Its complicated. It depends on your tv set up. There was a big conversation in the last thread about current home televisions and the way they process digital images.
The gist of it is you need a good tv to really appreciate the movie. And if your television is shit the movie can look like shit and even make the acting look like shit. It's complicated and seems a bit bonkers but its true. It watched this movie twice on two different tv's.
Yeah no shit. TVs will always look different from each other if not calibrated perfectly, and even then they will differ depending on whether they're LCD, OLED or whatever.
It's just where they copied the styles for the characters.
The movie is >farm gets attacked >we need rebels to helps us defend >cantina scene to get guy to get more guys >mindless talk inbetween locations >scene with beastmaster who's skills never come up again (he's a meleegay against people with automatic laser rifles and spaceships) >elevator conversation with co-worker tier dialogue to next planet >scene with samurai lady who's skills never come up again (she's a meleegay against people with automatic laser rifles and spaceships) >melodramatic dialogue while going to next planet >scene with dirty general getting a bath >i don't even know what skills he has, at least he shoots a gun >more melodramatic dialogue while, plot twist, the guy comes to them this time >they still had to go to another planet first though >rebels finally join the movie >but only like 4 of them >traitor indirectly tells protagonist he's gonna betray them >next scene he does exactly that >big end fight with boss >boss dies but so do 3 out of the 4 rebels >lets go back to the farm I guess >oh we kept using the robot with that headdress in all our promotional material >yeah, there he is in a field holding a stick for 10 seconds >fin
I really don't know why we needed so many slow-mo shots of the guy taming the bird if they're just gonna abandon it there. None of this would really matter if the action scenes weren't so mindnumbingly dull. Cause when they stop fighting they start talking and that's even worse.
>>i don't even know what skills he has, at least he shoots a gun
Apparently he's a super genius general but we never see him do anything related to strategy or tactics, either because the other character introductions took way too long or they're saving it for the next film. Either way, shit characterization.
>I have never seen anything Wachowskis related outside The Matrix trilogy (I like them all). Should I give this a try?
Hell yes absofricking-lutely. Outside of some slightly cringe looking bounty hunters Jupiter Ascending is a phenominal looking movie that is easily better than 90 percent of the Disney dominated crap we get thise days in theaters.
Some of the visuals were just too much for my eyes. Similar to Marvel, it was one or two actors and computer cartoon everything else. I will say the building at the beginning was pretty great looking, though. Mila's dresses were incredible. And that page was hilarious. But overall, it was underwhelming.
I like the Terry Gilliam moments at the space DMV. Lots of things to like about the movie. It might have been overlooked because it was middle of the pack when it came out. But its definitely better than most of the stuff coming out today.
Yeah, I'll give it that. I couldn't remember Terry's name, but yeah, the page. I really enjoyed that sequence. It felt authentic, too.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Terry Gilliam wasn't the name of the guy at the space DMV. Terry Gilliam is the creator of movies like Time Bandits and Baron Munchausen. The space DMV reminded me of one of those types of movies.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Oh. Well, yeah, everything I said, except not Terry.
This is 1000% a real question. Are you gay, trans, or super into pegging?
It's a weird film in that to a lot of people it really sucks, but if you fall into the aforementioned categories it hits close enough to enough fetishes that it elevates the film in all the right ways to make it fricking awesome. If you're like a normal nerd, you'll probably hate it. If you're trans though this shit will hit like fricking heroin.
Absolute fucing lies. Literally nothing pozzed about the movie. The main hero is a super badass straight white guy. There's an honest to goodness damsel in distress that he has to rescue. No girlboss moments because she's a chick. She's a normal chick that can't fight and has to get rescued by the hero.
Also the movie looks great and the orchestral score is GOD TIER.
The "main character" is literally Mila Kunis, a boring maid that finds out she's secretly a magic space princess. Her "knight", Channing Tatum is a literal space elf with pointy ears that has, and I wish I was joking, "extreme" anti-gravity rollerblades and is sworn to serve Mila Kunis. At it's core it's a YA teen romance like Twilight draped in scifi splendor. Hence: if you're gay, trans, or super into pegging it's awesome. Otherwise it's a weird really cringey mess.
>or super into pegging
Anon, do you want to tell us something? Confess, maybe?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah. If you fricking LOVE Jupiter Ascending and you're not gay or trans then give pegging a try because you'll probably fricking love it. Jupiter Ascending is 100% an assplay barometer.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That's oddly specific, anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Cinemaphile is a place where people can come out of the closet without actually coming out in a meaningful way, anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Look, Jupiter Ascending is a movie that two 50 year old troony's both agreed was their dream project, an realization of their perfect fantasy. As such, there's genderbending stuff all over the film. The costume design often skews queer, the characters are designed in ways that challenge gender norms while embracing old scifi/fantasy character tropes and stereotypes. The "cool" female characters share that particular female-centric male-gaze feminism that verges on fetishization (Kunis is literally the queen bee) while the male characters are either sexless background noise or genderqueer frickbois. Redmane as the feminine power bottom and Tatum as the clubboi masculine restrained sub top. The concept of Kunis toiling away as a "lowly" maid while secretly being a pureblood princess speaks to the Disney princess fantasy of genderqueer/gender confused men who can only imagine femininity as an outsider looking in.
It's pure troony kino. There's nothing at all wrong with it, but it won't be for everyone.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You know way too much about those freakish subcultures.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I've fricked a lot of trannies, anon. They literally LOVE that shit.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Stop fricking trannies, please. It's disgusting. Pee pee poo poo aids shit. You're failing in your function as a man. You should reconcile them with their masculinity (like a father would), not stick your dick in their stinky buttholes.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Jesus Christ, anon. Stop being such a fricking homosexual. If a hole looks good, frick it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Jesus Christ
Funny how you accidently gave the perfect reason not to stick your genitalia into unfit orifices. It's a matter of life and death, anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Jesus liked to hang out with prostitutes and lowlife's and he could turn water into wine. He would absolutely be down with slammin' troony ass.
5 months ago
Anonymous
He was in the company of such people so that they would turn their lives around. And blasphemy comes at a high cost.
The roller skates at the end seemed like it was trying to harness the same energy that the end of The Matrix had. And visually, it was similar. But overall, it fell flat.
I wish he was a space elf.
He was a space half-dog, half-man.
5 months ago
Anonymous
My favorite part is they gave him a face prosthetic that was both painful and made it difficult for Channing to say his lines. For a visual effect most people probably didn’t even appreciate. For an A list coheadliner they paid millions to play his role. Proof positive transgenderism is a mental disorder
Unironically a case of soul vs soulless, derivative works that aren't also transformative are shit.
That's the element the AI bros don't understand, they don't get the difference between plagarism and influence
Synder just taking the page layouts and frames from 300 and Watchmen and putting them on screen unchanged was the earliest sign. Empty christian imagery the next. He has a simplistic, underdeveloped viewpoint, there's nothing beyond the image and the replication of images that had previous impact.
Tusken Raiders are literally Fremen. Tatooine is Arakis. Spice is Spice. The Sarlac is a fricking sandworm. The plot of A New Hope is literally a direct copy of The Hidden Fortress. Star Wars itself is derivative. That's just how art works.
has anyone else noticed how the evil rapist nazi empire has literally not ONE SINGLE black guy?
and the only good white main character is an emasculated cuck?
Fantasy movies whether it's LotR or Star Wars or Star Trek inspired is fricked right now. They lost the plot and always want the fantasy to mirror real life which defeats the entire purpose of a fantasy story.
How many times are they gonna keep making this movie over and over?
The real bad guys aren't even white. The white king was slain by mutts he invited to his military and close personal circle. Every general shown other than Noble are some sort of Latino.
The theme the movie is going for, and this will become more apparent in the director's cut, is that expansionism and multiculturalism is a mixed bag because it dilutes the culture and identity of people, creating resentment and strife. The old king was slain by people from off-world that he tried to assimilate and befriend, Kora finds peace in a monocultural village where life is simple and its people have a strong connection to its land, several of the characters are people that lost their home and culture and are aimless.
If you are a Snyderchad with a decent televison setup at home its definitely worth a watch. If you are low test with near life or death opinions about curtain colors and the current price of lube then you might not like it.
This movie was like a re-edited mini-series.
The designs of weapons and mechanics are very mediocre.
There's a cool colosseum, but no gladiator battles.
Honestly, even as a mindless sci-fi action movie, it's boring.
>Netflix cut it!
No they didn't
It's a marketing stunt Snyder agreed to, so people will keep talking about the movie for a year waiting for the Snyder Cut, instead of forgetting it instantly
You seem to be confused about why streaming services finance projects on a basic level.
They do it to capture demographics. They essentially just put in effort to have a show/movie in every possible genre and key demographic to cover all bases, that's how they get people to subscribe. If they don't cover something, they will finance a project that takes care of that. These projects just need to be perfunctory, not actually competent. Essentially they want all bases covered.
This just covers an audience of Snyder fanboys, who also keep advertising this project within their own group and making a "snyder cut" is free publicity and it keeps these fans buzzing about it for free and continuously.
Even now everyone is pretending that the "snyder cut" is going to fix things, so they're going to watch every iteration of this slop and keep blabbing about it too.
>Tarak and Griffon were good.
holy fricking shit taste, that scene was way too long, corny and brought nothing new to the table.
also why the frick should we celebrate the death of the hillbilly when he was a completely non-violent, honorable guy?
oh wait, he was white
>white
He was a israelite. He was a scoundrel using the debt to enslave a honorable prince. The prince was respecting his debt, but the israelite rancher was using to trick a poor man into servitude.
>also why the frick should we celebrate the death of the hillbilly when he was a completely non-violent, honorable guy?
He was a israelite. israelites deserve violent deaths.
where was the slavery? Tarak said he lost a bet and therefore has to work it off and taming an animal is not slavery. hell he didn't even put the restrains back on the griffon.
the only reason they killed was because he looked like a white Trump voter
5 months ago
Anonymous
Tarak was paying a debt because he was a prince from a conquered world. The rancher was just enslaving Tarak thanks to the debt, which Tarak was nobly paying with work as a smith.
5 months ago
Anonymous
There’s nothing Hollywood hates more than fat white guys.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Jew. He was a israelite.
Charlie's character was a israelite. The Rancher was a israelite.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Jesus Christ, there were fricking israelites a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away????????
FRICK, they’re everywhere.
5 months ago
Anonymous
nice try, Mudasir.
this movie is woke shit and you Synder Pajeets can't convince anyone with a brain it is not
5 months ago
Anonymous
>this movie is woke shit
What tipped you off? The POC female MC? The 50,000 other POCs in the cast? That all the white guys are evil? Or the bar full of gays and trannies?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Now you're just being moronic. Most of the cast was white. Every hometown good guy villager was white. Every Imperial was white. half the rebel forces or more were white. The movie was like 90% white on both sides of the conflict. Good and bad. But the seven samurai were poc? omg there are MILLIONS of blacks in my movie? AHHHH Im going IINSAAAANNNE!! its too pozzed!!
5 months ago
Anonymous
Holy frick, are you moronic. Go suck a black wiener. Isn’t that what you usually do Friday nights.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nice reddit spacing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
90% of the cast was white and two of the main party were white guys. You will roll out of bed with your panties in a bunch til the day you die.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>main villain is some homosexual constantly moist and veiny toxic nazi, also has degen sex with pet octopus >main good guy is some gormless cuck just standing around shrugging >leprechaun han solo
... that's it
5 months ago
Anonymous
>main good guy is some gormless cuck just standing around shrugging
harty kek
laughed way harder at this than i should have
5 months ago
Anonymous
I was waiting for his balls to drop at some point during the movie but no, they just retracted fully into his abdomen. Not even sure what the point of him existing is. I guess so that the seven horsepeople of the multiculturalism don't forget what the mission is and go off on some actually fun adventures instead of setting up the cuck session back at the noob zone rpg village.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Not even sure what the point of him existing is.
He's Bilbo. But good looking. Really there are no ugly people in the main cast ruining the movie and no fatties. Which is refreshing. And best of all no gays.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>don't forget what the mission is
that end triggered me so hard
why would anyone, besides the farmer go back to the Shire? they only endanger that village, making sure dozens of innocents will die.
the empire is looking for them, not the farmers
5 months ago
Anonymous
Think of the grain.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>>main villain is some homosexual constantly moist and veiny toxic nazi,
How do you not make that character a white guy? He's a fricking 40k imperial. it would have looked pozzed out of place and moronic if he wasn't a white guy. Also even though he's evil he's still a strong character. Watch it again. The dude is based.
