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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Make him look like a Neanderthal and yeah, that's me

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I would post dubs guy but apparently that makes you unable to unsociable to women according to OP.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Grug speak not to wet holes
      >Grug bonk head of wet holes
      >Grug drag wet hole to cave
      >Grug stick his body finger in wet hole
      >Grug happy

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    yeah and man it’s okay I guess

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    bateman was good with women

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I found the incel

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        🙁 he banged a lady though

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I think I have seen word Incel more than N-word in Cinemaphile and can't say N word becasue you losers would just report.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >N word
          i dont get it, what "N word" are you talking about anon

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          oh, you mean Black folk?

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >be working with a woman
    >see she's about to eat some tacos
    >"you like spicy food huh?"
    >"yup" doesn't look at me

    This is why I don't speak to women, they can't be bothered to have a conversation unless you're Chad

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      maybe don't pick a shit conversation opener

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i want nothing to do with anyone when iam trying to eat

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >sit down across from her and place your hands on the table like it's an interview
      >playfully say, "Listen. Stacy. Question for you. Are you ready?"
      >teehee okay anon
      >"What latin american country would you want to go to, if anywhere? I see you're a taco fan."
      >umm idk i gu-
      >"I'm guessing Costa Rica. You seem like the beach, rainforest animals type"
      >oh wow you really think so? I was going to say mexico haha
      >"That's a great pick too. I actually know this great mexican place, want to go there after work thursday?"
      >definitely, I'll see you there also here's my number 🙂

      you don't even need to be Chad, but you do need to at least be presentable

      the more you do shit like this the easier it gets.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        american dialogue is so ingratiating.
        just spit it out. stop wasting my time with moronic primer sentences when the questions you're gonna ask do not even require any focus

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Found the German autist

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        american dialogue is so ingratiating.
        just spit it out. stop wasting my time with moronic primer sentences when the questions you're gonna ask do not even require any focus

        furthermore stop fricking interrupting me especially when YOU asked.
        i'd punch you.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >leave work with a letter from HR about a sexual harassment meeting scheduled for thursday at the mexican restaurant

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >you have to eat ALL of the eggs

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >sit down across from her and place your hands on the table like it's an interview
        >playfully say, "Listen. Stacy. Question for you. Are you ready?"
        >Don’t talk to me

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >lift her chin up as I slowly stand up
          >ask if she’s ready now
          >offer her a bite of my sandwich and let her suck my fingers after

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Chad move, b***hes love it

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              what is this from

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Diabolik lovers or something
                It's an anime adaptation of a harem visual novel for girls

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Chad move, b***hes love it

                Holy based.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i fricking love it when morons like you post these horrendous conversations and pat yourselves on the back for it
        >just speak like someone's grandfather bro! better yet, get a nice light blue oxford shirt and some slacks! yeah that'll do it fella i know you're only 24 but REAL MEN dress and talk like 70 year olds

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        this is why i come here

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          So you can read fake stories to use as real world experience? I bet you watch anime

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            no, to laugh. and i do watch anime thank you very much

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        lmaooooo

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >tacos
      >"you like spicy food huh?"
      Holy shit turboautism

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >be working with a creepy weirdo
      >about to eat my tacos
      >just want to be left alone and not get male attention for 10 seconds
      >can feel him staring at me from behind me
      >here we go
      >"y-you like spicy food huh?"
      >respond politely and pray he leaves me alone

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >implying it wouldn't work for an attractive man

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          And? If you're subhuman, you deserve to be treated as one.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly, that’s why we got roll back womens rights.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You're not rolling back anything, lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                We just did a couple weeks ago gay, then again wouldn’t call that a right.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Roe v. Wade blocks your path

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Talichads block your path.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          i doubt people want you pestering them while theyre eating.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >pestering
            Like people never talk during eating right

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              They do. Sometimes they just pester you when you're trying to focus on your taco, though.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >you need to talk to women
                >not like that
                Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The thing is, anon, when you're attractive, it's not pestering. Ever.
            >yeah, my food was alright, but Chad talked to me while I was eating, he's taking me to dinner tonight

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Spoken like an incel who has no clue how people actually behave. The vast majority of people aren't coombrained morons and they will absolutely tell someone to frick off if they're feeling pestered regardless of how physically attractive they are.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The vast majority of people aren't coombrained
                Spoken like the true shut-in who has no idea how people actually are. The vast majority are.
                >they will absolutely tell someone to frick off if they're feeling pestered regardless of how physically attractive they are
                If an attractive girl starts talking to you about your lunch, you're not going to tell her off, you lying moron.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                if she didnt ask me to eat with her, i wouldnt bother.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >she causally comments on your tacos, while waiting for the microwave to finish
                "Sorry, you didn't ask me to join you for lunch. I won't answer your question."
                Yeah, no. You'd be telling her about how you love tacos and spicy food.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm married and work a very social job, Anon. Try again.

