It shows communists as predictably unreliable and associating with them something that cast a shadow over Oppenheimer and others. As for the soviets, it's clearly shown there was an arms race going on
The guy, as a israelite, couldn't help it. Even Einstein was a commie. They always cave in to peer pressure to be evil, that's what defines a israelite.
I'm convinced that a lot of people just pretend they enjoyed it because they don't want to be seen as dimwits. It's a movie that smart people are supposed to like, right? I can't say it was boring or everyone will call me dumb.
Seeing some of the reviews about how thrilling it was makes me feel like I watched a completely different movie.
First Nolan's not good at pyrotechnics.Second, it's supposed to show the damage/radiation by the bomb but only to the people he's giving the victory speech. Also, that girl is Nolan's daughter.
does anyone else not give a frick and not find it scandalous at all that the head of the manhattan project would later be scrutinized at a hearing and then win out not even losing a security clearance that wasn’t all that important anymore? They portrayed it like it was the holocaust or the passion of Christ or something but it’s like, so what, later some butthole audited him to see if he could still work for the government or would have to retire or do something else. It’s really not that big of a thing.
you do realize he was a nuclear physicist right? without the security clearance he could no longer work as a physicist, and he was a real good one even before the Manhattan project
he hasnt published a single paper after they had killed his clearance AFAIK, and he's published like 20 during his tour through europe over the course of just like a year or two
all the complex quantum mechanics shit research that he was interested in and working with (they hired him to make the nuke because that was his speciality) was classified.
he wasn't just blocked with the governemnt or weapons, he was blocked off from working in the entire discipline which i wont be able to name because i am not a fricking physicist
How is that really the case? They ban him from doing math on the blackboard and he can’t teach it to anyone, can’t be paid by anyone to do it, he can’t publish findings? Maybe that’s true but how does that work? Government clearance is about having access to classified information, right? Maybe everything he works in is classified, I’d have to assume, but all the students in a classroom don’t have government clearance and they still get taught physics and nuclear physics, I’m just not sure how losing this clearance means he can’t do anything or contribute to physics non-governmentally
>hey bro remember how u mentioned to me that u are interested in super turbo secret version of neutrinos and have the equipment to study it? wanna study and publish together?
>sorry but no that would be a literal federal crime
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But is it really that much of a bummer not to work in that incredibly specialized field and is it any crime at all not to have access to a particle accelerator? I know I’m being stupid here and Oppenheimer is an incredibly focused genius with unending quest for discovery in this field, but in reality how actually bad is it to retire or do something adjacent? I understand his sense of loss but is it really big enough to be this fricked up betrayal we’re all offended by
It is. On its historical deficiency, Oppenheimer was a hard-ass, not a whiny self-sacrificing man-child. On its film faults, it recycles the tired unreliable narrator is really le villain trope. But when you punctuate all that with overwrought sound design and bursts of CGI meant to analogize Oppie's internal conflict with nuclear fission and the quantum realm you get yourself a bravo Nolan!
>Oppenheimer was a hard-ass, not a whiny self-sacrificing man-child.
He was both >unreliable narrator.
Strauss was not the narrator of this film. You're a moron.
>not a whiny self-sacrificing man-child. >Infamously described as a crybaby scientist by Truman > On Camera weeping because of le hiroshima
Lol, lmao even.
Cinemaphile is worse than reddit these days, Cinemaphile is for sure. Cinemaphile really got finished off back in mid 2010s by the American political kerfuffles
Nolan triggers random "talented but unmotivated" types for some reason. They assume they can give Christopher Nolan visual effects/screenwriting lessons
This movie is not really about the actual period or about the science. It’s more about the morality and philosophy held by the individuals. The drama of the bomb and the war takes a backseat to the drama of the dogmas (or lack thereof) held by Oppenheimer.
That might be why chuds hate it so much, because it clearly shows Oppenheimer was a man who could get such things done with so many different sets of people because he did not get swayed easily by “sides” and he carved his own path.
what book was he holding anyway? I've been wondering since watching the film in theater, i dontthink they ever show its title do they? anyone got a 4k release on their pc to check?
