It's kinda hard to recruit for the rebel alliance when the latest Empire toy needs about a whole system to manage it.
And it still gets blown up like nothing. Same with their dreadnaughts. How many people are aboard these things?
It's kinda hard to recruit for the rebel alliance when the latest Empire toy needs about a whole system to manage it.
I don't understand your point.
Are you saying that it would be hard to recruit for the rebellion because everyone should know that the Empire is making a Death Star? If that's your point then why did you immediately undercut it with pointing out that it was blown up immediately? Surely having everyone know that the Empire made a superweapon and then finding out some rebels immediately blew it up would drive up recruitment, right?
Yeah, it's hard finding people for the rebellion because they're all working jobs on the so many Empire toys. And then the rebels blow them up, so all gone. And I wonder how many people are working for the empire just to get their bills paid.
They're always cheering as if everyone has the luxury of choice.
How the frick did this fringe organization have the resources to build starkiller base
Abrams is a hack
looks fricking cool though, despite that it feels like it should be impossible to build with the scope and restrictions of an active core alone
No it doesn't. Ridiculously grandiose shit looks like garbage because it loses any sense of scale and realism and practicality making it totally irrelevant cartoon nonsense. All it does is destroy suspension of disbelief, which is why when Starkiller base is mentioned the question always immediately arises of how the first order was able to build such a thing when it's already been established that building a small moon sized super weapon requires the massed resources of a galaxy spanning empire. Why didn't the first order just build a million star killer bases? There's no plausible reason why they couldn't given the lack of logic introducing just one into the setting created. One not build a galaxy sized starkiller base? It's just as a realistic given that JarJar destroyed sense of scale.
The more Star Wars movies they make the more one should realise that the Empire did nothing wrong
All the movies beyond the original trilogy did is make me think the Jedi are scum who deserved to die
The Republic does not encompass the whole galaxy, and even so, Pre-Empire Republic is not as large as Post-Empire Republic. Many warlords from the fallen Empire held on to large sectors so they were able to continue to control a decent portion of the galaxy. The Republic just let them be, while a off-the-books rebel alliance fought them.
That is never said in any way in the movie
Oops i flipped it accidentally
post empire republic is smaller.
It doesn't need to be explicitly said in the movie. If you encompass other lore Ilum was a Jedi planet during the late republic and clearly is owned under the first order during the new republic. Also, >The Mandalorian
Pretty clearly explains that there.
The Galaxy is full of different governments, it's just that the Republic (or empire) were the largest.
>If you encompass other lore
>EUshit
They were so allergic to space politics they left it to the visual guide to tell us the significance of the planet that blew up. I've always wondered if they actually had production notes on that stuff or if they made someone backfill for JJ's plot caverns.
What makes me laugh is that ANH, the movie it shamelessly rips off, managed to explain the state of the galaxy in 3 scenes, all of which advanced the plot.
Leia's capture and Tarkin's introduction both get across the political landscape, and Obi-Wan tells you about the spiritual one. It's incredibly efficient and something that TFA utterly lacks.
It was backfill, yes. Abrams mentioned that he had no input in the visual guide, and it had nothing to do with the story he envisioned.
its explained in the comics, animated show, books, games
The only explanation is "the Empire was already building it before lol".
No.
It doesn’t. In fact, it’s even worse in the NuEU, because operation Cinder happens.
Palpatine has a dead man switch that broadcasts a message literally telling the remaining officials to kill urself and the empire lmao and most of them actually do it.
>it's explained in extra bullshit after the fact that most of the audience will never know about let alone read
weak
>dude, what if it was the death star, but 1000x bigger!!
The planet was stripmined by Palpatine for the kyber crystals to fuel the death stars, so half the work was already done. Abrams is still a hack, however.
>how did our enemie we defeated get new forces and weapons out of nowhere?
>should we look in to who is giving them weapons and funds?
>or where they reqruite new men?
>nah....
>admiral statura
>shortest guy in the hall
lmao
>Let's ignore logistics, that shit never mattered in a war anyway.
To be fair, thats probably the most honest line in this entire franchise
The planet was supposedly Ilum, where the Jedi would go to find kyber crystals for their lightsabers. It's implied in the Jedi Fallen Order video game (set before A New Hope) that Illum became Starkiller Base. The Empire were beginning to turn it into a superweapon at that time.