I guess you are mad because Charlie Hunnam turned heel. If he hadn't turned heel would you still be complaining? I bet you would. Because you're mindbroken.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The actor is half israeli by the way.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not mad at all, I'm impressed. Impressed that even a bland work such as this can't escape wokeness.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>100% of the space nazis where white, not even a single Black person or asian >only one single good main character is white and also the weakest of the team, the other white main character is a backstapping rat >every other main character is a Black person or some mystery meat >Black person siblings withe the name BLOODAXE being the rebel leaders and hope of all mankind >Black person general is THE smartest military tactitian ever >meanwhile the white good guy is a farmer
hello rabbi
5 months ago
Anonymous
>100% of the space nazis where white, not even a single Black person or asian
Not true but also the empire isn't the bad guys and only really went to shit when the king was murdered.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>hope of all mankind
Hope of mankind was a white girl from a royal bloodline.
5 months ago
Anonymous
there is literally ONE main character who is white and not evil and he's a literal cuck. >hey Kora, my secret love, the guy who looks like me but better in every way just asked for you. you should go see him. especially today at the night of the sex festival
suck some Black person dick
Unlike the introductions of other characters with explanatory lines, I can really understand his personality through his interactions with the griffon.
You say it's too long, but in fact, the other guys are moving too quickly.
I hate to say it but those troons over at israeliteflix have actually had a good last couple months.
>The Killer >Leave the World Behind >Rebel Moon
I don't know how they did it but they did it. Their shows are still steaming dog ass though. Like that one with the family full of gays and the ghost mother killing everybody. Turned it off i the first 20 minutes it was so pozzed.
Reminder that this movie is actually about Islam and the honorable fight that our brothers from Hamas are striking against the great Serpent that is Israel.
There is an Islamic belief that Isa (Jesus Christ peace be upon him) breathed into a clay bird and with God's permission gave life to the bird. In Rebel Moon a character called Princess Issa is seen giving life to a dead bird. Reference or coincidence?
>dozens of movies and shows already used a dead bird to show a character has reanimation powers >so of course Snyder has to copy even that overused trope
can't spell -ACK without Zack
We truly live in the end times. This is a much weaker version of Riddick, which is already a much weaker version of thing that came before it.
Between this, The Creator and Dunc, there is little substance left in cinema and it's absolutely the right moment for things to make the jump into true AI slop, which this already eerily resembles.
>Ah, if you can’t see that racial engineering is dominating today’s media,
I never said it wasn't because it clearly is. But now you are so mindbroken you are screaming at clouds. The movie is one of the least pozzed things in ages.
>When will the woke madness end?
when we chuds and incels use our basement powers to go protest in front of the Netflix head quarter,
or shoot up a few schools, like usual
It's shockingly stupid and bland.
I can't believe Snyder was trying to hype this up as his passion project.
It's not even campy or shlocky enough to be a fun watch.
Here's a breakdown of the first half hour :
>we are poor but fair peasants toiling to cultivate some grain, look at our completely peaceful life (this goes on for 10 minutes with people only communicating in stock lines), also featuring Corey Stoll who I'm not sure even took the role seriously >there's also some sort of a main guy who is even more of a cuck than James Marsden, if that is even at all possible >evil space nazis show up by just like ... appearing in the sky >everyone gasps and a huge bell is rang as everyone just stands around passively (this goes on for 5+ minutes) >the bad guys show up in some generic smaller space ships and then disembark and walk around (this takes 5+ minutes) >now for the next 15 minutes, the main nazi guy does the "we're your friends" routine that just keeps going on and on and on and on until he eventually of course kills Corey Stoll >then some afrikaaners bully the Hopkins robot for another 10 minutes
Every fricking thing in this movie takes FOREVER. Even simple interactions between people have them slip into some NPC stock dialogue that goes on forever while conveying absolutely nothing that one or two lines couldn't do. Every character is like this.
Evil space nazi soldiers literally speak out loud everything they're doing as they do it "oh look at this hot chick over there that you, the other soldier, likes. what if I raper her right here and now while everyone else watches and then I keep raping her and then maybe I kill you later or maybe not, what do you say? hmmm? okay I'm going to place her onto the ground and start raping her oh NO my superior officer just arrived!! ahaha I'm the superior officer and I think I'll rape this girl right there as well!!!"
>"oh look at this hot chick over there that you, the other soldier, likes. what if I raper her right here and now while everyone else watches and then I keep raping her and then maybe I kill you later or maybe not, what do you say? hmmm? okay I'm going to place her onto the ground and start raping her oh NO my superior officer just arrived!! ahaha I'm the superior officer and I think I'll rape this girl right there as well!!!"
The really sad part is that it’s even MORE fricking cringe than that. The worst shit screenwriting and filmmaking imaginable.
>"oh look at this hot chick over there that you, the other soldier, likes. what if I raper her right here and now while everyone else watches and then I keep raping her and then maybe I kill you later or maybe not, what do you say? hmmm? okay I'm going to place her onto the ground and start raping her oh NO my superior officer just arrived!! ahaha I'm the superior officer and I think I'll rape this girl right there as well!!!"
The really sad part is that it’s even MORE fricking cringe than that. The worst shit screenwriting and filmmaking imaginable.
And if that weren't enough every 20min or so we get a flashback where the main chick keeps narrating what she was up to in the past in just plain exposition dump scenes with her literally explaining to us everything line by line.
Yup. The absolute worst possible screenwriting errors are now what constitute “A-list” material.
These so-called “screenwriters” are all talentless moronic nepo babies and cute swishy dick suckers servicing the producers and execs. That’s what Hollywood all boils down to now.
>“They’re all misfits,” Snyder says. “They’re all healing and finding a place to belong. It’s a movie about finding a family.” In fact, the director, whose previous blockbusters include 300 and Man of Steel, continues by teasing a scene where Kora and her teammates look upon Veldt and agree that the moon is so beautiful that it’s worth dying on — or fighting hard enough to live upon. “That’s really at the heart of the movie in a lot of ways: Kora finding a place to call home, something that she wants to protect.” >According to Dechant, the film “is a battle between brutality and harmony.” As Admiral Noble ominously traverses the galaxy, he brings destruction to civilizations and entire worlds. Veldt contrasts the nihilism of the Imperium with its kindness and integration with nature. It’s a “place worth fighting for,” Dechant explained.
>“They’re all misfits,” Snyder says. “They’re all healing and finding a place to belong. It’s a movie about finding a family.”
he says this, but then none of them have any character whatsoever and are basically just concept art for a costume design being moved around the screen
None of this was in the film. It's just empty talk. Snyder does this a lot actually. He blabbers on about the supposed details and motivations and absolutely none of it is in his film, it's all just "this is how it is, so like, react like it was actually here ok"? Like Gunn might say that about his GOTG films....and it's true, it is about misfits finding family, that's most of the films. Snyder's characters have no character, they're just character designs and that's it.
Snyder often does that, just talks out a load of nonsense he claims is in his movie but it's nowhere to be found. He's as big a fan of "tell, don't show" as there is, the problem is he equates telling with showing...regardless of whether the telling is not even in the film, but in interviews or supplemental material. So you get him making all these claims about what the film is about or features and you wonder what movie he saw.
I'm not israeli, I'm not white, I'm not American, so I'm not interested in political shits.
This movie is just generic and boring.
I would have thought so even if this movie had been made in my country and all the actors were of the same race as me.
yeah, politics aside this movie is absolute dogshit
te fact that Snyder thinks he created a multi million franchise with this just shows he has the mind of an 8 year old and/or is completely surrounded by yes-sayers
I’ve seen 2 out of 3 of those and they both came out way past their prime even though its source material was innovative and started some tropes we see everywhere now. Is it the same for Rebel Moon because based on the trailer it just looks like Seven Samurai in Space which is Star Wars.
It is literally that. Mixed with some 40k aesthetics and Star Wars beat points. If you aren't gay and like manly things like most Snyderchads you should at least be interested in checking it out.
the movie is just a bunch of tik tok clips put together
the absolute worse scene i've ever sene was in that movie
it's when they recrute that asian ninja
Nutella draws her gun and then she and all the other 20 people just stand stil and watch the asian fight the monster spider.
even when the fricking child was in danger and the white farmer, with no fighting experience at all was shielding the child, basically ending his life, no one moved.
when the asian lady was about to die, no one moved. not a single bullet was fired.
and when theasian lady killed the spider in the most stupid way possible, THEn Nutella put away her gun and everyone else started moving again.
this was just fricking bizarre and ultimately proves what a dogshit director Snyder is.
>It makes everything look like a fake toy set, a little diorama.
THIS is what I was talking about and trying to explain to the other Anon with this post here
Its complicated. It depends on your tv set up. There was a big conversation in the last thread about current home televisions and the way they process digital images.
The gist of it is you need a good tv to really appreciate the movie. And if your television is shit the movie can look like shit and even make the acting look like shit. It's complicated and seems a bit bonkers but its true. It watched this movie twice on two different tv's.
>Its complicated. It depends on your tv set up. There was a big conversation in the last thread about current home televisions and the way they process digital images.
>The gist of it is you need a good tv to really appreciate the movie. And if your television is shit the movie can look like shit and even make the acting look like shit. It's complicated and seems a bit bonkers but its true. It watched this movie twice on two different tv's.
From the other thread:
>digital processing of a shitty tv will even make the acting look bad. People will say its cope but people that understand how digital tv's and post processing works will understand. Nolan understands and BEGGED people to turn off post processing before watching Tenet at home.
>It can even effect how the viewer sees acting. But I remember being at Fry's Electronics way back in the day looking at a display television and they had Pirates of the Carriben playing on a new tv with the image post processing turned all the way up to max level. It made the whole movie look like a soap opera where you could tell that Johnny Depp was wearing a wig and you could see him "acting". Film plebs will have no idea what I am talking about but people that know know.
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>That's called motion interpolation. What it does is that it generates extra frames between the normal frames, increasing the framerate. Looks like dogshit. >The added frames are calculated and put in between the original frames for a "smoother" picture. The problem is the added movement frames are not natural. They are calculated by a computer inside the television. The subconcious can sense that something is 'off' which makes you think it's the acting that is unnatural when it is really the added artificially calculated frames of movement.
Motion interpolation can thankfully be turned off in pretty much every television, but the extremely confusing part is that every single TV manufacturer has a different name for it in the picture settings.
The guy above complaining how everything looked like a diorama definitely has his post processing turned on. That weird uncanny valley videgame look seems to be more pronounced with content that is shot on newer hd cameras.
Nah, the diorama effect is because of the shallow depth of field, caused by shooting with a lens at a T stop of T1.5
5 months ago
Anonymous
Correct. The lens choices are my biggest visual issues with the film.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The lens choice elevates the film.
Your inability to recognize the genius if your failing, not the film's.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, the diorama effect is because of the shallow depth of field, caused by shooting with a lens at a T stop of T1.5
The lens choice elevates the film.
Your inability to recognize the genius if your failing, not the film's.
It's terrible cinematography because Snyder appoints himself in that role.
And like a teenage girl with her first SLR camera, he favors shallow depth of field over deep focus.
Dude should just swallow his pride and hire a real cinematographer.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Your taste in cinematography is shit.
That is why he and not you are the director.
>but the extremely confusing part is that every single TV manufacturer has a different name for it in the picture settings.
What I could find:
LG: TruMotion
Samsung: Picture Clarity or Auto Motion Plus
Sony: MotionFlow or TruCinema
TCL: Action smoothing
Vizio: Motion Control
The guy above complaining how everything looked like a diorama definitely has his post processing turned on. That weird uncanny valley videgame look seems to be more pronounced with content that is shot on newer hd cameras.
>That weird uncanny valley videgame look seems to be more pronounced with content that is shot on newer hd cameras.
What do you mean exactly? What aspect of the image are you talking about in this case?
funny how this is not an issue with any other movie, except this one
I first noticed it with Ashoka. I would go over and watch it at my friends house. He has a really shitty basic entry level flat screen tv. And everything would look fake. But then on watching...I think it was episode 4. The one where she has the duel with Bailin. I first watched it at my friends house then wen't home and watched it again on my high end 70" Sony XBR. It was like night and day. Almost like a totally different shoe. That episode with the duel looked pretty fricking amazing. So I went back and watched the other episodes and I noticed the same thing.
