It's impossible to criticize them because their fans refuse to believe that they could do any wrong.
Most of their reviews lack any substance or significant editing work and are just describing what occurs in the film; however, that's charitable. Typically, how it goes is Mike will say "There's this shot..." and then the shot is shown while he narrates it, and he simply describes the composition of the shot wiithout adding to what can be clearly seen. Or, worse, a clip will play uninterrupted, without any commentary, and then as it ends Jay will say "You can tell..." and then provide a literal interpretation of a scene without establishing wider context, usually in a snarky tone. In the case of their guests, not including but especially with Rich, it's simply talking about the events of the film, shouting or laughing about something odd that happens (usually for exaggerative effect) and then showing the clip to drive home how funny/weird/offputting it is. Many see this as relaxed or comfy but then why are these videos presented as reviews or even critiques? If anything, they're podcasts, hence the sets and slight production values, but the actual content of what's being discussed is barely additive to the movies they showcase.
Above all else the language and constant use of "You have to..." or "It's sort of like..." makes these reviews far from digestible. Telling the viewer how to consume media based off a single casual viewing, or using references in place of actual comparison, means they can 'cheat' any media they discuss and both appear authoritative while also seeming relatable, like two random dudes who simply happen to know a lot about film.
I can't in good faith recommend anything they've done, it's entertaining but it's also navelgazing. And before I get a reply saying "Just watch Re:View!" Those are worse, more like a game of trying to remember a lost memory instead of a real retrospective.
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Their fans are their biggest critics thobeit.
Ecelebs are cancer tho
I think they’re great because they don’t interact with their audience and just keep making the same shit they want to, respect
Yeah as far as parasocial homosexual fanbases go, you could do A LOT worse than RLM fans.
>I can't in good faith recommend anything they've done
I can: Space Cop
also, checked
triple checked
They have been wrong about some of their reviews plenty of times, sometimes out of willfull ignorance.
But they always opt to tell the truth, which I appreciate. Doesn't mean I'm going to agree with them all the time.
>They have been wrong about some of their reviews plenty of times, sometimes out of willfull ignorance.
That's not how reviews work, you offer an opinion and then justify it. Being wrong doesn't mean disagreeing with you, you moronic sperg.
>That's not how reviews work, you offer an opinion and then justify it.
Review doesn't have to be just an opinion. You can also apply objective criteria when you make criticism, and most critics mix the two. If you say "The film has bad audio mixing that makes it hard to hear what the characters say over the soundtrack", that is an objective criticism of a movie, assuming that it is true. If on the other hand you say: "the movie was bad because X didn't make sense and they didn't explain it", but the film actually did explain X and the critic simply missed the explanation because they took a bathroom break, then that criticism is objectively wrong.
>Review doesn't have to be just an opinion.
That's exactly what a review is, no amount of mental gymnastics is going to change that. It's intended to be an informed opinion, and there are reviews for things other than movies, too!
No, frick off. If I review Rebel Moon and say: "shit is blurry as frick, everything is out of focus", that's not an opinion, it's a fricking fact.
That's just part of the review, surely you had opinions about other aspects of the movie. Why are you compartmentalizing your argument as if that's gonna help your case? Use a fricking dictionary and stop wasting people's time, you smarmy twat.
If a review contains factual, objective statements on the quality of the film, then it's not "just an opinion", comprehende? It may have parts that could be considered an opinion, but that is purely optional on the part of the reviewer. One could easily make a purely objective, technical review of a film and it would still be a review despite having no opinions in it.
Jack is the best RLM member
AIDSmoby being so despised that people say they like him for free (you)s is made even funnier by the fact that he knows about it.
aidsmoby is great in the star wars halloween special.
culkin>freddie>aidsmoby>tim>josh>their other Hollywood rejects
only if he's been drinking.
afaik he's the only one who managed to reproduce
He is also the gun nut of the group which is based.
Why do people hate him? They all seem completely interchangeable to me outside Jay Rich and Mike.
He's sort of dorky and cringe, which is slightly more tolerable that josh who is arrogant and cringe. Both fall into the "reddit" category a bit too much for Cinemaphiles liking.
you only dislike them because they’re bald
beardfat is good on re:views but terrible at reacting to things
Josh bothers me with his line delivery.
I mostly like him but he has this weird matter of fact way of saying things.
Example:
"You know who Meredith monk is?"
Normal person: "Yeah, she is a composer."
"You know who Meredith Monk is?"
Josh: "shesacomposer!"
Tbh he grew on me. I thought he was annoying at first and now he seems like a fun dude, his laugh gets me every time
Aidsmoby is really inconsistent, sometimes he's easily the funniest one in the episode and others he's horribly insufferable
>days without seething about fat balding midwesterners = 0
Jay's hair is immaculate.
Mike posts in these threads and that will never not be funny
What are you even trying to convey with this?
RLM was wrong about Stuckmann, no one else thinks hes a prick and now Stuckmann is in Hollywood
They never even mentioned him.
Yes they did you moron. Have you not been paying attention?
>Everyone is Chris
Delusional dude
Not once, this is a made up feud you've built in your head. You sound chemically imbalanced.