                Let me break it down to you in a format more suitable for your condition:

                >Good Personality>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Good looks

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong, and as another anon said, you must actually be attractive, if you think this. Or totally moronic.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                i think if he had a good personality she would've at least tried to engage with him, but again it is annoying when you just want time to yourself.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >if he had a good personality she would've at least tried to engage with him
                Of course, that's never been what I was talking about though.
                My entire point is that if he was attractive, the entire conversation would have played out differently.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yes becuase girls love being hit on mid meal.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You must be as ugly as I am then, because they do love being hit on by attractive guys. Doesn't matter when.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I refuse to learn and it's everybody else's fault, especially attractive people!

                We get that you're an envious wretch, but you don't have to be. If you choose to be that way though, you don't get to whine when people avoid dealing with you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You've never seen girls flock around an attractive guy before. My social skills are fine. That's never been the issue. I know that I'm not attractive enough to be able to randomly talk to strangers.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                My cousin was as big of a chad as they come, Anon. I watched him drown in pussy and I also watched him get treated like absolute dogshit when his gf's felt like he deserved it. Sometimes, he even did deserve it.

                I also watched every single one of those girls leave him because of his toxic as frick personality. Even fricked a couple of them on the rebound.

                Personality wins out over looks every single time and you refuse to accept that simple fact of life.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Personality wins out over looks every single time and you refuse to accept that simple fact of life.
                What you fail to realize is that your story proves his point. The shitty attitude only mattered after the fact, the Chad was still drowning in easy pussy.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And you can get some pussy too if you're willing to trade in your shitty personality for a more appealing one. It's really that simple.

                If you're really as ugly as you think, then that sucks but it just makes it all the more important to have a fun personality. If your inside is as ugly as your outside, and you refusr to address it, then you deserve to be alone. Simple as.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not ugly, I just have zero Idea what to do with a woman to get to a physical interaction, and at this point in life(37) when a woman sees that it is a big red flag.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Go get drunk with one and be willing to make the first move and you'll be amazed at how easy it is.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >muh personality
                No girl cares when they are repulsed by ugliness

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If you have clean hair/teeth, clothes and are making an effort to find common ground, i really dont see why they wouldnt try talking to you at all. Unless they are fricking eating.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Because she is not attracted to me

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                move on then, learn from your mistakes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What mistakes?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                iam guessing you overestimated how close you two were because she wouldve at least made cursory conversation to be polite.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >clean hair
                JUST

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                bald guys need to maintain that shit too.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And then you will turn right around and say:
                >"OMG, how did that ugly bastard Anon hook up with that cutie from my old job that I creeped out on a daily basis?"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Any man with a gf I know is attractive.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I am an overweight balding manlet mutt and I am literally dating a bikini model

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >dating a bikini model
                This one?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nah. she is Filipina and plus size, but she does not look like that, she just has incredibly white hips, not a whale.
                But I went from a borderline high school shooter to being where I am, it's a lot of hard work but we are all going to make it

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're rich then

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not at all. I have a decent full-time job, but she actually comes from money. We just actually connected on an autistic level

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >just change your personality! It’s easy as that!

                Personality is literally impossible to change unless I guess you become brain damaged. The lack of social skills and bitterness towards women for making fun of you and rejecting you and your htred of “normies” for bullying you will not magically go away
                The only thing you can do is beautify yourself via working out and medical treatments

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Personality is literally impossible to change
                But your persona isn't. The mask you wear for others is what normies call "personality"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Women hate shitty personalities! See? This guy fricked a bunch of chicks and they all kept coming back to him BUT they all called him meanie!!!! Al the tive girls he is dating right now said they wish he was as nice as me haha

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Way to completely ignore the fact that all of his gf's dumped him and a few even cheated on him with great regularity.

                Looking like a Chad makes it easier to attract them, and I never disputed that. What you idiots refuse to accept is that Chad's good looks should have zero bearing on the fact you think it's acceptable to have a shitty personality.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ok you shouldn’t be a total abusive scumbag and girls wont leave you. So what?
                He still got tons of pussy easily from his looks. If he didnt have good looks but had a nice personality would he still have a bunch of girls?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He would have had better relationships if he'd had a better personality, that's for sure.

                I love how you feebs honestly think you deserve a good relationship with a 10/10 Stacy just by virtue of existing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I love how you feebs honestly think you deserve a good relationship with a 10/10 Stacy
                no, just to be held once would be enough...

