>it's another medieval europe is grey and miserable episode
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Wasn't because dyes were really expensive back then?
i liked it because it was realistic aside from the grey filter you bring up
>it was realistic
Lol, they just HAD to make one of the historically lauded embodiments of white chivalry into a selfish prick who couldn't make his wife cum
yes it was subversive but a good subversion.
mainly against the idea of angelic women which christcucks love to LARP about being a thing.
women are not loyal princesses to be put on pedestals and this movie exemplifies it (it's a cuckold plot). of course you root for the protagonist because it's an underdog story but i understand why it happened, the protagonist was a whiny loser and the antagonist was a dark triad.
the reason beta white males like asian women is not because they are different and superior, they were molded into being that way by their authoritarian government.
the reason arab women are baby factories is not because they are different and superior, they were molded into being that way by their authoritarian religion.
women must be controlled, tamed, dominated, etc for them to be happy. protagonist was a naive absent minded romantic that put her on a pedestal and was surprised she wasnt some loyal princess content with his shit situation.
>protagonist was a naive absent minded romantic that put her on a pedestal
Lol, he doesn't even give a shit about anything to do with her except his status and her dowry land. The only reason he gives a shit about her rape aside from said "status" thing is because it allows him to legally fight his hated rival to the death, the way he reacts, he would likely have accused her of lying about it otherwise.
ridley "senile" scott
>it was realistic
it was a PS1 cinematic
the Rashomon type narrative was repetitive and tedious
>markets as a war movie
>LOLNO just a #metoo story
1300s europe was horrible
first 1/3 was good
Is it like Rashomon? Heard that it presents the woman as the poor victim and makes the POV of the other two characters irrelevant as a result so I haven't seen it.
It’s structured like Rashomon in that it portrays events from multiple perspectives, but it misses the point by making it obvious who wrong even from the bad guy’s perspective.
I thought it was pretty funny that even in his perspective it's still obviously rape, Ridley wouldn't even touch the possibility she was lying about it from any perspective except her husband's initial reaction.
Pretty much what it does, it presents both male perspectives unlikably. The first is alright until the combination of the other two makes it look like delusional lies. The whole subplot about her husband being unable to make her cum, while she cums during the rape, is especially unnecessary. It's even worse when you consider Jean de Carrouges is a historical frech folk hero.
>historical frech folk hero
>Ridley Scott
>Born (age 85) South Shields, England
Eternal anglo strikes again.
Yes but it ends in typical western fashion with a villain vs hero. It dilutes the story. The director probably thought it wouldn't be popular otherwise. I didn't like the american accents but i liked the fight.
By the time it gets to the fight at the end, it's just villain vs different villain.
No, the villain is very well defined. They make it very clear who the villain is. They demonise him by showing how prosmiscuous he is, how disloyal he is to his friend, first he takes his captaincy position, then his land and then his woman. Its typical western film script that leaves little to think and more to feel. Its a poor imitation of rashomon. Meanwhile the hero gets a mention at the ending while the villain is quickly forgotten after the fight.
>the villain is very well defined.
Except for the whole part where he's portrayed even in his wife's perspective as an arrogant prick who doesn't give a shit about her, or anything but his own pride, and is a joke. ffs even when he's defending her in a duel to the death, she still henpecks him about how he doesn't give a shit whether she lives or dies as a result, only about him fighting his rival.
That's not villainous compared to what the other is portrayed as doing. Not caring about your wife was a common trope back then Ridley scott obviously included it as a way to make modern people interested, inserting feminist tropes in medieval films is a popular thing today even though its historically inaccurate. Taking your friend's position, his land and his wife however, remains universally villainous. This is not le grey moral ambiguity kind of film that you are trying to argue for.
>That's not villainous compared to what the other is portrayed as doing.
It certainly isn't "chivalrous", it's a subversion of a historical folk hero.
>inserting feminist tropes in medieval films is a popular thing today even though its historically inaccurate.
As a result it makes the female perspective the "only one that's telling the truth", ruining whatever the film is trying to do with bullshit modern allegory (again) (many such cases).
Not necessarily because he still takes his land and position and is still portrayed as a promiscuous social climber. It doesn't matter whether she is telling the truth or not. Taking a man's wife is unacceptable whether its rape or extramarital affair is irrelevant.
>hero vs villian
Fricking how? The whole point of the movie was how no one needs to act villainous and someone can still be victimized. Le Gris genuinely thought she wanted him.
Read the reply above you.
Medieval Europe was colorful, the idea of it being dark and grey seems like Puritan revisionism.
the Last Duel as a movie was dumb as frick and basically a shitty feminist Rashomon rip off.
it's a ugly movie where every character is wholly unlikable. the villain just happens to be the most wretched of the lot. the movie shouldn't have been longer than 61 minutes. it still would have been boring but at least watchable.