>It's a boring episode where nothing happens for 10 whole minutes
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>it's a subversive episode where foundation shaking changes happen to satisfy the boarders' trauma that derail the whole series forever
That's not what happened in that episode.
Huh. I legit feel bad for Pen Ward now
lol so they just shat on pen's original idea
Kill Sugar when you get the chance.
>”NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY HECKIN EPIC ORIGINAL IDEAAAAA, FINN WAS TOTALLY SUPPOSED TO BE CHAD THUNDERwiener AND GET A HAREM AND IM NOT EXTRAPOLATING THINS BASED ON MY OWN PROJECTIONS AND HEADCANONS NOOOOOOOOO COLLABORATION BAD, THIS WAS SABOTAGE AND PENN ABSOLUTELY DID NOT OKAY IT AND HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT DESPITE BEING IN A POSITION TO VETO IT IF HE WANTED TO, AAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!”
>but actually Becky getting her projections and headcanons into the show is okay
Yes, it is. Otherwise Penn would have vetoed that.
Source?
Being the fricking showrunner at the time and being credited as “story”, which meant he was part of the writing process. What, you think Muto and Becky just snuck an entire episode past their boss, got backgrounds, finished animation and promotions all done behind his back?
You really really don't understand how people work.
Not an argument
>”B-But what it-“
They’d have to keep doing it for all the other episodes onward for the rest of the 6 or so seasons after this one as it got more and more blatant. At that point, you just have to realize Penn either did not care or was actively okay with it.
Sneed
Pen left in S5, after which the Bubbline episodes started ramping up
He left the showrunner position and still helped write a bunch of those episodes, otherwise he wouldn’t be credited as “story by” on stuff like Varmints
>projecting
I accept your concession.
>Penn either did not care
Yeah definitely this.
Hard to find care after your child has been raped and abused beyond recognition.
>What, you think Muto and Becky just snuck an entire episode past their boss, got backgrounds, finished animation and promotions all done behind his back?
No but they could've snuck the intentions behind the episode into the show without disclosing them to Muto
Unironically yes. Seethe, Mutotard.
I thought it was a brilliant backstory. The problem was putting them back together in season 7, when Bubblegum is much too sociopathic to ever truly love another person.
I blame ward for letting it happen
I don't know how they made such a fricking bad episode it's legitimately fricking awful and no one can sing.
It was about Finn being a mediator but "lesbians" had to overshadow the message
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See:
Could they try to hire actual singers and musicians for songs?
No amount of singing prowess can fix that fricking mess of a song.
Phineas and Ferb but awful
>Episode is all about the importance of art being a vessel for one's real experience
>Contains a lesbian romance
>...
>Rebecca Sugar is in a heterosexual relationship and is known for shipping same-sex characters for her own amusement
Really makes you think...
Oh no
>Rebecca Sugar
>Skip
wont waste my time watching leftoid propaganda
Shut up chud
Are there any shows where the ship we want wins?
So there's no shows where the ship we want wins?
It's embarrassing how bad of a showrunner Ward was to the point his show completely changed character and he just let it happen.
Yeah he let himself get ran over
A female LGBT non-binary israeli storyboarder in an interracial relationship walks up to you and asks you to put lesbians in your show, do you
>say no and risk being cancelled and becoming the guy who refused representation when requested by the most oppressed person on the planet
>say yes and keep your life and reputation
Say no if you really gave a shit because you are her boss, and no spin campaign in the world would have helped her in this theoretical fantasy.
Remember, this episode was before gay marriage was even legalized, there would be no grounds to argue representation and the structure for cancelling on social media didn’t exist/was in its infancy. I’m sorry to say this, but I just think Pendleton Ward was simply okay with the gays and not at all /yourguy/.
Where's the "stab the untermenschen to death and start a race war" option?
Why do you care so much