It's because her being a shapeshifter was the last minute addition, and it doesn't affect the plot in any way whatsoever, you could remove it entirely and nothing would have changed.
It’s been mentioned elsewhere it was to appease censors for pg rating and international release. At the time of filming Zam was just meant to be a female human but having the jedi cut the arm off a woman and then showing her get killed with a dart in her throat was too violent. We didn’t see Corde get killed in such a violent way it was shot from afar and Padme came across her after the explosion. But by making Zam not exactly human or female (male alien disguised as a beautiful woman) it may have made the death scene work for the censors.
Me too, I also vaguely remember having a star wars mini figure of her with two faces on the head you could swap around and thought it was morbid to including her "corpse face"
>the chad businessman Jango Fett >takes multiple bounties across the galaxy at the same time >subcontracts out to small time bounty hunters for a small cut >rents out his genome to the Kaminoans for free board and childcare while simultaneously reproducing at 10,000x the rate of the average living organism >builds multiple streams of passive income >attends high profile executions >intentionally gets beheaded in his middle age so his son can inherit his wealth before a lifetime of career-based injuries makes him a medical burden
>Boba you're the greatest bounty hunter and killer in the galaxy >I need you to kill Senator Padme >Okay I will hire another person who will use a droid to plant killer worms in his rooms while he's asleep >I'm the fricking best.
And don't forget >the droid that deposited the worms is easily followed and tracked back to the assassin
Can someone just explain why George bailed on Aurra Sing? From what I understand, he went to great expense to put her into Phantom Menace, presumably so that her character could have an expanded role in the next two films. Then, there was a rumor that this chick replaced Aurra Sing for some reason. It's really confusing.
And then, of course, George botched the post-prequels canon of Aurra Sing but that's just George being George.
Huh? What makes you say he "bailed" on her and that she was ever supposed to be anything greater than an extra in The Phantom Menace? You seem to give the character quite a big importance, when it was just the EU doing the EU things: taking a random background character that appeared for 5 seconds and ridiculously filling the details.
She was just a random bounty hunter, and that's all she ever was to George. Nothing indicates she was ever anything more in his head.
>Boba you're the greatest bounty hunter and killer in the galaxy >I need you to kill Senator Padme >Okay I will hire another person who will use a droid to plant killer worms in his rooms while he's asleep >I'm the fricking best.
>palpatine hired jango fett, who hired another bounty hunter, who hired a droid, who hired two slugs to kill padme
It always makes me laugh when people complain about Boba hiring another bounty hunter do his job being ridiculous, then real life has even more outlandish schemes.
The reason this happened was because none of these "hitmen" were actually professional killers. IIRC the first guy was just a co-worker of the guy who wanted someone killed and said he would do it without any experience and got cold feet so he hired someone else.
Jango is supposed to be an already established deadly and feared bounty hunter.
Source? When was it stated or hinted? The point was to assassinate senator Amidala, which was ordered by Nute Gunray as a condition to join Dooku's Separatist Alliance. Nowhere was there ever stated that discovering Kamino was the goal. The movie portrayed it as entirely accidental.
So, why didn't he kill Padme with a Kaminoan dart? moron. What if Zam succeeded in killing her with the bugs? Then Jango would not have killed her with the Kaminoan dart and they would never find Kamino. The whole thing is fricking moronic. Think for more than 5 fricking seconds, idiot. It's all fricking plot contrivance that doesn't make a lick of sense and happened entirely on accident, because George needed plotpoint "B" to happen.
And to add to that, he previously tried to kill her in the ship bombing at the beginning of the film. What if he had succeeded back then? No Kamino then.
>hmm the assassin used a very poisonous alien worm to kill padme, there are only a few black market vendors willing to carry them as stock. surely we can find out who bought them. anakin, go sulk for a bit about your dead girlfriend or whatever while i follow this lead
>hmm the assassin was caught on security holofootage planting the charges on the landing pad. i can take this to the jedi's underworld contacts to id them. anakin, go sulk for a bit about your dead girlfriend or whatever while i follow this lead
> hmmm I have some mysterious poison darts should I use the vast resources of the Jedi temple to learn more about them > actually no the best person to see is this fat greasy wog who runs a diner
Lucas is a hack
Was his Diner like the only 1 story building on the ecumenopolis of Coruscant or was it just a single story of a very narrow building hundreds of stories tall?
