It does not make sense for the X-Men and the Avengers to exist in the same universe.
It does not make sense for the X-Men and the Avengers to exist in the same universe.
It does not make sense for the X-Men and the Avengers to exist in the same universe.
Yes it does.
I actually think it makes less sense for the Fantastic Four to be in the same universe as the Avengers and X-Men
x men is 50/50 if you go celestial origin for mutants it makes sense otherwise it’s questionable.
avengers and fantastic four make a shitload of sense and don’t really conflict with each other.
because classic ff4 would deal with cosmic and the really weird villains like moleman etc who it’d be super problematic for the avengers to face.
ff4 are also facing much harder opponents on average and win through plot/luck and reeds super science bullshit.
the guy who brought up spiderman existing in the same universe as x men is right though.
spiderman doesn’t make much sense being in the same universe as mutants.
tbh mutants are the weakest link in marvel as they don’t make much sense in the greater marvel narrative.
everything else can be handwaved to some extent except mutants.
No the Avengers sharing the universe makes perfect sense you moron, because they're lead by a guy in a robot suit and a guy born a human and made into a super soldier to stop the nazis, both who look extremely normal. So does Hank and Janet and Hawkeye etc. People would have no trouble separating them from the guys born with dangerous powers. The Avengers would just make them think that they don't need any mutants to save the world because they've got their good old American boys and girls to save it, and protest the inclusion of any of them into the Avengers.
It does not make sense for the X-Men and any beloved characters who look inhuman to exist in the same universe. Everyone would assume Spider-Man was a mutant no matter what he said, for example, because he's creeping everyone out with the way he crawls down walls and contorts himself to dodge things while wearing a costume that covers every inch of skin. There'd be millions of people believing him to look like a spider version of Nightcrawler, hiding it under his costume to try and trick them. The Fantastic Four would also be feared after gaining powers, with people thinking the well-known scientist had been killed and replaced by a mutie, with Doom spearheading the conspiracy theories.
Maybe muties are just uniquely loathsome.
I feel the X-men would be cooler if they were in their own universe instead of just mixed in with everyone else in Marvel. At least, the general concept/idea of the mutants and their conflict against non mutants and mutant extremists.
Wrong
Mutants in the 60s were kids whose parents worked on the atom bombs and so their hamate’s were affected and though feared, worked with the US government.
There was one engineer who built a test model called a Sentinel and it went crazy, forcing him to sacrifice his own life to stop it.
By the 80s they had a poor reputation but many heroes and people would still defend them against a world that hates them for not much reason other than they had superpower by cosmic accident.
Somehow Marvel got addicted to the constant high drama of Claremont without ever having the resolution he thought he could pull off.
Dumb
X-Men work as long as their small in numbers and stay clandestine and secretive. Post-Morrison's bullshit you really have to work to have it make sense.
You are on Cinemaphile.
You see all those schizoposts about >le evil trannies
And you still think anti-mutant bigotry makes no sense?
Mutants don't rape kids.
Yes they do.
Why do you think raising the kids on Krakoa was entrusted to the one guy on the island who'd taken a vow of celibacy, even though he was a known religious extremist who was obviously going to radicalize them? Because he was the one guy they could trust not to rape them.
>catholic
>trust not to rape kids
Incorrect.
The X-Men, in particular, don't make sense without Avengers.
Thinking otherwise is a brainlet take common amongst X-Men fans who have never come close to actually understanding the X-Men.
It worked until it didn't. And it hasn't for more than 20 years now. Arguably the problems started in the 80s with the direction Claremont took the X-Men into, but by the 2000s we hit a point where X-book writers were just being abusive in their handling of other Marvel characters, and presenting them not solving all the mutants' (largely self-inflicted) problems for them as some kind of massive moral failure.
Marvel won't ever reboot, but something like the 90s Heroes Reborn situation is the best kind of solution, where the mutants are contained in their own universe, their own continuity, and characters who belong to other corners of Marvel, like Franklin, Wanda, Pietro, Firestar, Whirlwind, etc are just all retconned into never having been mutants.