It is perfectly fine. 6/10 at the very least. Critics are complete plebs. Did the homosexual, disfigured villain or the tentacle coomer villain offend them?
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unfortunately zero character development seems very rushed
It's the short version. There's a longer one with scenes from the first trailer, I assume. No clue when the release is but it's been announced some time ago. More character backstories and such. I was honestly pleasantly surprised how decent this turned out to be.
moronic buzzwords for a moronic NPC midwit.
>More character backstories
we dont want to see their back stories
we just want to see well written characters
their origin means nothing
we want to see them progress FORWARD, not understand why they behave the way they do
cardboards can't progress forward
Kek. Are you a liberal or something?
>genes don't matter
>upbringing doesn't matter
>former deeds don't matter
Goofy ass.
He's just not autistic like you
>muh character development
>hurr durr who needs something to develop from
Imbecile.
Yeah, moron. The something that the character develops from is the character that we saw in the beginning of the movie. No wonder character writing is shit today, because they are all written by dimwits who think like you do.
a characters origin story does not matter within a two hour movie
i want to see a character live his life scene by scene within a two hour window
what happens within those two hours MUST be engaging or you lose the audience
NO ONE wants to see a 10 minute sequence of the mc's childhood that explains why he has a grunge towards a particular fraction of people
I would generally agree on flashbacks except that Snyder does those in a very visual manner, which doesn't throw you out of the movie. And you won't get around plenty of backstory for something with epic ambitions like this. No way.
yeah, but a simple line such as:
i use to be apart of their empire. i thought i was doing right until i was forced to watch children die for no reason. my love, my husband... was killed in trying to protect those kids... now i want revenge. thats what i live for. they have forced me to kill them.
That's not the story here though. She's not just any disgruntled soldier. She's either directly or indirectly responsible for the promised princess dying.
yeah, i havent seen the movie and have no plans to
but the example i gave shaves off 10 minutes that can be used more effectively
>admits he hasn't even seen it
Hahahahahahahaha. Dude, you're a total fraud. Just shut your prostitute mouth.
some people just have a visceral reaction to masculinity these days
>I haven't seen the movie but im going to pretend like I know what is wrong with
damn, you're moronic
i dont have to watch a movie to know that its crap
ie the marvels, the flash, blue beetle etc
Shut up, culturelet midwit.
>this movie is terrible, one of the worst pieces of cinema to ever disgrace the small screen. there are no redeemable qualities to this film whatsoever.
>and again as ive said before, ive never watched the movie... but here's what i would change to make it better-
grudge*
sorry
>JUST WAIT FOR THE SNYDERCUT BRO I SWEAR IT'LL BETTER
yawn...
the snydercut for justice league WAS much better thoughever
It was still a terrible movie. The only people that like Snyder are Pajeets and they're objectively disgusting.
what is this snyder indian meme anyway
were the only fans of Watchmen pajeets?
No. It's a meme like 3 people on here keep spamming trying to make it stick. I think they're all millennials and they are definitely not very bright.
Mostly yes. Almost all the support for the snydercut and to restore the snyder verse came from India. Zach has specifically thanked his Indian fans multiple times and did a large press tour there because of it.
Proven lie. The people in the zoom calls with Sneeder when that whole things was going on were from all over. White chads, gender confused fat people, asians, etc. Surprisingly mixed.
*thing
See
>More footage will magically change the teenage amateur level writing
You are a pajeet aren't you?
No but I bet a pajeet fricked your mom or something.
would she even notice if one did?
>dude trust me there's a good version just wait
Frick off. If you need 4 hours to tell every story properly, learn to fricking edit.
>zero character development
>over 2 hrs long
It takes effort to frick up that bad
Snyder really needs a tard wrangler with him at all times. A fricking movie this long and he can't even introduce the fricking cast properly.
Manchild slop with fan fic level writing
one thing's for sure, rebel moon is part of the culture war zeitgeist. sad jackasses like keep wasting their time trying to astro turf negativity around it. based snyder chads are having to once again defend his merits.
my honest review is that it seems like they were overzealous with the first movie, trying to cram a whole franchise worth of lore into the exposition of the first movie and it doesn't work.
snyder and netflix have a great opportunity here and a compelling cinematic atmosphere, they just need to slow down and tell small stories that start to expand
It's the Snyder version of 40k, anon, except less compelling. As in, not at all.
Snyder's idea for the movie is not bad at all. He just gets up his own ass and can't properly structure the story within the allotted time. We get two long-winded flashbacks about Kora that could have been 1/5 as long and still get the message across. Whereas the very unsurprising twist gets one tiny scene to foreshadow it and no one else gets any fricking development. Snyder needs to make a fricking series if he sucks this much at time management.
It's almost like he's a dogshit filmmaker.
Yeah, that's the short of it.
This. The reason it feels like what a 11-year old would scribble down after seeing Star Wars for the first time is because that's exactly what it is
I haven't seen the movie yet, but how does it compare to Avatar? Because I often hear James talking about how that's an idea which was spawned from his childhood imagination and I feel like you can see that present there too. There's a juvenile spirit to Avatar, but it's channeled pretty well.
It has not got shit on Avatar in terms of filmmaking.
Acting was awful, cinematography and CGI was straight out of mid-2000's.
6/10 sci-fi would be something like The Creator.
Rebel Moon is just bad, 2/10 at best. As much as it pains me the critics are absolutely right about this one. It obviously can be enjoyable depending on your expectations, but by all objective means this is a bad movie.
All lies. Acting was fine. Only one CG shot was bad (them heading to their ship leaving the planet with the eagle creature) and cinematography was decent as well, which I didn't expect after Army of the Dead. Stop lying.
Anon what does shilling for an obviously failed project from a director who doesn't even know you exist do for you?
What does lying do for you (other than corrode your soul)?
How am I lying?
There are things that I absolutely adored about this movie, production design was brilliant and I liked most of the aliens and robots. I would consider it something close to Chronicles of Riddick. It's bad and incompetently made, but at least it's creative and can be inspiring.
