The tendency people have to overrate the first "artsy" anime films they see and tout them as the best despite their understanding being completely surface level
"Mother Goose Syndrome" is, in part, a result of having so much of your need for physical nurturing met in cuddling your baby; your need for hugs may have decreased temporarily.
It's literally spirited away with the backdrop of The Wind Rises. The main character struggles with his mother's death and by the time you realize who Himi is, he's completely over it. The literal bird shit showing up multiple times was disgusting. For how well done the art is the story is so fricking lackluster I was close to just leaving the theatre. It takes like 40 minutes to actually get into the fricking plot.
Massively filtered, this movie is nothing like Spirited Away outside of "character goes into another world" and you described why. This isn't a fast paced adventure movie it's a weird and reflective abstract art film. The most comparable movie from this year would be Beau is Afraid because they're both super self indulgent surreal and slow semi-autobiographical odysseys except this ones way better and actually good because it was made by a based old jap lump of coal and not a neurotic israelite. I think this movie will be praised very highly in time but it's too strange and slow for your average 2023 movie goer. The story in this movie is minimal and it's more about quietly spending time with the characters but the granduncles world is packed with so much more meaning than anything in spirited away (I still think Spirited Away is a better movie though). I need to re-watch it soon, maybe when I look closer it'll turn out I'm wrong and it's just a bunch of nonsense I was reading into too closely
>it's a weird and reflective abstract art film.
Convolutedness does not make a film an "art film". Art is not meant to be incomprehensible or only accessible for those who reach a certain level of pseud. The movie is beautiful, true, but it has significant flaws in its story which cannot be fully explained away by Miyazaki being "artsy". The man packed too much in without sufficient explanation or time given to explore his ideas, and it does bring down the movie somewhat.
>significant flaws in its story >packed too much in without sufficient explanation or time given to explore his ideas
Can you elaborate on these? Also what do you think of the movie Angels Egg if you've seen it? I think this movie is polarizing because it's not the kind of thing Miyazaki normally does, he's never made anything like this before and it might just not be your thing but to someone who likes these kind of weird cryptic movies I think it's a masterpiece
It's actually one of the best movies of the year. The animation is some of the best Miyazaki has ever directed, in terms of quality and storytelling function. Consider the scene where he first meets his dad's new wife and they step onto that bike carriage: the starling realism of the shifting weight, the heaviness of the suitcase, the awkwardness of their body language and conversation. Contrast that with the scene from right before, the highly impressionistic, devastating loss of his mother, and contrast it again with the time he meets her again in the fantasy world and she says she hates him. That's just one example. Besides that, the story is stuffed with symbolism, metaphor. I think Miyazaki references, both visually and thematically, pretty much each of his past movies. It gives you a lot to think about, which is a very good thing. 10/10 A++ film. Thank you Miyazaki, Takeshi Honda (animation director), and the scores of other masters who delivered career-best work here. It's an astounding success and an absolute masterpiece.
>I think Miyazaki references, both visually and thematically, pretty much each of his past movies.
I think the great uncles world represents studio ghibli at least a little, Miyazaki has 13 movies and the world is held up by 13 building blocks a day away from toppling over. He tries to find a successor but has to make peace with the worlds destruction in the end. He brought an empire into existence through the sheer luck of a comet striking the right place at the right time and has to come to terms with the fact it dies with him despite his best efforts
I just saw it today and the more this movie sinks in the more I love it, I think this may be one of his best
>Can you elaborate on these?
Ok for starters, was his stepmom actually his aunt? Why did the sailor have the same scar as him? Why did his stepmom say she hated him?
>was his stepmom actually his aunt?
Yes. Widowers marrying their wives sister wasn't uncommon in Japan at that time. I wouldn't expect most people to know that but I also think it'd hurt the film if it spoonfed the audience historical and cultural context like that
>Why did the sailor have the same scar as him?
This one I'm not sure on, but I only saw the movie today and haven't much time to sit on it, I'll probably see it again soon. I'd assume there's some reason for that and since it's not relevant to the overall story I don't think it's important for it to be extremely clear. You can have some cryptic symbolism in your movie and still have a coherent story, and I think this movie definitely has both
>Why did his stepmom say she hated him?
you've never been around pregnant chicks, huh?
