Isn’t this discrimination?
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Isnt this discrimination?
Isn’t this discrimination?
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Seems more like Hollywood letting their circlejerk keep going by ignoring anything outside of it
yes
That Award exists basically just to give Disney another Oscar.
It isn't just anime that gets gypped, even DreamWorks is treated like shit.
Weird since Disney Studios proper didn't win until 13 years later with Frozen.
Pixar was bought in 05-06.
No surprise that is also when the award became locked down to just Disney with the exception of Rango.
Finding Nemo is such a garbage movie I can't believe it won over Sinbad or the Triplets of Belville
>I can't believe Finding Nemo won over Sinbad
You're kidding, right?
Yes, but that's how it always was, in the 40s MGM won most of the Oscars for it's Tom & Jerry shorts while WB got cucked, it wasn't until the late 40s and 50s that they started to win some Oscars mostly with Silvester shorts because apparently the people at the Oscars had a fetish for cats
Looney Tunes shorts that won the Oscars in order:
>Tweetie Pie(Sylvester & Tweety) directed by Friz Freleng(1947)
>For Scent-imental Reasons(Pepé Le Pew & Penelope Pussycat) directed by Chuck Jones(1949)
>Speedy Gonzales(Speedy Gonzales & Sylvester) directed by Friz Freleng(1955)
>Birds Anonymous(Sylvester & Tweety) directed by Friz Freleng(1957)
>Knighty Knight Bugs(Bugs Bunny & Yosemite Sam) directed by Friz Freleng(1958)
Sylvester won more Oscars than any other Looney Tunes character
Bugs, Speedy, Sam, Tweety, Penelope and Pepe all have Oscars but Daffy didn't got shit
It’s weird how the most influential and popular LT shorts (What’s Opera Doc, Duck Amuck, The Great Piggy Bank Robbery, etc) weren’t even nominated.
To be fair, Sylvester is based as frick. Definitely in the top 3 of the most recognized and liked of the Looney Tunes cast.
Absolutely. The best thing about him is he can be anything an episode needed him to be - hero, villain, tormentor or pain magnet - and it never feels unnatural. Hell, there's even some shorts where he goes from being one to another in the same episode (A Mouse Divided, Birds Anonymous) and it still works. He's perfect in that sense.
It's funny to think that they're so eager to bury two of their Oscar winners (Pepé & Speedy) rather than promote them.
Pepe did nothing wrong
Oscars means jackshit and the boomers in charge don't even know anime exists in 90% of cases
Does anyone worth their salt even care for the Oscar’s anymore?
You know foreign countries have their own film awards, right? The Oscars are primarily an American contest, and secondarily an Anglophone contest. Only two foreign language films have ever won best picture, for example. Compared to that animated picture has a better foreign ratio!
That said the animated picture award is obviously biased towards disneyslop
Yeah I don't understand why the Oscars are treated as a global award when it should be american only. I'm not even american and I understand this. I guess since it goes against the very premise of globalism, it's a no-no.
american exceptionalism is a hell of drug
We should be lucky for anything. Snobs have always been pricks to animation for no reason.
>hey look guys they gave me a certificate for a new category that they just invented wooow
Where the frick are #OscarsSoWhite and #StopAsianHate?
>The hollywood circlejerk awards awrd hollywood
I am shocked. Shocked and dismayed.
Next you'll tell me that some companies pay reviewers for good scores and/or use bots to pump up scores on review sites.
>2008
Ponyo
>2013
The Wind Rises
>2014
When Marnie Was There
>2016
In This Corner of the World
These would be good choice. Just sayin'. It's there, if you want it.
Ponyo was shit
So was The Wind Rises, but it was total Oscar bait
I hate to sound like a Rick and Morty fan but clearly you were too stupid to get the point of the movie.
It was fine
Agreed
I loved Ponyo but Wall-E deserved it.