It's not incompetently made at all though. I'd say it's closer to Pitch Black in quality or at least Riddick (2013).
Bloody benchod i will revenge on your family
>cinematography was decent as well
Meanwhile, that same scene from Dune
And The Force Awakens
Well those movies had cinematographers so they knew how to work the camera lenses.
The entire griffin part looked less convincing than Harry riding the hippogriff in Prisoner of Azkaban, a twenty year old movie.
dude the main character girl when she is doing her "impassioned" resistance speech is godawful cringe and she's actually doing the...
>look mom I'm acting
thing and being yet another wretched girlboss clone
Straight to streaming was the only possible fate for this ridiculous Hack Snyder fare.
This adamantly defense of what they themselves perceived as "barely passable popcorn flick" reminds me of The Marvels.
>This adamantly defense of what they themselves perceived as "barely passable popcorn flick" reminds me of The Marvels.
It's becoming quite a worrisome trend these days. Instead of being honest & straight up admitting that the film was pure unwatchable trash, people, all of a sudden, start coming up with all sorts of excuses in order to avoid the truth & uttering what's really on their minds. Truly a disturbing social phenomenon, perhaps all of those pseudo-intellectuals/YouTube revisionist are to blame for a rapid spread of such a brain damaging disease.
Snydercrap as usual. If you can't tell a good story in 2 hours then you have no business making movies
It's not fine and it's not a 6/10. It's a 3/10 at best. Complete garbage.
i make long movie with slowmo and a lot of creatures , pls gibe moni ?
It felt like they had pitched an andor style 6-8 episode season but were forced to cram it into a movie instead.
As usual Snyders writing and slow motion is so exaggerated and sappy its practically diabetic, full of ham fisted tropes and predictable plots. Also the choreography was sloppy and cumbersome
I still enjoyed the hell out of it though.
The world building was fun, the villains equal parts authoritarian conquerors and esoteric techno mystics, this felt more like a story out of the 40k universe "diaries of a commissar" than it did a star wars ripoff. Although each of the characters on the main cast could have used a full episode to introduce, they were still quite fun and what little we get of their backstory could be good if it's explored in the future and not just dropped as is.
The costuming was mostly good, although the farmers were a fairly boring European ripoff, the blood axe rebels costumes were missing something, and the main antagonists costume was a bit misleading, looking like an SS uniform when the empire itself was modeled more off the Roman empire (complete with very on the nose colloseum).
I do also feel snyder is going a bit overboard with the lense flare and light bloom in this movie
Overall 7/10. Should have been a limited series instead of a movie. Looking forward to pt 2
It's surreal to me to see so many anons defend such a mediocre director, it reminds me of the whole "you need a high IQ to understand Rick and Morty meme". His only decent movies are based on other people's properties.
Name good directors.
Alejandro Jodorowsky, Roman Polanski, Sergio Leone, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchwiener, Takashi Miike, Dario Argento, Lucio Fulci, George Romero, Sam Peckinpah, John Ford, Akira Kurosawa among countless others.
Hello, midwit.
Good morning, sirs.
how is this hard to get? we live in current day where taki watati is "le current day director". snyder is literally all anyone has left in terms of just watching a halfway decent movie that delivers.
it's really telling how all people can do is gaslight about snyder being such a low quality director when everyone here has seen just how bad every single other hollywood director is. so yes, we are clinging desperately to snyder and his barely passible netflix slop
>snyder is literally all anyone has left in terms of just watching a halfway decent movie that delivers.
60 rupees good sar
>taki watati is "le current day director". snyder is literally all anyone has left in terms of just watching a halfway decent movie that delivers.
Maybe you should watch more movies than 200 million dollar blockbusters anon.
>you should watch more bad movies
what? kek
So you don't watch anything except giant CG laden blockbusters, then you complain that they're all bad?
you argue like a toddler spouting baby logic. frick off not worth my time
You took an hour and forty minutes to come back with that? I finished your terrible movie, it was terrible. Watch more films than blockbusters before you try to cling to Zack Snyder as the last bastion of artistic grace.
This reads like a post on r/movies
Please feel free to go back there.
>The world building was fun
What's world building, anon?
Space nazis and seven samurai
sounds cliche
It's super cliche movie, but it doesn't matter since It's pretty fun. Kinda just trash popcorn movie that you should not take seriously
>Snyder
>cliche
*gasp* how shocking
Anyways
name 5 movies with space nazis and seven samurai
It was ok. Very derivative from Star Wars and 40k, but I've seen worse from Marvel getting 8 and 10.
The fact that their ships are giant dicks and the wormholes are pussies was pretty funny, they are literally raping the universe on their path of conquest
Snyderjeets killed this board.
Millennials with a pajeet fetish did.
nah it was shit
>nah it was the shit
Even the brainwashed Snydergays moaning about the mean old critics can't bring themselves to give it better than a 6...
In reality there's no way this is even close to a 6. That would make it the best movie of the year by a wide margin.
oh another "every new movie is bad" contrarian how original
Speaking of overreactions. The Killer was a 7.
I'm white and I mog you. I'd cosign a couple of the ones posted but starting off with Jodorapesky and Poolanski is a bit of a figurative death sentence.
I don't expect the average Cinemaphile poster to get cinema, so I understand your confusion Black person. Drown yourself in the Ganges, homosexual.
Whatever you say, 105 IQ. In addition to being an IQlet, are you a manlet as well?
I'm 3'7 as a matter of fact, how did you know?
>deflection
I take that as a yes.
>That would make it the best american movie of the year by a wide margin.
name 5 good non-American 2023 movies
>Godzilla Minus One
>Sakra
>The Boy and the Heron
>El Conde
>The Murderer
>decent godzilla movie
>5.7/10
>anime children's movie
>6.5/10
>6.1/10
>that rating system
Kek. Casting away the nobility and elevating bottom feeders like you was truly a beautiful thing.
3/10 from critics is definitely an overreaction
>6/10 is a good movie
you have no standards, I paid $0 and gave this film two hours of my time and was not happy about it.