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                sad but true

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >love how you feebs honestly think you deserve a good relationship with a 10/10 Stacy just by virtue of existing.
                Nobody ever said that

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's literally how you frickers behave.
                >All womem are prostitutes that only care about good looks!
                >I'm so lonely, Anon. I just want to be held.
                >It's all Chad's fault.
                >No, I won't talk to Becky. She's not Stacy!
                >What do you mean I have a shitty personality!?!?!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Literal strawman

                >hurr durr i won't talk to becky

                Becky doesn't want to talk to you either, annoying c**ts like you don't understand that some men don't have any girls attracted to them

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >annoying c**ts like you don't understand that some men don't have any girls attracted to them
                They know, he is just baiting

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And throughout all of human history, unattractive men had to find something that made them appealing to the opposite sex. You literal man-babies think you're exempt from that scenario and want to whine like c**ts when women ignore you like you deserve. If you don't want to be treated like a genetic dead-end then stop behaving like one.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >And throughout all of human history, unattractive men had to find something that made them appealing to the opposite sex.
                Yeah, they asked her hand in marriage from the father or they kidnapped and raped her

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And this kind of delusional shit is why you deserve to be alone. The state could literally force a woman to be your weekly sex slave and you would still feel you were owed more. I'm glad women treat guys like you like shit. It's one of the few times they're justified in being cruel.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm glad women treat guys like you like shit.
                And the mask finally comes off. Kys homosexual.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You deserve your mistreatment, incel. There's no reason to mask that. You literally believe that women should exist only to serve you and they can smell that shit from a mile away. If anybody needs to off themselves, it's you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, women have sixth sense for incel posting, but unfortunately this sixth sense doesn't work when they chose a man who will beat them and rape them later. Show breasts already.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If I defend women online they will surely reward me with sex!!!!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Keep seething. Im not even the anon you were talking to

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Does the truth hurt?
                Maybe your girlfriend will let you watch her get fricked tonight instead of having to pay for her onlyfans like usual

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >unattractive men had to find something that made them appealing to the opposite sex
                I have a good job, I make triple the average wage in my country. Does it matter when I am ugly and I have zero confidence because of that? Nope.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Now looks are not a minor part anymore? Lmao frick pull yourself up by your bootstraps homosexual, you can't even be consistent.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >throughout all of human history
                Culturally enforced monogamy meant women eventually had to settle with someone on their level. Stacy marries Chad, Becky marries Brad etc. Now all the girls just get railed by Chad and your hard earned tax dollars support their single motherhood.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I love how you feebs honestly think you deserve a good relationship with a 10/10 Stacy just by virtue of existing.

                I don't get how you got to this conclusion, men like all kinds of women, even landwhales have a legion of simps ready to frick them. Honestly tired of normalhomosexuals like you with this shitty strawman.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're the one b***hing that it's too hard to talk to women. You can't have it both ways.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >tired of normalhomosexuals like you with this shitty strawman.
                They all use the same talking points.
                >always your fault, nothing is ever wrong with women
                >it's your personality, not looks
                >you want someone out of your league
                >your hygiene must be bad
                They can't admit there is growing population of average and sub average looking men who just have no chance anymore when women can do better.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                not my problem

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >He would have had better relationships if he'd had a better personality, that's for sure.
                And have zero relationships if he was ugly

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >good looks should have zero bearing on the fact you think it's acceptable to have a shitty personality.
                Without good looks you will not attract them and so your personality does not matter.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >the fact you think it's acceptable to have a shitty personality.
                acceptable or not, the personality of a Chad has little to do with his ability to get pussy. Unless he is spitting on them or eating their livers with a nice Chianti, women will overlook a great deal for his genes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And I'm telling you that they won't. I've watched it happen in real time on several occassions. The fact you think all women behave like dogs in heat reveals just how warped your perceptions about them are and it's a misconception that can only grow in a self-imposed exile.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >a self-imposed exile.
                My exile may well be self-imposed. But it still does not change the fact that women, like men, prefer an ideal set of traits in a partner. And if you are blessed with those traits you will have a MUCH easier time with women. How is this so hard for you to accept? I don't blame chads for my lack of ability with women. But I won't ignore reality as it obviously is either.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're intentionally ignorong reality by focusing solely on attraction which is only part of the equation and a minor part at that. Basically, you need to grow the frick up.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >minor part

                You are a delusional homosexual

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You already admitted you need attraction to start a relationship, so everythingn else you say is worthless pilpul

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >you need to grow the frick up.
                coming from the guy who can't admit that the top 10% of genes plays a small roll in attracting 90% of women, I think I will continue on my own path and ignore your input from here on out.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You need to go back

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Okay they might frick them and then later cheat on their bf with them but they left him with his child so there!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So your cousin can't hold down a gf in spite if his good looks and has to make do with "only" tons of free pussy? That's rough, buddy. Meanwhile for the average incel it wouldn't matter if he had a literal heart of gold because he will never even be in a position to prove it. How the frick is personality supposed to factor in when people aren't willing to date (i.e. get to know you) in the first place?
                >inb4 women can magically know your personality at a glance
                Like hell they can. Your own story disproves this.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >My cousin was as big of a chad as they come, Anon. I watched him drown in pussy
                >deconstructs his own argument