Ponyo came out in america on 2009. Academy nominates a japanese film on the year that it premieres in america. Spirited Away and Howl came out in 2001 and 2004 in japan, yet academy treated them as 2002 and 2005 films due to their delayed american releases.
Alternatively, maybe no anime has been good enough to be nominated since?
It's discrimination, but not by race or nationality. It's culture, and that's okay. It's an American award, it's going to reflect American tastes- or more specifically, the tastes of a tiny group of Americans who largely congregate on the West coast.
Artistic awards are not objective. They never can be. You'll be much happier if you accept this and get over it. Why would you look to Americans to be an authority on anime, anyway? That in and of itself is kind of arrogant. Anime doesn't need our validation.
The Oscars are not Cannes or Venice, they clearly prefer to promote american movies, with few exceptions.
>isn't this discrimination?
It's pretty discriminating of the person who made that tweet to think japan is the only other country that does animation.
Never really understood the Cannes or Venice movie festivals. Are they for Euro releases and awards? Are there animation in it too or is it all fartsy avant garde stuff?
>or is it all fartsy avant garde stuff?
No its all sorts of things really. Over the years even pretty bad comedies have gotten the nomination or won the award.
>nooo my anime with the scantily clad child but is actually a 500 year old dragon didn't win the oscars it must be rigged
have a nice day.
>Spirited Away
I mean it's arguably Ghibli's peak but the real reason it won was because it just had a lot of buzz that year and no weeb movies since have garnered enough normie appeal. And as we've all learned repeatedly a majority of the people voting on these awards are normies who just pick the movie that made their kids shut up the longest and many won't even watch it themselves.
It's a well-known fact and an easy Google search to learn that the reason why Disney keeps winning every single time, is because the viewers in charge of the nominations don't watch any of the films all the way.
They might get one Disney film, one Dreamworks film, one Blue Sky film, one anime film, and I dunno, Spider-Verse, for example and most of the reviewers will go: "I dunno what the frick a Miles Morales is but it gave my kid a boner for spiders so I nominate vote this one."
It's partly Hollwood because Disney is a known name, but a lot of it boils down to they don't bring in voters who're animation connoisseurs who vote based on the beauty of the craft. They give it to the common Billy-Bob and Momma Mindy who leave the DVD so their mentally moronic child can frick off for 2 hours.
Out of all those choices, Finding Nemo/Happy Fee/Big Hero 6 weren't all that great of films. Those should've and could've been anything else.
what were the other nominees for 2003? finding nemo deserves an oscar much moreso than a lot of later winners.
Brother Bear and The Triplets of Belleville
The fotmer being forgettable and the latter being too artsy fartsy for the category
The Oscar's are stupid anyway. I always stand by the opinion that these awards should be community voted instead of picked by who the frick knows. Otherwise it's not a real award. It'd actually mean something if a bunch of actual animation fans came together to pick a film of the year.
Could be because anime isn't American and it's an American award show you fricking morons. Stuff gets lost in translation.
maybe ghobli should make more interesting movies
skill issue
>awards ceremony that has a "Best Foreign Film" category doesn't promote non-American cinema
Gee. Golly. You're a tard if you care about awards anyway. More often than not an award like this is a clear mark of mediocrity.
The Academy doesn't watch animated films. Spirited Away won because artgays jerk offd furiously to it, despite the fact it was VERY dull and tedious. I challenge you to find anyone on Cinemaphile talking about Spirited Away in the past ten years.
>despite the fact it was VERY dull and tedious
That's like your personal opinion that millions of people, including me, disagree with.
> I challenge you to find anyone on Cinemaphile talking about Spirited Away in the past ten years.
Use the archive and you will see hundreds of discussions.
Cinemaphile hates Ghibli because they're too normie.
They love Miyazaki as a person though, because he is a prick. At best you'll get hornyposting over Eboshi from Princess Mononoke.
No, this is just a schizo or a child who doesn't understand that the average academy voter doesn't watch anime. There is no conspiracy, most Oscar winners also invest a lot more money into campaigning during awards season. These awards don't mean shit for that reason
we're talking about Nominations here
Oscar campaigns start before nominations are announced.