Going back all the way to Nausicaa I never liked his approach of dealing with heavy themes and issues he present in a non-committal way. His resolutions to stories have a very strong patina of fence-sitting incidental "that's how it is". The "bad guys" are just misguided or snap out of it or join forces or something like that. It's like the entire conflict fizzles out into an all out chaotic situation where then noone is to blame for anything and it's all smoothed out into some neutrality afterwards.
This is kind of interesting when you see it once or twice, but everything he does has this weird "it is what it is" resolution.
It's supposed to be more "humanist", but something about it doesn't feel right. Seems like characters and factions that caused tremendous amount of suffering have their responsibility for it handwaved away or not even addressed. In fact there's almost no comeuppance at all, it's all just allowed to slide.
The end effect, at least for me, is that I no longer care what the "villains" are up to (I use quotes since I guess no Miyazaki "villain" is ever really a bad person according to his worldview). Whatever they're doing is just absolved and everyone hugs each other and life goes on....
>I never liked his approach of dealing with heavy themes and issues he present in a non-committal way >His resolutions to stories have a very strong patina of fence-sitting incidental "that's how it is"
I used to feel this way but I think now I'm fine with a story not offering an answer or solution, it's okay to just explore those ideas especially when you're tackling unsolvable issues while trying to maintain honesty like Miyazaki does. I think Princess Mononoke is probably the best example of that, if you made iron town evil and selfish villains just destroying nature out of greed that pay for their crimes at the end instead of lepers and prostitutes banding behind an anti-hero to make a better life for themselves you get a far less interesting movie but maybe a more satisfying one
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>I used to feel this way but I think now I'm fine with a story not offering an answer or solution, it's okay to just explore those ideas especially when you're tackling unsolvable issues while trying to maintain honesty like Miyazaki does. I think Princess Mononoke is probably the best example of that, if you made iron town evil and selfish villains just destroying nature out of greed that pay for their crimes at the end instead of lepers and prostitutes banding behind an anti-hero to make a better life for themselves you get a far less interesting movie but maybe a more satisfying one
Well the issue is that he always does that, so it ceases to become interesting. You know from the getgo that they'll all hug and shake hands in the end and that some sort of incidental calamity will happen and be fixed.
I guess the point is in the animation and the lushness and life-affirming themes, but even that becomes old hat when you see it over and over again with the same beats.
I just wish he would throw a curveball and hit us with something actually new.
At this point you might as well use an AI to generate a Miyazaki plot.
>Why did his stepmom say she hated him?
He's a kid who's rejecting her and making her feel like a failure. He is not trying to adapt to his new life, he's cold, he's in trouble at school. It's in that very scene that he finally calls her "mother" and immediately she softens in return. I think this part of the plot is deeply relevant to the film's themes as a whole. I've seen some posts on here from people frustrated that Mahito doesn't acknowledge in a stronger way his mom being there in the fantasy world. But the fact that he doesn't is deeply thematic (connected to the old man's questions to him) and a beautiful sentiment in relation to his aunt.
>significant flaws in its story >packed too much in without sufficient explanation or time given to explore his ideas
Can you elaborate on these? Also what do you think of the movie Angels Egg if you've seen it? I think this movie is polarizing because it's not the kind of thing Miyazaki normally does, he's never made anything like this before and it might just not be your thing but to someone who likes these kind of weird cryptic movies I think it's a masterpiece
[...] >I think Miyazaki references, both visually and thematically, pretty much each of his past movies.
I think the great uncles world represents studio ghibli at least a little, Miyazaki has 13 movies and the world is held up by 13 building blocks a day away from toppling over. He tries to find a successor but has to make peace with the worlds destruction in the end. He brought an empire into existence through the sheer luck of a comet striking the right place at the right time and has to come to terms with the fact it dies with him despite his best efforts
I just saw it today and the more this movie sinks in the more I love it, I think this may be one of his best
>I think the great uncles world represents studio ghibli at least a little, Miyazaki has 13 movies and the world is held up by 13 building blocks a day away from toppling over.