>conspicuously diverse cast
>le strong wahman of color protagonist
>White peepo bad
>produced by goyflix
>directed by hack Snyder
It was fricking terrible and only the biggest and most moronic homosexuals would dare say otherwise
It was Campbell with tame 2023 casting and Snyder visuals. You're dumb.
>tame 2023 casting
check out the cope on this guy
No, actually check out the cast.
wow yeah, insane
not to mention the entirely white nordic village at the start
He just want to be outraged at everything like his favorite click sit YouTubers
stop samegayging cringeBlack person
>Snyder visuals
Is this supposed to be a good thing? He hasn't made a movie with good visuals in 20 years.
Can you give actual reasons instead of stupid greentexts? It's not hard, the film is bad, and for real reasons not this meaningless culture war shit.
The move script has been written by that AI the screenwriters were protesting against, right? Unbelievable amount of stupid and cliched packed so densely that almost seemed impossible before they actually released the film. All alphabet people representation, I wonder if it a woman female characters, all races, preferences, deviations. Peak Netflix cancer.
You are young.
This is classic agenda free popcorn trash.
Come on, the only comparable thing is that Sex Education series. Never seen something so bad. Impossible level of crap-content compressed into a small crap-cube. Can you name any comparable productions? Maybe I have been lucky to navigate around such crap.
>the only comparable thing is that Sex Education series
How?
Forced over-the-top race-gender-muh-strong-women representation
>Forced
Not really. Not a marrysue and other none females are shown very capable and not belittled. You realize a strong female character isn't something to be scared of right?
Don't you dare compare epic Sarah char with that bs. The main char is a crypto-Mary Sue with plot armour. Seen her battle scenes which made her get promoted? Or her origin story. Her plowing the friggin field with her body type(? looks too man-like though; I couldn't shake the impression her face doesn't look female) . Her farmer fixer sidekick who organized village matters is literally a wimp.
OP is a tasteless moron.
Just marathoned the first 15 minutes of this movie
>bad guys show up, character asks what they could want
>girl says everything
>Gunnar asks what the bad guy wants after killing the chieftain
>says everything
I stood up, applauded, and then turned off my TV. I am not worthy of witnessing such a masterpiece of cinema.
>Why wasn't I subverted???!!
>Why didn't he say nothin???!!!!!
Looks like a channel awesome poster. What trash.
>Casting away the nobility and elevating bottom feeders like you was truly a beautiful thing.
I like Snyder, but I don't know. The dude is far removed from 300, and Watchmen. This was middling.
Peaked with BvS. I'd say Rebel Moon is his best non-comic book movie.
>Peaked with BvS
ugh i hate your kind
fa/tv/irginbros, redpill me on this
should i watch this movie or play fallout new vegas for another 5 hours?
Watch the movie in the background while you play. It's just a non pozzed action film. It's not ground breaking but the people shitting on it just want to be angry about something.
>Watch the movie in the background while you play.
least-ADHD-riddled zoomer
How would I know? If you like NV you might like this but maybe not. I don't really know how much of a plebshit you are.
This movie is shitshow. I only watched it bc I was also cleaning my place at the same time. Idiot-behaviour galore, lotta moron dialogue, plot's a derivative of a derivative of a derivative. But it made me come here to say how shit it is, so maybe it was worth it?
Shut the frick up, consoomer illiterate.
Wrong post ref, duuude
No.
>hedonist blob discovers it's "pansexual"
Shocking.
To be fair, the fatties probably means she gets sexually aroused by cooking pans.
>But it made me come here to say how shit it is
This is why you will get nothing but subversive homosexual Black person trash
>subersive homosexual Black person trash
name 5
Uh excuse me dickheads, but it's common knowledge that Zack Snyder peaked with Dawn of the Dead in 2004. He was nice enough to give us 300 as a bonus but otherwise his ewwwwwvre is insipid dogshit.
>gunner on giant ship had a lever on his control board that shuts the entire ship off for some reason
i just fired this piece of shit up. please tell me the whole thing doesn't look like this? also
>shitty audio
fricking netflix rips
nice video game cutscene
>corey stoll
>sofia butella
>that shitty guy from game of thrones
the cast portends cringe
>>that shitty guy from game of thrones
who?
>stock medieval pub music
aw jeez
Someone should just edit in the Cantina music from Star Wars
The charcaters barely interact with each other. That shit was horrible. Its like they just took 8 episodes of a tv show and made a summary cut of each episode and then stiched together. And no, its not a question of Snyder cut solving it because in almost one hour and a half of movie the characters barely interacted with each other. They didn't even say shit to the general when they got imprisoned
And?
I assume he means Daario Naharis. Not sure which one though.
>And?
Its shit. This is the one Snyder work I can't defend in any way. 3/10 if you are a normal human being, 5/10 if you are into Boutella's sweaty pit
i'm not a fan of this stilted old world-y dialogue and line delivery with these amish guys. i'm on the scene where admiral frickface is interrogating them and it reminds me how much better the analogous scene is in inglourious basterds.
I won't even check it out because I'm sick of movies about rebellions.
27 minutes into a 135 minute movie and so far i don't give a shit about anyone or anything that's happening
I have some bad news for you Anon
That's not going to change. The movie doesn't have much of a coherent plot and the none of the characters that get introduced after that point have much dialogue/screen time or development.
holy kek i just realized the main hero and villain are both daario naharises lmao
I thought it was good. A little rushed in spots with character development but overall I'm looking forward to part two.
no it wasn't fine, it was disjointed and moronic nonsense
>random dnd monsters
>40 different locations
>no explanation of any of the setting or tech, besides the exposition in the first minute
>all the bad guys are completely moronic and overtly evil but also incompetent
>no character development, just exposition
>no explanation of how or why the main character deserted
Movie very good sir
i'm at the first big fight scene with sofia and it looks like shit. completely bloodless. that stupid slowmo shit over and over like usual. choreographed stupidly.
worst of all this movie just looks like ass.
I am confident that this entire movie was AI generated.
Honestly it's embarrassing in a dunning-kruger kind of way.
