is turning ON the subs really this traumatic for the average american?
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quiet talk scenes followed by loud explosions are the main reason I leave subtitles on
This, too many things in movies and shows have an imbalanced audio. I get you want the action scenes to be louder, but too many times the music and sound effects going on completely drown out the speaking lines. And when they want things to be quiet it's too easy to miss things because the director and sound editor didn't catch that in post.
At this point I avoid shit with this issue.
Well then you're going to have to avoid anything made before about 2008. Audio engineering is a completely lost art with the advent of Fruity Loops and Reason.
*made after
Skill issue
Yes, that shit gets annoying as frick. I have neighbors motherfricker, who mastered this shit this way? Whispery hard to hear dialogue then ear splitting explosions and an overbearing soundtrack. Its either play volume rollercoaster all goddam night or just put on subs.
There are compressor/limiter applications that fix this. Audio leveling.
plus if you watch normal TV, advertisements end up way louder, which means you gotta choose loud ads or quiet TV.
and in the case of direct TV,
their dvr system is so shit sometimes volume barely even works on their movies but works fine on the ads. set it to 50 and car barely hear the movie but the ads blare.
The USA is a shit hole and thousands of wealthy people deserve brutal death
My TV has a volume normalizer function, I just leave that on
I just thought my hearing was going to shit
for me, it was the LOTR trilogy that started this
"We're going to minas golgotha to meet with ithaldur bottomwine so that he can tells us how to defeat the urak-gobs"
Who, what and where?
>didn't read the books
nah that's all fine. For me it was the THIRTY MINUTES OF RUNTIME FEATURING TWO MINOR SIDE CHARACTERS SITTING ON A WALKING TALKING TREE WHO TALKS AS IF HES YAWNING THE ENTIRE TIME
Fricking hell, I wouldn't even complain if not for the yawn talking, who the frick is responsible for that.
omg yas fellow redditor upvote for you
are you denying that they included several extensive monologues from a talking tree who sounds as if he's yawning the entire time and are you denying that it's extremely hard to make out what he's saying.
Say all you want, being unable to handle words and pictures simultaneously is a hallmark of low intelligence.
When I was child subtitles were impossible to keep up. It takes practice and dedication to stop and rewind when you miss dialogue. You get extra points for looking up the definition of words you didn't know.
Yet someone children in Europe have no problems
>It takes practice and dedication to stop and rewind when you miss dialogue.
Having to rewind when I missed dialogue is why I started using subs.
The inability to master sound properly is also a hallmark of low intelligence
Yes, sound mixers are moronic these days
Dunc was literally impossible to hear in theaters
the subtitles distract from the picture the director and DP are trying to show you
Peripheral vision exists
Irrelevant, he stated it distracts from the film and it does. Subtitles draw your attention down or up away from the shot
Not being able to understand what they're mumbling distracts me from the kino I'm trying to enjoy.
It has to be about your experiences growing up instead of IQ. White Americans aren't dumber than Europeans but they have much harder time getting used to watching things in sub because they weren't used to it when they were younger. In many European countries 50%+ of stuff on TV is/was subtitled. In my country it was more like 90% of shows I watched growing up were subtitled. In countries that dub more like Germany it's less and that's also partly why their English is shittier than Nordic countries for example.
Is a skill, passive peripheric reading is the same skill you use when driving a car.
>Every movie is mixed for 7:1 (because production companies are cheapskates) despite the fact only autistic boomers own it.
>99% of zoomies watch shit on their phones and laptops
>dialogue inaudible
Really activates the almonds
Sounds like the problem is zoomies.
Good speakers cost less than a TV. phone or laptop.
movies usually come with the legacy 2.0 track and with surround. just need to change it
they are not mixed with that in mind, they just compress the files. it's the exact same poor mastering on the audio, just compressed for a different set of speakers. the levels are not fixed for modern films. even films that are straight to streaming have this problem at base. films and shows now are produced entirely with only rich tourist state citizens in mind. Illinois, New York, New Jersey, California, Florida, Nevada. they keep in mind only the people with money to afford the technology that allows for compatibility with their audio. there's even some shitty Vice or similar channel that made a video precisely about this problem recently.
so if I get 7:1 speakers will I be able to hear things properly?
no, it will be the first step in the never-ending pursuit
somewhere along the line you will find yourself with sound sneks, music stones and cable supporters
No. The sound mixers are incompetent diversity hires and there's no way to make it audible.
yes, but it would be extremly painfull
Depends. I can still barely hear the dialogue in Tenet over those obnoxious violins in the soundtrack on a 11.1.4 Atmos setup with the volume cranked.
I use headphones and it helps a lot.
With a home theatre receiver you can increase the volume of the dialogue channel only. You can also do this in software, I use the Downmix: Center Mix Level option in Kodi.
Subtitles are essential for a logophile.
[PENIS NOISES]
why couldn't he wear clothing
he's your average libertarian
He didn’t give a frick. And why would he? He was a god.
He's unironically too gigabrained for earth. He's only barely paying attention to the events of watchmen, that's why they play out as they did.