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You aren’t self aware

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                especially at work when you just want a few minutes of peace.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you know the rules

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >be working with a woman
      >see she's about to eat some tacos
      >"you like spicy food huh?"
      LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      next time try talking about the weather you fricking sperg hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >>"you like spicy food huh?"
      Wow, such an interesting conversation starter.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >>"you like spicy food huh?"
      >>"yup" doesn't look at me
      >yeah i love it too but if i eat too much of it my shit becomes hot as lava and my butthole burns, i guess it's the same for you huh?
      >she gets wet

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i bet you a million dollars that if the roles were reversed you would have said the exact same thing. this lack of self awareness and reflection is why you're a virgin.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >”you like spicy food huh?”

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Real open ended question you asked there

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Be grateful that she didn't went to HR immediately and got you fired for harassment, chud.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You didn't "start a conversation" You literally forced someone to be the active participant in a conversation. I fricking hate when people do that to me and I straight up cut off the conversation at that point so that I can focus on my own shit.

      This isn't dating advice but regular human interaction advice. Ask open questions, take the lead and talk yourself if you want to carry on the conversation. And don't put the ball in their court until the conversation is rolling already.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        So one would rather ask "why did you order tacos"?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Hey guys Big Gulps huh? Well see you later.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >you like spicy food huh?

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not incapable i just choose not to, not only women men too. the best conversation i have are with fictional people i created with fictional emotion and mind i created from observing real moronic interactions between homosexuals irl i have the most fun this way, real life conversation or talk is predictable and boring and no one wants to argue or discuss anything i deem important because they are too busy trying to win an internet popularity contest or too dumb to even differentiate anything and just obey the status quo.

    no i will not take my meds

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      did you also create a fantasy about a different life you could of have and started to believe it was supposed to happen but didnt because someone fricked the timeline?
      no just me?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You are a massive homosexual.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much yeah, nobody says anything of value IRL.
      Can be fun shitposting - sorry shittalking - around a common sport, but people aren’t really worth talking to.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'd like to think not.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like bateman when im interacting with coworkers or customers at work. Im extremely good at acting like a normal person at a surface level but in reality i am a turbo-autist that wants to spend their whole life in a dark room alone playing video games and watching movies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this. what they dont know is that i walk around in my basement with the lights off and the tv being the only light with my headphones in day dreaming about my fantasies.

      everyone at work things im the sweetest innocent guy "hey matt" but in my mind i hate them and tell them to frick off (in my head)

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I talk to them plenty but none of them want me
    I don't really get it but whatever

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You don't gain anything from talking to women

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, and Batemen never seems to have any problem with women in the film, I think his instructions were understood pretty clearly: "Don't stare at it, eat it."

    I don't have any problem talking to girls, I actually find it easier to communicate romantically than otherwise generally. I've never identified with any of these characters. I guess aspects of Joker to an extent, the outsider stuff, the loner stuff, the "all my thoughts are negative thoughts" stuff, the crazy mom stuff, but the way he behaved, the way he handled it, basically everything about his personality diverged from me entirely. And if I was fantasizing about a relationship with a woman, it wouldn't be black single mom. What the frick was that?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I actually find it easier to talk to women than other men

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bro Travis hooked up with a high maintenance hot blonde who worked on politics while him being a loser mentally ill who drove a taxi for a living.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Still good movies though

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't idolize the characters on the left, but I am an autistic incel so the right side still applies.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you want to talk to women if you are ugly?

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i haven't spoken to a woman that wasn't my mother since junior high which was 16 years years ago, I'm 28 now

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I'm 6'5", former athlete, confident in myself and the work I do, have had many sexual partners and meaningful relationships throughout my life, and I come here to shitpost and laugh at the weird takes and memes.
    I doubt the people gooseposting are serious.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      38 y/o virgin here, don't doubt that wizards live here anon

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    incapable != unwilling
    Black person

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can’t talk to men either.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Frick off homosexual redditor

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone is capable of talking to women
    most people just aren't allowed to because there's nowhere to do that anymore after graduating

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I was obsessed with this girl online and finally got to speak to her and I fricked up terribly, asking her if she thought the vaccines were safe. It finally broke me and I went into psychosis thinking that Joker was literally about me and how evil I was and how funny it will be when the government finally killed me.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why would the government want to kill you? they have plans for you my brother

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    She will think you are so alpha when she sees this post bro. Good job

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how do you approach and talk to a complete stranger?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You don't. Talk to women you see routinely

