has actual supernatural elements in it really makes you super upset so go tip your fricking fedora dumbfrick
You really keep going xD
Again: that shot does not show a ghost.
no its not a show about ghosts however their are ghosts in this show, I know that baffles your tiny brain
yes it does show a ghost I know this makes your small brain no doubt compressed and moronic by excessive fedora wearing frea the frick out, but it really does, thats a ghost a ghost in sopranos, you need to learn to deal with that.
are you pretending to be moronic?
No he really is that stupid.
no you really are that moronic, as I said much earlier this thread you ignore hard evidence in favor of your pig headed denial because you simply can't accept the superatual aspect of the show and it makes you furiously angry, fricking fedoras, you are the most simplistic braindead morons ever no objectivity at all just pigheaded
>nah ah are you saying ghosts exist?
>i'm saying they exist in the show
>so where is the zombie apocalypse?
.>ah no I'm just saying ghosts exist in this show
>I didn't see any horror where ghosts are murdering sorority girls
>Wat? no this isn't a 90s horror movie its just ghosts and the supernatural are a thing in this show
>b-but where is the supernatural event? I didn't see a blue sky beam?
it is almost physically painful conversing with you idiot fedora tourists
Ghosts are not real. They are also not real in the Sopranos. There is nothing supernatural going on in the sopranos ever, it's all just human psychology. That's one of the fundamental themes of the show. Low iq viewers will project their superstitions on everything though.
How did the medium know about the poison ivy, Mikey, and Charles Pagano?
Psychics aren't real, they are also not real in the show "the sopranos". Psychics are con-men using research and cold reading to make it seem they know things they couldn't know. Some people are so lost in their moronic superstitious joke of a world view they don't accept this explanation and will argue that supernatural psychics exist.
He doesn’t do any cold reading to get to the Paulie itching from poison ivy. He also doesn’t do any cold reading to get to So my being his “first”. Both of these statements are completely out of the blue. So I’ll ask again be because apparently you’re having trouble reading: how did the psychic know about Mikey and the poison Ivey? How did he know about Charles Pagano being his “first”?
>So my being his “first”
Sonny being his “first”
>Charles Pagano
He says his full name right away too. Literally impossible for that to be cold reading.
True. Also the “he wants to know if it still itches” line proves something supernatural was going on
Notice how this posts gets ignored by the smug redditor. He should just accept that he got BTFO and move on with his life.
If you guys were not blinkered by your stupidity you would have been able to see that I did not just write cold reading. The "psychic" was OBVIOUSLY briefed beforehand. The statement that "nobody could have known about that" is a TYPICAL thing fools say that have been duped by fortune tellers. You guys are childlike in your naivete.
Briefed by who? He had info on murders that only Paulie, Tony, Chrissy, Pussy and Sil would have been privy to. Just admit that you're a fricking moron and stop responding.
>The "psychic" was OBVIOUSLY briefed beforehand.
Briefed by who and why? He kicks Paulie out. If he was briefed and trying to scam him why kick him out?
IT was clearly part of the plan. (in which episode does he go to the fortune teller btw, I don't even remember that scene)
Season 2 episode 9
Respond to this post Black person
Who could possibly have briefed the psychic?
No idea, do I remember every episode of sopranos? I'm not a dork. I'll have to re-watch it.
Obviously someone benefitted from what happened after that fortune telling, just watch the show and it will be made clear. Only one thing is for sure: I was not a creepy ghostie
So you dont even know what you're talking about, got it.
I'll have to rewatch it, yeah. btw do you think ade Was a ghost in the end when she was in Marcellas (or whatever the wife was called) Dream?
>No idea, do I remember every episode of sopranos? I'm not a dork. I'll have to re-watch it.
Why are you making such strong claims if you don’t even remember what happens in the episode?
It's just fun to make you nerds seethe. I do it on the side, like a mini game.
Well I’m not seething anymore because you just admitted your game. I feel like I won. You shouldn’t have given up the game
Your feelings and tactics to make yourself feel in any way are irrelevant to me. I also post much more interesting pictures than any of you guys btw, this was supposed to be an image board.
That’s cool. I still won though
Your little admittance that you did indeed seethe made it worth it all by itself btw.
Yeah but I won in the end so now I feel great. Thanks for the concession
As I said, whatever you need to tell yourself, I wholeheartedly agree with. We'll always have the seethe, that's enough for me.
Your concession made it all worth it 🙂
>Obviously someone benefitted
I'm what way? Paulie doesn't even tell anyone except Tony and his priest that he went to see a psychic. Try to actually watch the episodes you're arguing about before commenting on them, you Indian redditor piece of shit.