>has a quantum view of time
>he views all events at the same time, past present and future
>someone starts blocking this somehow
>first time this has ever happened
>doesn't care
walked out the theatre gg snyder
>why couldn't he wear clothing
He became disconnected from his flesh as it was merely something he had, not something he needed. If I recall he no longer felt heat and cold, the main reason to wear clothing, he only truly reappeared as a man because it was all he'd ever really known.
He left humanity behind.
Well I can't speak for other girls here but for me its a personal ick if a guy uses subtitles and I usually won't stay the night but will be kind enough to finish the film
the average burger cant into reading and also has dubious object permanency, meaning the moment they stop looking at the Marvel movie it ceases to exist just like babies.
Babies cease to exist?
>make shit sound mixes
>blame ears
Because around 15 years ago they stopped giving a frick about mixing the sound correctly for homes. I'm autistic about sound and know what I'm doing and even I have trouble mixing it back to an acceptable level sometimes
Do you like the batman beyond villian shriek?
I only remember that one b***h that gets her DNA spliced to have tiger parts or something
You would like shriek. He is an engineer who specializes in acoustics.
>can't understand what people are saying
>tired of replaying over and over
I hope this question was written by an ai
do normies really?
When I was a teenager, I'd get out late from my fast food job and watch kino when I got home and the parents were sleeping. If I watched on volume 8 on my TV, they could hear it and keep them awake thru the walls. They couldn't hear it at volume 6, but I couldnt hear most dialogue scenes, so I started putting on CC. Volume 7 was perfect, except I've always had OCD about odd numbers and could never keep volumes there.
if I miss a word I will think about it for the rest of the movie.
Its partly shitty mixing and partly most people using shitty speakers, either the built in TV speakers or laptop speakers.
>Don't quite understand important word in a sentence and either sit there distracted hoping context will fill in or rewind the film which really takes you out of the moment
or
>have subtitles as a backup and continue watching film smoothly and uninterrupted
decades ago actors had to pass the test of proper speech (enunciation). now they all mumble to look tough, frick'em
>terrible sound design that makes music and background noises louder than characters speaking
>all actors love to mumble, slur through dialogue and put on vocal fry making them incomprehensible
EVERY MOVIE OR TV SHOW NOW HAS WHISPERING homieS! WHY ARE ACTORS WHISPERING? IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE IN CONTEXT! THEY MIGHT BE IN A CLUB WITH HEAVY MUSIC PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND AND THEY'RE FRICKING WHISPERING!
Yeah. The excuse is that they're mixing for more sophisticated sound systems than in the past. But why in the blue holy everloving frick are all the actors mumbling and whispering now? It makes no fricking sense. It's bizarre. They're clearly doing this shit on purpose, but I can't think of any reason other than to frick with people.
The only theory I've heard is that they want to show off how much microphone technology has advanced over the years. It's audiophiles mixing for audiophiles.
God awful audio mixing.
Its low attention span. Zoomers love being able to absorb the entire scene in a fraction of a second rather than listen to it play out.
abandoning mono was a mistake
as an esl i sometimes think that i still don't understand english properly when i watch movies. but then i found out that even natives turn the subtitles on. i watch shit ton of youtube and twitch and american news and i understand 100% of it even if it's small time streamer or a shitty youtuber with a 10 dollar mic. yet somehow the moment i start to watch some movie i feel like just got a stroke and forgot how to understand speech. there is definitely something extremely wrong with movie audio mixing and the way actors speak. it feels super unnatural incomprehensible - especially when they pretend they have some kind of accent
ESL here, happens the same thing to me with movies and tv shows, youtube, podcasts, actual people talking etc is no problem, the moment I start watching a movie I cant understand half the shit
there is definitely smth funny going on
Same here.
I almost always use subtitles the audio mixing is fricking terrible nowadays. Also it's just nice to catch everything the actors are saying even in older films. Also I'm old.
Can they not make a mix where they turn the dialogue all the way up and make the action stuff quieter.
Because when you’re not a brainlet you read quickly and typically before the character even gets a chance to speak the lines which disrupts the flow of the show. Subtitles are for foreign films or low IQ homosexuals who aren’t capable of reading quickly enough to have it disrupt their enjoyment.
subtitles ruin comedy
I don't like subtitles because they can be distracting and remove tension from a scene if you read them too fast.
I play my subtitles on a separate monitor so I can watch the film pure and just glance over if I don't catch something
I've watched so many foreign shows/films with subtitles I don't even notice I'm reading them anymore.
I dont, in fact I don’t even know how
I don’t even bother watching the video anymore. I just open the .srt file and read that.
I look like this and say this
I will pay you one thousand dollars for a photograph of your naked breasts.
I'm shy teehee
moar
no joke had to do it few times since either the actors cant pronounce words correctly (especially black actors), or since audio mixing was so fricking bad i couldnt hear shit(frick you Nolan, hire a fricking sound guy you fricking hack)
Your hearing is failing moron. Stop wearing headphones all the time.
the opposite, fricking watching nolan movies makes my ears bleed, everything is too fricking loud
It's an intentional choice.
