>John needs to be a conservative uncle tom to defend his white co-worker while together ganging up and shitting on a disfranchised black guy
If this was boondocks episode with john stewart saying the same as your post, the morons would be praising it because it is literally what McGruder thinks of the black community in general, a bunch of self hating Uncle Ruckus and rileys.
Didn’t an artist due a response to this scene where GL mentions how many times he’s saved the planet, where this man lives? I can’t recall who did it or where to find it, but I remember it being posted somewhere back in the day.
The ONE black person in DC’s office at the time hated this story, he pointed out to the writers/artists that Hal saved the planet a million times and this speech makes the old black guy look like a hypocrite and Hal feel guilty for nothing. All around it was just fricken awkward.
>Hal did X so he doesn’t have to care about anything else!
So Hal is a lazy butthole who purposefully chooses to ignore other problems despite having the power to do something about it. Ie he’s a shit hero who only to shot when it happens to endanger his home. Typical conservative.
well-meaning but clumsy inspirational issue-focused writing in the 70s is not the same thing as the systematic disenfranchisement, deplatforming, and general race to the bottom to see who deserves the most reparations that we have today. at least the 70s was TRYING. and you could say whatever the frick you wanted, and people could say what they wanted right back.
What’s odd is that Superman in the Golden Age was tackling social problems. It’s almost like comics went the opposite way post-Golden Age. Maybe it was related to WW2 ending.
Take over the planet apparently. I’m pretty sure the last thing Hal would want is to be in charge of how other people live, that’s completely contrary to his character. Even back then he was never supposed to be an authority figure, given how he drifted from job to job. I think he was written that way more to facilitate the story than anything else.
That being said, I still enjoy this series. Almost has an Easy Rider vibe to it, even if Hal in his previous characterization would probably be more similar to Ollie than not. Not politically, I’m talking more in terms of attitude.
Hal’s entirely willing to overthrow governments when he doesn’t like it, like when he deposed Sinestro’s dictatorship, but turns a blind eye to his own home world’s deep racist and prejudices and oppression of minorities. He could do more. He could think about it. Spend his time better. But he doesn’t because Hal’s an idiot.
Do you want Hal to frick you in the ass, anon? Because you’re giving off the vibe that you want Hal to be your dom daddy and presumably pleasure you with green sex toy constructs.
Oppressive governments on Earth use weapons to do the same.
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Hal is an agent of the GLC, you don’t get to pick and choose which governments are legitimate for your own home planet, that would result in Hal himself deciding what’s right and wrong for his people, without their input. Sinestro was using a power ring and abusing his authority as an officer of Corps, which is why he was removed.
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>you don’t get to pick and choose which governments are legitimate for your own home planet
Oh I see but you get the freedom to do it on other planets and imposing his sense of right and wrong regularly on alien cultures he more often than not can’t fully understand at first contact
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Do you not know what the Green Lantern Corps is or are you just trolling? If you’re not trolling, you’re going to need to step up your game. And if you are trolling, you’re going to need to step up your game. Present me with something better and I’ll consider responding.
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GLC’s MO apparently is “don’t do coups on your homeworld, just on other planets”.
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Anonymous
You don't get to rule planets as a GL you low iq moron.
3 months ago
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You don't get to rule third world countries as a CIA operative.
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You're missing other anon's point and not thinking about what you're writing. It doesn't make any sense that GLs can take whatever actions they feel like on other planets, including overthrowing their governments, but not on their own homeworlds. Why do GLs get to be gods everywhere but their own homes? What gives the GLC the right to be the universe police other than they have the power to impose their will on everyone and no one can stop them? GLs overthrow governments all the time, so why not topple oppressive governments on Earth. Hal doesn't have to replace them with ruling himself, but he could single-handedly shut down prison camps, free child soldiers, end secret police, etc in a second if he wanted to.
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Reminder most of that is pushed by Amanda Waller s black woman.
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>HELP GREEN LANTERN THERE'S A DICTATORSHIP ON AN ALIEN PLANET A TRILLION LIGHT YEARS AWAY >Never fear, I will immediately go there and overthrow the dictatorship to free the people. >HELP GREEN LANTERN I'M NORTH KOREAN AND MY FAMILY WAS JUST TAKEN TO A PRISON CAMP TO BE TORTURED TO DEATH >Damn, sorry, wish I could help.
People are pretending this makes any sense at all.
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And those same governments get toppled without any help from fictional flying men.
Imagine that.
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So do criminals so why does Hal bother to stop bank robbers?
Humans are tribalism by nature. Racism is simply one of the easier avenues to represent that. Black people in America are shown to abuse power for in-group preferences just as much as whites.