>On the way to turning pop cinema into a weapon of mass destruction, Christopher Nolan specialized in narratives about amoral excitation — Memento, and his Batman Begins / The Dark Knight / The Dark Knight Rises trilogy. These bad productions changed movie culture by appealing to the terrors of naïve film nerds the same way Stanley Kubrick corrupted adolescent pop-culture devotees — through technological preening that made geeks feel smart. >There’s always a moral vacancy in Nolan’s films. Now, Nolan has made his ultimate geeks’ movie: the overhyped biopic Oppenheimer, which mystifies physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer (played by the eccentric, intense Irish actor Cillian Murphy), credited for creating the atomic bomb that the U.S. dropped on Japan in 1945 to end World War II. This is Nolan’s subversive remake of Kubrick’s Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, from 1964. The real-life basis of Nolan’s film is all the more enticing for kids who know nothing about military or scientific history. He introduces them to Oppenheimer in the same way that Marvel distorted Oppenheimer’s wizardry in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. And surely Nolan is aware of how Zack Snyder’s Watchmen used Oppenheimer’s oft-repeated quote — “Now I am become Death, destroyer of worlds.” It came from the Bhagavad Gita, a Sanskrit epic that polymath Oppenheimer knew, but the proclamation now teases pop-culture nihilists — and that’s the purpose behind Nolan’s Oppenheimer.
Contrarians always hate the genius. Same happened with Oppenheimer himself, in fact. Wouldn't be surprised if Nolan had been self inserting as Oppenheimer throughout writing and filming the movie.
And the film is actually first person throughout. I dont think everyone who watched it in cinema cought it, but it's actually unreliably narrated too (the Casey Affleck scene)
Inferiority complex. Most Nolan haters feel literally threatened by his films, they feel like Nolan is trying to be "smarter" than them and thus they feel the compulsive need to defend themselves from this perceived threat and convince themselves that they are above it, that Nolan hasn't gotten one over them.
It's mildly anti-american and this place is filled with bots trying to promote euroatlanticists ideas and feel threatened by the movie and its storyline
nobody gave me an answer. who gives a frick if the guy who managed the creation of the nuclear bomb later had to retire and adjust to a normal or merely excellent scientific life? he didn’t even lose his clearance, it’s not fricking crazy that people at this level of power and secrecy would be scrutinized like this, he fricking won anyways how am I supposed to hold any contempt for this basically normal high government office situation
No. It's also morally layered rather than taking sides
It's pretty black and white and pro-commie if u ask me
It basically clears the Soviets from any responsibility for starting the cold war and the arms race
It shows communists as predictably unreliable and associating with them something that cast a shadow over Oppenheimer and others. As for the soviets, it's clearly shown there was an arms race going on
The guy, as a israelite, couldn't help it. Even Einstein was a commie. They always cave in to peer pressure to be evil, that's what defines a israelite.
>and that senator's name is... John Fitzgerald Kennedy
>WILL ANYONE EVER TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE???
>WE WILL NOW HEAR THE TESTIMONY OF DR HILL
do nolantard really?
the dolly zoom at the grassy knoll and the six gunshot sounds really ruined that scene
>the six gunshot sounds
wait how many gummen were there again??
Its just a documentary
Literally just things happening to people and them not reacting to it
So... now that the nuclear dust.... has finally settled...
Why did he kill Tatlock?
OP OP OP OP OP
OPPENHEIMER STYLE
I'm convinced that a lot of people just pretend they enjoyed it because they don't want to be seen as dimwits. It's a movie that smart people are supposed to like, right? I can't say it was boring or everyone will call me dumb.
Seeing some of the reviews about how thrilling it was makes me feel like I watched a completely different movie.
That's a dimwit assumption
And you're a Black person
no u
it's a superhero movie made for adhd zoomers and I say this as a zoomer
>IS.... IS THAT.... IS THAT HUMAN FEMALE PUSSY????
>OH MY GOOOOD IM GONNA IM GONNNNAA SPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FOR THE SOVIET UNION!!!111
tfw if this was the reward i would have spied for the soviets too
at least Stalin didn't have a rapist drug addicted son or forced his people to endure kilotonnes (no pun intended) of pro-gay propaganda
king of practical effects
Thats sarcasm right?
can someone whos watched the movie explain why this girl's face is covered in cheap condoms??
First Nolan's not good at pyrotechnics.Second, it's supposed to show the damage/radiation by the bomb but only to the people he's giving the victory speech. Also, that girl is Nolan's daughter.
