It was pretty good. The only let down was the rather basic plot that we've seen before in Ghibli movies.
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It was pretty good. The only let down was the rather basic plot that we've seen before in Ghibli movies.
>The only let down was the rather basic plot that we've seen before in Ghibli movies.
I thought it was convoluted to the point of being nonsensical.
I don't see how anyone could not understand it. Maybe you haven't watched enough ghibli kino? It was pretty straightforward.
Ok so why does him mum not know who he is but suddenly knows at the end of the movie? Why does his grand uncle send him back to the dungeon to be eaten when he figures out the blocks are evil? Why is the heron’s human design so unappealing and why is he a main character if he’s just played for shitty comedy relief?
>Ok so why does him mum not know who he is but suddenly knows at the end of the movie?
It was never implied that she didn't know. She probably knew the entire time, since she already knew about her sister (his aunt) and probably figured it out one of the many times he said "Aunt Natsuko"
>Why does his grand uncle send him back to the dungeon to be eaten when he figures out the blocks are evil?
He was never there, it was a dream communication thing.
>Why is the heron’s human design so unappealing and why is he a main character if he’s just played for shitty comedy relief?
He was a good character and he saved the protagonist multiple times.
> Why is the heron’s human design so unappealing and why is he a main character if he’s just played for shitty comedy relief?
His name is only in the western title, you got Kangaroo Jack’d.
Beautiful artwork
Shit characters
Shit dialogue (in english)
Choppy pacing
Confusing plot that hardly explained shit
5/10
Why does Spirited Away get no shit for having no story. It’s pretty clear all of the Ghibli movies are designed around the visuals with a lose plot connecting them. Spirited Away makes no sense at all, they just put scenes together. This one atleast has an explanation for Mojito navigating purgatory and has him make a full arc on mourning death and growing up.
>Why does Spirited Away get no shit for having no story
How do you figure?
Spirited Away tends is fairly cohesive with its elements.
For the number of characters in the movie, you can still easily generate something like a relationship tree that quickly defines how all of them interact with each other. The world outside of the bathhouse is a bit more nebulous, but the world building within it is rock solid.
wildly incoherent
his most incoherent, self referential, paper thin one dimensional movie he's ever made. The plot was NOTHING. It goes to several different locations and introduces a bunch of characters for no reason at such a break neck speed that it starts to become comedic at how much is crammed into a 2 hour film. It's like the art was made before the story was actually written.
They did Shinkai dirty. Making a 'fantasy alt. world' and so soon after Suzume. Everything Shinkai does, Miyazaki showed he can do better.
Miyazaki disrespected Shinkai.
Haven't seen the dubbed yet. How is it?
Shinkai's story template is literally just the same damn thing he's always done since Distant Star:
>young teenage couple
>in love, but separated by distance
>one or the other tries to find ways to reunite in somehow
>also has a sci-fi inspired backdrop for some reason
>rinse, spit, repeat
The only time he ever ventured from the norm was with "Children Who Chase Lost Voices," and that one sucked.
>incoherent
Plotgays have no business discussing film.
Motif and screenplay gays have no business discussing film.
His other films are a lot more straightforward in terms of beats and points.
This one, you can't even tell if it's really "fantasy" until about 45 minutes in. Then after that the plot is so disjointed that there's not an obvious connection between everything until the very end.
The movie is good allegory and visuals and it makes enough sense to work. As a swan song? Fricking great, I loved it.
But it only really shines in context with the rest of his filmography, not as something standalone.
I think the Wind Rises works as a better goodbye film for him
I'll be honest, I haven't seen wind rises.
Didn't appeal to me and I didn't really take it seriously as a swan song. It was pretty clear Miyazaki wasn't really done.
A decade later though, it's like, "Yeah, this is probably the one".
Wind Rises feels like an apology to Miyazaki's loved ones that he spent too much time on his work and has now decided to finally live his life. It's extremely personal and a very nice reflection on how someone should balance work with their personal life.
Out of the watchable Ghilbi movies, which is most of them for me, Wind Rises is probably my least favorite.
Do you feel that wind rises tackled his acceptance with leaving the industry?
I think that's what stood out to me for Boy and the Heron and was a lot of why I liked it.
>Do you feel that wind rises tackled his acceptance with leaving the industry?
his self insert protagonist voiced by his student Hideaki Anno is literally told to move on and live his life
I'll give it a shot.
Boy and the Heron doesn't just feel like he's coming to terms with leaving the industry, it feels like he's expecting it to fricking implode.
>it feels like he's expecting it to fricking implode.
Lemme rephrase, it's more about how he knows his studio is completely fricked without him, and leaving the industry means that Ghibli essentially ends.
The "industry" as a whole is fine in the end of the movie. The birds all survived, the world keeps spinning, and Mahito even kept a stone remnant. It seems more like he expects things to move along without him, it's just "his" world that's ending.
The wind rises is good the first time you watch it. Then you realise it’s about an butthole with Aspergers who chases after a girl who falls for him and then, when they finally get married and she’s fricking dying of tuberculosis, he ignores her to design planes for the military.
Just watched Nausicaa last night, Princess Mononoke is just Nausicaa without the guns and tanks and airplanes.
There's a pretty sharp distinction between the aesthetics of the films.
I'd put Nausicca half way between Castle in the Sky and Princess Mononoke.
Are you moronic? One of the defining aspects of the "evil" faction in Mononoke is the fact they have firearms. Admittedly early arquebus style ones, but firearms all the same and a major reason as to why the balance of power in the film is so out of whack.
The one responsible for plot died
it was like a Miyazaki parody, cant remember shit
pretty cool visuals tho, and we were only 4 in the theater
It was good. The King Parakeet slicing his sword through the stones was pure kino. And it was cute seeing the boy hand out a version of his mother.
It was a little incoherent at times, but I liked it since it made it feel more ephemeral and dreamlike. And the ending really did explain mostly everything.