So this time when I went over to his house to watch Rebel Moon I was expecting it. Yep it looked like a videogame. But then I rewatched it again today on my high end Sony the movie looks fricking amazing. Like a totally different movie. Even the acting is better. Especially with Ed Skrien. Dude is fricking killing it in this movie.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What are you talking about exactly? Motion interpolation?
5 months ago
Anonymous
What I am talking about is explained at the bottom of this tldr here
>It makes everything look like a fake toy set, a little diorama.
THIS is what I was talking about and trying to explain to the other Anon with this post here[...]
>Its complicated. It depends on your tv set up. There was a big conversation in the last thread about current home televisions and the way they process digital images.
>The gist of it is you need a good tv to really appreciate the movie. And if your television is shit the movie can look like shit and even make the acting look like shit. It's complicated and seems a bit bonkers but its true. It watched this movie twice on two different tv's.
From the other thread:
>digital processing of a shitty tv will even make the acting look bad. People will say its cope but people that understand how digital tv's and post processing works will understand. Nolan understands and BEGGED people to turn off post processing before watching Tenet at home.
>It can even effect how the viewer sees acting. But I remember being at Fry's Electronics way back in the day looking at a display television and they had Pirates of the Carriben playing on a new tv with the image post processing turned all the way up to max level. It made the whole movie look like a soap opera where you could tell that Johnny Depp was wearing a wig and you could see him "acting". Film plebs will have no idea what I am talking about but people that know know.
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>That's called motion interpolation. What it does is that it generates extra frames between the normal frames, increasing the framerate. Looks like dogshit. >The added frames are calculated and put in between the original frames for a "smoother" picture. The problem is the added movement frames are not natural. They are calculated by a computer inside the television. The subconcious can sense that something is 'off' which makes you think it's the acting that is unnatural when it is really the added artificially calculated frames of movement.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Then just tell your moron friend to turn the motion interpolation off.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I tried to turn it off. But it seems to just have this built in shitty image post processing automatically that won't go away even when you turn it off. Its a newer television. But its an entry level and it probably has a Z grade chip in it humming away processing evey image. I suspect its the same problem with a lot of newer cheap tv's that have shitty processors to save money.
But then the post processing seems to be more pronounced with these newer streaming shows like Ashoka and Rebel Moon that are shot on the latest digital cameras. It can look really good on the right tv but if its not the right tv its going to look like shit. Its like a shitty music master that only sounds good on a high end audio setup but sounds like shit on your clock radio. Really good audio masters sound good everywhere. Even on shitty equipment. I suspect its the same thing with these newer digital video content masters where they haven't mastered it for low end equipment.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Some brands/models will have multiple settings associated with "enhancing" moving images.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I tried to turn it off. But it seems to just have this built in shitty image post processing automatically that won't go away even when you turn it off.
I'm guessing you just didn't find the setting since all manufacturers have a different name for it. Would be easy to figure out knowing the type and model of the TV >But then the post processing seems to be more pronounced with these newer streaming shows like Ashoka and Rebel Moon that are shot on the latest digital cameras.
That makes zero sense. They're just video files being streamed. They don't include some magic data that enables the TV to do more post-processing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The cameras used have absolutely nothing to do with the post-processing. It's an entirely separate thing. Any video can be post-processed in awful ways no matter what camera it was captured on. Film or digital. And these large scale productions are shot as RAW video data anyway.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You just don't get it. It's the TV's fault that Snyder's movie is garbage.
I explained it all in my posts here
[...]
I first noticed it with Ashoka. I would go over and watch it at my friends house. He has a really shitty basic entry level flat screen tv. And everything would look fake. But then on watching...I think it was episode 4. The one where she has the duel with Bailin. I first watched it at my friends house then wen't home and watched it again on my high end 70" Sony XBR. It was like night and day. Almost like a totally different shoe. That episode with the duel looked pretty fricking amazing. So I went back and watched the other episodes and I noticed the same thing.
So this time when I went over to his house to watch Rebel Moon I was expecting it. Yep it looked like a videogame. But then I rewatched it again today on my high end Sony the movie looks fricking amazing. Like a totally different movie. Even the acting is better. Especially with Ed Skrien. Dude is fricking killing it in this movie.
>It makes everything look like a fake toy set, a little diorama.
THIS is what I was talking about and trying to explain to the other Anon with this post here[...]
>Its complicated. It depends on your tv set up. There was a big conversation in the last thread about current home televisions and the way they process digital images.
>The gist of it is you need a good tv to really appreciate the movie. And if your television is shit the movie can look like shit and even make the acting look like shit. It's complicated and seems a bit bonkers but its true. It watched this movie twice on two different tv's.
From the other thread:
>digital processing of a shitty tv will even make the acting look bad. People will say its cope but people that understand how digital tv's and post processing works will understand. Nolan understands and BEGGED people to turn off post processing before watching Tenet at home.
>It can even effect how the viewer sees acting. But I remember being at Fry's Electronics way back in the day looking at a display television and they had Pirates of the Carriben playing on a new tv with the image post processing turned all the way up to max level. It made the whole movie look like a soap opera where you could tell that Johnny Depp was wearing a wig and you could see him "acting". Film plebs will have no idea what I am talking about but people that know know.
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>That's called motion interpolation. What it does is that it generates extra frames between the normal frames, increasing the framerate. Looks like dogshit. >The added frames are calculated and put in between the original frames for a "smoother" picture. The problem is the added movement frames are not natural. They are calculated by a computer inside the television. The subconcious can sense that something is 'off' which makes you think it's the acting that is unnatural when it is really the added artificially calculated frames of movement.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Then why the frick did you blabber about the "latest digital cameras" like you have no fricking idea what you're talking about >I explained it all in my posts here
Some of those greentexts are mine from the previous thread kek.
Also, I repeat, motion interpolation can be turned off. All TV manufacturers allow it to be turned off. There are no exceptions.
5 months ago
Anonymous
No, you don't understand. The movie is great if you watch it on a specially calibrated snydervision set that you need to jailbreak to unlock Zack's true vision.
You also need to wait not for the Snyder cut, but for the ultimate Snyder cut that is going to come out years down the line in 16K
5 months ago
Anonymous
Here's a problem for you. I don't have a shitty cheap flatscreen with motion smoothing on. I'm not a normie using whatever crap is on sale at the nearest electronics store after Christmas. I have a high end TV, configured correct. And it still looked like crap.
maybe Snyder should now sell tvs to tools like you to watch his snyder cut on a snyder tv in snyder vision
I'm sure you can get his kegel and plug set too
>hot main character
no, are you moronic? >fun time
same question as above.
but seriously, what about this shit was fun to you? the characters barely do anything and the few action scenes are just random mooks shooting at each other while the main characters stand in open fields and magically don't get hit.
I liked the shitty 40k knockoff and the locations were interesting enough, it wasnt too long either.
As for the main character, if you dont like sweaty tomboys anon, then we really have nothing further to talk about
It is set in a fictional galaxy ruled by the Motherworld, whose military, the Imperium, threatens a farming colony on the moon Veldt. Kora, a former Imperium soldier, ventures on a quest to recruit warriors from across the galaxy to make a stand against the Imperium before they return to Veldt.
If you took every popular fantasy/space opera flick of the last 30 years, a few comic books like Saga, fed them into a low-grade AI program and told it to "make a modern Battle Beyond the Stars, but diverse", it would shit out something really really close to Rebel Moon.
I've been telling you that 60fps is the bane of cinema. If only Mr Snyder made his movie in 24fps his shots wouldn't look like little kid dioramas with two-dimensional characters. 24fps adds more depth to the characters, story and background detail, which in this case is exquisitely crafted from fine corinthian space leather.
It was shot entirely in slowmo and then sped up to 4x-8x so you're basically speedwatching it on normal. Also the soft-focus effect is because each of your eyes can only see 30fps so he cleverly interpolated them so it appears to be 60fps and slightly 3d, like the 3ds. He's way ahead of everyone in the industry, except maybe Cameron.
space 7 samurai but bad
hopkins bot and the young non rapist soldier make up the last 2
literally all the characters from the film are just transposed, or in some cases trans'd
Kyuzo is now NEMESIS for example
The movie was good, fun action adventure. Better than anything Hollywood pumps out into theaters nowadays. I enjoyed it and already watched it 2 times. 7.5/10
>already watched it 2 times
Only 2 times? Come now anon, everyone knows you have to view Snyder films for at least 100 hours before they start getting good
Nah, It's fine. Better than rian starwars, or JJ's ep 9, or taika's last thor.
Not the best movie but to pretend its some massive trainwreck is dishonest.
>JJ's ep 9, or taika's last thor.
Wow, better than two notoriously terrible movies hated even by fans of the two directors' previous films in those franchises? What high praise.
nooo you can't do laser swords! only yidsney can do that! >Asimov introduced the idea of an energy blade in the short story The Traders. Published in the October 1944
kys
This is literally a Star Wars treatment Snyder proposed to Lucasfilm 12 or 13 years back, that they passed on, he reworked it to be his own serial numbers filed off universe. He is open about this. Who are you trying to kid?
Nobody, but your kidding yourself if you think this is any sort of plagiarism, especially if you want to bring up starwars, which was made in the exact same way (borrowing cool shit from other people and mashing it all into a space opera).
It isn't 1976. You can't pretend Star Wars doesn't exist. It doesn't matter if Star Wars was a pastiche of Republic serials and Japanese movies. It has subsumed those sources. If you have a Star Wars project you propose to Lucasfilm, then rework into your own universe, but keep a character having glowing swords that cut through anything, they are going to be compared to lightsabers.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>they are going to be compared to lightsabers.
ok...
5 months ago
Anonymous
Here's your comparison bro, rebel moon is clearly doing it better.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Oh so they are lightsabers now? Not obscure references to Asimov?
5 months ago
Anonymous
call them what you want, those in rebel moon are better imo
I barely even knew who the black guy was, he only had one scene before the showdown, but apparently I was supposed to react like it was Obi-Wan being cut down, and the buzzcut girl who had one line before that.
Why does it seem like scenes and their transitions are rushed in most commercial films? I want films to have a gradual flow to them and let a scene have enough breathing time before it cuts to the next one.
>at least we’ll get a cool war scene where the farmers get slaughtered but thanks to the heroes manage to miraculously win against the empire right? After all robot and the cuck soldier still barely did anything in the first act! >Snyder: “Lol, LMAO”
there's some clear pulp influences, but I still believe heavy metal is the main influence after star wars. I didn't like the pace, the movie needed to be longer. when is the R cur coming? also I want to frick a spider
I have ONLY ever seen a fan edit of John Carpenter, and it was quite good. Had no interest in watching the real edit after that, because it sounded like shit by comparison.
It really isn't. It's pretty corny. And why was Noble dressed like a Nazi despite nobody else dressing even close to that? Kinda on the nose innit? I'll still watch the Director's cut though.
I can't believe they did a "bad guy promises to set idiot free if he tells them all he knows, then shock, he kills them afterwards instead" scene. Played completely straight like it's a surprise.
I don't care about muh whites/POCs shit.
What I do care about is the atrocious camerawork, limp action poorly disguised with constant slo-mo, nonexistent character development and incredibly unoriginal settings.
I like how the spider monster who died in the same scene she was introduced was given more establishment and development in that scene than the actual person they were recruiting was.
No. Those films at least had something memorable about them. Rebel Moon was really fricking boring. Like someone decided to remake Seven Samurai without understanding what made it good. But Cinemaphile loves their Snyderslop I guess.
I like it in concept but not really in execution.
The characters are completely non existent, the plot moves too fast to get to the end. It feels like it was a movie that was made from a bunch of cut up episodes of some miniseries or something.
I like the set design though
The cutting and obvious skips in narrative is a little jarring, especially once they leave the first planet. But after reading the endless kvetching and seething here for two days before watching it, I was pleasantly surprised by how little it bothered me. I was expecting a total clusterfrick shitshow like Suckerpunch but wound up enjoying it more than maybe any of his other films besides maybe 300 on first watch. It helps casting an extremely frickable lead actress who isn’t spiritually and psychologically repulsive like Brie Larson. If this is the shitty cut, the R rated extended cut is going to be absolute kino.
The kvetching here reads like emotionally incontinent israelites on Twitter crying about Hamas. I thought Snyder is israeli, is he a gentile? Would explain everything.
Why do you keep saying the same things over and over?
I think it would work much better as a miniseries, we could take the time to know the characters and maybe see some more adventures, this way we get like three minutes to show each new character and then they get shunted off to the background.