Yes I think that's right, but like other parts of this movie, I think it represents other things too. I think some of the dialogue from the old man, I can't recall specifically, was about the delicacy of it, which I think speaks to Miyazaki's (and any artist's) anxiety in portraying himself, the world, figures like Jiro Horikoshi, and what that art does to those who view it (and those who make it).
>Ok for starters, was his stepmom actually his aunt?
Yes Natsuko is his blood related aunt. >Why did the sailor have the same scar as him?
She got hit by a fish. It's just a way for them to relate. Movies are not puzzle boxes meant for YouTube breakdown videos, stop watching them that way. >Why did his stepmom say she hated him?
The reason she leaves in the first place is because she feels inadequate, like a failure that can't fill her sister's shoes. That's why she tries to push Mahito away, that's how real people act, not robotic autists on the internet. Idk why this is so difficult for people to understand when literally the entire movie is about Mahito and Natsuko trying to figure out how to live on after hisako's death. They're broken people, they're afraid of connecting, but it's when Mahito starts calling her mother and reaching for her that they both realize they want to try to live again as a family.
Do you people not have any human contact in your lives whatsoever?
>Art is not meant to be incomprehensible or only accessible for those who reach a certain level of pseud.
god you're moronic >but it has significant flaws in its story which cannot be fully explained away by Miyazaki being "artsy".
inb4 'plotholes'
please just have a nice day >The man packed too much in without sufficient explanation or time given to explore his ideas,
YOU MUST HAVE A 10 MINUTE LONG HAMFISTED SPIEL EXPLAINING THIS AND THAT. YOU MUST NOT HAVE EXPERIMENTAL STORYTELLING. YOU MUST MAKE THINGS MAKE SENSE FOR PLEBEIAN AUDIENCES.
I think it's way better than spirited away, probably this is his best deep movie for sure but having lotsa of symbolism doesn't make the movie automatically deep
Best movie of the year and the last good anime till the end of time
I never expected Miyazaki of all people who's movies have always been really accessible to make this much of a pleb filter. Not as strong a finish to his career as The Wind Rises was supposed to be though
It's literally spirited away with the backdrop of The Wind Rises. The main character struggles with his mother's death and by the time you realize who Himi is, he's completely over it. The literal bird shit showing up multiple times was disgusting. For how well done the art is the story is so fricking lackluster I was close to just leaving the theatre. It takes like 40 minutes to actually get into the fricking plot.
Just saw it tonight, I agree if the animation wasn’t amazing it wouldn’t be possible to sit through. Overall it was not worth the Black fatigue of going to a theater in person, but it is worth a watch in the comfort of your home.
Unfortunately I have to agree. Has no idea what it wants to be about, takes way too long to get going and the messaging and tone are all over the place, then wraps up way too quickly and neatly. Only in the last 30 minutes or so did it start to feel like male Spirited Away, which is to say like that film but edgier, more violent, less romance and emotion, and with a male protagonist of course. Which made me realize the whole film could have been like that, and just what a waste of potential the majority of it was.
The story was bad, but the animation carries everything else hard. Not the final masterpiece that everyone was hoping for, but it's still an okay movie. Cagliostro remains his best.
did the kid's mom actually open the door to her own death my fire at the end? also why was the aunt such a b***h when she woke up in the alternate world?
>did the kid's mom actually open the door to her own death my fire at the end?
No, they went back to their own times so she would've gone back to when she was a kid then lived her life up until that point
>it doesn't have shit storytelling, it's ABSTRACT!
I didn't say abstract = good, I even shit on Beau is Afraid in that post, I was just pointed out how it's different to spirited away. No one has said why the storytelling is shit, they've just said that it's shit and slow, so I haven't made any argument against that
Why do you think it's shit?
It was about his legacy. When the great uncle tried to let the boy stack his blocks the boy said, “No I have malice in me”. That was Miyazaki contemplating leaving his Ghibli legacy to his son. Then the big, bright loud bird with a bunch of followers (who end up leaving bird droppings everywhere) was a metaphor for Mickey Mouse. Disney isn’t going to carry the torch. Thats why the sparrow king rushed to stack the blocks and ruined it.