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Talk to women you see routinely
        haha what women?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The women that you will see routinely when you make having routines a part of your life

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Be born attractive. Grow up attractive. Be attractive. Then you won't think anything of talking to strangers, because everyone will naturally be nice to you.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Even if you're good looking, people can still be shitty to you. No one is immune to having to deal with garbage people. You have such a warped view of society because you refuse to engage with it. Go the frick outside and learn how this shit works.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Are you denying that being good looking puts you on a social easy mode comparative to those who are not? Because if you are you might be living life on easy mode and just don't realize it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Are you denying that having a really repulsive personality will outweigh any amount of good looks when it comes to dealing with normies?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              This is a strawman, and not the topic of the conversation so far. And yes, I deny your assumption in an either or scenario.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Even if you're good looking, people can still be shitty to you
          Yes, but far less often than anyone else.
          >No one is immune to having to deal with garbage people
          Sure, but the Halo Effect is real.
          >You have such a warped view of society because you refuse to engage with it
          Baseless assumptions. I have friends and a social group beyond that, I'm just ugly enough for people to immediately look away.
          >Go the frick outside and learn how this shit works
          I did describe how the world works. Attractive people will naturally be able to talk to more strangers, because they're attractive. You're the one that's struggling with the basic facts of reality.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I used to think this, but then my buddy who's objectively a 3/10 got a gf and now I don't know what my excuse is. He isn't rich or famous or anything either.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Getting a gf isn't the problem. You don't need looks for that. The question was how do you cold approach people. Which is totally different.
          Getting a gf just requires you to put in effort and time.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Getting a gf just requires you to put in effort and time.
            Elaborate?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The shotgun approach anon. Talk to all of them untill one seems interested. Also the more you practice what you are bad at you will get better at over time.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Be social, tell jokes, work on yourself. Just do the things that make people like you. Doesn't matter how ugly you are, some girl will take interest eventually.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Idk could it be that he's actually... talking to women?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Go back

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I mean it doesn’t matter if you are an autist with a personality of a brick wall.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Most people who claim to be autistic, aren't. They're just losers.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Uh huh sure it is pal.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Go get diagnosed from a doctor then, otherwise just accept that it's your justification for not trying.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I was diagnosed moron, so get the dick out of your ass and go larp somewhere else.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            When I describe myself as an autist I don't mean it in the medical sense of the word. It's just easier than saying "I can't read human emotions and don't know how to talk to people unless it's about a topic I have some expertise in."

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I mean it’s pretty spot on, it’s still a sign of being a sperg or autist.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Just takes practice and self-reflection, then a willingness to change. Takes a lot of work, but if I can do it, you can to.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, and that attitide is basically selfish and women don't like selfish men. ACTIVELY listening to someone doesn't mean 'wait for a subject I can flex my powerlevel about while ignoring everything else.' It means paying attention to the conversation regardless of how it makes you feel and giving feedback at appropriate moments. You frickers need to learn the difference between a conversation and a lecture.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                People get visibly annoyed when you ask questions back, they hate being “interviewed”

                Plus any time they tell something about themselves they expect you to say something too. If you dont then they think you are hising something or you are boring and dont do anything
                >I went with Stacy on the weekend to the beach
                >What was it like? Was it fun? Did you enjoy
                >Ewww creep
                Vs
                >Yeah well I didn’t do much over the weekend haha
                >Ewww creep
                Vs
                >Yeah well I went to a party with my five buddies and got super smashed and got chased by cops haha
                >Nice, so hot!

                There is a reason why men that “pay attention and listen” dont get pussy

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I disagree. All of my best loves were won because I took the time to listen to them. I'm not some Adonis of a man either. I simply treated them with respect, got to know them and then went out with them. Eventually I met my wife and things are great. Get your head out of your ass and stop blaming Chad for your lack of social skills.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah nah, either you are dating massive uggos or you are underrating your own attractiveness and charisma
                Girls are fricking annoying by “good listeners” or just treat them as emotional garbage bags because it’s 50 bucks cheaper than a shrink

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it's easier to be a cynical crybaby who blames everybody else for your self-imposed loneliness than to accept responsibility for your situation. I guess you better just get used to paying for hookers that despise you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You would become cynical too after trying hundreds of times and even uggos telling you to frick off, or every girl looking at you with disgust when you talk to them, even cashiers and coworkers are visibly annoyed when they have to talk to you for five seconds.
                I am not obese, I work out, I go to the hairdresser twice a month, I wear good clothes, and yes I even take showers and brush my teeth (whoah!) and the only thing society gives me is cold shoulders, so called friends refusing to even drink a beer with me and when they agree they just dont come at all, meanwhile a small fraction of men steal all positive attention. So yeah maybe I don’t believe in heing a good listener can magically make me attractive when in the middle of good listening to stacy’s problems CHAD walks in the office and literally every femoid prostitute runs up to him giggling and smiling and asking him to go have lunch with them