>sacred planet
>well known
>nobody noticed the Empire and then First Order was turning it into a superweapon
>or the vast logistics required
>for 30 fricking years
please be patient
disney is small and thinking big hurts
The planet was located in the Unknown Regions so it wasn't well known at all.
Ilum was an incredibly important planet to the Jedi, so well known as associated with them that it was key for Palpatine to immediately have vast mining operations arranged by the Empire to destroy it, mining it out for kyber crystals across the twenty years of his Empire.
People fricking knew.
>people fricking knew
>about a planet in the UNKOWN REGIONS which was considered uncharted space by the time of the GCW
>only known by few and those in the Jedi Order, most of whom were wiped out
>nobody knew about a planet every single Jedi for thousands of years visited
>nobody knew about a planet an imperial strip-mining operation gutted to the core and replaced with one of the largest constructed superstructures in galactic history
Yes because the Jedi aren't gonna just let anybody know where they get one of the key components for their weapons and again anon, Ilum is on the Unknown Regions which was mostly uncharted and difficult to navigate on a good day.
So none of the at-least-thousands of imperials that would have had to be there to mine never told anyone? Not one of them or the people they talked to defected to the rebellion, or even talked about the source of the death star's most critical component in front of a rebel sympathizer? It never came up when the New Republic took over and read all the files on Coruscant?
You're talking about the organisation that literally murdered an entire species just to keep the original Death Star a secret. If they handled Starkiller like they handled the DS ones construction (with the aforementioned and also in Rebels where a large piece of kyber was being transported to power the superlaser, everything was compartmentalised, it would be transported from one ship to another at secret coordinates with Death Trooper escorts. Everything was kept tight.) Remember also that there were former Imperials at every level of the New Republics infrastructure, my guess is they would have made sure any info on the planet was suppressed in some way.
You’re such a homosexual
homie if you have the hyperspace route it's not uncharted.
You still need to chart hyperspace routes and because of all the nebulae, black holes etc in the unknown regions its very difficult to do so. The Jedi needed to use the force to help them chart their way to places like Ilum.
Bullshit, the route to Illum was very stable and didn't need to be constantly re-routed.
>Luke, when trying to rebuild the Jedi Order, never once went to the planet where they got their lightsaber crystals
Because it was mined of its kyber by the Empire when building Starkiller Base, did you read the thread?
So he never even went there? He just happened to hear, "it was mined", and so didn't bother? Despite the fact that Cal goes there and still finds crystals?
Cal went there when the planet was still being mined, I'd assume that after the second Death Star the planet would have needed to be mined to the point that there was little if any left (to power the 2nd DSs weapon) plus there would have most likely still been an Imperial presence there even after the 2nd DS blew up.
Are you forgetting that the Starkiller laser also works via kyber crystals, meaning that there's still an entire core of crystals to focus a sun's energy through?
Starkiller was specifically chosen to house a superweapon because of Ilums innate crystalline makeup but I thought it was powered by the sun (as seen in Force Awakens and some other dark energy.
Kyber crystals wotk by amplifying the power channeled through them. So you get more out than you put in.
>Unknown Regions
Not a Star Wars lore autist, but I'm guessing the Unknown Regions is basically the Wild West of the Star Wars Galaxy?
That would be Wild Space. The Unknown Regions is where all the weird spave horror shit goes.
>Mgnall-Mgnall
Ah, okay. Thanks for the reply.
I honestly like the idea of weaponising an entire planet. Starkiller Base as a concept is one of the VERY few things about the sequel trilogy I thought was kind of cool.
yeah the whole “its ilum!” shit was never really all that convincing to me.
starkiller base is way too small to be an actual planet like ilum was, and ilum isnt exactly an unknown world.
just seems like some bullshit to say “hey we thought this out” when they didnt at all
of course it's not convincing, it was the work of some entry level hacks trying to wipe JJ's dirty ass over he took a steamy dump over any attempt at worldbuilding.
>The Death Star will be the ultimate power in the galaxy, so much so that we'll immediately build another once the first is destroyed
>we'll also hollow out a planet and put a laser in it, and give it the capability to destroy 5 planets at once
for what fricking purpose?
It just shows that somehow Palpatine had many contingencies.