This is the movie Snyder apparently always wanted to make.... and this is it.
Even before the release of Man of Steel, when asked about his favorite comic at a Con, he replied with some crap about George Lucas.
He wants to be George SOOOO badly.
exactly the kind of film this guy would make
>falling for marketing talk
>muh Dunning-Kruger
The irony.
i keep getting a kick out of how few people are in this town. space invaders come down and they zero in on this one community, perhaps the only one there. there's what? 50 people? 60?
this movie looks like shit and it's boring. i will assume there's no X rated nudity anywhere throughout, so for me that's gonna be three strikes.
>what if we do the Seven Samurai in the fricking Space and the Empire are the bandits
......
they covered their DEI quota with this single frame
man it's just heartbreaking to think of all these dude actors being like "man i gotta start dressing like a woman to get these parts"
you just know there are dozens of gay background actors who accidentally trooned out to get ahead in the biz
yeah dylan mulvaney was the albatross for this problem. it's just so strange like the twilight zone
C'mon, they started with the main character
Nice "non-pozzed" film you got there.
a 6/10 is a waste of my time
please, call me todd. my father is mr. dunning-kruger.
Was interesting to see both actors that played Daario Naharis in the same movie. Also I think Charlie Hunnam was wasted in this.
He was honestly the best character in my opinion. I always forget he exists but then am pleasantly surprised to see him in something.
Wasted as in died too soon
It was a bit baffling to me that all the antagonists and villains the characters meet in this movie are killed. Yes, the main villain was resurrected in the end, but it still felt like they left nothing for the sequel to even do.
Hunnam spent all his time trying to maintain his faux-Irish accent and forgot to act. Once you get over the accent all his lines are basically monotone.
i'm wasting my time
awful film
can't wait for the Plinkett review
The attempts at EPIC SWEEPING SCI-FI ironically make it feel much smaller, every outdoor shot has five closeup planets filling the sky but none of them look like they're in the scene. It just makes scenes I assume were shot in actual outdoor locations look like a tiny soundstage with an unconvincing greenscreen behind them.
i didn't mind that particular aspect so much, but i do agree about attempting epic sci fi. instead of just being comfortable in its own shoes, the whole experience comes off as tryhard.
what stood out most to me was the script, especially the dialog. this movie has the problem where every character sounds like they're speaking words that no one in real life says and it was so distracting. one scene in particular is in the beginning when one of the farmer guys is talking to the villain and uses the word benevolent when referring to him. i was just jesus god damned christ nobody much less a farmer would ever actually say benevolent.
every single shot is trying to be the binary suns scene from ANH
well that was a waste of time. the characters were the worst part. nothing characters. the characterless characters. corey stoll, one of the most milquetoast actors working today, made an impression. you know who didn't? daario 2. shirtless hawk man. obligatory djimon hounsou glorified cameo. the robot(?) ninja lady. why did hunan sign up for this? he's better than this.
terrilbe terrible movie. le terribleux. looked like shit. boring. nobody to root for. cringey dialogue. awful acting performances all around. added nothing new to the pantheon of scifi fantasy films. the worst offense is how bad this film looks. ass crap. worst of the worst. some cool designs wasted here. everything shot like shit. colored like shit. just an ugly ugly film.
Speaking of which, Digimon are the Champions was jacked as shit in this.
An hour of violent scenes will not solve the fundamental issues with the film.
Exactly right. Snyder sucks. Being edgy and violent for the sake of it with tons of swearing and nudity also sucks. I got the distinct impression that the Snyder cut is just going to be nonstop F bombs, the female lead having sex with at least 3 of the different men in the group, and gorier fight scenes. There still won't be a plot. There still won't be character development. The CGI will still be terrible. The fight scenes will still be dull and poorly choreographed with lots of needless slomo to try and hide how lame they are. The lighting and cinematography will still be bad. There will still be no cohesion to its designs and aesthetic leading to a distinctly AI generated look and feel to the movie. It's bad no matter what and Snyder will never make a good movie.
>no one in the village noticed the GIANT SPACESHIP hovering overhead til it was right over their fields
How did they not hear that coming from literally hundreds of kilometers away?
I dont get why all these people are teaming up with team farmer
What reason do they have to ally?
I know its hard but keep watching. ITs halfassedly explained in the scene where they get captured
>It's perfectly fine.
>perfect
>6/10
The state of snyderbros, holy shit.
Was Kora the one who killed the king and queen? That's the only thing I didn't get
at this point producers and directors of these big budget movies genuinely think the masses are beyond braindead moronic and believe this is actually what people want to see (they’re right sadly)
>at this point producers and directors of these big budget movies
Should stop financing Sneeder's projects. Period. Rebel Mid was definitely a movie, if it had a longer theatrical run, it probably would've made insane amounts of Morbillion $$$.
>it's another extreme closeup with depth of field of purest vaseline
>Kora randomly volunteers long flashbacks explaining her backstory....twice.
I can't believe they did a "If I tell you will you spare me? Yes. But you said you would spare me. Ha." scene non ironically.
Just finished part one
It was definitely silly and a mess, but generally entertaining. Whoever said 6/10 i agree with
>It is perfectly fine. 6/10 at the very least
holy cope
Notice how the people shitting on the film are always ranking it a 3/10? Oddly specific ranking from so many different anons. These shills are getting lazy
Maybe your movie is crap but not "literally one of the worst films ever made", just regular crap.
In the director's cut they reveal that the Imperium wasn't that bad when the old king was alive. The truly bad one was the general Balisarius, who's not native to the Mother World. He came from a conquered planet and decided to one day lead the Imperium.
The general Balisarius adopted and raise Kora because he sees himself in her. His plan was for him to slay the old king, make Kora slay the princess, so the two could lead the Imperium.
The old king was slain, but Kora ran after blowing the brains of the princess.
The Imperium know under the leadership of regent Balisarius is decaying and becoming more and more corrupt.
The plot twist is that Kora didn't actually kill the princess, Kora rescued the princess and took her to the farming planet. The princess is the farm girl seen talking with the robot.