You're a scumrat if you blindly believe whatever RLM tell you to believe
They never said anything about the guy. Are you fricking stupid?
Shit up, Stuckmann
Stuckmann would never browse or post on Cinemaphile, his fragile manbaby ego could not handle it. I mean fricking hell, he had a full-blown meltdown over being casually dissed in a RLM video, imagine his reaction to reading some of the shit here with his "any and all criticism is evil and bad" attitude.
Thats a rude assumption. Chris wouldnt post here because we judt arent his type of community
I honestly thought that was JJ Abrams and this was about nu-wars.
Chris Stuckmann > RLM
Unironically yes. Chris actually learned from criticism even though it was a painful process, Mike and Jay just delved deeper into their safespace of irony and nomedy.
Where should I start with him?
Does anyone do it better at this point? Gimme some recs need some good film shows/podcasts
Chris Stuckmann
>Chris Stuckmann
the frick? this game sounds like an absolute homosexual
Don't use that terminology
Hes pansexual
https://www.queerty.com/popular-youtuber-chris-stuckmann-comes-reveals-harrowing-past-jehovahs-witnesses-20210117
chris stuckmann. whats great about him is the fact that he's an actual filmmaker
>Shelby Oaks
>budget 2 million
>box office 50 million
>propells Stuckmann to Hollywood status
>he gets given 5 million dollars and can do whatever he wants for his second film
>makes another horror kino to really practice his craft of kino
>box office smash
>now for his third film he literally has the power to ask for a A-lister like a Jake Gyllenhaal, Chris Hemsworth or Mark Tuffalo, doesn't mean they have to agree, but he'll be in a position to ask the studio to hire them
We live in a timeline where its actually possible that /ourguy/, Mr Stuckmann, could be making kinos with Brad Pitt one day, if everything goes well with Shelby Oaks.
Anyone is better than those morons at RLM.
My go - to is Chris Stuckmann
Hey Stuckmann, is this a recent photo of you?
What the actual hell dude. I'm not Chris anyways. You hate him for no reason
This is just the same jerkoff replying to himself, isn't it?
Yeo. That’s why I’m replying to myself now.
That's the thing, even though these guys are clearly in decline, there really isn't any alternative that comes close. There are a million other YouTube movie critics, but they are don't have the friend simulator element or are either cringe, incompetent or watch boring shit. Rolfe's crew tried it but I'm not going to watch morbidly obese slobs giving basic takes on movies everyone has watched.
Theres gotta be a few that are pretty good, it cant just be them
I've looked around and everything I've found is typically just some dude rambling in a static background giving either lukewarm takes or ""hot"" takes. Just doesn't scratch that itch compared to 4 dudes bantering about shitty b movies. I'm open to suggestions though but I'm not watching dumb shit like critical drinker.
You want a good podcast?
He's got the best one.
Too everyone who replied to my post about other show recs with Stuckman, thank you for making sure I never give that homosexual once second of my time. I'll try again
any actual recs?
Mauler, Little Platoon (gay)
>Most of their reviews lack any substance or significant editing work
Why would a review need to be edited? I think you're just throwing random words in there.
They're funny sometimes and lame others. They're better than 99% of ecelebs because they put money they make into their sets and studies.
These guys made Space Cop, they're clowns and that's it.
crazy how bad that turned out
I feel bad for Jay, you can tell he's got SOME talent but Mike is too insecure and will shroud everything in irony to protect himself against criticism, the same way Rolan Emmerich shrouded Godzilla in rain to hide the shitty CGI
The one thing that bugs me is how Jay correctly point out that movies made intentionally bad are a slog (Sharknado or anything wise did after the room) but then also made space cop, which is a prime example of that.
Lmao imagine being so butthurt sbout a YouTube channel that you're willing to write this wall of text
Tldr, homosexual
spot-on analysis - simply going over the plot development is not reviewing a movie
also - they stay away from non-mainstream movies because they know it'll show how shallow they are in their criticism
still quite entertaining from time to time when you know who you're dealing with
Based Redlettermedia STILL making the autistic incels of Cinemaphile seethe.
They’ve been passionless for years
Space Cop broke them just like the AVGN movie broke him. Not many 'Tubers have survived their movie.
physiognomy check?
Mike Stoklasa is a gay fat hack.
>It's impossible to criticize them because their fans refuse to believe that they could do any wrong.
That’s every youtuber ever. Once a youtuber becomes famous, their fanbase eats up everything they do and defends their slop no matter what.
HAHAHAHA
RLM cant even get 100 replies in a thread
But the Stuckmann thread is huge
their stuff just seems incredibly low effort now
Cinemaphile is a BlameSociety board.
I blame the schools.
>criticize them
They make goofy shitpost videos that are usually good for a few laughs and release them for free.
>It's impossible to criticize them because their fans
Oh, so,
>I live in constant fear of what OTHER PEOPLE think and I cannot form my own opinions.
you're a child; got it!
Fatty cheeto-dust-covered lighstaber-wielding hands typed this post.
Nu-ghostbuster 2 is okay and 3 is complete trash. They are right about everything else.