The pacing is slow bc Miyazaki is 80+. He lived his whole life, thought about what he had achieved- realized that living his life including going through the pain of losing his mother, made him who he was and allowed him to build his legacy- which he can’t leave to his son or pass to something like Disney.
It may be a hard film to understand bc many of us aren’t thinking about life that way.
It's actually one of the best movies of the year. The animation is some of the best Miyazaki has ever directed, in terms of quality and storytelling function. Consider the scene where he first meets his dad's new wife and they step onto that bike carriage: the starling realism of the shifting weight, the heaviness of the suitcase, the awkwardness of their body language and conversation. Contrast that with the scene from right before, the highly impressionistic, devastating loss of his mother, and contrast it again with the time he meets her again in the fantasy world and she says she hates him. That's just one example. Besides that, the story is stuffed with symbolism, metaphor. I think Miyazaki references, both visually and thematically, pretty much each of his past movies. It gives you a lot to think about, which is a very good thing. 10/10 A++ film. Thank you Miyazaki, Takeshi Honda (animation director), and the scores of other masters who delivered career-best work here. It's an astounding success and an absolute masterpiece.
Going back all the way to Nausicaa I never liked his approach of dealing with heavy themes and issues he present in a non-committal way. His resolutions to stories have a very strong patina of fence-sitting incidental "that's how it is". The "bad guys" are just misguided or snap out of it or join forces or something like that. It's like the entire conflict fizzles out into an all out chaotic situation where then noone is to blame for anything and it's all smoothed out into some neutrality afterwards.
This is kind of interesting when you see it once or twice, but everything he does has this weird "it is what it is" resolution.
It's supposed to be more "humanist", but something about it doesn't feel right. Seems like characters and factions that caused tremendous amount of suffering have their responsibility for it handwaved away or not even addressed. In fact there's almost no comeuppance at all, it's all just allowed to slide.
The end effect, at least for me, is that I no longer care what the "villains" are up to (I use quotes since I guess no Miyazaki "villain" is ever really a bad person according to his worldview). Whatever they're doing is just absolved and everyone hugs each other and life goes on....
I think the film really exposes that most Miyahaki fans are just weeb pedos who like quirky little girl and eye candy drawing and can't extrapolate their understanding at all
I don't know if it's a movie kids would like but you might as well if you want to see it. Even if it's a movie kids would find boring it's probably a movie that'll stick with them in a positive way
Going to see it later today. I'm an unashamed weeb but hear the dub is good and Robert Pattinson does a great job as the heron despite it being his first voice role so I opted for that instead.
Black person go see the sub trust me the heron is a minor role, the English distributors came up with "The boy and the heron" name because it sounds like disneyslop. The real name is "How do you live?"
Ghiblishit is the biggest example of mother goose syndrome in animation history
>mother goose syndrome
what's that?
I don't, the movies where nothing happens like Totoro and Kiki bore me to death. I want more edgy ones like Mononoke.
The tendency people have to overrate the first "artsy" anime films they see and tout them as the best despite their understanding being completely surface level
"Mother Goose Syndrome" is, in part, a result of having so much of your need for physical nurturing met in cuddling your baby; your need for hugs may have decreased temporarily.
I thought it was ok out of the theater. But then later I compared it to Spirited Away and realized it was way way worse.
Massively filtered, this movie is nothing like Spirited Away outside of "character goes into another world" and you described why. This isn't a fast paced adventure movie it's a weird and reflective abstract art film. The most comparable movie from this year would be Beau is Afraid because they're both super self indulgent surreal and slow semi-autobiographical odysseys except this ones way better and actually good because it was made by a based old jap lump of coal and not a neurotic israelite. I think this movie will be praised very highly in time but it's too strange and slow for your average 2023 movie goer. The story in this movie is minimal and it's more about quietly spending time with the characters but the granduncles world is packed with so much more meaning than anything in spirited away (I still think Spirited Away is a better movie though). I need to re-watch it soon, maybe when I look closer it'll turn out I'm wrong and it's just a bunch of nonsense I was reading into too closely
>it doesn't have shit storytelling, it's ABSTRACT!