I am not Indian, I am German.
Sure thing Pajeet
Oh no, he called me pajeet even though I am German. Him being wrong about my nationality is vexing to me. I guess.
No one cares refugee
(You) #
>Respond to this post Black person
Why would I respond to it? I wrote it.
the real world explanation in the show is the goomar who recommended the psychic to paulie fed the guy info beforehand. that said the psychic is legit and ghosts are present in the show
you are intensely stupid the shot anon keeps posting is seen by no-one in the show keep pretending it doesn't exist though, you idiot
>the sopranos is a show about a haunting
and here is a perfect example lmao no its simply a part of the world by no means a major part or anything the characters are even aware of, as I said a touch of the supernatual and you think the entire show is
>what you think this is a show about ghosts?
its hilarious and pretty weird, its not a major part of either shows its simply a part of both shows a minor part at most, but even the hint of anything supernatural and you lose your shit, as I said a quintessential fedora tipping moron
and you post turd, says it all really, don't you ever give up on embarrassing yourself? or does your hero ms turd keep you digging? keep on digging fedoranon you'll dig yourself out one of these days
ESL moron.
>so illiterate he is unable to parse obviously native English and calls it ESL
Is it possible for regular people to unlock this power?
>I-I'm not an ESL saar, I swear,
Frick off pajeet. Your complete lack of reading comprehension is all the evidence we need
Shut the frick off kid, I already told you the argument are won and you’re dumbasses aren’t able to make any kind of counterargument.
>Shut the frick off kid, I already told you the argument are won and you’re dumbasses aren’t able to make any kind of counterargument.
I accepting your concession.
>I accepting your concession.
>Shut the frick off kid, I already told you the argument are won and you’re dumbasses aren’t able to make any kind of counterargument.
How can you make so many errors in one short post and still claim you're not an ESL? have a nice day Ranjeesh.
That's obviously not me btw, but even that lame pseudo indian fooled you guys. You only see what you want to see.
>t-that’s not me!!
ESL dumbass.
Easily duped. Go see a psychic and be amazed.
>Avatargayging
Absolute cancer.
I'm not that guy, don't know the show either, just always found it hilarious when people misread a post as ESL
lol moron, no it wasn't, but yes tony died in the end, to reiterate ghosts are real, tony died, stay braindead
>Untrue, they are all illusions and hallucinations of the characters.
How does the psychic know about Mikey and the poison ivy / Paulie’s first kill?
Psychics are con men. Are you really that moronic that you don't know that? And you belive that in the world of the sopranos fortune tellers are real? Don't you understand how that would change the entire universe? Why would they be fortune tellers and not just lottery winners?
You are really unintelligent.
Okay then how did some random psychic know about Mikey and the poison ivy? How did he know about Paulie’s first kill? If there weren’t ghosts explain how he knows
Are you caught in some kind of time loop or something? You just asked that you moron xD
Then why can’t you answer?
I did you absolute fricking mongoloid, you're just too dumb even to read apparently
>still cant answer
I accept your concession
You are the unintelligent one here. That anon is not arguing that psychics are not con men in real life. He's (correctly) pointing out that the fortune teller in that episode knows too many details for it to be "cold reading". As far as we can tell, psychics and ghosts are real in the Sopranos universe.
Paulie literally saw Virgin Mary, and no she wasn't his imagination because you could see her in the reflection in one of the shots.
This is the level of viewer you have to deal with.
The Virgin Mary is not a ghost, she is a goddess.
I love that this is a sentence that would piss off both Christians and pagans.
But Catholics agree with it
>DUDE TONY WAS THE BAD GUY SO YOU DON'T DESERVE TO CHEER ON HIS DEATH AND VIOLENCE WHEN YOU CHEERED HIM AND HIS MOB BUDDIES CAUSING DEATH AND VIOLENCE LMAO
Bravo, Chase-ari!
Nobody, even in fiction, could be stupid enough to put Paulie in charge
It was Phil. It was literally just Phil. Why do fans overcomplicate this? Phil put out hits on New Jersey's top 3 guys; Bobby, Sil and Tony. Then he died before the last hit was carried out.
Throughout the series we're shown time and time again that major hits are performed by 3rd parties, like black guys, Italians or hitmen. Once you send those orders out there's no way to reliably cancel them. It was fricking Phil.
Phil goes on the lamb and then gives the orders down to Butchie and the other wop. It's their responsibility to then contract out the killing. to the hitmen. Butchie probably kept the order standing when Phil died because it was easier to kill Tony then deal with his fallout and as Phil said before he got wheeled, 'we'll deal with whatever's left in jersey'.