Like that prince dude who can talk to animals or whatever, that's shown once and then he gets like three lines of dialogue in the entire rest of the movie.
>better as a miniseries
Couldn’t agree more. It’s very clear there’s a tremendous amount of context cut out. I have a feeling the full cut will be a similar improvement from Whedons Justice League to the Snyder cut. But at this point in current year soulless Hollywood goyslop, I’ll take what we can get.
>I have a feeling the full cut will be a similar improvement from Whedons Justice League to the Snyder cut
That's literally a different movie. This at best is going to be BvS's ultimate edition, where the plot is a little less scattershot and sliced up, but it didn't fix BvS's fundamental problems of an awful and pretentious script and a dire third act. It won't fix this movie's central problems of ugly camerawork, bad acting and a deeply unoriginal fantasy world. In fact Snyder's claimed that besides the added violence and nudity, which were pretty obvious where they were missing, the extended cut won't even be focused on Kora the protagonist, it'll be adding in lots of scenes focused on the bad guy, the Regent. Which isn't what the movie needs, it needs its cast of characters to not be flat cardboard cutouts of concept art. The robot that was only at the start and end got more developmental than Kora's entire band of warriors. The spider monster that died in the same scene it was introduced got more development than the warrior they were recruiting in that scene.
After the final skirmish there was a big CG looking hero shot of all the surviving band lined up, exactly like his Justice League shot at the end of ZSJL, only...I don't give a shit about any of these people, so it falls hilariously flat. I don't even know half their names. It actually reminds me of Legend of the Guardians, another Snyder film that felt like it was missing half a movie in the runtime, there was a scene before the climax where they had a "you've come so far together, heroes!" scene where the group reaffirms their unity, but half of the group showed up like a scene or two earlier, it was like we missed an entire adventure with all these characters between scenes, and the movie just informed us instead that apparently they're a close knit group now.
It was fricking kino. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. The final act is the weakest part, but still more entertaining and more soul that anything Disney or WB have made in years. Can’t wait to see this fricker deliver the uncut version. And where the frick is the 2160p HDR copy? Did israeliteflix really only stream this masterpiece in 1080p?
>This is a copy of a lightsaber >nuh-uh! it's a hot saber! >The film is a repurposed Star Wars project, it's a copy of a lightsaber >I DON'T LIKE STAR WARS! DISNEY!
Did you just see the words "Star Wars" in a post and have some sort of automatic reaction. Your reply makes zero sense. It has nothing to do with anything.
5 months ago
Anonymous
They’re turbo NPC’s. like every critic, and the 6 boosters are probably ripping holes through their blood brain barrier.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>star wars fanboy >not an NPC >not eightuple-vaxxed
lmao wtf am i reading
5 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you keep talking about Star Wars fandom? Are you moronic? Is engaging in limp surface level console wars all you are able to do?
5 months ago
Anonymous
because that's the discussion you brought up? moron?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't bring up "Do you like Star Wars or do you like Rebel Moon". Your preference is not relevant. The point of discussion is whether or not those not-lightsabers are copied from lightsabers or not. What does "I don't like Star Wars film!" have to do with that discussion?
Or is it you believe all things exist in some sort of perpetual console war and you must not "surrender" a point to the other console, even if it has nothing to do with quality or preference?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>bring up basedwars and say the two movies are comparable >people compare them >nooo not like that!!
you don't have a point.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You didn't compare anything. You just replied to a specific argument going "BETTER THAN LAST JEDI!!!" which has nothing to do with anything. The point being discussed is "are those glowing sci-fi swords that cut through anything copied from lightsabers?". Your opinion of a Star Wars movie is not relevant. And the answer is yes, because this is literally a repurposed Star Wars project Snyder proposed, and those swords would have been lightsabers originally.
5 months ago
Anonymous
but Lucas didn't invent the idea and they don't look alike, they dont seem to function alike, so what exactly is your point?
Maybe snyder would've adapted his script to fit goywars and not the other way around, ever think of that? >Director Zack Snyder has been dreaming up a film like Rebel Moon for nearly 40 years. In a lengthy The Hollywood Reporter profile on the director, Snyder revealed that he first envisioned the upcoming Netflix film's sci-fi concept in the 1980s while attending film school.
uh oh..
5 months ago
Anonymous
>but Lucas didn't invent the idea and they don't look alike, they dont seem to function alike
Glowing swords that are hot and cut through everything are not alike? In a repurposed Star Wars project? What do you suppose the glowing swords that are hot and cut through everything would have been in Snyder's proposed Star Wars project had that been made?
5 months ago
Anonymous
but even if they are copied, which they aren't, they are better done in rebel moon so what is your point?
5 months ago
Anonymous
That the movie is already full of nearly 1:1 copies of various movies and shows Snyder has seen, and having not-lightsabers left over from his Star Wars project is obnoxiously on the nose even by Snyder's standards.
5 months ago
Anonymous
They are copies though. Like really blatantly.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>copies
More like improvements. What’s the problem here? Do I need to take estrogen to understand this?
5 months ago
Anonymous
So you want to deny they are copied like so much else in the film is copied, but also want to call them supposedly better versions?
5 months ago
Anonymous
are spaceships also "blatantly" copied from starwars, because they fly in space in a similar fashion?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ah yes, the glowing saber that's hot and cuts through anything, in a project that was originally proposed to Lucasfilm as a Star Wars film, clearly that is as broad and nonspecific as "spaceships that move".
5 months ago
Anonymous
it is though.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's really not.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Zack Snyder has been dreaming up a film like Rebel Moon for nearly 40 years. In a lengthy The Hollywood Reporter profile on the director, Snyder revealed that he first envisioned the upcoming Netflix film's sci-fi concept in the 1980s while attending film school.
And when exactly was Star Wars released again?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Trust me bro, he had the idea in the 1980s, he said so, in fact he doesn't even know what Star Wars is, he's from Mars. He's never even heard of Star Wars. Snyder hasn't seen Star Wars. Is that even real? Star Wars sounds made up, I reckon Zack Snyder invented lightsabers back sci-fi in the 1980s
5 months ago
Anonymous
They are marketing this like Star Wars for adults but it’s obviously a blatant rip-off of 40k without space marines and nowhere near as edgy. I’ll laugh for days once Games Workshop announces the (merited) lawsuit
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Regent Balisarius >Belisarius Cawl >Imperium >Mechanicus Militarum >other random tidbits of Latin thrown around
How did he get away with it?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I honestly don’t think he will. I think Netflix have boomer lawyers who think 40k=space marines and gave it a green light. Meanwhile rogue trader just came out, the internet is obsessed with GW shit, and GW is notoriously ultra litigious of their IP
5 months ago
Anonymous
The main character is pretty much a battle sister and carries a bolter. The imperium in this movie has had their ideology warped after the death of their leader who they constantly pray to. Also the bad guy is a commissar. Just slap a 40k logo in the corner and the casual viewer would be completely fooled. It absolutely passes the threshold of IP breach
The worst possible cut of this thing is better than anything Yidsney has made since acquiring LucasFilm. They must be seething worse than the israelites and trannies in this thread.
The kvetching here reads like emotionally incontinent israelites on Twitter crying about Hamas. I thought Snyder is israeli, is he a gentile? Would explain everything.
I have no problem with a film being serious. But a film that's self-serious, I do. Now, how do you walk the line between self-serious and serious? I don't know, I'm not the filmmaker. But it's like pornography, I know it when I see it, and I this movie was self-serious. Self-serious out the ass. I'm not asking for jokes. Just to remove the movie's head from its ass.
Snyder has no confidence in his action scenes nor does he have the talent to convey depth in character interactions so this is the obvious end result. It’s a near 2.5 hour movie with no plot, no character development, no cinematography, and garbage action. But hey, lots of walking around and slow-mo
>hated every single Snyder movie ever made >wanted to kill myself during his justice league >had to stop BvS halfway through >absolutely loved Rebel Moon
what happened?
Trying to speed run through this thread before the troony mods shut it down. Are movies not allowed to have laser weapons either because Star Wars did it first? I don’t get the criticism of the laser swords. Out of all the problems in the narrative and characterization, this is what the israelites and trannies are seething over?
It seems more like Snyder fans are seething over them being called out as being lifted from Star Wars. They're not being singled out as the reason the movie is bad. Merely an example of how deeply unoriginal the film is, not just in its world, but its story, scenes, even designs. But there's some fans who won't accept the example, they're adamant in this repurposed Star Wars project, the lightsabers are not lightsabers and definitely have nothing to do with lightsabers. As if the film is not FULL of ripoffs from other films. That's just one.
Why does Snyder have this cult of morons obsessed with his mediocre shit? He made 3 good movies the last of which came out over a decade ago. Is this bots? ESLs who lack the cultural nuance to detect how bad his work is?
Shut the frick up.
Those are all terrible movies though.
Go back to r*ddit.
Valerian was good till the half-way point.
>the handjob was good until she ripped my wiener off
Krull is terrible? Since when?
reminder that even though Cara can't act for shit Valerian was based and so was fifth element so frick gary oldman
>John Carter
Mediocre.
>Krull
Kino.
>Valerian
Shit.
Rebel Moon is better than all of those.
Krull was never good. I know, I was there when it came out.
John Carter is a bit soulless and Valerian was just a hard miss that should have been good but wasn't.
And this isn't a "hard miss"?
Its complicated. It depends on your tv set up. There was a big conversation in the last thread about current home televisions and the way they process digital images.
The gist of it is you need a good tv to really appreciate the movie. And if your television is shit the movie can look like shit and even make the acting look like shit. It's complicated and seems a bit bonkers but its true. It watched this movie twice on two different tv's.
Yeah no shit. TVs will always look different from each other if not calibrated perfectly, and even then they will differ depending on whether they're LCD, OLED or whatever.
Valerian really fricked up with the casting of the two leads. It has many more problems but the casting just immediately killed it.
>Shit.
The first act was good.
Maybe the most kino opening montage of any movie ever
On the second watch it reminded me of pic rel.
I think Riddick sucks
Used to be a fan but all the movies actually suck and I couldn't care less about the games
I'm only an hour into this exposition dump, how dare you compare this shit slop to the slop kino that is chronicles of riddick
>second watch
3rd watch tomorrow you homosexual tourist
>3rd watch
4th watch soon after with family at christmas you utter pleb, 5th will save for the R version
I would say post hand but it's a moot point isn't it Sanjeep
desperate morons I'm white you idiots born and raised in aus, jesus what about snyder makes you trannies seeth so much?
He makes bad movies, that you apparently watch over and over and over again.
What's it like to do that?
brown hands typed this post
It’s warhammer 40k, 7 samurai, star wars, final fantasy, the Roman empire, and nazi Germany
Sold
It's the Chinese knockoff plastic action figure of those things.
Just watch it on a quality television. It will make all the difference.
>Belasaurius
>Mehcanicus
>This hat
Zack knows. For the Emprah
I wish more people understood how much you can get away with if you just have some cool hats.
sounds friggin epic
It's just where they copied the styles for the characters.
The movie is
>farm gets attacked
>we need rebels to helps us defend
>cantina scene to get guy to get more guys
>mindless talk inbetween locations
>scene with beastmaster who's skills never come up again (he's a meleegay against people with automatic laser rifles and spaceships)
>elevator conversation with co-worker tier dialogue to next planet
>scene with samurai lady who's skills never come up again (she's a meleegay against people with automatic laser rifles and spaceships)
>melodramatic dialogue while going to next planet
>scene with dirty general getting a bath
>i don't even know what skills he has, at least he shoots a gun
>more melodramatic dialogue while, plot twist, the guy comes to them this time
>they still had to go to another planet first though
>rebels finally join the movie
>but only like 4 of them
>traitor indirectly tells protagonist he's gonna betray them
>next scene he does exactly that
>big end fight with boss
>boss dies but so do 3 out of the 4 rebels
>lets go back to the farm I guess
>oh we kept using the robot with that headdress in all our promotional material
>yeah, there he is in a field holding a stick for 10 seconds
>fin
I really don't know why we needed so many slow-mo shots of the guy taming the bird if they're just gonna abandon it there. None of this would really matter if the action scenes weren't so mindnumbingly dull. Cause when they stop fighting they start talking and that's even worse.
>>i don't even know what skills he has, at least he shoots a gun
Apparently he's a super genius general but we never see him do anything related to strategy or tactics, either because the other character introductions took way too long or they're saving it for the next film. Either way, shit characterization.
