Is Wes Anderson falling off? What did?

Is Wes Anderson falling off? What did Cinemaphile think?

Good not great, don't understand why the background playwright bit had to be a thing instead of a fantastical town in the middle of nowhere with science shenanigans. WA does well with color and composition, something horridly absent when he's trying to be cute and break the 4th wall. French Dispatch was dogshit, at least this was better

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    completely mid
    as in, I am too midwit to appreciate the play within the narrative

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is there to appreciate? Enlighten me homosexual

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Visually appealing, cool background setting, sweet soundtrack, horrendous writing and plot

        Exposed his truly autistic style of character direction. No one in this film behaves in a human way, everyone is a complete social spastic apart from the himbo cowboy.

        I wonder if that's how he sees all human interaction, a series of awkward dialogues cut with silence and interruption.

        I liked this a lot and thought it was very well written. It's about how we need dreams / fantasy to escape into, to act as a catalyst for change. Hence "you can't wake up if you don't fall asleep." That is why the movie presents multiple layers of reality. The city of Asteroid City and the "fantasy" of the alien visit forces every character to be sequestered from their normal lives / problems and gives them a place / dream where they can enact change. If everyone had left when they were originally supposed to, Brainiac would never have had worked up the courage to kiss the girl he likes, Augie would never have fallen in love, etc. The play of Asteroid City is the "dream" for the actors, the writer and the director who is literally trying to escape facing his divorce by living in the play(house), which is partly why the play is about letting go of a woman who you used to love.

        Augie's actor becoming subsumed by his character, using the play to help him get over the death of the writer (who he loved) the same was as his character gets over the death of his wife, the same way a viewer could relate to the film and use it to help them get over the loss of a loved one. This points to a meta commentary on how we interact with movies / fiction, specifically Wes Anderson movies which are so dream like and unreal in their presentation, with their vivid colors that contrast against the black and white "reality" and how we can use these temporary dream-movies to catalyze our own realizations and internal changes (Anderson even makes a joke about how his characters usually have a very stilted delivery when Augie is rehearsing lines, Midge tells him to use his grief, and his delivery is virtually unchanged)

        That is why the entrance and exit from, Asteroid City are bookended with cops chasing criminals and nuke tests, because these are the perils of reality that we can momentarily escape from in Asteroid City

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Dude watch movies for escapism
          >Except this one, this one you have to think about the fact that you're using escapism instead of just enjoying it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      "I still don't get the play" "Great, finish the play." Are we always supposed to understand our fantastical dreams or can we not fully understand or appreciate them till we are awake?

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    more like assteroid city. because they movie is ass

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Visually appealing, cool background setting, sweet soundtrack, horrendous writing and plot

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Exposed his truly autistic style of character direction. No one in this film behaves in a human way, everyone is a complete social spastic apart from the himbo cowboy.

    I wonder if that's how he sees all human interaction, a series of awkward dialogues cut with silence and interruption.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Autistic people cannot and should never have ever ben involved in anything creative. Not even joking.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >don't understand why the background playwright bit had to be a thing instead of a fantastical town in the middle of nowhere with science shenanigans
        this i still liked it but this fricking really ruined it for me i just wanted the town and story as is

        sorry to say but the majority of us in the industry are or some sort of mental frick up story tellers arent normal and never have been get over it loser despite being mental frick ups we are further along in life than you

        [...]
        [...]
        I liked this a lot and thought it was very well written. It's about how we need dreams / fantasy to escape into, to act as a catalyst for change. Hence "you can't wake up if you don't fall asleep." That is why the movie presents multiple layers of reality. The city of Asteroid City and the "fantasy" of the alien visit forces every character to be sequestered from their normal lives / problems and gives them a place / dream where they can enact change. If everyone had left when they were originally supposed to, Brainiac would never have had worked up the courage to kiss the girl he likes, Augie would never have fallen in love, etc. The play of Asteroid City is the "dream" for the actors, the writer and the director who is literally trying to escape facing his divorce by living in the play(house), which is partly why the play is about letting go of a woman who you used to love.