>empire makes a huge fricking deal about the Death Star being the ultimate weapon
>making a second doesn’t seem completely insane
>actually the entire time we were also turning a planet into an even ultimater weapon
How did this get greenlit
how do they meet their daily calorie intake?
That's so much metal. Did it really need to be that big just for a few lasers? They could have built a frickton of space ships with all that.
it's a planet and not the whole thing is metal, but i still agree. 5 death stars > 1 planet that shoots 5 lasers
Oh fair enough. Not a mathematician but I suppose that's equivalent to gold plating versus sold gold. Could be a millimetre thick for all we know.
What really annoys me about Ilum, is that in Force Awakens it's presented as the main base of operations for the First Order. All their resources are on this planet.
Only for The Last Jedi to say, no they still have this giant ship plus a whole fleet of star destroyers (which a large chunk of get destroyed) and even then in Rise of Skywalker, they are still presented as the omnipresent Empire despite constantly losing more and more resources. Nevermind the stupid sith fleet of a thousand star destroyers with death star cannons.
Frankly if anyone had a brain, Starkiller would have been the final goal of the trilogy instead of blowing it up in the first film.
Well the thing is that the way it works, it absorbs the energy of a star and then effectively just releases it into a specific direction. It's more like a giant cannon than a death laser station.
It's a common problem. Another example is the Decepticons from almost all Transformers media.
>Made to be fighters and hard laborers while the Autobots were typically civilians and worked cushier jobs
>War breaks out and Decepticons eventually take Cybertron and push Autobots off
>Said to be powerful warriors the Autobots can barely handle
>When Optimus or Bumblebee or anyone else show up Decepticons die by the dozens for every 1 Autobot that dies
Shit media like this often says the bad guys are powerful and scary but they're never actually shown to be. Makes you wonder how they even got to a position of power in the first place.
>Main cannon is miss-aligned to the planet center
One fricking job
remember when science fiction actually had science in it? yeah me neither
rick and morty
Sw has always been space fantasy, not scifi
>What if we gave the nu-empire star destroyer based superlasers reminiscent of the death star?
>No time for that. Give the star destroyers dick guns and send it off to production.
>dick guns
I mean that's a bit more sensible than having to get an entire space station into position/at the right angle. They learned their lesson from the previous two times.
It really is amazing how they just didn't do anything, anything at all. Literally just ask nerds to work for free and they'll collate all the cool lore pics for you and 1% of them are probably talented enough to do some actual modelling or design work. No, instead, design everything by committee, hire only people who don't care (or nepotism hires), make a piece of garbage instead.
I like how Minas Tirith in the Lord of the Rings film was built by Warhammer nerds. Makes sense, that was probably a dream gig for them.
Honestly the death star laser star destroyer would have made 100x times more sense.
The first order should've been basically a clandestine imperial remnant that jumps in and out of hyperspace using refurbished and jury-rigged empire tech to wreck republic shit.
Like
says it's completely moronic to have the empire be surpassed by an organisation that literally has less resources than the empire had at it's peak.
If you think about it it's absolutely crazy how bad the new movies are.
Even if you don't like the prequels, they at the very least tell a complete story of a republic turning into an empire: wars being instigated to divide and conquer, terrorism and assassinations to produce fear which in turn paves the way for emergency powers being granted to the chancellor.
I'm not gonna sit here and defend the CGI or pretend the senate scenes were inducing nailbiting excitement. But the story was infinitely smarter than nu-wars.
The star destroys in the rise of skywalker completely undermine the resources, engineering, and world building of the death star completely. The Death Star was suppose to be a super weapon of unfathomable power that showcased the absolute control the empire had on the galaxy. The rebels couldn't even comprehend such a weapon. A weapon that took 20 years to make.
And then in Rise Of Skywalker they have thousands of starships with the exact same capability of a death star and they came out of nowhere. It makes the Death Star look like a joke.
I'm convinced that actual morons made the plots of the sequels
Rise of Skywalker was incredibly rushed, as we all know, so shortcuts had to be taken. They didn't have the time to design some awesome new spaceship and translate it into a 3D model, so they copy-pasted the Star Destroyer model they made for Rogue One.
>first order managed to build this without the ruling power noticing
Did they ever bother explaining how in the frick that could have happened without everyone being given a lobotomy?