Also Butch probably didn't want to have to compensate that fat sow Tony called a sister for Bobby's death, lol.
>on the lamb
*on the lam. Pardon me for all intensive porpoises.
NY let Phil and Tony kill each other. THen they dealt with the winner, who happened to be Tony. Butchie's scenes are quite explicit.
Paulie sold Tony since it's clear he's buying from NY.
Bullshit. It was decided that Phil AND Tony need to go for there to be peace. Phil did not orchestrate it from the grave, no matter how much you bozos believe that ghosts are real.
it really fricks with you that ghosts are real in this story doesn't it? it really makes you seethe eh? let me guess your a fedora tipper and cannot stand even the idea that a show like this might have a supernatural element
Nta, but Ghosts are not real anon, sorry to tell you. Your grandmama is gone
what part of the word "fiction" are you having trouble understanding?
protip fedora bud, The Shield has ghosts too
If you believe some guy who thinks ghosts exist regurgitating some 15 year old insults invented by other people than him has any effect on me I have to disappoint you little buddy. Especially as I am 6,3, athletic, married and have a girlfriend
>Especially as I am 6,3, athletic, married and have a girlfriend
wow so super fricking butthurt at the idea sopranos has an actual supernatural element to it, that is hilarious, please continue your blog and keep tipping that fedora you ridiculous chucklefrick what does your any of this have to do with your intense butthurt over the ghosts in sopranos? tip away fedora-kun tip away
>blabla
Whatever.
Still waiting, one example of a supernatural event caused by a ghost with no natural explanation in sopranos and the shield, go ahead.
>supernatural event
you are really fricking confused, this isn't the exorcist this isn't ead like me or supernatral just because ghosts exist in this narrative doesn't mean they have anyh agency what a bizzare attempt at an argument
>uh the ghosts didn't invade and their wasn't any paranormal (2013) type jump scares uh a naked granny ghost didn't stab someone to death so uh their were no ghosts
no really you are a complete idiot and the fact that their were supernatural elements in these shows makes you unreasonably angry,you precious fedora tipping snowflake
Throughout the series there are numerous examples of hits getting cancelled. Have you watched the show?
Paulie was already a capo, moron. It's also shown throughout the show that he's way too codependent to do something like that.
Boss, whatever Tony is, who cares. Paulue was very dissatisfied with Tony's leadership and had contacts to new York going back a long time. Re-watch the last scene of Pauly and Tony together. He is either leaving to betray Tony or has already betrayed him. My guess would be they dangle being boss in front of him, but after Tony is dead it will be someone else, would fit the character.
Paulie completely lacks any semblance of self-sufficiency as is repeatedly shown throughout the show, he wouldn't be able to set up such a plot. He also never gave any indication that he even wants to be a boss.
In all likelihood the Bareses would take over. Ally running things as underboss until his brother gets out of prison. Patsy would probably end up as
either consigliere or promoted to capo of the Aprile crew, and Paulie would probably stay more or less the same. But he did express some interest in being boss when talking to Johnny at the end of season 3.
They would dangle being boss in front of him and then just step over him once Tony was dead. Would befit the character.
Paulie was ready to jump ship after Tony almost whacked him on the boat
its pretty unambiguously implied that tony dies
It was admirable to end the Sopranos after 7 seasons instead of milking it, it was beginning to wear thin. Also Tony getting whacked was something likely to happen, they could have tried to "subvert expectations" with an arc with Tony going through legal troubles and snitching to the FBI or going straight or something, but I think this was the best option in keeping with the "reality throwing a curve ball" theme of the Sopranos.
AJ, for example, everyone hates him, but that character was meant to be that way, he was meant to annoy Tony, annoy the audience with his pettiness, and you see glimmers of why this is, his lack of enthusiasm even when he wins at football. The Sopranos would be a very different show if it were just an edgy gangster comedy.
unlikely, in other whackings in public places they kill the target only
It was Parisi obviously, he was playing the long game.
Bobby and Silvio were out of the picture, Tony was weak, Parisi was the most respected and intelligent caporegime and willing to throw his son under the bus unlike Gervaisi and he had a motive of course. Everything fits, it all comes into play in this legendary final episode.
Funny thing is, AJ is one of the few characters in the Sopranos who actually tries to do something positive, he's the only one with a positive message at the end despite being sabotaged by his family all the time and he's still been hated because unlike the rest of the cast he's actually supposed to be an angsty teenager.
Patsy wasn't even a capo though. He was a made man but he didn't have his own crew.
It was likely Paulie and Parisi
>cowardly
It's one of the bravest ending in tv.