Even though it's really a dumb convenience to get the plot continuing along, I still really like the 50's diner, and would eat there all the time if I could.
The game bounty hunter on ps2 gave Zam and Jango a real friendship that was fun and it makes rewatching this scene with the ruthlessness that he kills her kind of jarring
Boba(he wears less armor than dad)
bossk(eats his own father)
Ig88, (badass eu ending)
4lom(bad ass beginning
Dengar(bassass potential ending)
zuckuss(simps for 4lom)
>rain pounding on the coruscant streets like drums >changling gets shot with dart >Obi wan looks up towards the direction the dart arrived and back at the changling >"Who was your employer!" >"M-mandolorian.." *dies* >obiwan goes to dexter jextar >"I'm looking for an assassin a...mandolorian" >"oy vey obiwan my good friend who i've known for years and went on many adventures with, mandolorians don't normally assassinate they consider it dishonorable(making up my own lore as we go btw). The only ones that would do that kind of work are exiles. Do you remember his insignia? I have a contact who...dables in these kind of things my good friend obiwan who I've known for years and this isn't the first time we are talking." >*obiwan goes to a bounty hunters den, levels down below the surface, rhyming once again with the cantina scene exotic and dangerous looking aliens stare* >obiwan walks up to the tender >"What can I get ya?" >"I'm looking for an assassin. A...mandolorian assassin. " >*bartender looks suspiciously* >"and what does a JEDI*says it disgustedly* need with one of those." >"Personal business. I've used him before and he's quite effective. Here's his insignia" >*shows the a datapad with jangos insignia* >Bartender doesn't even look at it >"We don't deal with assassins. Or jedi. We only hire bounty hunters." >*obiwan begins to raise his hand to use the force suggestion on the bartender/proprietor but some other patron walks up* >"I know that insignia. It's Jango Fett. The swamp rat stole a bounty from under me." >It's a character from the famous bounty hunter scene from Empire, doesn't matter who just pick one. >"He's working for the kaminoans. He rarely takes bounties anymore...heh, I thought he was dead until he showed up a cycle ago with his changeling to swipe my bounty."
And then the rest of the movie proceeds as it was. Wow, I just improved the movie in a 10 minute quick draft. You can thank me later.
Was Zam a troony? what if Jango in reality Fricked an Alien Male? being Transgender in the Star Wars Galaxy is Normal the Hutts can Choose their own Gender
This does seem to be implied by Zam’s deeper voice when his true form is revealed. Though it is unclear if Jango was meant to know this originally in the film.
Were the Jedi right all along when they sensed Zam from afar and referred to the assassin as male initially?
ACKbar
imagine tapping this prime reptilian pussy
MOMMY
>boots offer protection from toxic kitchen slops
That's just a euphemism for Dexter's excretions
Yes please
I'd fill her up with juicy you-know-what
She cute
When u nut but she still shapeshifting
ZAMN
When I was a kid I thought that the poison dart sucked the life out of her and never realized that she was a shapeshifter
Took me a long time to get it too. It's a pretty superfluous thing.
It's because her being a shapeshifter was the last minute addition, and it doesn't affect the plot in any way whatsoever, you could remove it entirely and nothing would have changed.
I wonder why. Knowing Lucas it must have been a reference to some other movie, but nothing comes to mind
It’s been mentioned elsewhere it was to appease censors for pg rating and international release. At the time of filming Zam was just meant to be a female human but having the jedi cut the arm off a woman and then showing her get killed with a dart in her throat was too violent. We didn’t see Corde get killed in such a violent way it was shot from afar and Padme came across her after the explosion. But by making Zam not exactly human or female (male alien disguised as a beautiful woman) it may have made the death scene work for the censors.
Same it was scary
Me too, I also vaguely remember having a star wars mini figure of her with two faces on the head you could swap around and thought it was morbid to including her "corpse face"
>star wars mini figure of her
this is why the entire character and ridiculous subplot exists
how comfy was the short bus
captain Black person
Why did Jango kill her but not the Jedi?
why didn't the assassin bot blow up when the Jedi jumped on it?