It isn't.
>nazi
try farther to the east you dumb burger
Everybody can suck my dick I like this movie and own the Blu-Ray.
I like Kunis and the Wachowskis so I have a soft spot for this.
The bees were dumb, Eddie Redmayne is hilarious, the sets and costumes look great.
I have never seen anything Wachowskis related outside The Matrix trilogy (I like them all). Should I give this a try?
Ehhh, IIRC, it seemed like they didn't know what they wanted, nor what they were doing.
>I have never seen anything Wachowskis related outside The Matrix trilogy (I like them all). Should I give this a try?
Hell yes absofricking-lutely. Outside of some slightly cringe looking bounty hunters Jupiter Ascending is a phenominal looking movie that is easily better than 90 percent of the Disney dominated crap we get thise days in theaters.
Some of the visuals were just too much for my eyes. Similar to Marvel, it was one or two actors and computer cartoon everything else. I will say the building at the beginning was pretty great looking, though. Mila's dresses were incredible. And that page was hilarious. But overall, it was underwhelming.
I like the Terry Gilliam moments at the space DMV. Lots of things to like about the movie. It might have been overlooked because it was middle of the pack when it came out. But its definitely better than most of the stuff coming out today.
Yeah, I'll give it that. I couldn't remember Terry's name, but yeah, the page. I really enjoyed that sequence. It felt authentic, too.
Terry Gilliam wasn't the name of the guy at the space DMV. Terry Gilliam is the creator of movies like Time Bandits and Baron Munchausen. The space DMV reminded me of one of those types of movies.
Oh. Well, yeah, everything I said, except not Terry.
This is 1000% a real question. Are you gay, trans, or super into pegging?
It's a weird film in that to a lot of people it really sucks, but if you fall into the aforementioned categories it hits close enough to enough fetishes that it elevates the film in all the right ways to make it fricking awesome. If you're like a normal nerd, you'll probably hate it. If you're trans though this shit will hit like fricking heroin.
>Jupiter Ascending is for trannies.
Absolute fucing lies. Literally nothing pozzed about the movie. The main hero is a super badass straight white guy. There's an honest to goodness damsel in distress that he has to rescue. No girlboss moments because she's a chick. She's a normal chick that can't fight and has to get rescued by the hero.
Also the movie looks great and the orchestral score is GOD TIER.
The "main character" is literally Mila Kunis, a boring maid that finds out she's secretly a magic space princess. Her "knight", Channing Tatum is a literal space elf with pointy ears that has, and I wish I was joking, "extreme" anti-gravity rollerblades and is sworn to serve Mila Kunis. At it's core it's a YA teen romance like Twilight draped in scifi splendor. Hence: if you're gay, trans, or super into pegging it's awesome. Otherwise it's a weird really cringey mess.
>or super into pegging
Anon, do you want to tell us something? Confess, maybe?
Yeah. If you fricking LOVE Jupiter Ascending and you're not gay or trans then give pegging a try because you'll probably fricking love it. Jupiter Ascending is 100% an assplay barometer.
That's oddly specific, anon.
Cinemaphile is a place where people can come out of the closet without actually coming out in a meaningful way, anon.
Look, Jupiter Ascending is a movie that two 50 year old troony's both agreed was their dream project, an realization of their perfect fantasy. As such, there's genderbending stuff all over the film. The costume design often skews queer, the characters are designed in ways that challenge gender norms while embracing old scifi/fantasy character tropes and stereotypes. The "cool" female characters share that particular female-centric male-gaze feminism that verges on fetishization (Kunis is literally the queen bee) while the male characters are either sexless background noise or genderqueer frickbois. Redmane as the feminine power bottom and Tatum as the clubboi masculine restrained sub top. The concept of Kunis toiling away as a "lowly" maid while secretly being a pureblood princess speaks to the Disney princess fantasy of genderqueer/gender confused men who can only imagine femininity as an outsider looking in.
It's pure troony kino. There's nothing at all wrong with it, but it won't be for everyone.
You know way too much about those freakish subcultures.
I've fricked a lot of trannies, anon. They literally LOVE that shit.
Stop fricking trannies, please. It's disgusting. Pee pee poo poo aids shit. You're failing in your function as a man. You should reconcile them with their masculinity (like a father would), not stick your dick in their stinky buttholes.
Jesus Christ, anon. Stop being such a fricking homosexual. If a hole looks good, frick it.
>Jesus Christ
Funny how you accidently gave the perfect reason not to stick your genitalia into unfit orifices. It's a matter of life and death, anon.
Jesus liked to hang out with prostitutes and lowlife's and he could turn water into wine. He would absolutely be down with slammin' troony ass.
He was in the company of such people so that they would turn their lives around. And blasphemy comes at a high cost.
I'm not going to fight you on the roller skates. Yeah that was...uhh..movin on... But the rest of the movie is based except for the bounty hunters.
The roller skates at the end seemed like it was trying to harness the same energy that the end of The Matrix had. And visually, it was similar. But overall, it fell flat.
I wish he was a space elf.
He was a space half-dog, half-man.
My favorite part is they gave him a face prosthetic that was both painful and made it difficult for Channing to say his lines. For a visual effect most people probably didn’t even appreciate. For an A list coheadliner they paid millions to play his role. Proof positive transgenderism is a mental disorder
Yes. That one is actually bad though and Eddie Redmayne gives one of the goofiest perfomances I've ever seen.
This movie was so bad it literally impacted his ability to get an Oscar for a different role
Snydergays drowning so hard they're clinging to shit that doesn't even float now.
It was worse than all of those. He just stole ideas from Star Wars, Harry Potter, John Carter, Avatar, and WH40K and fricked them all up.
Goddamn. Even the poster is derivative.
Everything is derivative.
Why do you think we've sunk so much investment into AI to automate & accelerate this deriving process?
Unironically a case of soul vs soulless, derivative works that aren't also transformative are shit.
That's the element the AI bros don't understand, they don't get the difference between plagarism and influence
Synder just taking the page layouts and frames from 300 and Watchmen and putting them on screen unchanged was the earliest sign. Empty christian imagery the next. He has a simplistic, underdeveloped viewpoint, there's nothing beyond the image and the replication of images that had previous impact.
>movie opens up with a penis ship entering a vegana portal
>it looks like something out of a syfy special from 20 years ago on a shoestring budget
This one shot is all you really need to know about this dreck.
Tusken Raiders are literally Fremen. Tatooine is Arakis. Spice is Spice. The Sarlac is a fricking sandworm. The plot of A New Hope is literally a direct copy of The Hidden Fortress. Star Wars itself is derivative. That's just how art works.
It's not the what, it's the how.
Yeah but Star Wars was good. Rebel Moon is incoherent shit that is screaming for litigation from Games Workshop
>a modern take on 1800's style military uniforms is proprietary to games workshop
are you moronic?
>Star Wars was good
oh I guess you are
Why are you being intentionally moronic?
And?
Awesome pic, OP. Love that movie. The second one is shit, though.
>big bad world destroying hyperspace traveling spaceship
>gets taken out by 1 dude with a metal spear
yeah, but that dude is Darrius BLOODAXE!!!!! ROOOOARGH!!!!
>big bad world destroying hyperspace traveling space station
>gets taken out by 1 dude with one shot
best part was the turret gunner/pilot just moving his head to dodge and then whipping out the heater to shoot his ass
she doesn't even ride the griffon, nor does she have that sword
I will not watch the Snyderslop. Army of the Dead is one of the worst modern mainstream movies in existence.
WHITE GUYS ARE EVIL, POCs ARE GOOD: THE MOVIE
How many times are they gonna keep making this movie over and over?
Very low bar but at least nichegays can enjoy it.
has anyone else noticed how the evil rapist nazi empire has literally not ONE SINGLE black guy?
and the only good white main character is an emasculated cuck?
Calm down, Zach, the movie is just bad
NU WARS is completely built on making white men evil and POCs heroic. It’s literally the theme of every Nu Wars movie and show.
but at least NU Wars has a white heroic main character
Fantasy movies whether it's LotR or Star Wars or Star Trek inspired is fricked right now. They lost the plot and always want the fantasy to mirror real life which defeats the entire purpose of a fantasy story.
>LotR or Star Wars or Star Trek
they did reflect on modern issues at the time in the original (and prequels for SW) forms
Reflecting on issues (modern or not) is not the same as reflecting modern reality.
The real bad guys aren't even white. The white king was slain by mutts he invited to his military and close personal circle. Every general shown other than Noble are some sort of Latino.
The theme the movie is going for, and this will become more apparent in the director's cut, is that expansionism and multiculturalism is a mixed bag because it dilutes the culture and identity of people, creating resentment and strife. The old king was slain by people from off-world that he tried to assimilate and befriend, Kora finds peace in a monocultural village where life is simple and its people have a strong connection to its land, several of the characters are people that lost their home and culture and are aimless.
literally glup shitto
>and a nazi
BRAVO SNYDER
>bad guy is le nazi le bad
Sigh.
The big bad is a white guy.
When I think of Star Wars, I think of Old West-style Amish people in dirt villages plowing fields with horses.
Hey, but at least they didn’t have AK-47s, Fruity Pebble cereal and nagging old NY israeli mothers.
When I think of Star Wars, I think of homosexual and troony filled Old West-style saloons with fat gay mutants.
It's not good at all. Snyderjeets frick off.
Your lies are powerless here.
That poster is so cool...is the movie decent?
>That poster is so cool...is the movie decent?
If you are a Snyderchad with a decent televison setup at home its definitely worth a watch. If you are low test with near life or death opinions about curtain colors and the current price of lube then you might not like it.
I just finished watching it.
This movie was like a re-edited mini-series.
The designs of weapons and mechanics are very mediocre.
There's a cool colosseum, but no gladiator battles.
Honestly, even as a mindless sci-fi action movie, it's boring.
Netflix cut the colosseum battles.
oh no, not my bunch of Black folk vs bad cgi monster fights!!!????
>Netflix cut it!
No they didn't
It's a marketing stunt Snyder agreed to, so people will keep talking about the movie for a year waiting for the Snyder Cut, instead of forgetting it instantly
Pretty sure the dreadful ass shit will be memoryholed by next week.
Why would they do that when the next installment is releasing in April? Why have a bad first impression at all?
You seem to be confused about why streaming services finance projects on a basic level.
They do it to capture demographics. They essentially just put in effort to have a show/movie in every possible genre and key demographic to cover all bases, that's how they get people to subscribe. If they don't cover something, they will finance a project that takes care of that. These projects just need to be perfunctory, not actually competent. Essentially they want all bases covered.
This just covers an audience of Snyder fanboys, who also keep advertising this project within their own group and making a "snyder cut" is free publicity and it keeps these fans buzzing about it for free and continuously.
Even now everyone is pretending that the "snyder cut" is going to fix things, so they're going to watch every iteration of this slop and keep blabbing about it too.
Its part 2 you dumb frick. PArt 2 will about each character story until meeting Kora
Also, by introducing all the characters at once, many of them become unnoticeable towards the end.
Oh, if this is true, very stupid decision.
I would also like to mention the good part.
Tarak and Griffon were good.
They should have made a movie about them.
>Tarak and Griffon were good.
holy fricking shit taste, that scene was way too long, corny and brought nothing new to the table.
also why the frick should we celebrate the death of the hillbilly when he was a completely non-violent, honorable guy?
oh wait, he was white
Being white is a crime. He should have worshiped his dark skinned master and been sorry for being alive near him. Oy vey!
>white
He was a israelite. He was a scoundrel using the debt to enslave a honorable prince. The prince was respecting his debt, but the israelite rancher was using to trick a poor man into servitude.
Jews deserve death.
I like you Anon.
The Prince was also obviously Palestinian.
>also why the frick should we celebrate the death of the hillbilly when he was a completely non-violent, honorable guy?
He was a israelite. israelites deserve violent deaths.
Because slavery is bad, I guess.
where was the slavery? Tarak said he lost a bet and therefore has to work it off and taming an animal is not slavery. hell he didn't even put the restrains back on the griffon.
the only reason they killed was because he looked like a white Trump voter
Tarak was paying a debt because he was a prince from a conquered world. The rancher was just enslaving Tarak thanks to the debt, which Tarak was nobly paying with work as a smith.
There’s nothing Hollywood hates more than fat white guys.
Jew. He was a israelite.
Charlie's character was a israelite. The Rancher was a israelite.