Netflix asked to axe this from the theatrical cut because apparently having angry immigrants ruin the empire from within was bad optics, but it is still present in the director's cut.
Uh yeah you didn't need to tell me that "twist", I managed to figure that out from literally just the unsubtle conversation the not-princess had with the robot.
The princess can't be the water girl.
Water girl has an accent, and Korra has only been there like 3 years apparently. Nor does anyone mention her showing up with the blonde girl when arriving.
Stop going for logic, there is little elsewhere. They spelled that out for you pretty hard.
She is obvious the prophesied girl, the Chalice or the Redeemer. She is magic.
Maybe it's reincarnation or something.
I just feel like if that's literally the princess that she was guarding while in the army, people would have mentioned that they showed up together.
The music sinc during these scenes.
https://streamable.com/1ee6oh
Like, it's Snyder. He is not a subtle filmmaker.
>Girl's one job in the village is to collect water for everyone
>Princess was prophesied as "The Chalice" aka what you drink water from
Yeah, it's her. That scene was the least subtle shit of all time.
I feel like the royal family that is a thousand monarchs old should probably have more than 3 people in it.
like have you seen the Saudi royal family? That's only a hundred years old in its current incarnation, and the current crown prince had to cull a few dozen of them to consolidate power
Why did killing one gunner cause the entire ship to crash?
The gunner operates the ship with his brain. Him dying turned off the ship.
Why was an entire warship operated by 1 gunner via neural link.
That was the Gaze that crashed right? I was confused honestly.
Oh no guy with two scenes has died, girl with one scene and two lines must carry the torch.
LeBron James is going to play a secret character in Rebel Moon part 3.
What an insufferable twat! Snyder, amigo, pal, It's Joever, my pendejo, no one gives a shit about your bootleg Star Wars universe. Let it go, kid.
The thing that fricked with me the most was the dialogue. Why did you put bad fantasy dialogue into a sci-fi adventure movie?
Also despite being a shell of a character like all the other heroes, Kai was the only one that I actually liked and they killed him off in the dumbest way while keeping coomer alive. The anti-white messaging was so bizzare.
>mercenaries have south african accents
>farmers have irish accents
>lead badass girl has some exotic brownskin accent
>baddies, white dudes with generic english accents
>hero males are all browns with a complete mastery of combat
>10 minute long exposition, with more to come later
>slow motion
Tell me how snyder manages to get funding for this absolute slop
>Irish
You mean Scandinavian? Literally was named fricking Gunnar and shit. The town the mc lives in is basically vikingberg
The farming planet is meant to be actually a moon orbiting a Viking Planet. No, really.
The big bad had an (actual) Irish accent, and Charlie Hunnam had a fake Irish accent. No one in the farming village had an Irish accent, real or otherwise.
Profoundly moronic post
Blurry as shit, literally hurt my eyes to watch this.
Snyder insists on making himself the director of photography and he is bad at it.
>blurry
Like a teenage girl with her first SLR camera, he favors shallow depth of field over deep focus in scenes where it is inappropriate and unnecessary.
Not to mention all the damn slow motion.
bro they just straight up ripped the pods from The Matrix
What was wrong with a simple phone call?
Is there anything more shilled than Snyderslop?
Disney shit. The only difference is that Snyderjeets do it for free.
Name one thing he actually did wrong. You literally can't.
Balisarius raised Kora, so why the frick did Snyder cast a guy who's five years younger than her and looks like it
When they first meet he legitimately looks like a teenager and she mentions he was "young" then. So it's possible he'd actually not be much older than her. Maybe like 10 years older or something.
>Maybe like 10 years older or something.
Then they should've cast a guy in his 50s and not a 36-year-old who can't even pull off a fake beard.
You can't because the movie doesn't tell you one thing he actually did.
He is based on Joseph Stalin, who Zack Snyder hates with a passion.
>The Rebel Moon mythos is already charted out far beyond the events of the first two movies. Snyder has the history of the Imperium chronicled back in time several millennia, even including their universe creation mythology, some of which will be featured or referenced in flashbacks.
>Hundreds of years before the events of the movie there was a renaissance at the height of the Imperium. Art and culture were at their peak, but the Imperium has been in a state of disrepair since then, especially after the death of the “Slain King” four years prior to the events of Rebel Moon: A Child of Fire. According to producer Deborah Snyder: “after the royal family's death…they didn't try and advance…they were war machines. So that's, everything was very practical…it's just not taken care of like it was when the king was alive. All of that kind of gets lost, that appreciation of the art of everything.”
>While the Slain King was an Imperial colonizer, the Imperium got even more brutal and oppressive under the reign of his replacement, Regent Balisarius according to Zack Snyder: “the old king is much more a straight-up imperialist but like in the tradition you know where I feel like the Regent Balsarius he's much more like a dictator like, as [Joseph] Stalin was, you know, he'd be happy to raze a planet just for its natural resources rather than like ‘oh we should land and see what the people are like and maybe some of them can fight for us’ and you know like ‘maybe we could assimilate their culture into ours’ where it was a much more sort of 18th-century imperialism… with old king being based on the Nicholas II who was the last Tsar of the Russian Empire, that expansion was a bit aggressive but at the same there was a bit of compassion for its people, and now it's worse.”
>mythos
>it's just babby's first fantasy map with a bunch of place names and concepts copied from very popular movies
Yeah, we all did them in our teens, they all sucked. They should stay in your teens.
That's neat and all but someone has to rule the space empire so it may as well be the war hero.
There is rumor that a prince will be revealed soon, with the rumor saying that it will be played by Henry Cavill. He's going to play the Slain King's son, who wasn't able to take the crown because he is in a distant sector of space battling some space horrors or something. He'll appear in the third movie and be angry that his father and sister were slain by off-world scum and try to exact rebellion.
This is part of my confusion.
They never mention there being a possible new heir, so why doesn't Balisarius just make himself king? What's the point of a regency?
Ig having an actual prince would make things not work tho so yeh.
That would be so on the nose and lame. Henry would basically be playing Arthas, from World of Warcraft.