>not good at pyrotechnics
>makes the best visual representation of a nuclear bomb explosion
>not good at pyrotechnics
I will kill you with a rock
It sucked, was a regular ass fireball. Pic related
>CGI IS LE BAD!!!111 DO REAL PRACTICAL EFFECTS!!!
>Nolan actually goes away and does only the practical effects to represent a nuclear fricking explosion
>NNOOOOOO!111 THAT DOESNT LOOK NUKE-Y ENUFFF !!! NOLAN'S A HACK!!111 AAACK!!111
Not my problem
>nolans reaction to your criticism
I appreciate the mutual callous
why didn't he just detonate a nuke?
it's forbidden by the international lawl, none of the big five has done a nuclear test since 1991
It was excellent. Only videogame/cgi stunted types whine about it
watch this actual fireball that looks like a sun.
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she got a big shnozz
Wtf, why doesn't it look like Sarah Connor turning into a skeleton?
does anyone else not give a frick and not find it scandalous at all that the head of the manhattan project would later be scrutinized at a hearing and then win out not even losing a security clearance that wasn’t all that important anymore? They portrayed it like it was the holocaust or the passion of Christ or something but it’s like, so what, later some butthole audited him to see if he could still work for the government or would have to retire or do something else. It’s really not that big of a thing.
you do realize he was a nuclear physicist right? without the security clearance he could no longer work as a physicist, and he was a real good one even before the Manhattan project
he hasnt published a single paper after they had killed his clearance AFAIK, and he's published like 20 during his tour through europe over the course of just like a year or two
How is he not able to work as a physicist? Are all physicist jobs through the government?
all the complex quantum mechanics shit research that he was interested in and working with (they hired him to make the nuke because that was his speciality) was classified.
he wasn't just blocked with the governemnt or weapons, he was blocked off from working in the entire discipline which i wont be able to name because i am not a fricking physicist
>he wasn't just blocked FROM WORKING* with the governemnt or weapons,
sorry like i said im moronic
How is that really the case? They ban him from doing math on the blackboard and he can’t teach it to anyone, can’t be paid by anyone to do it, he can’t publish findings? Maybe that’s true but how does that work? Government clearance is about having access to classified information, right? Maybe everything he works in is classified, I’d have to assume, but all the students in a classroom don’t have government clearance and they still get taught physics and nuclear physics, I’m just not sure how losing this clearance means he can’t do anything or contribute to physics non-governmentally
>hey bro remember how u mentioned to me that u are interested in super turbo secret version of neutrinos and have the equipment to study it? wanna study and publish together?
>sorry but no that would be a literal federal crime
But is it really that much of a bummer not to work in that incredibly specialized field and is it any crime at all not to have access to a particle accelerator? I know I’m being stupid here and Oppenheimer is an incredibly focused genius with unending quest for discovery in this field, but in reality how actually bad is it to retire or do something adjacent? I understand his sense of loss but is it really big enough to be this fricked up betrayal we’re all offended by
>give your country the greatest invention ever for free
>The country responds by basically cancelling you and your genius physicists' career forever
Are you a poltard or just a moron?
>for free
You think everyone just worked on the manhattan project pro bono?
what does pol have to do with anything
It is. On its historical deficiency, Oppenheimer was a hard-ass, not a whiny self-sacrificing man-child. On its film faults, it recycles the tired unreliable narrator is really le villain trope. But when you punctuate all that with overwrought sound design and bursts of CGI meant to analogize Oppie's internal conflict with nuclear fission and the quantum realm you get yourself a bravo Nolan!
It’s pathetic how the whole thing is Nolan’s extrapolation of who he thought Oppenheimer was from his destroyer speech
>Oppenheimer was a hard-ass, not a whiny self-sacrificing man-child.
He was both
>unreliable narrator.
Strauss was not the narrator of this film. You're a moron.
>not a whiny self-sacrificing man-child.
>Infamously described as a crybaby scientist by Truman
> On Camera weeping because of le hiroshima
Lol, lmao even.
the angry redditor appears!
Oh so now you got nothing to say huh
It was chud-filtering kino
oppenheimer was a chud
Scorsese would make better Oppie than Nolan.
Source: Aviator
>Scorsese would make better Oppie than Nolan.
ahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa
Why did this filter Cinemaphile so hard? Is it because the redditors didn’t get their hella freaking epic nuke scene?