The Academy of Motion Pictures & Sciences has a little over 8,000 members with all them being in one of the 18 (it's really 19) different branches.
Of the branches only two are related to animation, that being "Visual Effects" (which doesn't even really count) and "Short Films and Feature Animation".
Because both short films and feature animation are combined, they make animation credits are optional which leads to most of the members in this branch being douche bags who don't know shit about animation, who only here because they're into short films.
Members vote for five movies to be potential nominees pertaining to the branch they belong to, so long as it's:
>Over 40 minutes long
>Was released in Los Angelos county
>Movie's distributor submits an OSC in December
>Made it's theatrical run that year
After the potential nominees are picked by the branch they crunch the votes and determine the four nominations...
the problem with all this, is that once the official nominees are picked everyone in the academy gets to vote on every other category defeating the whole fricking point of separating the branches.
How much do you want to bet Miyazaki's How Do You Live is going to win next year? It's the last chance to give him another award before he probably dies.
Zero dollara. It's going to Spider-Man.
Only israelites can be discriminated against and black people when it profits israeli industry.
Lol Rango is in there.
Anyway, don't you know the academy awards and the Oscars and stuff, they're all fake?
stop watching israeli award shows
Do Japs even care for some American awards show?
The vast majority of anime films are bad. Your Name is the blandest shit I ever saw.
Imagine if Cars won instead of Happy Feet (which it should have). That would've been an historical 5 wins in a row for Pixar.
Paprika should have won the Oscar that year.
Paprika didn’t even get nominated. Anime never gets nominated unless it’s made by Ghibli.
Pixar was so butthurt about losing to Happy Feet that they added this to the credits of Ratatouille.
I bet it still burns their asses to this day that Monsters Inc lost to a movie that was basically 90 minutes of mocking Michael Eisner and calling him a manlet
I imagine Pixar being neutral to the first Shrek, yet hating the sequels.
I call bullshit on Brother Bear being nominated instead of Millennium Actress (whose american premiere was in 2003)
A pattern that you can see in all of these movies is that they are either for children or for families. MA is for adults.
If you’re not a white man, a israelite, or Disney you are fricked.
Anyone know who won for 2022? And 2023?
Disney seems empty handed and I can’t see Elemental winning this time.
Disney still has Wish coming out, which seems like it'll be a generic Disney princess musical movie. So it'll at least make money
>being so afraid of asiatictoons that you rig the criteria to keep them from winning
Typical Amerimutts don't have the skill or fortitude to compete with Japan on an artistic level so they just israelite everything up to keep the illusion of being relevant in the animation world.
I can't wait for your industry to die; at this rate Korea and China will be running circles around you
>every Pixar film of 00s was nominated, and most of them won
>only computer generated Dreamworks non sequel films of 00s that were nominated are Shrek, Shark Tale and Kung Fu Panda. Only Shrek won
>Shrek
>Spirit : Stallion of the Cimarron
>Shark Tale
>Kung Fu Panda
>How to Train Your Dragon
>The Croods
>The Boss Baby
>Puss in Boots : The Last Wish
Only non sequel Dreamworks films that got nominated. TLW isn't a sequel in my book.
Why didn't it get a nomination in 2010? Disney poured their heart on this film.
It didn't really make a lot of money for some reason
It did more money than HTTYD, which got nominated. No excuse.
Box office doesn't necessarily translate to awards. It all boils down to the judge's arbitrary tastes.
I imagine it went something like
>"No more Japanese films!"
>a fear years later, Wallace wins
>"I SAID NO FOREIGN FILMS!"
>"You said Japanese fi-"
>"How was I meant to know the Limeys made movies? From now on, AMERICA ONLY"
Worst animated film to ever get that particular academy nomination. The script is a load of nonsensical tripe.
This slop getting nominated in 2011 and Tangled being ignored in 2010 is a fricking crime.
>Refugee