The man has a stacked resume, makes more consistent popcorn schlock than Lucas or Spielberg. I don't really hate a single one of his movies, but I do believe Titanic was more special than Terminator, Avatar, True Lies and The Abyss.
>Made during golden age of practical effects
>shot on film, will look better than digital
>Leonardo DiCaprio's career started with this movie, before Scorsese used him in almost all his movies.
>The historical significance of finding the Titanic, Robert Ballard deserves the credit, but Cameron used real footage of the wreck.
>Call me gay all you want, I think this is James Horner's best score.
>Titanic's box office records are still impressive in 2023, considering it was before capeshit and people in the late 90s hardly pirated movies.
>It's hard to turn 'water' into a villain in any movie, the water in this movie is as intimidating as the T-1000.
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I think T2 is a better movie.
This. T2 is the most perfect summer blockbuster ever made.
and a very good sequel perfectly tying into the first movie. Only the ghost scene was kinda weird. Everything else was kino.
>the ghost scene
that's just in the extended director's cut though. if that version has that ending in the future with sarah and john connor as a senator than that's bad too, but to me the canon version is the first theatrical release. super lean and basically flawless.
yeah, if T2 were a car, you just couldn't engineer any piece in it any more efficiently.
titanic is a different beast and reaches different heights, maybe it's more of a four quadrant film than T2, but you have to first accept a few groaners to get to the good stuff.
I thought Cameron captured the horror of the sinking the best he possibly could, of course you can't replicate the fear the real passengers experienced. The stern scene always got me as a kid, it happened in pitch black in real life and the stern likely killed dozens of people as it slammed down.
It was...for 2 years
>T2 vs Jurassic Park
that's a good cage match actually
Seen both in the theater during their original runs, and I'd still give it to T2 by just a hair. The last act of Jurassic Park is up with the highest highs of T2, but there's just "more" in T2 overall.
It's kinda like picking a favorite kid though. I don't actually prefer one over the other.
JP is a classic but T2 is in a league of its own.
I think Terminator 1 was a better movie.
Rose is probably his most evil villain
The movie aged great, outside of a couple CGI shots when the ship is launching at the start
How does CGI work? Can they just load their CGI save files into the newest version of their programs and add the 8k textures, fix animations, add raytracing, and shit? Or is stuff like CGI baked into the movie and they probably don't have any way to redo it? kinda like how rockstar doesn't have the red dead redemption original source code because it is a spaghetti mess.
this is the mentality that leads to the various star wars special editions. the film is a complete work and a product of its time, there is nothing to add or take out or improve.
the scene with Jack and Rose running away fro the water in the wallway can easily be fixed today, that's more of an error and limited tech issue.
It would make a lot more sense to do it for titanic than the original star wars trilogy though. Star wars used practical effects which had some faults, but didn't really "age" in the same way that old ass 90s cgi ages and now looks terrible, such as the shitty cgi in Titanic.
they can cut out the old CGI and put in new CGI, the question is will they? it's expensive
HE RUSHED AND WAS CRUSHED
It's his opus and deserved every oscar it won
>Rose DeWitt Bukater (Dawson outside of the flashbacks), Jack Dawson, Caledon Hockley, Spicer Lovejoy, Ruth DeWitt Bukater, Brock Lovett, Lewis Bodine, Elizabeth Calvert, Fabrizio De Rossi, Tommy Ryan, Cora Cartmell, Helga Dahl, Trudy Bolt
All the fictional characters created by Cameron.
I was a moronic kid before access to the internet, I thought the fictional characters were real and the events actually happened.
Are people being ironic about liking this piece of shit? Is this board full of 12 yr old girls?
This board isn't for underage users anon. Go post on reddit or discord or something.
A night to remember (1958) is actually the mans titanic movie. With great special effects for its day and lots of attention to historical details with no stupid fictional feminist romantic subplot.
for me it's the nazi film
lmao you're just chinless contrarians that need to go leave.
If you watch interviews from the 90s, unlike Cinemaphilecels say it wasn't because of "GRR WOMYN BAD, they only want to see Leo over and over", but because people said they observed new details during each rewatch.
The amount of replays and fricking women watching this movie over and over again was unparalleled at the time it came out. It was like a high budget version of Casablanca. And this was from the same guy who made Terminator and Aliens. This film is the reason alone Avatar broke box office records despite its shitty plot and effects.
My best friend’s older sister who was 15 or 16 saw it in the theatre 10 or 12 times. Literally went almost every day for 2 weeks straight.
boomers why did this happen? was it twink leo or the whole 1 women choosing between 2 guys thing. I guess I went through a cheaper version with twilight bu I dont understand.
one woman told me she was incredibly attracted to Leo, not just his looks but his character's badass confidence
obviously Leo, they wanna get naked and be painted by him
it's a beautiful people costume drama with a woman-focused love story set during a famous historical tragedy. if there was a bingo card for 'things women love to see in movies' titanic fills almost every box.
Titanic might be one of the best films ever made. Sure it's schmaltzy but so is shit like casablanca. It hits every beat and is timeless.
T2 and Aliens are perfect but also dated.
T2 still stands
Is T2 really so dated? The action scenes still blow me away and they look better than modern marvel slop.
And of course, it all looks real because it is real. A stuntman really did hop on a motorcycle merely a few feet away from the helicopter blades, a stuntman really did fly a heli underneath an overpass, etc.