It’s definitely self reflective. He made the movie he wanted to make.
>it's a weird and reflective abstract art film.
Convolutedness does not make a film an "art film". Art is not meant to be incomprehensible or only accessible for those who reach a certain level of pseud. The movie is beautiful, true, but it has significant flaws in its story which cannot be fully explained away by Miyazaki being "artsy". The man packed too much in without sufficient explanation or time given to explore his ideas, and it does bring down the movie somewhat.
>significant flaws in its story
>packed too much in without sufficient explanation or time given to explore his ideas
Can you elaborate on these? Also what do you think of the movie Angels Egg if you've seen it? I think this movie is polarizing because it's not the kind of thing Miyazaki normally does, he's never made anything like this before and it might just not be your thing but to someone who likes these kind of weird cryptic movies I think it's a masterpiece
>I think Miyazaki references, both visually and thematically, pretty much each of his past movies.
I think the great uncles world represents studio ghibli at least a little, Miyazaki has 13 movies and the world is held up by 13 building blocks a day away from toppling over. He tries to find a successor but has to make peace with the worlds destruction in the end. He brought an empire into existence through the sheer luck of a comet striking the right place at the right time and has to come to terms with the fact it dies with him despite his best efforts
I just saw it today and the more this movie sinks in the more I love it, I think this may be one of his best
>Can you elaborate on these?
Ok for starters, was his stepmom actually his aunt? Why did the sailor have the same scar as him? Why did his stepmom say she hated him?
>was his stepmom actually his aunt?
Yes. Widowers marrying their wives sister wasn't uncommon in Japan at that time. I wouldn't expect most people to know that but I also think it'd hurt the film if it spoonfed the audience historical and cultural context like that
>Why did the sailor have the same scar as him?
This one I'm not sure on, but I only saw the movie today and haven't much time to sit on it, I'll probably see it again soon. I'd assume there's some reason for that and since it's not relevant to the overall story I don't think it's important for it to be extremely clear. You can have some cryptic symbolism in your movie and still have a coherent story, and I think this movie definitely has both
>Why did his stepmom say she hated him?
>I never liked his approach of dealing with heavy themes and issues he present in a non-committal way
>His resolutions to stories have a very strong patina of fence-sitting incidental "that's how it is"
I used to feel this way but I think now I'm fine with a story not offering an answer or solution, it's okay to just explore those ideas especially when you're tackling unsolvable issues while trying to maintain honesty like Miyazaki does. I think Princess Mononoke is probably the best example of that, if you made iron town evil and selfish villains just destroying nature out of greed that pay for their crimes at the end instead of lepers and prostitutes banding behind an anti-hero to make a better life for themselves you get a far less interesting movie but maybe a more satisfying one
>I used to feel this way but I think now I'm fine with a story not offering an answer or solution, it's okay to just explore those ideas especially when you're tackling unsolvable issues while trying to maintain honesty like Miyazaki does. I think Princess Mononoke is probably the best example of that, if you made iron town evil and selfish villains just destroying nature out of greed that pay for their crimes at the end instead of lepers and prostitutes banding behind an anti-hero to make a better life for themselves you get a far less interesting movie but maybe a more satisfying one
Well the issue is that he always does that, so it ceases to become interesting. You know from the getgo that they'll all hug and shake hands in the end and that some sort of incidental calamity will happen and be fixed.
I guess the point is in the animation and the lushness and life-affirming themes, but even that becomes old hat when you see it over and over again with the same beats.
I just wish he would throw a curveball and hit us with something actually new.
At this point you might as well use an AI to generate a Miyazaki plot.
>Why did his stepmom say she hated him?
He's a kid who's rejecting her and making her feel like a failure. He is not trying to adapt to his new life, he's cold, he's in trouble at school. It's in that very scene that he finally calls her "mother" and immediately she softens in return. I think this part of the plot is deeply relevant to the film's themes as a whole. I've seen some posts on here from people frustrated that Mahito doesn't acknowledge in a stronger way his mom being there in the fantasy world. But the fact that he doesn't is deeply thematic (connected to the old man's questions to him) and a beautiful sentiment in relation to his aunt.