>Henry would basically be playing Arthas, from World of Warcraft.
Not seeing the problem here
homie, Sofia's character real name is... get this: Arthelais.
>he was like, a regular sort of dictator, this guy is like, the really bad sort of dictator and like, that's not good
>He is based on Joseph Stalin, who Zack Snyder hates with a passion.
Literally names one of the villains BELARUS. What was he trying to imply with that?
Why the frick did Jena Malone agree to be in this movie? She had like a minute of dialogue then was just a CG character for a fight scene. It wasn't like it was an extended character, she was in all that makeup for barely anything.
Probably got a nice paycheck out of it. It's a bigger movie than what she's usually in nowadays after all
Dr. Sindri, I’m rebel moon
Female lead. How pathetic are guys
Pretty much everyone in the show seems to have liked the old king so that's gonna be a cope from me Mr Snyder
>literally no one is talking about this
>nothing on social media
>nothing trending anywhere
>even Cinemaphile is barely talking about it
That lens has pretty ugly barrel distortion
Someone please take the camera away from Zack and hire him a cinematographer again. I think BvS is massively overrated in terms of cinematography but it didn't look like this.
Ah that patented Snyder "shitty greenscreen but with orange digital color grading" look. Distinct from Marvel's patented "shitty greenscreen but with no color grading" look.
>While there’s far more groups and factions in the Rebel Moon universe, that was the basic separation for most of the props we saw. Imperium technology is denoted by its more brutalist and utilitarian design and shows signs of deterioration and patchwork repairs, the rebels' technology is mostly stolen and repurposed Imperium technology, and Veldt technology is more hand-made, naturalistic, and aesthetically pleasing.
>Sci-fi weapons in other properties typically operate by shooting some sort of energy or laser, but Rebel Moon’s gun projectiles are a little different. Guns are loaded with tank-like magazines containing pressurized plasma. When fired, the guns shoot a blast of what prop master Brad Elliot described as a “lava cork.” Elliot says “it’s molten, it's heavy, and it's about the size of a cork. So if it hit you, it would knock you over, but the hole that it would create would cauterize.” On Veldt, the weapons operate on a similar technology, but operate a little differently and generally fire a larger chunk of plasma Elliot referred to as a “lava puck.”
The stupid lava guns didn't work. It just looked stupid.
It was just lasers.
Maybe it's my dad's tv or something but all of the backgrounds were glaringly fake and I could clearly see they were just acting in front of a greenscreen. The edge of the set was visible in every scene.
This. The backgrounds were very inconsistent. The physical sets were fine but the cgi/greenscreen ones were awful. The nuke scene for instance was absolutely egregious when they raze King Levitica's world.
That entire world looked fricking dreadful actually. Not a single shot of it looked like they were where they said they were. In fact the only worthwhile effect was the King there, whose CG looked well. Otherwise they all just looked like they were stood in a big green room. Even the introduction, we see a ship flying, then Sofia Boutella is just there on this void of a place talking to the King. Very jarring.
The worst part is much of it was on actual sets....but they're worthless because the unconvincing digital backgrounds just make the sets look small and cramped. There was a scene early on where she exposited her backstory to Daario 2, they were camping with another giant glowing Burning Crusade skybox in the background, and even though I bet that was filmed out in the desert shooting location ,it looked like the most rinky dink little soundstage in front of a greenscreen. It did the opposite of what it was supposed to do.
LMAO, NETFLIX is going all in on this.
I thought funko pops went out of business
Pic of the SLAIN KANG and the "DO YOU KNOW THE STORY OF THE PROPHESIED PRINCESS ISSA?"
I kind of dig the King's design and Admiral Noble's design but I wish the generic grunts didn't look like halo troopers and stuck with the roman/medievalist vibe
That princess is totally the blonde water girl in the village right?
Yes. Even the same music plays in their scenes.
Of course she is. The robot freaked out when she touched it.
Also, the whole thing about the robots not fighting after the royals died and him shooting the rapist soldier. Probably gonna be something with the robots turning coat as she joins the fight or whatever.
I'll probably check out the next one it comes out, but I can't say I expect much out of it.
Dumb theory. She isn't new to the town like the main character.
It's the most obvious shit in the world man.
Doubt it. Issa has a mole in her face that the village girl lacks.
No mole.
Are you blind?
Oh I see, it just happened to be a different blonde blue eyed girl that immediately forms a connection with the robot guard, touches him for a mysterious reaction to the same musical theme as the later scene of the princess touching a bird to resurrect it, and to which the robot breaks its pacifism routine specifically to save her
Explain how the princess of the galaxy managed to arrive in this random isolated viking hippie village without being outed as a stranger when Kora has been here 3 years and came alone in her ship.
Why Sofia Boutella has a ten minute flashback for just such an occasion
It's possible but not necessarily the case. Village girl actress is 19, Issa actress 13.
It seems to have been several years since the monarchs were assassinated, so it holds regardless
no, it was the idiot characters yelling to everyone they see they are on a secret mission to overthrow the empire ad not expecting to get caught, and yelling at a random bar where is the rebel leader and a random alien tells them everyone knows he is on that planet yet the empire hasn't found him yet
I assume they didn't bother arresting Titus because he was just a beaten, drunk hobo without an army. May as well let him die in shame.
The Coliseum belong to Imperium, so how that works?
But Admiral butthole said his actions betraying the empire were infamous throughout the galaxy and he was a major fugitive, it really doesn't seem to be difficult to track him down.
When they were in the bar early on, before the gay mobster showed up, they were openly loudly talking about finding the fugitive general and the Blood Axes. I was thinking, do you want to use some code names or keep it down a bit, like Obi-Wan when he hired a ship offered good money, for no questions asked, because he was in a hive of scum and villainy on a vital mission, and that's Star Wars, hardly high literature. But are you just asking to be found as rebels or what? You just saw a rebel adjacent guy get carted off on a robot scorpion right outside.
I think the tentacle scene was supposed to be like a bad guy's fetish, but all I could think was how incredibly unconvincing those CG tentacles were.