>palpatine hired jango fett, who hired another bounty hunter, who hired a droid, who hired two slugs to kill padme
https://vocaroo.com/1mKIHlRtWD9N
No how could we have know..
He created five jobs!
>the chad businessman Jango Fett
>takes multiple bounties across the galaxy at the same time
>subcontracts out to small time bounty hunters for a small cut
>rents out his genome to the Kaminoans for free board and childcare while simultaneously reproducing at 10,000x the rate of the average living organism
>builds multiple streams of passive income
>attends high profile executions
>intentionally gets beheaded in his middle age so his son can inherit his wealth before a lifetime of career-based injuries makes him a medical burden
He didn't hire zam, they were partners. Zam owned the droid with the centipede things. It's not complicated
Not implied anywhere
>partner
>literally did everything
What was boba fett's payment policy and were the slugs registered employees of boba fett's company?
I thought Dooku hired Jango..?
And don't forget
>the droid that deposited the worms is easily followed and tracked back to the assassin
boba tea
Can someone just explain why George bailed on Aurra Sing? From what I understand, he went to great expense to put her into Phantom Menace, presumably so that her character could have an expanded role in the next two films. Then, there was a rumor that this chick replaced Aurra Sing for some reason. It's really confusing.
And then, of course, George botched the post-prequels canon of Aurra Sing but that's just George being George.
Huh? What makes you say he "bailed" on her and that she was ever supposed to be anything greater than an extra in The Phantom Menace? You seem to give the character quite a big importance, when it was just the EU doing the EU things: taking a random background character that appeared for 5 seconds and ridiculously filling the details.
She was just a random bounty hunter, and that's all she ever was to George. Nothing indicates she was ever anything more in his head.
Cosmonaut Variety Hour made Cinemaphile seethe over this scene
>heres that glup shitto I was telling you about
>Boba you're the greatest bounty hunter and killer in the galaxy
>I need you to kill Senator Padme
>Okay I will hire another person who will use a droid to plant killer worms in his rooms while he's asleep
>I'm the fricking best.
It actually was Jango, but still I agree with your point. Attack of the Clones was such an unbelievably stupid movie, no wonder it's the worst one.
It always makes me laugh when people complain about Boba hiring another bounty hunter do his job being ridiculous, then real life has even more outlandish schemes.
Oh wow, that one ridiculous case justifies it, then. (No)
There are many moronic things other than a ridiculously stupid chain of people there.
>Oh wow, that one ridiculous case justifies it, then
Yes.
Shouldn't only four be jailed and the fifth get a pass for reporting it?
The reason this happened was because none of these "hitmen" were actually professional killers. IIRC the first guy was just a co-worker of the guy who wanted someone killed and said he would do it without any experience and got cold feet so he hired someone else.
Jango is supposed to be an already established deadly and feared bounty hunter.
You forgot
>The worms will be the most evil dark side killing intent worms in the galaxy that warns every Jedi near it before it strikes
The point was to lure Obi Wan to Kamino so the Republic could gain access to the clone army and Palpatine could start a civil war.
Why didn't Senator Palpatine just tell the Jedi about Kamino?
why do you think
you can do it
Source? When was it stated or hinted? The point was to assassinate senator Amidala, which was ordered by Nute Gunray as a condition to join Dooku's Separatist Alliance. Nowhere was there ever stated that discovering Kamino was the goal. The movie portrayed it as entirely accidental.
>i want padme dead otherwise i won't join the sepratists
>don't worry bro, i've got just the guy who can do it...
So, why didn't he kill Padme with a Kaminoan dart? moron. What if Zam succeeded in killing her with the bugs? Then Jango would not have killed her with the Kaminoan dart and they would never find Kamino. The whole thing is fricking moronic. Think for more than 5 fricking seconds, idiot. It's all fricking plot contrivance that doesn't make a lick of sense and happened entirely on accident, because George needed plotpoint "B" to happen.
And to add to that, he previously tried to kill her in the ship bombing at the beginning of the film. What if he had succeeded back then? No Kamino then.
