It's been 20 years, is this really the last Christmas "classic" in America's movie canon? Why has no other movie since cemented itself in pop culture?
It's been 20 years, is this really the last Christmas "classic" in America's movie canon?
It's been 20 years, is this really the last Christmas "classic" in America's movie canon? Why has no other movie since cemented itself in pop culture?
Frick off that movie sucks. Only good part is dinklage.
The only good part of this movie is act 1.
Act 2 falls of hard and Act 3 goes over the cliff.
Opposite for me. I always skip act 1 and go straight to New York. And then i kind of tune out the final act with Santa. I just want cozy New York in Christmas adventures. Same reason I watch Home Alone 2
You prefer Christmas movies in ugly ass New York? Uh
Yes. New York at Christmas is peak cozy
Except if you’re homeless
Frick homeless people get off my side walk
Christmas movies focus primarily on one of or both
>family
>religion
The media and their ilk want to destroy both.
I don't know about religion, but what makes you think that the media wants to destroy families? Unless you're claiming that depicting gay people is anti-family because reasons.
>because reasons
Biology seems like a valid reason, but of course I don't expect any arguments in good faith from homosexuals.
>what makes you think that the media wants to destroy families
By having eyes and paying attention. It isn't just about gays, which is definitely part of it. It's the media wanting to destroy the traditional family unit. Depicting happy families where the parents are married and don't hate each other is promoting nasty conservatism.
>Depicting happy families where the parents are married and don't hate each other is promoting nasty conservatism.
I think it's the opposite actually. Old movies and TV shows would have married couples bicker and fight all the time. "Wife bad" was the pinnacle of boomer humor.
>Depicting happy families where the parents are married and don't hate each other is promoting nasty conservatism.
no its just fricking BORING
>wahh everything needs to cater to ME and my BASED TRADITIONAL VIEWS! i cant view any content that deviates or challenges my belief!!
a fun christmas movie for kids is a weird place to take this position. why does everything have to be political for you midwit gays
Because DA JOOS are using Hollywood to destroy WHITE MEN by using SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES powered by SATANIC MAGIC to turn WOMEN into prostituteS. Just ask Q! Thankfully Trump will lead the storm to save us from their perfidious influence so we can all have trad wives. He is the one man we can trust!
>no one is trying to replace you
>*looks at border crisis*
>well maybe we are, but that's a good thing
Ask your supervisor for more training.
Nice try, satan.
Look who wrote it and produced it
>becuase reasons
back you go
This movie is shit. I love will Ferrell I’m almost any other mother but Elf is unwatchable garbage through and through. Muppet Christmas Carol, jingle all the way, the Santa clause, and home alone are the last Christmas ‘classics’.
>grown man screams for 2 hours straight
I will never understand the appeal of this
Klaus is a classic. Really sad that there was a 16-year period with no classic Christmas movies though.
I agree that Klaus is a great movie, but it hasn't really cemented itself in culture like older Christmas movies did, so it can't really be considered a classic. Most people probably don't even know it exists.
Fricking Netflix needs to pimp this movie out so more people see it outside of Netflix. Klaus is easily the best Christmas movie made this decade.
I fricking hate this movie
What's wrong with it? I see glowing reviews here a lot.
I particularly hate how it tries to explain and rationalize all of the magical elements of the Santa legend to be normal stuff or exaggerated. Santa flies in his sleigh? He went off a ramp and the kids thought he was flying. I also detest how this film follows the generic “liar revealed” plot line that movies such as sing follow. You have a wily protagonist who manipulates his way to success, but coincidentally elevates and inspires everybody around him. There comes a point where it is revealed he was wily and was in it for himself. Oftentimes they will have changed by this point in the film. It feels cheap and generic. If this movie were animated in any other way it would not receive the praise that it does. It looks pretty and that’s it.
On the wall street journal podcast an effete
millennial holiday correspondent (israeli of course) compared elf to its a wonderful life the frank capra movie that features guardian angels and prayer and concluded elf was his favored holiday film.
I watched Klaus today for the first time. I'm surprised that wasn't a bigger hit. It's an excellent movie that has great animation and is very clever with the origins of Santa.
>what if the real santa was le mailman
>World where Santa Claus is real and delivers presents
>Adults don't believe in Santa
Even as a kid, this always annoyed me.