Jesus Christ, there were fricking israelites a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away????????
FRICK, they’re everywhere.
nice try, Mudasir.
this movie is woke shit and you Synder Pajeets can't convince anyone with a brain it is not
>this movie is woke shit
What tipped you off? The POC female MC? The 50,000 other POCs in the cast? That all the white guys are evil? Or the bar full of gays and trannies?
Now you're just being moronic. Most of the cast was white. Every hometown good guy villager was white. Every Imperial was white. half the rebel forces or more were white. The movie was like 90% white on both sides of the conflict. Good and bad. But the seven samurai were poc? omg there are MILLIONS of blacks in my movie? AHHHH Im going IINSAAAANNNE!! its too pozzed!!
Holy frick, are you moronic. Go suck a black wiener. Isn’t that what you usually do Friday nights.
Nice reddit spacing.
90% of the cast was white and two of the main party were white guys. You will roll out of bed with your panties in a bunch til the day you die.
>main villain is some homosexual constantly moist and veiny toxic nazi, also has degen sex with pet octopus
>main good guy is some gormless cuck just standing around shrugging
>leprechaun han solo
... that's it
>main good guy is some gormless cuck just standing around shrugging
harty kek
laughed way harder at this than i should have
I was waiting for his balls to drop at some point during the movie but no, they just retracted fully into his abdomen. Not even sure what the point of him existing is. I guess so that the seven horsepeople of the multiculturalism don't forget what the mission is and go off on some actually fun adventures instead of setting up the cuck session back at the noob zone rpg village.
>Not even sure what the point of him existing is.
He's Bilbo. But good looking. Really there are no ugly people in the main cast ruining the movie and no fatties. Which is refreshing. And best of all no gays.
>don't forget what the mission is
that end triggered me so hard
why would anyone, besides the farmer go back to the Shire? they only endanger that village, making sure dozens of innocents will die.
the empire is looking for them, not the farmers
Think of the grain.
>>main villain is some homosexual constantly moist and veiny toxic nazi,
How do you not make that character a white guy? He's a fricking 40k imperial. it would have looked pozzed out of place and moronic if he wasn't a white guy. Also even though he's evil he's still a strong character. Watch it again. The dude is based.
I guess you are mad because Charlie Hunnam turned heel. If he hadn't turned heel would you still be complaining? I bet you would. Because you're mindbroken.
The actor is half israeli by the way.
I'm not mad at all, I'm impressed. Impressed that even a bland work such as this can't escape wokeness.
>100% of the space nazis where white, not even a single Black person or asian
>only one single good main character is white and also the weakest of the team, the other white main character is a backstapping rat
>every other main character is a Black person or some mystery meat
>Black person siblings withe the name BLOODAXE being the rebel leaders and hope of all mankind
>Black person general is THE smartest military tactitian ever
>meanwhile the white good guy is a farmer
hello rabbi
>100% of the space nazis where white, not even a single Black person or asian
Not true but also the empire isn't the bad guys and only really went to shit when the king was murdered.
>hope of all mankind
Hope of mankind was a white girl from a royal bloodline.
there is literally ONE main character who is white and not evil and he's a literal cuck.
>hey Kora, my secret love, the guy who looks like me but better in every way just asked for you. you should go see him. especially today at the night of the sex festival
suck some Black person dick
>where was the slavery?
He was literally shackled when the found him.
Unlike the introductions of other characters with explanatory lines, I can really understand his personality through his interactions with the griffon.
You say it's too long, but in fact, the other guys are moving too quickly.
The action scenes pretty much all sucked. And many of them dragged forever like the Avatar/Harry Potter ripoff scene of Turok taming the hippogryph.
>netflix original
Death on arrival
I hate to say it but those troons over at israeliteflix have actually had a good last couple months.
>The Killer
>Leave the World Behind
>Rebel Moon
I don't know how they did it but they did it. Their shows are still steaming dog ass though. Like that one with the family full of gays and the ghost mother killing everybody. Turned it off i the first 20 minutes it was so pozzed.
>>The Killer
the World Behind
Moon
Are you high? They’re all shit.
Reminder that this movie is actually about Islam and the honorable fight that our brothers from Hamas are striking against the great Serpent that is Israel.
There is an Islamic belief that Isa (Jesus Christ peace be upon him) breathed into a clay bird and with God's permission gave life to the bird. In Rebel Moon a character called Princess Issa is seen giving life to a dead bird. Reference or coincidence?
Why are the characters in the film called rebels and not heroes? Reference or coincide?
>dozens of movies and shows already used a dead bird to show a character has reanimation powers
>so of course Snyder has to copy even that overused trope
can't spell -ACK without Zack
What about the Hamas parallels?
You can, there's no Z in ACK
yes but you see anon he got multiple repeating digits
>can't spell -ACK without Zack
How to tell one is an ESL without telling one is an ESL
We truly live in the end times. This is a much weaker version of Riddick, which is already a much weaker version of thing that came before it.
Between this, The Creator and Dunc, there is little substance left in cinema and it's absolutely the right moment for things to make the jump into true AI slop, which this already eerily resembles.
Unh... bros... what Zack meant by this?
Nice screenshot, homosexual
You want him to watch this piece of shit on a monitor for you?
Weird. Ha ha.
Every new character introduced is a POC.
Mystery Meat Wrangler
Black gladiator
Asian chick
Black rebels
It’s all so tiring, bros. When will the woke madness end?
The nice and pure good people farmers were white. The intergalactic ruling class was white. The space Jesus little girl with god powers was white.
Fricking frick what more do you want?
>The nice and pure good people farmers were white. The intergalactic ruling class was white. The space Jesus little girl with god powers was white.
So a few NPC characters with almost zero dialog or screen time is what the white race gets now for representation in movies?
Meanwhile every lead role is a POC.
Frick off.
Last week you were mad that there were two blacks in the background. Now it's too many whites in the background. Sort your shit out man.
Ah, if you can’t see that racial engineering is dominating today’s media, then you need to ride in the short Y-wing fighter painted yellow.
>Ah, if you can’t see that racial engineering is dominating today’s media,
I never said it wasn't because it clearly is. But now you are so mindbroken you are screaming at clouds. The movie is one of the least pozzed things in ages.
>When will the woke madness end?
when we chuds and incels use our basement powers to go protest in front of the Netflix head quarter,
or shoot up a few schools, like usual
Even if there were another version of this movie, it wouldn't be much better without fundamentally improving the digest editing.
It's shockingly stupid and bland.
I can't believe Snyder was trying to hype this up as his passion project.
It's not even campy or shlocky enough to be a fun watch.
Here's a breakdown of the first half hour :
>we are poor but fair peasants toiling to cultivate some grain, look at our completely peaceful life (this goes on for 10 minutes with people only communicating in stock lines), also featuring Corey Stoll who I'm not sure even took the role seriously
>there's also some sort of a main guy who is even more of a cuck than James Marsden, if that is even at all possible
>evil space nazis show up by just like ... appearing in the sky
>everyone gasps and a huge bell is rang as everyone just stands around passively (this goes on for 5+ minutes)
>the bad guys show up in some generic smaller space ships and then disembark and walk around (this takes 5+ minutes)
>now for the next 15 minutes, the main nazi guy does the "we're your friends" routine that just keeps going on and on and on and on until he eventually of course kills Corey Stoll
>then some afrikaaners bully the Hopkins robot for another 10 minutes
Every fricking thing in this movie takes FOREVER. Even simple interactions between people have them slip into some NPC stock dialogue that goes on forever while conveying absolutely nothing that one or two lines couldn't do. Every character is like this.
Evil space nazi soldiers literally speak out loud everything they're doing as they do it "oh look at this hot chick over there that you, the other soldier, likes. what if I raper her right here and now while everyone else watches and then I keep raping her and then maybe I kill you later or maybe not, what do you say? hmmm? okay I'm going to place her onto the ground and start raping her oh NO my superior officer just arrived!! ahaha I'm the superior officer and I think I'll rape this girl right there as well!!!"
Everyone fricking talks like that.
>"oh look at this hot chick over there that you, the other soldier, likes. what if I raper her right here and now while everyone else watches and then I keep raping her and then maybe I kill you later or maybe not, what do you say? hmmm? okay I'm going to place her onto the ground and start raping her oh NO my superior officer just arrived!! ahaha I'm the superior officer and I think I'll rape this girl right there as well!!!"
The really sad part is that it’s even MORE fricking cringe than that. The worst shit screenwriting and filmmaking imaginable.
And if that weren't enough every 20min or so we get a flashback where the main chick keeps narrating what she was up to in the past in just plain exposition dump scenes with her literally explaining to us everything line by line.
Yup. The absolute worst possible screenwriting errors are now what constitute “A-list” material.
These so-called “screenwriters” are all talentless moronic nepo babies and cute swishy dick suckers servicing the producers and execs. That’s what Hollywood all boils down to now.
She was raping farm girls?
>“They’re all misfits,” Snyder says. “They’re all healing and finding a place to belong. It’s a movie about finding a family.” In fact, the director, whose previous blockbusters include 300 and Man of Steel, continues by teasing a scene where Kora and her teammates look upon Veldt and agree that the moon is so beautiful that it’s worth dying on — or fighting hard enough to live upon. “That’s really at the heart of the movie in a lot of ways: Kora finding a place to call home, something that she wants to protect.”
>According to Dechant, the film “is a battle between brutality and harmony.” As Admiral Noble ominously traverses the galaxy, he brings destruction to civilizations and entire worlds. Veldt contrasts the nihilism of the Imperium with its kindness and integration with nature. It’s a “place worth fighting for,” Dechant explained.
This movie is literally about Gaza.
No it’s about Sicily
>“They’re all misfits,” Snyder says. “They’re all healing and finding a place to belong. It’s a movie about finding a family.”
he says this, but then none of them have any character whatsoever and are basically just concept art for a costume design being moved around the screen
None of this was in the film. It's just empty talk. Snyder does this a lot actually. He blabbers on about the supposed details and motivations and absolutely none of it is in his film, it's all just "this is how it is, so like, react like it was actually here ok"? Like Gunn might say that about his GOTG films....and it's true, it is about misfits finding family, that's most of the films. Snyder's characters have no character, they're just character designs and that's it.
None of the first two paragraphs is conveyed in the film at all. Not in this first part at least.
Snyder often does that, just talks out a load of nonsense he claims is in his movie but it's nowhere to be found. He's as big a fan of "tell, don't show" as there is, the problem is he equates telling with showing...regardless of whether the telling is not even in the film, but in interviews or supplemental material. So you get him making all these claims about what the film is about or features and you wonder what movie he saw.
I'm not israeli, I'm not white, I'm not American, so I'm not interested in political shits.
This movie is just generic and boring.
I would have thought so even if this movie had been made in my country and all the actors were of the same race as me.
yeah, politics aside this movie is absolute dogshit
te fact that Snyder thinks he created a multi million franchise with this just shows he has the mind of an 8 year old and/or is completely surrounded by yes-sayers
Why do you guys keep calling out such stupid /misc/ nonsense?
Do you want to think that this movie was ruined by something superfluous?
Sorry, but this is just a bad movie.
It's a shame that Snyder's dream project turned out to be so mediocre.
most people here have brainrot
I’ve seen 2 out of 3 of those and they both came out way past their prime even though its source material was innovative and started some tropes we see everywhere now. Is it the same for Rebel Moon because based on the trailer it just looks like Seven Samurai in Space which is Star Wars.
>it just looks like Seven Samurai in Space
It is literally that. Mixed with some 40k aesthetics and Star Wars beat points. If you aren't gay and like manly things like most Snyderchads you should at least be interested in checking it out.
2woke4me
the women play masculine roles
the men play feminine roles,
a man literally gets catcalled in a bar like a women would.
theres a troony in the bar
all the bad guys are white, if there is someone slightly brown on their side, they become good guys.
everything is muddy.
The pussy farmer got sexually assaulted in the cantina by the dude from 300. Alternatively, an orc from LOTR
I would have watched it if they cast a woman to play the main female character.
the movie is just a bunch of tik tok clips put together
the absolute worse scene i've ever sene was in that movie
it's when they recrute that asian ninja
Nutella draws her gun and then she and all the other 20 people just stand stil and watch the asian fight the monster spider.
even when the fricking child was in danger and the white farmer, with no fighting experience at all was shielding the child, basically ending his life, no one moved.
when the asian lady was about to die, no one moved. not a single bullet was fired.
and when theasian lady killed the spider in the most stupid way possible, THEn Nutella put away her gun and everyone else started moving again.
this was just fricking bizarre and ultimately proves what a dogshit director Snyder is.