Hal would only be like Sinestro if he took over Earth. And again, Hal trying to fix the universe didn’t turn out so well. You think Hal is a hypocrite but somehow think he has the answers to fix Earth, that doesn’t make any sense. It’s like you’re upset Hal won’t take over because you want to lick his boots.
Hal’s my favorite Green Lantern and even I would never put him in charge of anything, let alone fixing social problems. He can lead a team to fight villains but what insights would he have to fix society? The last time he tried to fix the universe it didn’t go so well.
The ideal response to this panel would be for John Stewart to step in, defend Hal, and call out the old man by telling him that black people don't need someone else's help - they need to get over their collective victim complex, fix their toxic racial culture and start helping themselves. The old man will most likely make some kind of half-assed, dismissive comment at this - probably along the lines of "easy to say while you're wearing a magic ring" while accusing John of being an Uncle Tom, at which point Hal would step up and return the favor to his brother-in-arms by pointing out to the old man that the ring picked John, not him, and for reasons that're now obvious to him.
And then he and Hal fly off to save another planet together while giving each other a giant green fist-bump.
Well, yeah. Why would this guy give a frick if the Xaxions on Maldor IX are fighting the Belorians from Tarboc VI a billion light years away. He's got his problems on Earth, where the frick is Hal? You probably b***h and whine about the US spending money and people on foreign shit while neglecting its own citizens.
Tell that to John. Hal has no reason to be kind to a bunch if whinny c**ts like tha blacks. You homosexual complain about everything and still act like criminals.
Frick you.
We've had this discussion before.
The Green Lantern Corps only works as a concept because it works off of the pulp sci-fi idea that every alien race is a hegemonic monoculture. If Earth was like the rest of the planets shown in GLC, Hal would just have to punch Kluklux the Oppressor and all the white humans would become friends with the brown humans. But real life isn't like that. Hell; technically speaking, Hal would be the leader of Earth's superheroes because he's technically the representation of Galactic Law and Order.
This only shows the disconnect between reality and fiction. Solving orange people's problem can be written as easy, but real race issues are not so simple as a basic comic book.
>be a member of a multiethnic, multiracial force that protects countless planets across the universe >one cuck Batgay thinks it’s a great idea to never bring that up and have you doing street level shit like some bum
Denny O’Neil is an absolute moron.
O’Neil is responsible for Batman comics taking themselves too seriously. Plus GL/GA absolutely sucks. The only who talk highly about it are lefties who see it as comics finally growing up.
SO, realistically, what could hal do to end racism in the united states? (He cant take over the government with force or do anything that would make him a dictator)
>Whatever the specific chain of events, Schwartz assigned both men to the ailing series and awaited the results. O’Neil mulled the title character over and came to a realization about his essence. “My take on Green Lantern was, he was a kind of cop,” he recalls. “He was, in his own way, an Establishment character. I mean, he wore a uniform, he did what he was told, he answered to bosses.” But in order to explore that idea, “I needed somebody to take the opposite point of view,” he says.
Never let a Batgay write GL comics.
Nobody cared about 'wokeness' until second term Obama
Tbh I find O'Neil's "woke" stuff pretty hilarious by today's standards.
Well duh. It's not subtle at all because these are literally 70s PSAs.
You are literally moronic.
You are literally on point. fr fr.
Denny O'Neil never wrote good comics at all
If this was boondocks episode with john stewart saying the same as your post, the morons would be praising it because it is literally what McGruder thinks of the black community in general, a bunch of self hating Uncle Ruckus and rileys.
>whole run is Ollie lambasting Hal for not being a communist
Why is O’Neil such a cuck?
Because Boomer liberals are some of the most stunning hypocrites this world has ever produced.
yeah blacks rioting for 2 decades was fine, no one cared
Didn’t an artist due a response to this scene where GL mentions how many times he’s saved the planet, where this man lives? I can’t recall who did it or where to find it, but I remember it being posted somewhere back in the day.
The ONE black person in DC’s office at the time hated this story, he pointed out to the writers/artists that Hal saved the planet a million times and this speech makes the old black guy look like a hypocrite and Hal feel guilty for nothing. All around it was just fricken awkward.
>Hal did X so he doesn’t have to care about anything else!
So Hal is a lazy butthole who purposefully chooses to ignore other problems despite having the power to do something about it. Ie he’s a shit hero who only to shot when it happens to endanger his home. Typical conservative.
Even if he did, he'd still come under fire for portraying the white savior saving the oppressed ethnic minorities.
Yep, a lose/lose situation.
well-meaning but clumsy inspirational issue-focused writing in the 70s is not the same thing as the systematic disenfranchisement, deplatforming, and general race to the bottom to see who deserves the most reparations that we have today. at least the 70s was TRYING. and you could say whatever the frick you wanted, and people could say what they wanted right back.