>hmm the assassin used a very poisonous alien worm to kill padme, there are only a few black market vendors willing to carry them as stock. surely we can find out who bought them. anakin, go sulk for a bit about your dead girlfriend or whatever while i follow this lead
>hmm the assassin was caught on security holofootage planting the charges on the landing pad. i can take this to the jedi's underworld contacts to id them. anakin, go sulk for a bit about your dead girlfriend or whatever while i follow this lead
>his
>he's
padme is a guy!?
Mercenaries work with subcontractors all the time
> hmmm I have some mysterious poison darts should I use the vast resources of the Jedi temple to learn more about them
> actually no the best person to see is this fat greasy wog who runs a diner
Lucas is a hack
Was his Diner like the only 1 story building on the ecumenopolis of Coruscant or was it just a single story of a very narrow building hundreds of stories tall?
Even though it's really a dumb convenience to get the plot continuing along, I still really like the 50's diner, and would eat there all the time if I could.
Amazing how Obi Wan and Anakin caught a woman the exact moment she turned 30.
why did a bounty hunter hire another bounty hunter to do his job?
>mfw watching this scene after playing bounty hunter and seeing the interactions between jango and zam
it hurts
>They must secretly love each ot-oh no he killed her.
Charles Sneed or Chuck as he liked to be called (later went by just Sneed)
The game bounty hunter on ps2 gave Zam and Jango a real friendship that was fun and it makes rewatching this scene with the ruthlessness that he kills her kind of jarring
TELL US NOW
So canonically who is the best bounty hunter?
Jango Fett > Cad Bane > Boba Fett
Wrong.
Boba(he wears less armor than dad)
bossk(eats his own father)
Ig88, (badass eu ending)
4lom(bad ass beginning
Dengar(bassass potential ending)
zuckuss(simps for 4lom)
SNEED
>Ack? What kinda name is Ack?
>her name is zam wesell
Is this supposed to sound like weasel? Because all I'm hearing is "ZAMN! WE SELL!"
Zam Wiesel, Holocaust Survivor
>rain pounding on the coruscant streets like drums
>changling gets shot with dart
>Obi wan looks up towards the direction the dart arrived and back at the changling
>"Who was your employer!"
>"M-mandolorian.." *dies*
>obiwan goes to dexter jextar
>"I'm looking for an assassin a...mandolorian"
>"oy vey obiwan my good friend who i've known for years and went on many adventures with, mandolorians don't normally assassinate they consider it dishonorable(making up my own lore as we go btw). The only ones that would do that kind of work are exiles. Do you remember his insignia? I have a contact who...dables in these kind of things my good friend obiwan who I've known for years and this isn't the first time we are talking."
>*obiwan goes to a bounty hunters den, levels down below the surface, rhyming once again with the cantina scene exotic and dangerous looking aliens stare*
>obiwan walks up to the tender
>"What can I get ya?"
>"I'm looking for an assassin. A...mandolorian assassin. "
>*bartender looks suspiciously*
>"and what does a JEDI*says it disgustedly* need with one of those."
>"Personal business. I've used him before and he's quite effective. Here's his insignia"
>*shows the a datapad with jangos insignia*
>Bartender doesn't even look at it
>"We don't deal with assassins. Or jedi. We only hire bounty hunters."
>*obiwan begins to raise his hand to use the force suggestion on the bartender/proprietor but some other patron walks up*
>"I know that insignia. It's Jango Fett. The swamp rat stole a bounty from under me."
>It's a character from the famous bounty hunter scene from Empire, doesn't matter who just pick one.
>"He's working for the kaminoans. He rarely takes bounties anymore...heh, I thought he was dead until he showed up a cycle ago with his changeling to swipe my bounty."
And then the rest of the movie proceeds as it was. Wow, I just improved the movie in a 10 minute quick draft. You can thank me later.
Was Zam a troony? what if Jango in reality Fricked an Alien Male? being Transgender in the Star Wars Galaxy is Normal the Hutts can Choose their own Gender
This does seem to be implied by Zam’s deeper voice when his true form is revealed. Though it is unclear if Jango was meant to know this originally in the film.
Were the Jedi right all along when they sensed Zam from afar and referred to the assassin as male initially?