When you are in somebody else's hood you mind your business. Bilbo was even pushing it just getting involved enough to move the child out of the way.
why the frick is everything so fricking blurry
literally 80% of every scene is out of focus
because Snyder thinks it looks cool. why do yo think the movie has 10 random slow mo scenes that have absolutely no reason to be there?
Snyder needs to stick to music videos or being heavily chained to an established script
He should also direct Quick Time Events and cutscenes
It makes everything look like a fake toy set, a little diorama.
>It makes everything look like a fake toy set, a little diorama.
THIS is what I was talking about and trying to explain to the other Anon with this post here
>Its complicated. It depends on your tv set up. There was a big conversation in the last thread about current home televisions and the way they process digital images.
>The gist of it is you need a good tv to really appreciate the movie. And if your television is shit the movie can look like shit and even make the acting look like shit. It's complicated and seems a bit bonkers but its true. It watched this movie twice on two different tv's.
From the other thread:
>digital processing of a shitty tv will even make the acting look bad. People will say its cope but people that understand how digital tv's and post processing works will understand. Nolan understands and BEGGED people to turn off post processing before watching Tenet at home.
>It can even effect how the viewer sees acting. But I remember being at Fry's Electronics way back in the day looking at a display television and they had Pirates of the Carriben playing on a new tv with the image post processing turned all the way up to max level. It made the whole movie look like a soap opera where you could tell that Johnny Depp was wearing a wig and you could see him "acting". Film plebs will have no idea what I am talking about but people that know know.
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>That's called motion interpolation. What it does is that it generates extra frames between the normal frames, increasing the framerate. Looks like dogshit.
>The added frames are calculated and put in between the original frames for a "smoother" picture. The problem is the added movement frames are not natural. They are calculated by a computer inside the television. The subconcious can sense that something is 'off' which makes you think it's the acting that is unnatural when it is really the added artificially calculated frames of movement.
Motion interpolation can thankfully be turned off in pretty much every television, but the extremely confusing part is that every single TV manufacturer has a different name for it in the picture settings.
The guy above complaining how everything looked like a diorama definitely has his post processing turned on. That weird uncanny valley videgame look seems to be more pronounced with content that is shot on newer hd cameras.
funny how this is not an issue with any other movie, except this one
Nah, the diorama effect is because of the shallow depth of field, caused by shooting with a lens at a T stop of T1.5
Correct. The lens choices are my biggest visual issues with the film.
The lens choice elevates the film.
Your inability to recognize the genius if your failing, not the film's.
It's terrible cinematography because Snyder appoints himself in that role.
And like a teenage girl with her first SLR camera, he favors shallow depth of field over deep focus.
Dude should just swallow his pride and hire a real cinematographer.
Your taste in cinematography is shit.
That is why he and not you are the director.
Wouldn't put it past Sneeder to do so.
Funny how this isn't a problem with any other movie on my monitor (not TV). Just this movie.
>but the extremely confusing part is that every single TV manufacturer has a different name for it in the picture settings.
What I could find:
LG: TruMotion
Samsung: Picture Clarity or Auto Motion Plus
Sony: MotionFlow or TruCinema
TCL: Action smoothing
Vizio: Motion Control
>That weird uncanny valley videgame look seems to be more pronounced with content that is shot on newer hd cameras.
What do you mean exactly? What aspect of the image are you talking about in this case?
I first noticed it with Ashoka. I would go over and watch it at my friends house. He has a really shitty basic entry level flat screen tv. And everything would look fake. But then on watching...I think it was episode 4. The one where she has the duel with Bailin. I first watched it at my friends house then wen't home and watched it again on my high end 70" Sony XBR. It was like night and day. Almost like a totally different shoe. That episode with the duel looked pretty fricking amazing. So I went back and watched the other episodes and I noticed the same thing.
So this time when I went over to his house to watch Rebel Moon I was expecting it. Yep it looked like a videogame. But then I rewatched it again today on my high end Sony the movie looks fricking amazing. Like a totally different movie. Even the acting is better. Especially with Ed Skrien. Dude is fricking killing it in this movie.
What are you talking about exactly? Motion interpolation?
What I am talking about is explained at the bottom of this tldr here
Then just tell your moron friend to turn the motion interpolation off.
I tried to turn it off. But it seems to just have this built in shitty image post processing automatically that won't go away even when you turn it off. Its a newer television. But its an entry level and it probably has a Z grade chip in it humming away processing evey image. I suspect its the same problem with a lot of newer cheap tv's that have shitty processors to save money.
But then the post processing seems to be more pronounced with these newer streaming shows like Ashoka and Rebel Moon that are shot on the latest digital cameras. It can look really good on the right tv but if its not the right tv its going to look like shit. Its like a shitty music master that only sounds good on a high end audio setup but sounds like shit on your clock radio. Really good audio masters sound good everywhere. Even on shitty equipment. I suspect its the same thing with these newer digital video content masters where they haven't mastered it for low end equipment.
Some brands/models will have multiple settings associated with "enhancing" moving images.
>I tried to turn it off. But it seems to just have this built in shitty image post processing automatically that won't go away even when you turn it off.
I'm guessing you just didn't find the setting since all manufacturers have a different name for it. Would be easy to figure out knowing the type and model of the TV
>But then the post processing seems to be more pronounced with these newer streaming shows like Ashoka and Rebel Moon that are shot on the latest digital cameras.
That makes zero sense. They're just video files being streamed. They don't include some magic data that enables the TV to do more post-processing.
The cameras used have absolutely nothing to do with the post-processing. It's an entirely separate thing. Any video can be post-processed in awful ways no matter what camera it was captured on. Film or digital. And these large scale productions are shot as RAW video data anyway.
You just don't get it. It's the TV's fault that Snyder's movie is garbage.
I explained it all in my posts here
Then why the frick did you blabber about the "latest digital cameras" like you have no fricking idea what you're talking about
>I explained it all in my posts here
Some of those greentexts are mine from the previous thread kek.
Also, I repeat, motion interpolation can be turned off. All TV manufacturers allow it to be turned off. There are no exceptions.
No, you don't understand. The movie is great if you watch it on a specially calibrated snydervision set that you need to jailbreak to unlock Zack's true vision.
You also need to wait not for the Snyder cut, but for the ultimate Snyder cut that is going to come out years down the line in 16K
Here's a problem for you. I don't have a shitty cheap flatscreen with motion smoothing on. I'm not a normie using whatever crap is on sale at the nearest electronics store after Christmas. I have a high end TV, configured correct. And it still looked like crap.
bro pls
maybe Snyder should now sell tvs to tools like you to watch his snyder cut on a snyder tv in snyder vision
I'm sure you can get his kegel and plug set too
I watched it on my computer, absolute no post processing and best way possible to handle digital. Still shit
Its resident evil tier. Bad on all levels, but hot main character and a fun time
>hot main character
no, are you moronic?
>fun time
same question as above.
but seriously, what about this shit was fun to you? the characters barely do anything and the few action scenes are just random mooks shooting at each other while the main characters stand in open fields and magically don't get hit.
I liked the shitty 40k knockoff and the locations were interesting enough, it wasnt too long either.
As for the main character, if you dont like sweaty tomboys anon, then we really have nothing further to talk about
>sweaty tomboys
Boutella literally looks like a troony. man-faced b***h with no feminine features whatsoever.
This shit is so ass, I desperately wanted this shit to not be ass. They just ape 40k and Jupiter Ascending for 2 hours.
It is set in a fictional galaxy ruled by the Motherworld, whose military, the Imperium, threatens a farming colony on the moon Veldt. Kora, a former Imperium soldier, ventures on a quest to recruit warriors from across the galaxy to make a stand against the Imperium before they return to Veldt.
This sounds familiar, Luke
HOLY FRICK HE LITERALLY WHOLESALE STOLE THE HIPPOGRIFF FROM HARRY POTTER
AHAHAHAHHHHAAHAHAH
Snyder sissies
your response?
The best part is the effects AND music are inferior to that of Potter's, a twenty year old movie.
>silly anon prisoner of azkaban came out in 2004 only 10 years ag-
why have you done this to me...
Anything on Netflix is pretty much guaranteed to be shit, so you're wrong.
1 hour in
i am immensely bored
:F
If you took every popular fantasy/space opera flick of the last 30 years, a few comic books like Saga, fed them into a low-grade AI program and told it to "make a modern Battle Beyond the Stars, but diverse", it would shit out something really really close to Rebel Moon.
zack snyder sure does love shirtless muscle men.
his selfinsert is that farmhand cuckboi that just tags along with all the spaceroids and gawks at them and wants to bring them home to his cuckshed
rip where?
On pretty much any movie torrent site
I've been telling you that 60fps is the bane of cinema. If only Mr Snyder made his movie in 24fps his shots wouldn't look like little kid dioramas with two-dimensional characters. 24fps adds more depth to the characters, story and background detail, which in this case is exquisitely crafted from fine corinthian space leather.
>If only Mr Snyder made his movie in 24fps
He did
>he thinks it was shot in 60fps because there is so much slowmo the normal scenes look like double the normal frame rate
It was shot entirely in slowmo and then sped up to 4x-8x so you're basically speedwatching it on normal. Also the soft-focus effect is because each of your eyes can only see 30fps so he cleverly interpolated them so it appears to be 60fps and slightly 3d, like the 3ds. He's way ahead of everyone in the industry, except maybe Cameron.
I'm sure he also believes the film was crafted from fine Corinthian leather also anon
Snyder's zombie movie was a complete abomination, is this any better?
That movie was a cinematic masterpiece compared to this.
God almighty
It has the exact same shallow depth of field everywhere. It's awful.
space 7 samurai but bad
hopkins bot and the young non rapist soldier make up the last 2
literally all the characters from the film are just transposed, or in some cases trans'd
Kyuzo is now NEMESIS for example
The movie was good, fun action adventure. Better than anything Hollywood pumps out into theaters nowadays. I enjoyed it and already watched it 2 times. 7.5/10
>already watched it 2 times
Only 2 times? Come now anon, everyone knows you have to view Snyder films for at least 100 hours before they start getting good
Hideously bad. The kind of shit show that ends careers
Nah, It's fine. Better than rian starwars, or JJ's ep 9, or taika's last thor.
Not the best movie but to pretend its some massive trainwreck is dishonest.
>JJ's ep 9, or taika's last thor.
Wow, better than two notoriously terrible movies hated even by fans of the two directors' previous films in those franchises? What high praise.
Zack Snyder needs to be publicly executed
I could barely sit through the first half an hour.
>generic village
>generic space nazis
>generic cantina scene
there were no generic gay Black folk from outer space?
>Noooo you can't loosely copy character styles from other movies that copied their character styles from somewhere else!!!
>loosely
nooo you can't do laser swords! only yidsney can do that!
>Asimov introduced the idea of an energy blade in the short story The Traders. Published in the October 1944
kys
This is literally a Star Wars treatment Snyder proposed to Lucasfilm 12 or 13 years back, that they passed on, he reworked it to be his own serial numbers filed off universe. He is open about this. Who are you trying to kid?
Nobody, but your kidding yourself if you think this is any sort of plagiarism, especially if you want to bring up starwars, which was made in the exact same way (borrowing cool shit from other people and mashing it all into a space opera).
It isn't 1976. You can't pretend Star Wars doesn't exist. It doesn't matter if Star Wars was a pastiche of Republic serials and Japanese movies. It has subsumed those sources. If you have a Star Wars project you propose to Lucasfilm, then rework into your own universe, but keep a character having glowing swords that cut through anything, they are going to be compared to lightsabers.
>they are going to be compared to lightsabers.
ok...
Here's your comparison bro, rebel moon is clearly doing it better.
Oh so they are lightsabers now? Not obscure references to Asimov?
call them what you want, those in rebel moon are better imo
The part where Dreaded Jamal sacrificed himself and then Private Non-binary reacted with a scream was moronicly hilarious.
I barely even knew who the black guy was, he only had one scene before the showdown, but apparently I was supposed to react like it was Obi-Wan being cut down, and the buzzcut girl who had one line before that.
Why does it seem like scenes and their transitions are rushed in most commercial films? I want films to have a gradual flow to them and let a scene have enough breathing time before it cuts to the next one.