        Augie's actor becoming subsumed by his character, using the play to help him get over the death of the writer (who he loved) the same was as his character gets over the death of his wife, the same way a viewer could relate to the film and use it to help them get over the loss of a loved one. This points to a meta commentary on how we interact with movies / fiction, specifically Wes Anderson movies which are so dream like and unreal in their presentation, with their vivid colors that contrast against the black and white "reality" and how we can use these temporary dream-movies to catalyze our own realizations and internal changes (Anderson even makes a joke about how his characters usually have a very stilted delivery when Augie is rehearsing lines, Midge tells him to use his grief, and his delivery is virtually unchanged)

        That is why the entrance and exit from, Asteroid City are bookended with cops chasing criminals and nuke tests, because these are the perils of reality that we can momentarily escape from in Asteroid City

        gonna tell you right now that as a writer we know how easy it is to manipulate you people and you just proved it with your essay but i do appreciate you crazy autists or else i wouldnt have a job

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I really liked the cuffed interactions, it makes the actors try harder. Wes basically made them his little b***hes with the exception of Hanks character who was the only one who communicated like a normal human

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The movie's a play. All the characters speak in the playwright's voice. How did you not get that?

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    he already fell off with darjeeling, moonrise kingdom, grand budapest, and isle for dogs (his rock bottom). french dispatch and asteroid city are his return to form but idk if he'll ever hit the peaks of royal tenenbaums and life aquatic ever again

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This got a savage review in a local paper that usually jerks off artsy liberal shit. They also panned Elemental despite the whole paper always shilling for meme diversity.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wait what's this play shit? Wes Anderson literally pulled a bait and switch on the plot?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      He uses a play, presented in the style of old televised playhouse tv programs from the 50s, as a framing device for the Asteroid City story presented in the trailer. What you see in the actual town of Asteroid City is actually a play, but is presented as reality to us the viewer and still takes up like 85% of the screentime. The play framing device is used for jokes and to add context to things in the Asteroid City storyline, as well as a way to quickly explore the thematic side of the story.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ehhh

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I enjoyed it a lot, he didn't lean on it too much and it had an actual point to it by the end

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wes Anderson has used weird framing devices in the past, but I feel like this one is too much of a "Nothing matters" framing. If it's a play then frick it, you know? Why should I care about any of the characters? It's different from a normal real life play, putting a play inside a movie is telling the audience that within the fictional story, a fake story is happening. I don't see the point.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              see

              [...]
              [...]
              I liked this a lot and thought it was very well written. It's about how we need dreams / fantasy to escape into, to act as a catalyst for change. Hence "you can't wake up if you don't fall asleep." That is why the movie presents multiple layers of reality. The city of Asteroid City and the "fantasy" of the alien visit forces every character to be sequestered from their normal lives / problems and gives them a place / dream where they can enact change. If everyone had left when they were originally supposed to, Brainiac would never have had worked up the courage to kiss the girl he likes, Augie would never have fallen in love, etc. The play of Asteroid City is the "dream" for the actors, the writer and the director who is literally trying to escape facing his divorce by living in the play(house), which is partly why the play is about letting go of a woman who you used to love.

              Augie's actor becoming subsumed by his character, using the play to help him get over the death of the writer (who he loved) the same was as his character gets over the death of his wife, the same way a viewer could relate to the film and use it to help them get over the loss of a loved one. This points to a meta commentary on how we interact with movies / fiction, specifically Wes Anderson movies which are so dream like and unreal in their presentation, with their vivid colors that contrast against the black and white "reality" and how we can use these temporary dream-movies to catalyze our own realizations and internal changes (Anderson even makes a joke about how his characters usually have a very stilted delivery when Augie is rehearsing lines, Midge tells him to use his grief, and his delivery is virtually unchanged)

              That is why the entrance and exit from, Asteroid City are bookended with cops chasing criminals and nuke tests, because these are the perils of reality that we can momentarily escape from in Asteroid City

              the point is that the characters putting on the "play" use it to find catharsis, the playwrite is a stand in for Wes Anderson and the other people are a stand in for the audience and actors and how they engage with Wes Anderson movies and why Wes Anderson movies are the way they are

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah nah. I was interested in a kooky story about a roswell-esque town finding aliens. I don't give a shit about Wes Anderson's meta ass-huffing. Typical trailer bait and switch.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't care about the point of why he uses the frame narrative, it makes the whole movie pointless. Grand Budapest and French Dispatch have good frame narratives because the stories within the story are actually real, so you care about the characters and the story. I actually like most Wes Anderson movies a lot, but you are making it sound like this movie is just a lame attempt at pontificating a "point" even though Wes never needed to do that even at his most insufferable, the plot and characters always were the focus first and foremost. I'll probably see this but I'm not particularly hopeful about it.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it. But also didn’t understand the need for the playwright narrative frame.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      see