The only dated elements are the 90s haircuts and the CGI the practical action is peak moving making. Titanic is just in a different league, Cameron made a near sized replica of the ship, no studio is allowing that today.
Yeah but in Titanic you don't have a heli flying just over an overpass and missing it by merely a few feet. I'm not saying Titanic looks bad, I'm saying T2 had way more intricate stunts.
James Cameron is insane. The helicopter actually went under an overpass.
cameron was trying to figure out how to pull it off with camera trickery when the pilot offered to just fly under the fricking thing. insane
>The only dated elements are the 90s haircuts
Which haircut from T2 is dated today?
nta but John Connor's friend I suppose
>T2 and Aliens are perfect but also dated.
Filmmaking craft has actually declined significantly since the era of T2 and Aliens
casablanca's pretty damn avant garde if you think about it. the cliche rom com would be bogart ends up with bergman at the end. if that movie came out today and was directed by rian johnson it would be seen as 'subverting expectations' that she goes back to her husband.
motherfricking movie subverted tropes of it's own genre before its genre was fully fleshed out
For me? It's T2 followed by T1. I even think True Lies is extremely underappreciated. True Lies is better than any of the James Bond/Mission Impossible movies. Titanic is probably the fourth best Cameron movie, followed by Aliens.
True Lies was a full, completely fine movie, that could have ended with arnold kissing jamie with the nuke going off.
Then Cameron goes suprise fricker! there's an extra half hour
my favorite James Cameron movie is The Terminator. Yes, I like it more than T2. No, I will not apologize.
they should make a sequel
No his best films are the first 2 terminators or the abyss.
i will acknowledge that titanic was better than it had any right to be:
- Incredibly predictable plot. Not only does every know it sinks, but the tone of the film from the very start is about a brief love where one member of the couple dies, and we know from the very start one of them lives to be 100
- unlikeable protagonist even if you're not an incel. Jack even points out she's spoilt and selfish
- story that could have been told in 2 hours stretched into 3
- ham-fisted references such as bring up Cal doesn't understand Picasso for no reason other than to emphasis his already obvious personality
And yet...I'll acknowledge it's not bad overall
Gilbert Grape and Romeo + Juliet started Leo's career.
what's eating gilbert grape?
I don't know, maybe his fricking big fat mother?
Nothing will ever top Piranha 2
Feminist garbage. may future generations save us.
hahaha u funny bro,
i remember when i first saw this crap, the scene where rose smokes in her mother face in front of everyone and nobody said anything, then when cal took the cigarette from hands molly looked shocked, yeah buddy i think i don't like this movie that much
I don't think its his best but Aliens is still my favorite James Cameron movie
>Is Titanic James Cameron's best movie?
homie forget about James Cameron's catalog, it's unironically the greatest movie of the 20th century. And unlike Aliens or T2 it's universal as frick, people from both 1899 and 1999 would have the exact reaction watching it, if you showed someone from the victorian era T2 they wouldn't even know wtf is going on.
But titanic is mostly boring outside of the ship breaking up.
You have to be over 25 to.post here
>the only thing which stimulates my brain is collateral damage and special effects
The Marvel era is your fricking fault. You.
>people from both 1899 and 1999 would have the exact reaction watching it
oh yeah, people from 1899 would love the casual nudity and adultery.
Lack of a post-credit scene of Raymond Asquith writing his based letter to The Times knocks it down a couple of points IMHO
elaborate? i am no Titanic scholar
https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/asquith-titanic-conspiracy.html
> Suppose that these resolute men, through the mouth of their resolute leader, a Privy Councillor, and an ex-Law Officer of the Crown, had announced precisely how they intended to make good their oath, videlicet [namely] by causing an exceptionally large iceberg to be placed across the bows of the ship on an exceptionally dark night, and in order to guarantee the result had for many months practised every detail of the contemplated manoeuvre by manipulating dummy icebergs on the waters of Lough Neagh with the assistance of Mr F. E. Smith, K.C., M.P.;
> Suppose that the democracy of Ireland had subscribed a million pounds or so to finance this project, that the project itself was warmly applauded by the greater part of the British press, and that such sober and respected organs of opinion as The Spectator and The Times itself had repeatedly insisted that if the ship should ever be launched colossal bergs might be expected automatically to detach themselves from the surrounding mass and instinctively to block her way, and that, but for the restraining influence of Sir Edward Carson, the premature and spontaneous disruption of the Polar ice would already have filled the harbour of Belfast with invading fragments from the Loyal North;
the sequence of Rose walking around on the sunken hallways to free up Jack was pretty intense
Obviously yes.
It's kind of like, the best boat movie. There are other boat movies sure but this one is most complete. JC's other films fall into more familiar camps, sci-fi, horror, dances with wolves with blue furries, etc. But Titanic is the definitive boatromance, and it's all his.
let's not get ahead of ourselves here. master & commander is still the definitive boat movie. there is no room for women's bullshit in a true boat movie.
Why can't summer be over?
The Avatar movies are better
Yes
Titanic > T2 > Aliens > True Lies > T1 > Avatar > Avatar 2 > The Abyss
They're all amazing
>no Piranha 2
ngmi
Only watched it once, it was fricking awful, not even worth ranking. There's very little of Cameron's signature in it.
If I was going to be thorough I'd put Xenogenesis, T2-3D and his Martini Ranch video in there, and they're all magnitudes better than Piranha 2.
The Abyss is
Oh boy Cinemaphile contrarianism is in full swing now.
No.