Can you explain what he was doing to his chest with those injections? I can't figure it out. Was it to dull the pain from the leech draining him?
The guy is so jacked up with mechanical shit that he’s barely human anymore. The whole point of that scene was to show how inhuman he was.
I assumed he was just injecting drugs, like opium. The vial looked like a sci-fi hookah.
The tentacle sex is actually an alien girl with tentacles giving the villain head, but they can't show that in this version of the movie.
Remember the horned alien woman that the camera focus on for a few seconds during the movie? She is somewhat important in the director's cut and she gets naked. This movie was fricking butchered.
Here's news about the R-rated cut.
>One of the main differences between the original and the director's cuts will be their explicit content. Rebel Moon received a PG-13 rating from the Motion Picture Association for "sequences of strong violence, sexual assault, bloody images, language, sexual material, and partial nudity." While the original version is already pushing the limits of the PG-13 rating and drawing some ire, the extended director's cuts will be rated R, allowing them to show even more of the aforementioned explicit content, including some very, VERY graphical sex scenes as well as a rape scene.
Why not just release the r rated version right away? Netflix has plenty of gory/soft porn shows already on its platform. They shouldn't care.
Because Snyder is now handing in the assembly cut of his films and calling it a "director's cut" to excuse the fact that he's incapable of editing.
Why not just hire an editor. Do Hollywood film makers all edit their own films? I doubt it.
This had an editor, some 68 year old lady according to Wikipedia. Seems she's just not a very good one.
Perhaps you should not position all your films as being shit until you get a 3 hour "director's cut", just because you did that once before with Justice League, a film which was largely reshot by a different director with a different script, not one that was simply cut down.
Oh sorry, he also did that previously with Watchmen and BvS too, I forgot. Apparently his films are just too complex to come in under 180 minutes.
The apparent reason was the runtime. Netflix told him most people won't watch long movies on their streaming. They'll binge shows for hours, but won't sit down to watch long movies. So Netflix asked him if he wanted to cut the movie in two and if possible making under two hours, with him being allowed to do whatever he wants with his own director's cut.
And the reason he couldn't make his PG13 cut 10 minutes longer to include some actual connective tissue is? Since I'm assuming the extra hour of the R rated cut is not simply 60 minutes of gore shots added to scenes and nude shots.
>tfw no bennu
I hope the extra hour of content will be dedicated to worldbuilding, character moments and political intrigue on Motherworld 🙂
Just watching the first 10 minutes was painful. The Dune-like narrative to explain the story; The painful introduction of the first characters; the sexual dialogue that was as bad as Matrix sex scenes.
Awful movie.
The weirdest thing about this show is that the Netflix subtitles bother to do things line say "Nuwahur-class ship powering up"
Or "ZX87 pattern rifle firing"
But they never actually mention the names of the guns or ship classes on their own. Weird detail.
>It is perfectly fine.
and that isn't acceptable.... why are people ok with an average film
Why does the Admiral fight with a walking cane instead of a gun or lighstaber
>During the "Rebel Moon" red carpet in London, Skrein revealed the history behind Adm. Noble's unique weapon: a cane mafrom of a leg bone.
>"It comes from a mythological creature that is written into our religion. So it's almost like the equivalent of somebody had a dodo bone now," he said. "Although it's not from religion, or if it had religious connotations or like a dinosaur bone, so it's very opulent to have such a thing."
My main question is why the frick is the robot not the main character? He immediately has a more compelling story just from one scene of discussing his lost purpose.
In the director's cut we see Kora fricking not only one, but THREE CHARACTERS. You can easily guess them.
We see an alien girl having tentacle sex with the villain.
We see several naked aliens.
We see the farming girl tit while being molested.
We see worse shit from Kora's backstory.
>You can easily guess them
Her boyfriend from the army that died, and Gunnar, but who would be the third? Kai?
The other farmer that is held as a great hunter in the village. When she comes from the party to come to sleep and has that conversation with the old man about her needing to find a more permanent relationship, she'd just come from fricking the village hunter.
The other is Kai, of course. Which is why she was so hurt by his betrayal, and why that scene about him goofing about being a changed man actually happens. The director's cut set up a love triangle between Gunnar, Kora, and Kai, with Gunnar essentially being cuckolded throughout the movie by Kora because she's sleeping with several guys BUT him, despite him being in love with her.
Then at some point she actually sleep with Gunnar before the ending, when they're all heading back to the village.
>When she comes from the party to come to sleep and has that conversation with the old man about her needing to find a more permanent relationship, she'd just come from fricking the village hunter.
Ohhhhhhh
Is that what she meant by
"It's easy between us"
They were already fricking? Lmao. Imagine being G00nar.
Yes. The whole village eventually start to frick during the party, like some weird sexed-up viking village. Some characters walk off to sleep or because they find it too much. Gunnar actually get to see Kora running with the hunter before leaving himself to sulk alone in the plowing fields.
That's just fricking weird.
What does this add to the film?
Sex. The director's gore with be filled with needlessly graphical sex scenes, weird fetishes for the sake of it, and over-the top gore. Didn't you found weird how characters are always shooting at nothing? That screaming girl that started shooting after Cyborg actor died? She actually shot several soldiers, but because their deaths are gory they cut the scenes out.
Dunno, but it sure added material to Snyder's personal wank bank.
why do I feel like the motivation for constant banging is "they don't frick in Star Wars, but they frick in MY space opera because it's deep and mature"?
Apparently, Zack Snyder have autism about things being left implied. He wants to see it all.
Same reason why Batman killed in BvS. The reason wasn't so much because Batman was worn down and suicidal, but because Snyder hates it that superhero movies always cut away whenever a henchmen gets knocked out by a hero, specially in circumstances that could end up with their possible death. So he wanted to show Batman "actually" killing henchmen.
Same with this. He knows that Star Wars had sex and everything, because of the Cantina. But he wants it to be shown.
Daario 2, Griffin guy, and I don't know, the robot.
Goonar, Charlie Hunnan and her dead boyfriend
Why would I watch a movie when I was told by the director there's a directors cut? I'll wait.