      [...]
      [...]
      I liked this a lot and thought it was very well written. It's about how we need dreams / fantasy to escape into, to act as a catalyst for change. Hence "you can't wake up if you don't fall asleep." That is why the movie presents multiple layers of reality. The city of Asteroid City and the "fantasy" of the alien visit forces every character to be sequestered from their normal lives / problems and gives them a place / dream where they can enact change. If everyone had left when they were originally supposed to, Brainiac would never have had worked up the courage to kiss the girl he likes, Augie would never have fallen in love, etc. The play of Asteroid City is the "dream" for the actors, the writer and the director who is literally trying to escape facing his divorce by living in the play(house), which is partly why the play is about letting go of a woman who you used to love.

      Augie's actor becoming subsumed by his character, using the play to help him get over the death of the writer (who he loved) the same was as his character gets over the death of his wife, the same way a viewer could relate to the film and use it to help them get over the loss of a loved one. This points to a meta commentary on how we interact with movies / fiction, specifically Wes Anderson movies which are so dream like and unreal in their presentation, with their vivid colors that contrast against the black and white "reality" and how we can use these temporary dream-movies to catalyze our own realizations and internal changes (Anderson even makes a joke about how his characters usually have a very stilted delivery when Augie is rehearsing lines, Midge tells him to use his grief, and his delivery is virtually unchanged)

      That is why the entrance and exit from, Asteroid City are bookended with cops chasing criminals and nuke tests, because these are the perils of reality that we can momentarily escape from in Asteroid City

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh. Makes sense. Thank you.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can't chuck up unless you fall sneed.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    was it peanut butter bacon flavored?

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i thought wes anderson's film Symmetry and Quirky #15 was really good because it had a lot of symmetry and quirkiness.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yeah except all his characters act like this in every movie of his since Moonrise Kingdom.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Tom Hanks his new Bill Murray?

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ever since Moonrise Kingdom this guys been sniffing his shit and thinking it smells great.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I see Tom Hanks and I'm worried I'm supporting some Epstein Scientologist. Dude is creepy, putting on Mr. Rogers skinsuit, the frick.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >TAKE ME DOWN
    >TO THE ASTEROID CITY
    >WHERE THE SAND IS BEIGE
    >AND THE GIRL ARE PRETTY
    >TAKE
    >ME
    >HOOOOME
    >YEEEEAH

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kek

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been looking for a good reason to make a fan edit of a film. Maybe if I see Asteroid City and like some parts I'll make an edit without all the play bullshit so it's just a fun story about people looking for ayys.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe but that seems like you wouldn't get a lot out of it, there are scenes and info tidbits about the Asteroid City play that the audience doesn't see and are only offhandedly mentioned by actors in the play

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's fine, I just want a simple aliens story with Wes Anderson cinematography. That's all the trailers made it out to be, that's all I wanted.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yes? Why would I make an edit that doesn't change anything? What would the point be? An edit is supposed to be transformative, moron.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I know what I like, that's all there is to it. I won't make the edit if I hate the rest of the movie though.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is Wes Anderson falling off
    he's been coasting for about a decade now, never does anything creative, just rehashing the same stuff

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hmm, sounds like a cool idea for a movie ruined by some cringe ass side plot. Just like in the movie NOPE, by Black personman. What should have been a simple kill the monster movie, turned into a “I am le deep, spectacle is bad” bullshit. Why are filmmakers so shitty at making sci fi movies now? Are they embarrassed at making a simple alien movie they have to add cringe Christopher Nolan editing?

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mid not great
    That's all of his films. The Life Aquatic and Moonrise Kingdom are watchable one time.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it, and I think I was pleasantly surprised by how much the movie is about using this play as a springboard to talk about personal problems like grief, as opposed to straightforward first contact story that was implied by the trailers
    One scene that I found odd was when Tilda Swinton talks to Woodrow in the tent towards the end, the way they were talking seemed like there was a sexual tension that kind of came out of nowhere, and I can't tell if it was for comedic effect or if I'm just reading something that isn't there

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This along with other things makes me think he planned more scenes. Do the car chases, atomic bombings, or the broken car parts ever pay off?

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never saw it. French Dispatch was pretty underwhelming apart from seeing the french chick naked.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    > WA does well with color and composition

    zoomers should be range banned

    >mommmy the colors were so... luscious
    >the cinematography was so... crisp. every frame is a... painting that can hang on my... refrigerator.

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