What’s odd is that Superman in the Golden Age was tackling social problems. It’s almost like comics went the opposite way post-Golden Age. Maybe it was related to WW2 ending.
The frick does he want Hal to do?
Take over the planet apparently. I’m pretty sure the last thing Hal would want is to be in charge of how other people live, that’s completely contrary to his character. Even back then he was never supposed to be an authority figure, given how he drifted from job to job. I think he was written that way more to facilitate the story than anything else.
That being said, I still enjoy this series. Almost has an Easy Rider vibe to it, even if Hal in his previous characterization would probably be more similar to Ollie than not. Not politically, I’m talking more in terms of attitude.
Hal’s entirely willing to overthrow governments when he doesn’t like it, like when he deposed Sinestro’s dictatorship, but turns a blind eye to his own home world’s deep racist and prejudices and oppression of minorities. He could do more. He could think about it. Spend his time better. But he doesn’t because Hal’s an idiot.
>man who uses a ring to make giant green hammers and shit will solve racism
Yes
Do you want Hal to frick you in the ass, anon? Because you’re giving off the vibe that you want Hal to be your dom daddy and presumably pleasure you with green sex toy constructs.
>Do you want Hal to frick you in the ass, anon
Maybe I do. If that ends the racism, I can sacrifice my ass to the Hal
That’s the kind of thinking that turns you into Sinestro. And even he didn’t succeed at “fixing” Korugar.
Hal had no qualms overthrowing Sinestro. Didn’t even blink.
Sinestro was using his power ring to subjugate a planet.
Oppressive governments on Earth use weapons to do the same.
Hal is an agent of the GLC, you don’t get to pick and choose which governments are legitimate for your own home planet, that would result in Hal himself deciding what’s right and wrong for his people, without their input. Sinestro was using a power ring and abusing his authority as an officer of Corps, which is why he was removed.
>you don’t get to pick and choose which governments are legitimate for your own home planet
Oh I see but you get the freedom to do it on other planets and imposing his sense of right and wrong regularly on alien cultures he more often than not can’t fully understand at first contact
Do you not know what the Green Lantern Corps is or are you just trolling? If you’re not trolling, you’re going to need to step up your game. And if you are trolling, you’re going to need to step up your game. Present me with something better and I’ll consider responding.
GLC’s MO apparently is “don’t do coups on your homeworld, just on other planets”.
You don't get to rule planets as a GL you low iq moron.
You don't get to rule third world countries as a CIA operative.
You're missing other anon's point and not thinking about what you're writing. It doesn't make any sense that GLs can take whatever actions they feel like on other planets, including overthrowing their governments, but not on their own homeworlds. Why do GLs get to be gods everywhere but their own homes? What gives the GLC the right to be the universe police other than they have the power to impose their will on everyone and no one can stop them? GLs overthrow governments all the time, so why not topple oppressive governments on Earth. Hal doesn't have to replace them with ruling himself, but he could single-handedly shut down prison camps, free child soldiers, end secret police, etc in a second if he wanted to.
Reminder most of that is pushed by Amanda Waller s black woman.
>HELP GREEN LANTERN THERE'S A DICTATORSHIP ON AN ALIEN PLANET A TRILLION LIGHT YEARS AWAY
>Never fear, I will immediately go there and overthrow the dictatorship to free the people.
>HELP GREEN LANTERN I'M NORTH KOREAN AND MY FAMILY WAS JUST TAKEN TO A PRISON CAMP TO BE TORTURED TO DEATH
>Damn, sorry, wish I could help.
People are pretending this makes any sense at all.
And those same governments get toppled without any help from fictional flying men.
Imagine that.
So do criminals so why does Hal bother to stop bank robbers?
Humans are tribalism by nature. Racism is simply one of the easier avenues to represent that. Black people in America are shown to abuse power for in-group preferences just as much as whites.
>Hal needs to tackle racism, by becoming Sinestro.
He already is Sinestro by your logic. The point was Hal is a hypocrite about how he enforces “justice”
Hal would only be like Sinestro if he took over Earth. And again, Hal trying to fix the universe didn’t turn out so well. You think Hal is a hypocrite but somehow think he has the answers to fix Earth, that doesn’t make any sense. It’s like you’re upset Hal won’t take over because you want to lick his boots.
Blacks have always been selfish whiners that's true.
DC is so fricking cringy.
For sure.
Unironically true.
To these frickers everything is hand me down.
Hal’s my favorite Green Lantern and even I would never put him in charge of anything, let alone fixing social problems. He can lead a team to fight villains but what insights would he have to fix society? The last time he tried to fix the universe it didn’t go so well.