                But yeah bro just smile more and be more nice, it’s all in your head

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                you would be a lot happier if you didnt invest any energy into these people.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >wait for a subject I can flex my powerlevel about while ignoring everything else
                It's not about flexing, I genuinely don't know how to contribute to a conversation when I don't know things. For example one of my colleagues is way into mountain climbing which I don't know a thing about. So when he starts talking about it all I can do is smile, nod and say dumb shit like "I see" or "that sounds fun". Now in the meantime I have read up a bit on the topic so I can ask meaningful questions, but the first couple of talks were genuinely distressing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                you have to try and build off of things they are talking about, like asking where they want to hike and use that as branch into some other topic.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks, meng. I'll try that next time a similiar situation comes up.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why is BR2049 on there twice? What other LE HECKIN' INCEL movie should replace one of them?

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i wish i wasn't so afraid of killing myself

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    no. women can't talk to me because they caught the latin disease of gushy pussy. it's too late to take away the right to vote but I do believe women should be disallowed from watching professional sports.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can talk to them just fine, but small talk is easy. Getting past that to anything substantial is like Greek to me.
    >I'm like a dog chasing a car. I wouldn't know what to do if I caught one

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I would bite its tires.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can talk to them, they just don't like anything I'm interested in.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Is this you?
    I can talk to women I just don't want to because they have nothing of value to say.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've been talking to a girl online for a few months and she's going to visit my city and wants me to show her around, what do I do? how do I not frick it up?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >how do I not frick it up?
      ply her with drinks
      ????
      profit!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      how big is her penis?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Overwhelm her then rape her

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hey, Anon. The secret to good conversational skills is being willing to actively listen to the other person. I know you're autistic and having to actually listen to a person and treat them with respect is difficult for you but women can tell right away when you're ignoring them and that's why they don't like talking to you. You also need to learn to shut the frick up about Pokemon. Nobody gives a frick about your rare Charizard.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What questions do I ask to open a conversation? I can't listen if there's complete silence because I don't know how to talk to people

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Observe the situation and find something relevant to talk about it. If it's apparent that someone is having a bad day and doesn't want to talk, then leave them alone. You're supposed to learn this shit for yourself in grade school, dammit. But you were a sperg and wanted to focus only on your stupid fricking pokemon garbage.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >But you were a sperg and wanted to focus only on your stupid fricking pokemon garbage.
          I focused on what the teacher was saying and schoolwork in general. I thought someone would approach me and talk but they never did

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm surrounded by people who have never interacted with a woman in their lives.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Women dont have anything intelligent to say, why would i talk to them? They only care about celebrities and useless shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How would you know for sure when you're too scared to talk to them at all?

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes and what about it?

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    unironically just talk to women like you would you a guy and if they think you're unhinged then the problem is you.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why would i want to talk to women, especially at work when 100% are engaged or dating, besides you don't shit where you eat.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Please remove Taxi Driver from that shitty list.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can talk to women and act like I like them. But inside I'm thinking of raping them and punching them in the face, hard. I can keep up appearances.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can’t tell if this thread is infested with normalgays or larpgays.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What do you think?

      Honestly I'm 6'5", former athlete, confident in myself and the work I do, have had many sexual partners and meaningful relationships throughout my life, and I come here to shitpost and laugh at the weird takes and memes.
      I doubt the people gooseposting are serious.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, makes sense. My dumbass should of smelled the bait.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone have the reverse order, Chad wearing a Soijak face

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      normalgay here wondering why people come onto the internet to larp as incels

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    These are my favorite movies, and my wife and I are both autistic

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Good mirning, i hate women.
    Just be yourself, bro.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You homosexuals took the shittiest of bait.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      what's it to you?

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >balding
    >still get acne at 27
    >no haven't had friends since high school
    just

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      use nizoral or try sulfur shampoo, sounds like you have fungus issues.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Is nizoral safe? I've heard of that before and am I also putting that on my face too?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          idk if i'd call it safe since it does have cancer warnings, and yeah you can put it on your face but i feel like it works just fine for facial acne without doing so.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >cancer warnings
            I think I'll skip this

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              lol, there are other treatments for scalp/facial fungus that is more natural, that is just the most realiable.

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >can talk to people, including women really well in 1v1 situations
    >can talk very well when holding a presentation

    >be super shy, quiet and weird when randomly meeting people like neighbors, or when at social events like a party

    It's like I'm a completely different person when in "presentation mode" or "date mode"
    Autism?