I've never watched any videos of theirs but one dude is fat and depressed and the other guy is a weird gay. Together they made the shittiest movie imaginable, idk why they have a huge fanbase
I like when they goof on shitty movies and weird vhs era kitsch. What the frick else am I gonna watch? Netflix?
We all collectively did the same kind of coping zoomers do
>I was mildly entertained by the fast stuff and noises so I'll just try not think about how dumb and pointless it all was
Plinkett autistically focused on the dumb shit and it was more entertaining than the actual movies at the time. Now it's not fresh anymore since everyone is a moronic homosexual like Plinkett irl. Sincerely enjoying whatever you can is more cool and fresh.
In the old days autistic people used to be eccentric funny weirdos, now they are unfunny attention prostitutes that shouldn't be allowed around computers. How do we stop spammers like OP without killing them?
bumping whats a good show thats not them?
Stuckman is a literal homosexual
Nostalgia Critic
There, isn't unfortunately. I'd love to know but like I said
there literally aren't. I wish I had friends and I'd start up something like this because I love b movies and film. Seeing Rolfe's slob crew attempt was embarrassing.
checked, Almost Cult Classics is pretty good but yeah its tough to find people who can do what youre saying
Didn't read but a few episodes ago they admitted to never have watched Raging Bull. These guys are not masters of film. One only watched TV and Star Trek and the other only watches horror movies. And Rich would rather play video games. You don't have to agree with their opinions, it's just fun watching people talk about movies even if they're wrong or ignorant.
>this thread is still up while the thread shitting on le longman was jannie'd
you troons are obvious
Cinemaphile is 2 things:
(1)Ads disguised as """discussion""" (see the Fallout 4 spam)
(2)Honeypot for intelligence agencies
Everything else gets in the way of (1) or (2)
ENDLESS TRASH
RedLetterMedia: Cinema Sins
Their biggest crime is they became what they despised... "SELL OUT SCHNOOKS". The audience continues to follow, the money remains easy and a better choice that physical labor, and even worse, the audience forgives them their aberrations because it introduces novelty.
South Park - Randy Suffers From Sarcasm
Randy: "Help me Sharon. Help me!"
In short, they lucked and skilled their way into a niche they EXCELL AT EXTREMELY, but it's rotting their soul and destroying their sanity and the money is too damned easy and good. YET THEY ARE TRAPPED IN A THING THAT *WAS FUN* BUT IS BECOMING A HELL.
Imagine being a quality control guy for an ice cream factory, YUM! Until it isn't yummy. Until every day the taste of ice cream is a slow growing hell and you have nightmares. But you're absolutely superb at your job, an expert or experts. The best in the business.
Imagine you're Jim Davis, propelled to success by a cartoon cat. YAY! The money is great, but the SYNDICATE won't let you rest or go anywhere else. Now you're a lifetime prisoner of an imaginary cat you invented, daily churning out unfunny 3 panel comics for dying newspapers for 45+ years. But you're a celebrated cartoonist... UH HUH, WELCOME TO SLOW HELL...
Moral of the story? NEVER TRY!
Oglaf summed it up best.
"SQUANDER YOUR TALENT? UNTHINKABLE!"
https://www.oglaf.com/gifted/
F**k You, It's January!
The work was too profitable, the fanbase too compliant, the memes too contagious.
MST3K: When Did Hell Begin for You?
https://www.quotes.net/show-quote/55118#google_vignette
Servo:
[patronizingly] Um, no, Joel, I can't say that I did, heh-heh [aside to Crow] Koo-koo! Koo-koo!
Joel:
I'm serious, you guys! There was a time that we as a nation took pride in our service stations! They gleamed like a beacon of hope from coast to coast. Then one day: kablooey! Sky Chief super service turned into the Tank 'n' Tummy. I don't mind tellin' ya, the day this country went self-serve is the day that Hell started to bubble over and flood the earth.
Crow:
I hate to burst your bubble, Joel, but what about the bubonic plague? World Wars? Stalin?
Joel:
Well, those are all big things. Hell works best when it's a lot subtler. Let me give you an example: Okay, what do you think of Adolf Hitler?
Crow:
Well, I hate him, naturally.
Joel:
Okay, now what do you think of the band Styx?
Crow:
Well, they had a couple of decent... [realization sets in] Oh, my God, you're right!
Servo:
I get it now, Joel! You know, I don't know exactly when Hell started for me, but I think it had something to do with Christopher Cross.
Joel:
Yeah, and remember the time Charlie Weaver died, and it wasn't even in the papers?
Crow:
Or when they 86'd Jarts!
Servo:
I think the first time Flo said "Kiss my grits!", something in all of us withered and died!
Crow:
Using Joe Camel to sell cigarettes to kids seems like a pretty ripe slice of Hell.
Joel:
Yeah, I agree with that. And how about the time Denis Leary released No Cure For Cancer as an album, or when Vicki Lawrence won a Grammy for "The Night The Lights Went Out in Georgia"?
Prequeers getting uppity again, I see.
I like the ones with the home alone guy
They’re entertaining at times but I don’t really care about opinions of people I don’t know.