The ideal response to this panel would be for John Stewart to step in, defend Hal, and call out the old man by telling him that black people don't need someone else's help - they need to get over their collective victim complex, fix their toxic racial culture and start helping themselves. The old man will most likely make some kind of half-assed, dismissive comment at this - probably along the lines of "easy to say while you're wearing a magic ring" while accusing John of being an Uncle Tom, at which point Hal would step up and return the favor to his brother-in-arms by pointing out to the old man that the ring picked John, not him, and for reasons that're now obvious to him.
And then he and Hal fly off to save another planet together while giving each other a giant green fist-bump.
>John needs to be a conservative uncle tom to defend his white co-worker while together ganging up and shitting on a disfranchised black guy
better than a liberal cuckold like yourself.
Uncle Tom was a hero in the book y’know.
>John needs to be a conservative uncle tom to defend his white co-worker while together ganging up and shitting on a disfranchised black guy
Cool. Give the old man a magic power ring, then.
He could help by externinating those stink skins.
He is not obliged to do anything for blacks. It’s not like a Black would do anything positive for any white person.
>literally
OP lives in 1983
And the rest in a alternative future, where things aren't like Cinemaphileers want
what does he expect green lantern to do? Hal is space police, the only thing he can do for blacks is arrest them.
>it's 2024 and black people are still a thing and they're still salty about being black
Hal it's been decades, why won't you do something about this?
what an ugly mofo
>entire universe under constant conflict
>blacks: ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEEEEEE
Well, yeah. Why would this guy give a frick if the Xaxions on Maldor IX are fighting the Belorians from Tarboc VI a billion light years away. He's got his problems on Earth, where the frick is Hal? You probably b***h and whine about the US spending money and people on foreign shit while neglecting its own citizens.
Why can't the other 100+ heroes cover for Hal on Earth?
i hate this place
You hate being exposed to correct opinions? Why?
Tell that to John. Hal has no reason to be kind to a bunch if whinny c**ts like tha blacks. You homosexual complain about everything and still act like criminals.
Frick you.
My taxes don't go towards the Green Lantern Corp
>Black america marching for Hamas
>Law and order SVU makes an anti-BLM episode
Have fun having the israelites drop you as the pet class.
We've had this discussion before.
The Green Lantern Corps only works as a concept because it works off of the pulp sci-fi idea that every alien race is a hegemonic monoculture. If Earth was like the rest of the planets shown in GLC, Hal would just have to punch Kluklux the Oppressor and all the white humans would become friends with the brown humans. But real life isn't like that. Hell; technically speaking, Hal would be the leader of Earth's superheroes because he's technically the representation of Galactic Law and Order.
Can superheroes deal with social issues without being cringe?
They can't.
The minute a superhero touches a social issue, they have to immediately be weighed down by how they can do nothing about it.
This only shows the disconnect between reality and fiction. Solving orange people's problem can be written as easy, but real race issues are not so simple as a basic comic book.
>be a member of a multiethnic, multiracial force that protects countless planets across the universe
>one cuck Batgay thinks it’s a great idea to never bring that up and have you doing street level shit like some bum
Denny O’Neil is an absolute moron.
>Cinemaphile turning on O'Neil
It has to do with race and something vaguely left-leaning. Of course Cinemaphile's going to turn on it.
O’Neil is responsible for Batman comics taking themselves too seriously. Plus GL/GA absolutely sucks. The only who talk highly about it are lefties who see it as comics finally growing up.
>responsible for Batman comics taking themselves too seriously
So his handiwork gave us the best Batman stories. How is this bad?
>responsible for Knightfall, ADITF, TKJ and letting No Man’s Land happen
“No!”
>responsible for TDKR, Year One, TKJ, AA: ASHOSE, The Cult, Dark Knight, Dark City, Legends of the Dark Knight, amd Grant/Breyfogle's run
Yes! YES!
>You have the power to change things for yourself, my friend. I fight for those who do not.
You are right. Nothing have changed: they are still a bunch of subversive israelites.
Shut up homie, Green Lantern was protecting earth on a daily basis. One should be grateful
SO, realistically, what could hal do to end racism in the united states? (He cant take over the government with force or do anything that would make him a dictator)
Hal would have to use mind control powers to make everyone get along. In other words, he'd have to become a dictator.
>Whatever the specific chain of events, Schwartz assigned both men to the ailing series and awaited the results. O’Neil mulled the title character over and came to a realization about his essence. “My take on Green Lantern was, he was a kind of cop,” he recalls. “He was, in his own way, an Establishment character. I mean, he wore a uniform, he did what he was told, he answered to bosses.” But in order to explore that idea, “I needed somebody to take the opposite point of view,” he says.
Never let a Batgay write GL comics.