It wasn't about believing in Santa, it was about "Christmas spirit"
Shit been done better and less annoying. Original Miracle on 34th Street
This movie is not a classic. It's trite shit with Will Ferrell acting as he does in every single boring fricking movie he's in.
The movie is shit. Only reason why it’s remember is because it steals classic shit from the Ranking-Bass Christmas classics like Rudolph. So nostalgia gays love it. You take that out, and the movie is pure ass
The best thing about the movie is Zoe in the pink elf outfit at the end.
She's underrated as a dumb blonde.
God damn the things I would eat outta her ass, list is endless
if you want to see something crazy
think back to when you noticed the world starting to really accelerate downhill.
now google when zoe went blonde to brunette
Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever was pure Aubrey Plaza kino
Only good Christian Will Ferrell movie is Daddy’s Home 2 and that’s because of Mel and John Lithgow
>jelf
every single time
Because nobody knows how to create something new without being cynical, and without copying something old. A lot of more recent Christmas movies try way to hard to put an unnecessary spin on Christmas related things. There's nothing genuine about any of it.
>There's nothing genuine about any of it.
This. Good filmmaking comes from being willing to express oneself, and doubly so for anything Christmas-related. There’s a reason that the Peanuts Christmas special still holds up today while nobody gives a shit about Christmas films made recently, it’s because one is genuine and the other is a cynical corporate product.
I'd like to see a distribution of classic Christmas movies vs the years they came out. I suspect the actual rate isn't changing, you're just first introduced to 80 years' worth at once so once you catch up to the present they seem slow.
But there was a ten year period where we got Die Hard, Home Alone, Home Alone 2, Christmas Vacation, Prancer, and Jingle All The Way.
There's been nothing in the past ten years to compete with any of those.
Elf is a huge pleb filter.
>Human raised by elves
>elves are all regular ass dudes who talk normally
>grown will Ferrell is a moronic manchild with the brain of a 4 year old who acts in no way like any of the elves we are shown
Was he born moronic?
This movie is terrible who was even the target audience here
The last 15-20 years of American cultural development has basically been a black hole. Avatar or maybe one of the Deathly Hallows films was the last time I remember society at large actually being excited for something, and the latter wasn’t even American.
Actually, I change my mind. I would say it’s mostly been the last 10-15 years. Mid-00’s still had some great films like Dead Man’s Chest.
It’s still playing in theaters every Christmas. All I remember is seeing the scene where he drinks a feel 2 liter of coke
>Why has no other movie since cemented itself in pop culture?
There is an over-abundance of streaming content.
Long gone are the days of rewatching a DVD you own when there's nothing else to watch.
No-one retains anything any more, it'sjust onto the next piece of content.
Internet meme culture has made pop-culture irrelevant among younger audiences.
Unless a particular reference has been memefied, no one is quoting movies any more.
Tfw we will never have a movie cement itself in pop culture like those of the '00s and before
Barbie
Astroturfed
Sucks. Just found an audience with pink haired millenials
I want a Christmas movie where they show Santa slapping Arius in the face
The Polar Express, The grinch, Christmas Vacation (chevy chase), that Santa movie with Tim Allen, A Christmas Story, there's plenty
Polar Express is soulless trash. It's a shitty disaster movie with moronic looking children
I'm pretty sure most of those came out before Elf.
>It's been 20 years, is this really the last Christmas "classic" in America's movie canon?
They very rarely get added to the cannon. Prior to Elf what's the next most recent movie that can be described as a holiday classic? You have to go back to like the 60's with things like the Rankin and Bass stop motion animated movies, or things like The Grinch. Long lasting classic movies are hard to come by
Please stop considering elf a classic. It's so mediocre. Don't taint people's minds.
>Prior to Elf what's the next most recent movie that can be described as a holiday classic
A Nightmare Before Christmas
Live Action Grinch is included as a classic for sure.
Frick no. I never realized how bizarre that movie was. Weirdo feeding fetish in the middle of the movie for no reason and the one character being horny af for the grinch
It's kino. You're insane.
Nah it’s shit. Everyone knows it’s shit. You just grew up with it so you don’t know any better
Incorrect. It's a cult classic Christmas movie.
No
Yes.
Love James Caan in it. Only reason to ever watch the movie as an adult. He’s so funny in that role
I love how you can hear the impotent seethe from euros whenever they say america, even through text