>I think the great uncles world represents studio ghibli at least a little, Miyazaki has 13 movies and the world is held up by 13 building blocks a day away from toppling over.
Yes I think that's right, but like other parts of this movie, I think it represents other things too. I think some of the dialogue from the old man, I can't recall specifically, was about the delicacy of it, which I think speaks to Miyazaki's (and any artist's) anxiety in portraying himself, the world, figures like Jiro Horikoshi, and what that art does to those who view it (and those who make it).
>Ok for starters, was his stepmom actually his aunt?
Yes Natsuko is his blood related aunt.
>Why did the sailor have the same scar as him?
She got hit by a fish. It's just a way for them to relate. Movies are not puzzle boxes meant for YouTube breakdown videos, stop watching them that way.
>Why did his stepmom say she hated him?
The reason she leaves in the first place is because she feels inadequate, like a failure that can't fill her sister's shoes. That's why she tries to push Mahito away, that's how real people act, not robotic autists on the internet. Idk why this is so difficult for people to understand when literally the entire movie is about Mahito and Natsuko trying to figure out how to live on after hisako's death. They're broken people, they're afraid of connecting, but it's when Mahito starts calling her mother and reaching for her that they both realize they want to try to live again as a family.
Do you people not have any human contact in your lives whatsoever?
>Art is not meant to be incomprehensible or only accessible for those who reach a certain level of pseud.
god you're moronic
>but it has significant flaws in its story which cannot be fully explained away by Miyazaki being "artsy".
inb4 'plotholes'
please just have a nice day
>The man packed too much in without sufficient explanation or time given to explore his ideas,
YOU MUST HAVE A 10 MINUTE LONG HAMFISTED SPIEL EXPLAINING THIS AND THAT. YOU MUST NOT HAVE EXPERIMENTAL STORYTELLING. YOU MUST MAKE THINGS MAKE SENSE FOR PLEBEIAN AUDIENCES.
have a nice day maulergay
I think it's way better than spirited away, probably this is his best deep movie for sure but having lotsa of symbolism doesn't make the movie automatically deep
Does Hayao not realize most of us watch his movies for his cute and funny girls and not boy protags?
Best movie of the year and the last good anime till the end of time
I never expected Miyazaki of all people who's movies have always been really accessible to make this much of a pleb filter. Not as strong a finish to his career as The Wind Rises was supposed to be though
>The Wind Rises
wind rises sucked ass like crazy
I'm pro Goro.
I liked it.
Merry Christmas, anon.
it was ok but way worse than his previous works
It's literally spirited away with the backdrop of The Wind Rises. The main character struggles with his mother's death and by the time you realize who Himi is, he's completely over it. The literal bird shit showing up multiple times was disgusting. For how well done the art is the story is so fricking lackluster I was close to just leaving the theatre. It takes like 40 minutes to actually get into the fricking plot.
Just saw it tonight, I agree if the animation wasn’t amazing it wouldn’t be possible to sit through. Overall it was not worth the Black fatigue of going to a theater in person, but it is worth a watch in the comfort of your home.
Eventually it feeding seeded
you got filtered
Unfortunately I have to agree. Has no idea what it wants to be about, takes way too long to get going and the messaging and tone are all over the place, then wraps up way too quickly and neatly. Only in the last 30 minutes or so did it start to feel like male Spirited Away, which is to say like that film but edgier, more violent, less romance and emotion, and with a male protagonist of course. Which made me realize the whole film could have been like that, and just what a waste of potential the majority of it was.
The story was bad, but the animation carries everything else hard. Not the final masterpiece that everyone was hoping for, but it's still an okay movie. Cagliostro remains his best.
It was an allegory for Miyazaki and his son's relationship.
ghibli is a better illustrator than a director. his films peaked at castle in the sky
did the kid's mom actually open the door to her own death my fire at the end? also why was the aunt such a b***h when she woke up in the alternate world?
you've never been around pregnant chicks, huh?
>did the kid's mom actually open the door to her own death my fire at the end?