It was mawkish
Cinemaphile is worse than reddit these days, Cinemaphile is for sure. Cinemaphile really got finished off back in mid 2010s by the American political kerfuffles
but you won’t go back
>sloppy awkward stiffness filtered anyone
Nolan triggers random "talented but unmotivated" types for some reason. They assume they can give Christopher Nolan visual effects/screenwriting lessons
This movie is not really about the actual period or about the science. It’s more about the morality and philosophy held by the individuals. The drama of the bomb and the war takes a backseat to the drama of the dogmas (or lack thereof) held by Oppenheimer.
That might be why chuds hate it so much, because it clearly shows Oppenheimer was a man who could get such things done with so many different sets of people because he did not get swayed easily by “sides” and he carved his own path.
You can't speak on behalf of "chuds" and your take is pedestrian
I thought it was the israeli feel good movie of the year. What we do without them eh?
>Einstein appears out of the shadows and asks Oppenheimer to join the Manhattan Initiative
BRAVO NOLAN
>i'm putting together a team
whats wrong with that?
what book was he holding anyway? I've been wondering since watching the film in theater, i dontthink they ever show its title do they? anyone got a 4k release on their pc to check?
Mein Kampf
Anything by Ridley Scott.
>On the way to turning pop cinema into a weapon of mass destruction, Christopher Nolan specialized in narratives about amoral excitation — Memento, and his Batman Begins / The Dark Knight / The Dark Knight Rises trilogy. These bad productions changed movie culture by appealing to the terrors of naïve film nerds the same way Stanley Kubrick corrupted adolescent pop-culture devotees — through technological preening that made geeks feel smart.
>There’s always a moral vacancy in Nolan’s films. Now, Nolan has made his ultimate geeks’ movie: the overhyped biopic Oppenheimer, which mystifies physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer (played by the eccentric, intense Irish actor Cillian Murphy), credited for creating the atomic bomb that the U.S. dropped on Japan in 1945 to end World War II. This is Nolan’s subversive remake of Kubrick’s Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, from 1964. The real-life basis of Nolan’s film is all the more enticing for kids who know nothing about military or scientific history. He introduces them to Oppenheimer in the same way that Marvel distorted Oppenheimer’s wizardry in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. And surely Nolan is aware of how Zack Snyder’s Watchmen used Oppenheimer’s oft-repeated quote — “Now I am become Death, destroyer of worlds.” It came from the Bhagavad Gita, a Sanskrit epic that polymath Oppenheimer knew, but the proclamation now teases pop-culture nihilists — and that’s the purpose behind Nolan’s Oppenheimer.
>Makes the ultimate anti-cancel culture film
>The nu-Cinemaphileners and poltard tier plebbitors hate him
Why?
seething over nazis not being portrayed as a boy scout club that were just trying to help old lady poland with her shopping
low iq
Contrarians always hate the genius. Same happened with Oppenheimer himself, in fact. Wouldn't be surprised if Nolan had been self inserting as Oppenheimer throughout writing and filming the movie.
>Nolan had been self inserting as Oppenheimer throughout writing and filming the movie.
It actually is true. I remember reading something like he wrote the script in first person
And the film is actually first person throughout. I dont think everyone who watched it in cinema cought it, but it's actually unreliably narrated too (the Casey Affleck scene)
Redditors love the cancel culture. Cinemaphile has more redditors these days than many actually film-focused subreddits
Are we calling being anti-communist cancel culture now. Is that the big boy big brain take now.
Inferiority complex. Most Nolan haters feel literally threatened by his films, they feel like Nolan is trying to be "smarter" than them and thus they feel the compulsive need to defend themselves from this perceived threat and convince themselves that they are above it, that Nolan hasn't gotten one over them.
It's mildly anti-american and this place is filled with bots trying to promote euroatlanticists ideas and feel threatened by the movie and its storyline
nobody gave me an answer. who gives a frick if the guy who managed the creation of the nuclear bomb later had to retire and adjust to a normal or merely excellent scientific life? he didn’t even lose his clearance, it’s not fricking crazy that people at this level of power and secrecy would be scrutinized like this, he fricking won anyways how am I supposed to hold any contempt for this basically normal high government office situation
>he didn’t even lose his clearance
he literally did what are u on?
For like a second there. Then JFK wins the day and sets up the sequel
Nukes are a hoax