>we must recruit warriors
>leave the robot behind for some reason even though he's apparently able to kill again
They gave him a proper introduction and motivation unlike most of the other characters then just leave him for the rest of the movie.
Compare the Asian girl who had basically no characterization except for one line by another character several scenes later. She was just a character design.
The fact that he was able to break his pacifism glitch to save the water girl is the strongest piece of evidence she's royalty imo.
How did the robot get more character development in one scene than anyone else in this movie?
Because several scenes were cut from this version. The coliseum? Yeah, you actually get to see General Titus fighting in it with a giant four armed alien.
Tarzan here is never wearing a shirt is he
No, nor ever using guns despite this being a space movie.
that doesn't tell me anything, it's just another fight scene, I can expect slo-mo and bad choreography, whoopdie doo
Because robot characters, due to their inherent inhuman nature often contrasting with their reckoning with very human emotions, are a potent source of pathos for audiences, even when written by a shite writer like Snyder. Robot characters are regularly a highlight of sci-fi media, they're hard to get wrong frankly. The Tin Man, basically.
Now, the fact that the robot got an extended dialogue scene that had absolutely nothing to do with the central plot of recruiting seven space samurai, and simply featured him talking about his uncertain place in the universe and his feelings of failure, that also might have something to do with it. Compare that to the amount of character development the goon squad got. New planet, new gimmick fighter, recruited, exposition scene, new planet, new gimmick fighter, rinse and repeat.
Tarak, the Conan character was inspired by... obviously Conan but also a weird source: Final Fantasy.
Zack Snyder is apparently a fan of the JRPG games and was inspired to create this fantasy prince with awesome nature powers.
Every scene was ripped off from another intellectual property.
>remember the bar scene in star wars
>wow just like 40k
>This guy like Thanos
>iRobot but with antlers!
>Aliens but the queen has breasts and she's fighting a ninja jedi
I heard that this movie has a rape/sexual assault scene...is it true?
The bad guy soldiers try to gangrape a girl in cartoonish villain fashion while cackling about it in unison
The extra evil soldier who was extra evil to everyone and everything made me laugh, like how are you even alive? In this lawless universe you're telling me no one just shot him in the head at some point before now?
ahh shame. I thought it would be like a 1v1 and not gangrape bad shit with "LOOK HOW EVIL THEY ARE!!!"
Some extremely evil soldiers who seem to do nothing but evil soldier things try to gangrape a village girl, complete with laughable dialogue, then the protagonist shows up and kills them
Scenes not shown in the movie.
The Adeptus Mechanicus scene, what the hell was that?
Which was that?
When they resurrect the bad guy at the end, they send his "mind" into a matrix like space
Well you see, they never invented telephones in Motherworld. So they had to invent The Matrix to communicate.
So much cut from the movie.
Was the buzz cutted girl supposed to be someone? Because she just walked into a scene and the movie acted like we already met her earlier and she'd been established. But she hadn't. I had no idea who she was. Then later she's getting an oh no the leader is dead sad scene and I still don't know who she is.
She's just some rebel who had a crush on the angry black rebel man
I barely knew the black man's character when he's getting a big heroic sacrifice, I know his random underling even less.
She is a girl that was rescued by the Bloodaxes and became a rebel. The movie has a whole backstory for her, but it was cut.
She goes from a cute girl to a troony after joining the rebels.
The cost of treason
>The movie has a whole backstory for her, but it was cut.
You know, making a movie that's 7 hours long and then has to be cut down to 2 hours and thus is incomprehensible might point to your original 7 hour requirement to make sense as being a flaw.
The robot have tons of scenes in the director's cut according to Zack Snyder.
Looking forward to more. It has potential to be yuge.
There were more scenes about the Regent Balisarius, showing him murdering the king and being a c**t.
https://streamable.com/v4zmgx
Also, apparently there are talks about a TV show focusing entirely on the evil Regent. It is so obvious that Snyder is way more into the Imperium than the actually good guys.
I mean it's pretty obvious that Balisarius murdered the royals tbh. I took that for a given even if its never stated.
>The bad guys are the more interesting part
Yeah no shit
Him being a weird murderous c**t that love war and conquest would be great.
Is this him getting crowned? Interesting thing to cut.
Here's is a thing. In the movie there is an orgy shown when depicting the MotherWorld. You see someone fricking four naked women, including the horned alien girl. This isn't in this version of the movie. She is a plant sent to spy the inner circle on Mother World.
I've the actresses listed.
Literally made for white men(me specifically)
Here are the other "courtesan" actresses.
Someone please explain why stabbing a spear in the turret gunner caused the ship to crash. Is there a ten minute flashback that would explain it cut from the film?
Apparently the gunner was also the driver
....why?
Idk. The whole ship being sideways confused me tbh.
The cast needs the context and fleshing out but I wish it was via actual dialogue and not cutscene spam lol
This is exactly why the robot felt more engaging, he had an actual dialogue scene instead of just press play on flashback.
Tarzan guy really did nothing in this film. Even less than the other characters. But we got a whole terrible scene of him flying a hippogriff.
The funny thing is that the director's cut have an entire different opening and ending. Most of the POV isn't even focused on Kora, the protagonist.
>"We're still tweaking, but they'll probably be 45-minutes to an hour longer, each one. You get more character. You get a lot more of everything. It's not just a few deleted scenes."
>Snyder teased: “It’s, like, an hour longer and has a whole other opening that’s all Ed (Skrein). It focus on Belisarius. It’s really crazy.”
>“Basically, there was a Royal Family devouring the universe but with benevolent intentions,” Snyder explained.
>“Then, once [Regent] Balisarius (Fra Free) comes to power, it’s more of a Napoleonic concept, as he was afraid of the Motherworld’s Empire but decide to take it from within.
>“And I just think that those things are so easy to relate to in our history and mythology. And it’s incredible how humans just keep doing the same thing over and over.”
>And it’s incredible how humans just keep doing the same thing over and over.”
Yes, indeed, you're still doing the same shitty slo-mo.