No, they went back to their own times so she would've gone back to when she was a kid then lived her life up until that point
I didn't say abstract = good, I even shit on Beau is Afraid in that post, I was just pointed out how it's different to spirited away. No one has said why the storytelling is shit, they've just said that it's shit and slow, so I haven't made any argument against that
Why do you think it's shit?
It was about his legacy. When the great uncle tried to let the boy stack his blocks the boy said, “No I have malice in me”. That was Miyazaki contemplating leaving his Ghibli legacy to his son. Then the big, bright loud bird with a bunch of followers (who end up leaving bird droppings everywhere) was a metaphor for Mickey Mouse. Disney isn’t going to carry the torch. Thats why the sparrow king rushed to stack the blocks and ruined it.
The pacing is slow bc Miyazaki is 80+. He lived his whole life, thought about what he had achieved- realized that living his life including going through the pain of losing his mother, made him who he was and allowed him to build his legacy- which he can’t leave to his son or pass to something like Disney.
It may be a hard film to understand bc many of us aren’t thinking about life that way.
Princess Monoke is the worst Disney movie I have ever seen.
Tranime
Yeah, nobody really has any motivations the plot just kind of happens. The parakeets were fun though.
When the king first appeared one of the birds had a sign that said "DUCH" but at first I thought it said "OUCH" and it nearly cracked me up
It's actually one of the best movies of the year. The animation is some of the best Miyazaki has ever directed, in terms of quality and storytelling function. Consider the scene where he first meets his dad's new wife and they step onto that bike carriage: the starling realism of the shifting weight, the heaviness of the suitcase, the awkwardness of their body language and conversation. Contrast that with the scene from right before, the highly impressionistic, devastating loss of his mother, and contrast it again with the time he meets her again in the fantasy world and she says she hates him. That's just one example. Besides that, the story is stuffed with symbolism, metaphor. I think Miyazaki references, both visually and thematically, pretty much each of his past movies. It gives you a lot to think about, which is a very good thing. 10/10 A++ film. Thank you Miyazaki, Takeshi Honda (animation director), and the scores of other masters who delivered career-best work here. It's an astounding success and an absolute masterpiece.
Going back all the way to Nausicaa I never liked his approach of dealing with heavy themes and issues he present in a non-committal way. His resolutions to stories have a very strong patina of fence-sitting incidental "that's how it is". The "bad guys" are just misguided or snap out of it or join forces or something like that. It's like the entire conflict fizzles out into an all out chaotic situation where then noone is to blame for anything and it's all smoothed out into some neutrality afterwards.
This is kind of interesting when you see it once or twice, but everything he does has this weird "it is what it is" resolution.
It's supposed to be more "humanist", but something about it doesn't feel right. Seems like characters and factions that caused tremendous amount of suffering have their responsibility for it handwaved away or not even addressed. In fact there's almost no comeuppance at all, it's all just allowed to slide.
The end effect, at least for me, is that I no longer care what the "villains" are up to (I use quotes since I guess no Miyazaki "villain" is ever really a bad person according to his worldview). Whatever they're doing is just absolved and everyone hugs each other and life goes on....
You deserve to be a miserable loser farming (you)s to make up for your real life lack of human contact, OP. you deserve that.
I ended up liking it
A bit contrived but overall touchy
Literally all the replies above are moronic
explain ur view rather than giving opinions dumbass
Does he need to? You gonna make him?
this movie sucks and I don't care about children who cry about japanese toons being cool say.
I think the film really exposes that most Miyahaki fans are just weeb pedos who like quirky little girl and eye candy drawing and can't extrapolate their understanding at all
>Miyahaki
my rural kinoplex is only doing a couple of screenings of the dubbed version this weekend
should I go with my niece?
I don't know if it's a movie kids would like but you might as well if you want to see it. Even if it's a movie kids would find boring it's probably a movie that'll stick with them in a positive way
Going to see it later today. I'm an unashamed weeb but hear the dub is good and Robert Pattinson does a great job as the heron despite it being his first voice role so I opted for that instead.
Black person go see the sub trust me the heron is a minor role, the English distributors came up with "The boy and the heron" name because it sounds like disneyslop. The real name is "How do you live?"
Filtered.
It was kino