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    29yo virgin here. Last week I managed to pick up a girl for the first time of my life but I couldn‘t get my dick up. Wish me luck that I won‘t go soft again when I meet up with her tomorrow. This might be my last chance to lose my virginity before I turn into a wizard next month

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      maybe try focusing on her body more instead of the act itself

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: Depressed incel nerds vs Self hating incel nerds who think they are better than the other nerds because they realize they are buttholes and just need to be open and respect womyn more and give out shitty advice even tho they clearly get no pussy

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They rarely have anything interesting to say.

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Any Femoids here willing to chime in? You can have a free "breasts or gtfo" pass...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The only femoids on Cinemaphile are trannies

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Eternal reminder that if you, for any reason actively talk to, or want to talk to, women then you are a normalgay that NEEDS to go back.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to say frick Black folk
    sneed

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The only guys who have trouble talking to women are guys who think there is such a thing as "game" or where you say the right sequence of words you unlock "attraction" or something kek.

    Attraction is static, all you have to do is to exist in woman's orbit and if she's attracted to you, she'll let you know and give you sex. If not then there's nothing between heaven and earth you can do to change that. So just treat here like you would a guy, exactly the same, and other than that improve your looks and social status as much as possible.

    Being attractive is literally to attract. You can't pursue a woman and "convince" her, that's where incels always cross the line and go harassing random women in the streets and don't take 'no' for an answer and become sex pests, etc.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Only good post in the thread

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    homosexual

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sure, just replace "incapable" with "don't want to"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      poor kitty

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I talk to women the same way I talk to anyone else. Constant creepy eye contact with a monotone voice.

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can talk to women. I just don't enjoy it.
    They usually do most of the talking and I just nod and think of Digimon or whatever.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      hows that been working out? get any gfs?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Had sex with a roommate I had once. She thought she was my girlfriend until I moved out and ghosted her. Does that count?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          lol thats fricked up

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Does it count?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              to her i suppose.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You autistically manipulated her into a sociopathic Friends with benefits situation. You are a woman

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                how do you autistically manipulate someone? sounds pretty amusing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That is how I went from a potential school shooter to having had sex with 86 women in 13 years.
                I uronically put on literally me personalities

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it was very hard for me to kill genetic honesty that comes from my white genes but once you become a sociopath and constantly just lie to everyone you will become more successful in life

                The realization that teling the truth now is equally as bad as getting caught with a lie down the line is usually worse
                I bullshitted mysef into a javascript medior position by not knowing any javascript and learning on the job
                I usually lie to women about being rich and how I have a villa in southern italy that we can visit in a few months after it is renovated and the dumb roastie holes fall for it every single time, then you just dump them after one night in a shitty hotel

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, that's not what happened at all.

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how come when these threads pop up all of you doomers act like you're 1/10 extremely hideous grotesque human beings? you guys need to work on your self esteem man

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you are not 10/10 you might as well be 1/10

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the world can be pretty lonely, i doubt they are as hideous as they claim though.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Or maybe, ugly autistic people are actually real.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        and they all just happen to be in this very thread at the same exact time, right?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's almost like the people in that demographic spend all day on this site haha wouldn't that be crazy who would do that

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Thread about "incapable to talk to women" attracts people who are incapable of that, which are mostly ugly or autistic or both, so why not? I mostly lurk all other threads here, but talk in those about loneliness, because I don't have any other space for this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And you need to put a bullet inside your brain you dumb Black person

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >act like you're 1/10
      statistically 10% of the population must fall into this category. Is it so hard to believe that this place might attract the disposesed?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >He doesn't understand how bell curve distributions work at all
        AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHGAGAGAHAHAHAHHAHA

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I am well versed in the bell curve. It however does not apply here. In a total of 100, 1/10th of the total will fall into the bottom 10%.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            According to a generic bell curve distribution, the bottom 10% of a particular demographic will occupy relatively 0.5 to 1% of the sum

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              And in a sane world that would apply. I wish I had the chart to show you what online dating sites have discovered in female choice in looks. In men it does follow the logical bell curve distribution. In women it is entirely skewed towards the top 10%

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              And in a sane world that would apply. I wish I had the chart to show you what online dating sites have discovered in female choice in looks. In men it does follow the logical bell curve distribution. In women it is entirely skewed towards the top 10%

              Forgot pic.
              Apologies for phone post,

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The internet does that to people. people didn't complain in the 90s when dorks like r. crumb could date homely girls with big asses before the Black folk turned it into a fetish/commodity on social media.

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Taxi Driver is the only good film there.
    Gosling's Blade Runner is shit compared to the original.
    American Psycho and Joker are memes.