You have no ideas on the balls of Chase to pull that one out.
Wanna see a cowardly ending? Breaking bad:
How is BB a cowardly ending?
Mr. White got what he deserved
a relatively quick death from blood loss?
It was more lazy than 'cowardly'.
Sopranos ending wasn't 'lazy' despite what some might say. Merely anti-climatic
Everything that Walt did got wrapped up super neatly and nicely. It’s an ok ending, but it’s incredibly safe and almost feels like a fantasy.
Walt kills all the neo nazis, frees Jesse and gives millions of dollars to his family
Because it was the quintessential american conformistic ending.
Walter White is supposed to be a bad person, but Bravo VInce couldn't do that.. Every meaningful issue gets solved in a positive light. Walter is supposed to be a fricking loser, an instead right at the ending he gets revenge against his old buddies, a safety net for his son, saves Jessie, kills the evil nazi, has the time to die a cool death. No moral ambiguity whatsoever. The last episodes are basically BB turning into an action flick, with the very same depth. Btw season 4 had the same problem, unlike season 2.
BB was always an unrealistic cartoon though, when you accept that I have no problem with the ending resolving everything satisfactorily.
>They couldn’t write a satisfying ending
Chase knew he wanted to cut to black by like season 3 or 4.
>ambiguous
Yep. Continues to filter low iq drones to this very day
That guy on the right has a really stupid beard.
So all three died, right?
The writer said that the cut to black was meant to simulate Tony's consciousness ending as a bullet passes through his brainpan. Tony is dead for sure, but the other characters are left ambiguous.
How could he have died, no one was there.
but makes no sense because the show isn't through first person narrative like say, The Wonder Years
in the last scene every time the door opens it cuts to a first person view of the door from where tony is sitting
right before the cut to black the door chime rings (potentially meadow entering), implying that tony's first person view went black from getting domed. Bobby foreshadows the whole "you won't even know it happened" earlier in the season
Exactly. It’s matching Tony’s POV shot
It does have Tony perspective in the final scene
no, tony and carmela survived, went into the witness protection program, moved to new york, and found their new friend lebron james a place to live
No. That would be completely pointless and moronic. The hitman has a perfect shot on Tony.
Killing innocent relatives is taboo in the mafia, only Tony died.
They didn't kill Phil right. There was a punishment for that, too. Killing Tony in front of his family.
tony was dead either way for killing a boss without a 5 family approval
That, too. My point is why it was done that way.
yes. Im not sure hoe it doesn't click for people
>This superbowl ad is canon according to chase
>superbowl ad
>canon
>according to chase
breaking bad did it better
Breaking dad's entire last season was shit outside of the penultimate episode
I tried that ending in a middle school historical fiction I wrote about world war 1, the teacher was pissed, she wrote in red ‘why does it end so suddenly’. She was Catholic though so I imagine she would have preferred golden cherubs to carry the narrator up to God
I would've immediately failed you for plagiarism
Mad Men's was pretty good too
No. If I had to name a TV series with a perfect ending, it’d be Six Feet Under.
>implying bryan fuller could ever stick a landing
the man is terminally incapable of delivering a satisfying ending
The scene symbolizes his last meal even if only metaphorically
His israelite lawyer said there was an 80-90% chance he'd be indicted over all sorts of shit that would have got him in prison the rest of his life
His life as he knew it was about to be over no matter what
No.
I like the one theory/actual cut ending from the show where Meadow stumbles out of the bathroom in front of the shooter and takes all the bullets in goofy dramatic way and dies in Tonys arms
thats rarded, meadow is coming from the front entrance the shooter is coming from the side
>a guy misses shooting Tony in the head at point blank range earlier in the series
>people still think it's a given that he dies here
HOOO! Tammy Faye ova here.
>Is this the perfect ending to a tv series?
I remember watching when it was broadcast and when the screen went black and the audio stopped, I honestly thought my cable tv had cut out until I changed channels.
At first I was pissed with the abrupt ending but afterward, realized this was a great ending as it got the point across that Tony had been whacked (probably by the guy in the Members Only jacket) without belaboring it with a lame scene where the family is crying and Tony is making some kinda final goodby to them.
>At first I was pissed with the abrupt ending but afterward, realized this was a great ending
I think this is probably the reaction that most people who aren't moronic had. I remember watching it live and also being pissed, but on rewatching the series it's perfect. They also have a flash back after Bobby dies of Tony thinking about the conversation they had about dying and Bobby says something along the lines of, "From your point of view everything probably just goes black" setting it up that then ending thematically represents Tony dying. Something overly dramatic also wouldn't fit the tone of the show.