I don't think I've seen a single person who dislikes it who didn't clearly hate it long before they watched it
>at least we’ll get a cool war scene where the farmers get slaughtered but thanks to the heroes manage to miraculously win against the empire right? After all robot and the cuck soldier still barely did anything in the first act!
>Snyder: “Lol, LMAO”
>le heckin diverse cast
>strong wahman of color protagonist
>White man bad
>CGI slop overload
>hack snyder directing
>produced by goyflix
No thanks
Literally the first Snyder I liked
there's some clear pulp influences, but I still believe heavy metal is the main influence after star wars. I didn't like the pace, the movie needed to be longer. when is the R cur coming? also I want to frick a spider
I have ONLY ever seen a fan edit of John Carpenter, and it was quite good. Had no interest in watching the real edit after that, because it sounded like shit by comparison.
>Carpenter
It really isn't. It's pretty corny. And why was Noble dressed like a Nazi despite nobody else dressing even close to that? Kinda on the nose innit? I'll still watch the Director's cut though.
Anyone have the interview where Snyder thrashes Ahsoka? Thanks.
No it isn't.
I can't believe they did a "bad guy promises to set idiot free if he tells them all he knows, then shock, he kills them afterwards instead" scene. Played completely straight like it's a surprise.
I don't care about muh whites/POCs shit.
What I do care about is the atrocious camerawork, limp action poorly disguised with constant slo-mo, nonexistent character development and incredibly unoriginal settings.
I like how the spider monster who died in the same scene she was introduced was given more establishment and development in that scene than the actual person they were recruiting was.
The resemblance was uncanny.
AUSTRIA? WELL, GDAY MATE
Wow Snyder even copied the CPR scene
so she is going to learn to ride the gryphon in the next movie
like this spoilerous poster ?
>John Carter
The books or the movie?
No. Those films at least had something memorable about them. Rebel Moon was really fricking boring. Like someone decided to remake Seven Samurai without understanding what made it good. But Cinemaphile loves their Snyderslop I guess.
I like it in concept but not really in execution.
The characters are completely non existent, the plot moves too fast to get to the end. It feels like it was a movie that was made from a bunch of cut up episodes of some miniseries or something.
I like the set design though
The cutting and obvious skips in narrative is a little jarring, especially once they leave the first planet. But after reading the endless kvetching and seething here for two days before watching it, I was pleasantly surprised by how little it bothered me. I was expecting a total clusterfrick shitshow like Suckerpunch but wound up enjoying it more than maybe any of his other films besides maybe 300 on first watch. It helps casting an extremely frickable lead actress who isn’t spiritually and psychologically repulsive like Brie Larson. If this is the shitty cut, the R rated extended cut is going to be absolute kino.
Why do you keep saying the same things over and over?
I think it would work much better as a miniseries, we could take the time to know the characters and maybe see some more adventures, this way we get like three minutes to show each new character and then they get shunted off to the background.
Like that prince dude who can talk to animals or whatever, that's shown once and then he gets like three lines of dialogue in the entire rest of the movie.
>better as a miniseries
Couldn’t agree more. It’s very clear there’s a tremendous amount of context cut out. I have a feeling the full cut will be a similar improvement from Whedons Justice League to the Snyder cut. But at this point in current year soulless Hollywood goyslop, I’ll take what we can get.
>I have a feeling the full cut will be a similar improvement from Whedons Justice League to the Snyder cut
That's literally a different movie. This at best is going to be BvS's ultimate edition, where the plot is a little less scattershot and sliced up, but it didn't fix BvS's fundamental problems of an awful and pretentious script and a dire third act. It won't fix this movie's central problems of ugly camerawork, bad acting and a deeply unoriginal fantasy world. In fact Snyder's claimed that besides the added violence and nudity, which were pretty obvious where they were missing, the extended cut won't even be focused on Kora the protagonist, it'll be adding in lots of scenes focused on the bad guy, the Regent. Which isn't what the movie needs, it needs its cast of characters to not be flat cardboard cutouts of concept art. The robot that was only at the start and end got more developmental than Kora's entire band of warriors. The spider monster that died in the same scene it was introduced got more development than the warrior they were recruiting in that scene.
After the final skirmish there was a big CG looking hero shot of all the surviving band lined up, exactly like his Justice League shot at the end of ZSJL, only...I don't give a shit about any of these people, so it falls hilariously flat. I don't even know half their names. It actually reminds me of Legend of the Guardians, another Snyder film that felt like it was missing half a movie in the runtime, there was a scene before the climax where they had a "you've come so far together, heroes!" scene where the group reaffirms their unity, but half of the group showed up like a scene or two earlier, it was like we missed an entire adventure with all these characters between scenes, and the movie just informed us instead that apparently they're a close knit group now.
No second view for me. I’m not here to beta test snyder’s shitty movies
It was fricking kino. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. The final act is the weakest part, but still more entertaining and more soul that anything Disney or WB have made in years. Can’t wait to see this fricker deliver the uncut version. And where the frick is the 2160p HDR copy? Did israeliteflix really only stream this masterpiece in 1080p?
>please shit in my mouth more Zack, I'll swallow it all
>seething low test histrionic israelite
Filtered
>big rusty iron swords glowing red when heated up
>MUH STARS WARS
god this board is full of literal morons
It's literally a Star Wars project he repurposed
and those are still red hot metal swords
and it's a million times better than last jedi
These replies make no sense in the context of this argument and yet are identical.
but you don't have an argument.
>b-b-b-b-ut itsa repurposed star wars project
nobody cares homosexual
>This is a copy of a lightsaber
>nuh-uh! it's a hot saber!
>The film is a repurposed Star Wars project, it's a copy of a lightsaber
>I DON'T LIKE STAR WARS! DISNEY!
Did you just see the words "Star Wars" in a post and have some sort of automatic reaction. Your reply makes zero sense. It has nothing to do with anything.
They’re turbo NPC’s. like every critic, and the 6 boosters are probably ripping holes through their blood brain barrier.
>star wars fanboy
>not an NPC
>not eightuple-vaxxed
lmao wtf am i reading
Why do you keep talking about Star Wars fandom? Are you moronic? Is engaging in limp surface level console wars all you are able to do?
because that's the discussion you brought up? moron?
I didn't bring up "Do you like Star Wars or do you like Rebel Moon". Your preference is not relevant. The point of discussion is whether or not those not-lightsabers are copied from lightsabers or not. What does "I don't like Star Wars film!" have to do with that discussion?
Or is it you believe all things exist in some sort of perpetual console war and you must not "surrender" a point to the other console, even if it has nothing to do with quality or preference?
>bring up basedwars and say the two movies are comparable
>people compare them
>nooo not like that!!
you don't have a point.
You didn't compare anything. You just replied to a specific argument going "BETTER THAN LAST JEDI!!!" which has nothing to do with anything. The point being discussed is "are those glowing sci-fi swords that cut through anything copied from lightsabers?". Your opinion of a Star Wars movie is not relevant. And the answer is yes, because this is literally a repurposed Star Wars project Snyder proposed, and those swords would have been lightsabers originally.
but Lucas didn't invent the idea and they don't look alike, they dont seem to function alike, so what exactly is your point?
Maybe snyder would've adapted his script to fit goywars and not the other way around, ever think of that?
>Director Zack Snyder has been dreaming up a film like Rebel Moon for nearly 40 years. In a lengthy The Hollywood Reporter profile on the director, Snyder revealed that he first envisioned the upcoming Netflix film's sci-fi concept in the 1980s while attending film school.
uh oh..
>but Lucas didn't invent the idea and they don't look alike, they dont seem to function alike
Glowing swords that are hot and cut through everything are not alike? In a repurposed Star Wars project? What do you suppose the glowing swords that are hot and cut through everything would have been in Snyder's proposed Star Wars project had that been made?
but even if they are copied, which they aren't, they are better done in rebel moon so what is your point?
That the movie is already full of nearly 1:1 copies of various movies and shows Snyder has seen, and having not-lightsabers left over from his Star Wars project is obnoxiously on the nose even by Snyder's standards.
They are copies though. Like really blatantly.
>copies
More like improvements. What’s the problem here? Do I need to take estrogen to understand this?
So you want to deny they are copied like so much else in the film is copied, but also want to call them supposedly better versions?
are spaceships also "blatantly" copied from starwars, because they fly in space in a similar fashion?
Ah yes, the glowing saber that's hot and cuts through anything, in a project that was originally proposed to Lucasfilm as a Star Wars film, clearly that is as broad and nonspecific as "spaceships that move".
it is though.
It's really not.
Zack Snyder has been dreaming up a film like Rebel Moon for nearly 40 years. In a lengthy The Hollywood Reporter profile on the director, Snyder revealed that he first envisioned the upcoming Netflix film's sci-fi concept in the 1980s while attending film school.
And when exactly was Star Wars released again?
>Trust me bro, he had the idea in the 1980s, he said so, in fact he doesn't even know what Star Wars is, he's from Mars. He's never even heard of Star Wars. Snyder hasn't seen Star Wars. Is that even real? Star Wars sounds made up, I reckon Zack Snyder invented lightsabers back sci-fi in the 1980s
They are marketing this like Star Wars for adults but it’s obviously a blatant rip-off of 40k without space marines and nowhere near as edgy. I’ll laugh for days once Games Workshop announces the (merited) lawsuit
>Regent Balisarius
>Belisarius Cawl
>Imperium
>Mechanicus Militarum
>other random tidbits of Latin thrown around
How did he get away with it?
I honestly don’t think he will. I think Netflix have boomer lawyers who think 40k=space marines and gave it a green light. Meanwhile rogue trader just came out, the internet is obsessed with GW shit, and GW is notoriously ultra litigious of their IP
The main character is pretty much a battle sister and carries a bolter. The imperium in this movie has had their ideology warped after the death of their leader who they constantly pray to. Also the bad guy is a commissar. Just slap a 40k logo in the corner and the casual viewer would be completely fooled. It absolutely passes the threshold of IP breach
The worst possible cut of this thing is better than anything Yidsney has made since acquiring LucasFilm. They must be seething worse than the israelites and trannies in this thread.
yes and its better than star wars. yidsney really fricked up.
The kvetching here reads like emotionally incontinent israelites on Twitter crying about Hamas. I thought Snyder is israeli, is he a gentile? Would explain everything.
yes yes you really hate snyder, why is that again?
it's what the new star wars should of been.This movie is not for zoomers.
Armond, once again, truly is our gay Black person. He just doesn’t miss.
>no quips
>literally didn't laugh once
Where are my fricking jokes, Hacknyder?
I have no problem with a film being serious. But a film that's self-serious, I do. Now, how do you walk the line between self-serious and serious? I don't know, I'm not the filmmaker. But it's like pornography, I know it when I see it, and I this movie was self-serious. Self-serious out the ass. I'm not asking for jokes. Just to remove the movie's head from its ass.
I saw a clip, and there was slo-mo in the first five seconds.
Why does Snyder love slo-mo so goddamn much?
Every second of slo-mo is one fewer second he has to spend on creating content.
Snyder has no confidence in his action scenes nor does he have the talent to convey depth in character interactions so this is the obvious end result. It’s a near 2.5 hour movie with no plot, no character development, no cinematography, and garbage action. But hey, lots of walking around and slow-mo
>hated every single Snyder movie ever made
>wanted to kill myself during his justice league
>had to stop BvS halfway through
>absolutely loved Rebel Moon
what happened?
Did you recently suffer from a traumatic brain injury by any chance?
Dawn of the dead, 300, and watchmen are the only good Snyder films. Steep quality drop after this
Trying to speed run through this thread before the troony mods shut it down. Are movies not allowed to have laser weapons either because Star Wars did it first? I don’t get the criticism of the laser swords. Out of all the problems in the narrative and characterization, this is what the israelites and trannies are seething over?
It seems more like Snyder fans are seething over them being called out as being lifted from Star Wars. They're not being singled out as the reason the movie is bad. Merely an example of how deeply unoriginal the film is, not just in its world, but its story, scenes, even designs. But there's some fans who won't accept the example, they're adamant in this repurposed Star Wars project, the lightsabers are not lightsabers and definitely have nothing to do with lightsabers. As if the film is not FULL of ripoffs from other films. That's just one.
Why does Snyder have this cult of morons obsessed with his mediocre shit? He made 3 good movies the last of which came out over a decade ago. Is this bots? ESLs who lack the cultural nuance to detect how bad his work is?
Contrarianism directly tied to the rise of the MCU during the 2010s.
No. It's literally just two or three morons arguing back and forth.