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I could post a picture of my wife and kids if I was as insecure as you losers and felt I needed to prove something to a bunch of basement dwelling trolls. But I'm not that pathetic or lonely so I'll just let you guys wonder.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They probably look like this lmao

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Still looks like more family then you'll ever have, incel.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        gross

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This is why I refuse to date or have sex with non-white women

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        is that Linus Tech Tips

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          ye

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            no God please tell me this isnt real

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            which one of those points is wrong?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              1,3,4

              no God please tell me this isnt real

              Yes his nose really looks like that

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No one gives a frick, your shit posts will be forgotten as soon as this thread is archived or deleted by the trannie jannie. You think too highly of himself.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yet we're supposed to care about the constant b***hing from you lonely and delusional incels?

        You fricks are even bigger hypocrites than the women you love to deride.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >supposed to care

          Did anyone forced to come in this thread with your normalhomosexualry? Do you know you can hide threads? Go away homosexual, talking to you is like talking to the average annoying redditor, only here you can brag about having a wife

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Don't you mean your wife's kids?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well, they're technically her kids too. She did go through the trouble of carrying them and birthing them for me after all.

        I guess I better go berate her for not carrying them with more grace and not birthing them quickly enough. It will totally be her fault too if she decides to take the kids and leave me. Fricking prostitute.

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is this the evening COPE thread?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks doc

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yep thats me

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BR2049 is there twice and I only liked the Joker movie. Still can't talk to women (offline).

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Made (You) Look

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah that's me.
    At 42 I realized it will never happen.
    I am sticking with transgender women.
    Even female escorts despise me due to lack of my social skills.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I am sticking with transgender women.
      oof

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You have literally allowed society to bully you into being a homosexual lol

  67. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i am not a chad, I am a lanklet with an apparent gayface. i suppose that's probably quite trendy nowadays though
    i just want to say that on the rare occasion I have spoken to a girl or woman in a nice way it has never worked. Using exclamation marks, overenthusiasm, any emoji other than the crying one pretty much kills conversations. I once swiped right on every fat girl i could find and copy pasted the same message about them sitting on my face as an opener and id say half responded positively, most didnt understand and like 1 wasnt happy. I didnt even want to do it, i just thought it would be funny to write it
    one i went on a date with a girl, I lied about my age (I was 19, she was 23 so I said i was 20) she found out instantly when i tried to buy cigarettes and the shopkeeper said my date of birth, I was 30 minutes late, and in the pitch dark at the car park outside of the concert venue I told her I didnt have tickets, she nearly cried lol, then i pulled them out and we had a good time, im 25 and we are engaged now.
    my point is, be a dickhead just don't be smarmy or passive aggressive because nobody likes it. and if you want to take the piss out of her, take the piss out of everyone else around you far worse

  68. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    99% of woman won't be interested in you/ not compatible with your lifestyle

    1% will

    I have found that 1% to always be 10/10 for me

    God provides them to me when I am on the right path

    I suggest you start doing your pull ups and push ups. You will be on the path soon

  69. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Any other volcels?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You are not a volcel. You're a low value male who is an incel

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >who is an incel
        As anyone can buy a prostitute, there are zero incels. Only volcels

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Cope. Prostitues don't count

          I go on tinder sometimes for a laugh and matching/talking to girls is the easiest thing in the world. However, promiscuity is bad for society.

          anyone can talk to girls on tinder they love the validation but you dont stick your wiener in them

          Because you're ugly

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I go on tinder sometimes for a laugh and matching/talking to girls is the easiest thing in the world. However, promiscuity is bad for society.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Trevor?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I go on tinder sometimes for a laugh and matching/talking to girls is the easiest thing in the world. However, promiscuity is bad for society.

      Based

  70. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >sedevacantism
    >6th edition heldrake spam
    >make the sub private
    >melodica
    >charcuterie
    >fair trade
    >evil gandhi
    >kosher salt
    >the forbidden riff
    >montessori school
    >red scare girl
    >ford pinto gas tank explosions
    >brutalism ugly
    >pan-asian fusion
    >sola scriptura
    >brain in a jar
    >garfield's assassination
    >kratom withdrawals
    >wombat turds are cube-shaped
    >irony bros
    >slavoj zizek
    >"excetera"
    >fermi's paradox
    >nopoo
    >for the 'gram
    >wendy's chocolate frosty is the best condiment
    >william stoner is literally me
    >ron paul /b/
    >doric columns
    >tabletop wargame
    >rise and grind
    >a pickle for the knowing ones
    >grapes of wrath physically impossible
    >lovecraftian
    >dark academia
    >simon carried garfunkle
    >monarchism
    >/r/thathappened
    >invited to the cookout
    >smyth-sewn
    >thoreau's laundry
    >hip hop head
    >vaush moment
    >#morbintime
    >aoc wikifeet sleuths
    >long covid
    >winetasting

  71. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    K and Bateman can talk to women just fine.

  72. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why would I want to speak to a foid, the only things i like talking about are videogames, films and comics and they are incapable of forming a valid opinion on any of them

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