It's definitely one of the better endings. I watched many series and don't even remember the ending of them. Except for Better Call Saul because it was a downer.
I always wonder what a modern or hacky tries-too-hard writer would do for the show
>AJ realizes when Bobby and Sil get shot that he finally has to step up, and in a critical moment, he shoots down a NY hitman who broke into the Soprano house and all of a sudden isn't homosexual and gets tons of NY hitman kills
>Meadow wins the case against Carlo testifying
>Gunman in Holsten's jumps out of bathroom, but agent Harris runs in and shoots him down; claiming he knew it was going to happen
It was no good I was hoping Tony would have been killed in the finale.
he did and became a ghost
Why was that guy on the right trying to look like an FtM troony way back in 2007?
Quite possibly the most sudointellectual ending of all television
just finished this 2 days ago, what do I watch now? Preferably something with a less crushing, cancer rotting undertone. Dont wanna think about hospitals every 30 minutes.
the flintstones
Ghost hunters
Ghost with Patrick swayze
Ghost busters
Ghost dad
Boardwalk Empire
Refused to continue watching this piece of shit show after the first few episodes. Hope you enjoyed your 86 hours lmao
filtered
>Hope you enjoyed your 86 hours lmao
Implying I only watched it once lol
I still watch the entire season every few years and occasionally turn on an episode here and there because it's comfy
I hate AJ so fricking much. Look at that little homosexual with his shit trimmed beard, he thinks he's so cool. They should have made his suicide attempt actually succeed
>And you belive that in the world of the sopranos fortune tellers are real? Don't you understand how that would change the entire universe? Why would they be fortune tellers and not just lottery winners?
I think you’re just pretending to be moronic at this point but the show never says he can read the future but that he’s a medium who can talk to ghosts. Not sure why you think he’d somehow be able to read the future
That scene isn't even in the show. You're thinking of "The Shield"
Why did Volodymyr Zelensky assassinate Tony Soprano? Was Tony holding up the aid package in Congress?
I don't remember any ghosts appearing in The Shield. Now that was a finale.
To this day people think there was any ambiguity when the entire last season was foreshadowing Tony’s death. It’s insane to me that people consider it “open-ended” or “open to interpretation”.
for me it's jamie lynn
You're talking and thinking about it years later, so at the very least it's a great ending.
Bad guys got what they deserved. A good ending to me.
*DING*
Idk but those onion rings looked fricking amazing
Funny thing is, Tony couldn't eat them. But in this scene, he does. He's already realized that he's been in purgatory all this time. And any minute now, the devil's angel is about to come for him.
you people always complain about bag tv show finales. but do you know any actually good finales? I feel like it's a taboo on tveddit to call any show ending good
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I've known several women who have watched sopranos, including one i've watched with entirely
women can understand and break apart tonys character. even chris to an extent
but artie? not a chance. simply incomprehensible. the ultimate man character
Before youtube moron normies couldn't figure it out
>members only jacket (literally the name of a season 6 ep, Eugene goofed on for wearing this jacket, he dies)
>Bobby saying "you don't even hear it when it happens" (getting shot and killed)
>members only jacket guy that keeps looking at Tony goes to the bathroom. Bathroom is located at Tony's 3 o'clock, which was Christophers warning
I always felt that the open ending was made because they weren't sure if they would keep making the show, I remember reading they were planning to take a break and then make a new season or make a movie but it fell through
now that James Gandolfini is dead I think Chase is saying Tony dies because he might as well go that way
Nah they were never going to make another season, the salary demands for the actors were too high
They WERE considering making a movie sequel, which obviously died with Gandolfini and then Chase decided to make a movie anyway but a prequel.
you're like a woman with a virginia ham undah her arm, crying coz she ain't got no bread
Something special about the Sopranos was how the writing was able to capture a lot of the pointless, tangential bullshit of every day life. Stupid conversations you overhear, people dialed in on some meaningless minutia that relates to their job, main characters making odd connections in analogies or flubbing metaphors. Most other shows are "dialed in" when it comes to what they choose to focus on or what they have characters say, where everything feels more firm and precise. I think it's part of why the Sopranos is so endlessly quotable.
I’ll add that despite it not being dialed it, it doesn’t feel random or worthless. The conversations don’t always amount to much, but they’re worth listening to and move the characters
I knew how it ended before I ever saw the show so I think it's brilliant and yeah perfect. If I was watching it as it aired over like 7 years I'd probably be pissed though
How come no one has posted this ending. It's the greatest ending to a television series.
Nah Tony went into witness protection. He made a video a few years later asking LeBron James to come to the NY Knicks.