It keeps you from listening to the badly written dialogue.
>is turning ON the subs really this traumatic for the average american?
subtitles allow you to not fully pay attention and use your phone at the same time so of course with smart phones it has become big in the last 15 years. Anyone who uses the excuse of "oh you cant read and watch at the same time?" is cope for the fact that your brain is fried. No subtitles is infinitely more immersive and definitely what the director and dp intended. You don't have subtitles in movie theaters for a reason.
But it's the opposite.
If I have good audible dialogue, I can look away and still get what's happening.
If I have to rely on subtitles then I'll miss things the moment I look away.
>You don't have subtitles in movie theaters for a reason.
American education
Ok big shot give me a reason why then, with proof dip shit. Its because the directors dont want fricking text all on the screen of the movie they made on top of other reasons. Or at least somehow my American education has tricked me to believe it's for those reasons, but I'd love to hear what some moron euroshit has as reasoning for it.
Top hole! Bally Jerry pranged his kite, right in the how's your father. Hairy blighter, dickie-birdied, feathered back on his Sammy, took a waspy, flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie.
No, sorry, didn't get that at all. Perhaps try saying it slower?
I see you weren't just shitposting. My apologies.
In France, you will always have dubbed and subbed options in theaters. Granted, there's 10 times more dubbed screenings than subbed because people don't care that much about other languages here. To me, subbed is the closest version of what the director intended because dubbing a movie strip it of wordplay, culture and weight.
Volume is also so low at theaters these days they could benefit from subtitles or turning up the fricking volume.
>In a 2022 survey of 1,200 people, language learning company Preply determined that 50 percent of Americans used subtitles and closed captions the vast majority of the time they watch content.
Oh that sounds like credible research!
>Gen Z is, overwhelmingly, the generation most likely to be turning on subtitles according to Preply’s numbers, with 70 percent of respondents in the generation saying they use closed captions “most of the time” compared to 53 percent of Millennials, 38 percent of Gen X, and 35 percent of Baby Boomers.
>Another reason is that Gen Z displays starkly different viewing habits than Baby Boomers in terms of where they’re watching their movies and shows. According to Preply, 57 percent of all Americans watch shows or movies or videos in public on their mobile devices, but a very significant 74 percent of Gen Z do the same.
They're not even watching on a tv which makes the whole article pointless.
It's all been said. Poor mixing, poor speakers. Fortunately I'm not deaf so I never use subtitles.
It all started when moronic studio sound techs thought they didn't need to mix dialogue through the front L and Rs at all and could just have if all in the centre channel.
Dumbest fricking development in cinema history and directly led to Nolan's bullshit.
Its not very entertaining but its probably just that TVs do have really terrible sound without additional speaker systems these days. They're so thin now there's no fricking room for a decent set of speakers in there anymore.
>turn on tv
>Black folks talking nonsense
>has to put subtitles if you want to keep up with what's going on
mostly that
Subtitles ruin movies. I’m not here to read a fricking movie, I’m here to watch it. Little words at the bottom distract the eye from the image, and ruin the natural flow of dialogue by giving you the line before the actor finishes saying it.
I don't mind subtitles in video games because the facial animation tends to be uncanny so it's nice for my eyes/brain to get momentarily distracted reading the text. But human expressions are...human so I'd rather fully take in what the characters are feeling than read subtitles. Thanks for reading my blog.
My grandma used to watch movies with us and 99% of the time her hand was on the remote lowering or raising the volume. She lived in a big house, the walls were insulated, the next neighbor was far away yet she still was paranoid people could hear it outside
Audio normalization in sound design apparently is dead.
Sound designers of today are fricking pathetic
>But but but, they don't know if you have 2.0, 3.1, 5.1, 7.1 audio systems!
Same situation in the 00s, yet everything could be heard still regardless of your speaker setup.
I watched a bunch of shows from England like Happy Valley which requires subs because the accents are very thick
i wish these streaming services at least offered english subtitles without CC
More and more people have to live in small densely packed houses houses and apartments like the rest of the world so it's only courteous to keep the TV volume down and use captions.
Talent erasure. Nobody knows proper speech and how to mix audio anymore.
>Movies, flicks, features, shows, vids, broadcasts
Subtitles
>Domestic Films and Kino
No Subtitles
>Foreign Films and Kino
Subtitles
Its that simple. If you want to watch a movie like The Godfather with subtitles thats fine if you're multitasking, playing vidya, have people over, or are generally not paying attention, but you're not really watching it unless you turn off the subtitles and pay attention. You literally cannot see physical and visual details when your eyes spend 90% of the movie scrolling across the bottom 5th of the screen. If you've only watched a film/kino with subtitles you haven't seen it.
It's because modern movies cannot into audio mixing so you absolutely need the subtitles.
Remember:
If your subtitles aren't yellow then you aren't watching kino.
It’s better for you to watch with subs on.
Its not that important what characters say, stop watching movies with subtitles.
monotonous background music that neither punctuates a scene or adds emotion. just drones