Don't forget the first order also secretly built this thing with a 2 million crew
The only thing that these sequels convinced me is that Leia and the rest of the republic were those type of communist scumbags that seem very nice when opposing a regime, but once they are in power they are far worse, they ruin everything that was built in the name of freedom, bankrupt everything and whoever tries to criticize or oppose them gets labeled a fascist.
There's no other explanation to the First Order to get manpower to build and operate those things while the "not-so-rebels" barely have manpower when they were in power in the last 40 years.
TLJ can blame it on rich people all you want, if the enemy has unlimited manpower to oppose you the government and you lack manpower and no one heeds your call for help it means you fricked up so hard you put the people against you that they don't mind and even prefer to live under a dictatorship.
Reminder.
All because they wanted to rehash Rebels vs Empire
>And then we'll go too far! We'll become shiftless and lazy and the Vong will eat us alive.
They could have solved literally every problem by roasting and eating Fey'lya
>Luke, I am your father, and I am also...a fricking scorpion.
absolutely nerdpilled
>"That didn't even happen in the Special Edition!"
Based and Golden Age Simpsonspilled.
Star Wars died in 2012 as soon as Disney got its sleazy hands on it.
The rebels consisted of a bomber "fleet" of 8 ships and an armada with maybe 2 capital ships. This is the entire rebellion. At the end of TLJ there were maybe 20 survivors that all fit on the Falcon.
The USA has 47 active aircraft carriers with 11 of them being nuclear powered super carriers. There have been 1000 f-35s built, 60 b-52 bombers, 21 b2 bombers. This is just for one Nation on a single planet. Coruscant has 3 trillion people living on it.
The military numbers of star wars makes no sense.
>military numbers of Star Wars make no sense
>in TCW kamino mentions an order of a million soldiers
>for a war on a GALACTIC scale
Star Wars has always suffered from garbage writing post-ROTJ
>cue to 1 clone trooper aimlessly wandering around each of the million important planets in the galaxy
They did not, no.
>Imagine if we made the Death Star.. but it’s.. LE BIGGER
>What if there was a LIFE Star and it CREATED planets?
Imagine there was a lightsaber, but it was actually DARK
they should have made a 'heavysaber' that takes a small group of jedi/sith to wield, but it's so massive it can still block all the fancy twirls etc.
Unironically a colourless white lightsaber would be cooler. But not the bullshit spfx they use for Asokha
That was Titan AE.
It's all so soulless compared to EU.
Qrd on these?
the goofy looking cone ship can blow up stars or something
Top is the Star Forge, a structure capable of using the dark side to rapidly construct ships, weapons and droids. It gave even an unga bunga moron Sith Lord the potential to threaten he galaxy by just throwing shit at the republic until they couldn't cope.
Bottom is the Sun Crusher, a small ship capable of causing suns to go supernova. This one, as
said, used to be held up as a donut steele attempt to one up the Death Star, but the fact it wasn't a literal bigger and better death star makes it still less bad than NuWars' shit.
>leave the rebels to me
What makes this ship so funny is that it was held up for years as one of the worst things about the EU.
Then TFA arrived and made Starkiller base.
this thing is so moronic.
it belongs in a 40k fanfic.
>Big deal about the ship
>When in reality it was the nova bombs it carried.
It's like calling a submarine a superweapon because it carries H-bombs.
The ship was also "drive through other ships, shrug off death star laser" invincible.
It didn't shrug off the laser. A low-powered shot missed it, but the energy bleed of that miss alone almost killed it and it was visibly slow and breaking apart as a result. Getting hit dead-on would have vaporised it like anything else.
this was probably the dumbest thing in Star Wars and that includes the Vong and fart weddings but this
was kino and a great way to portray a galactic threat that wasn't just BIG WEAPON
This looks moronic, just because garbage like the Starkiller base now exists doesn't make this suddenly good. Still looks moronic and completely out of place in Star Wars.
>free spaceship model on turbo squid
For all the MANY, MANY problems with the sequels, this shit was even egregious compared to them. The Death Star is the technological zenith of the Empire at its strongest, yet we're meant to believe The First Order pulls this shit out of its ass.
It's actually wild how shockingly bad the sequels are.
At least we had a moment of lore explanation where where JJ showed ups how many worlds the First Order contro-
Oh wait that never happened. There was no world building at all....
I loved all the planets in the original Star Wars (1977). Just so many of them.
>I loved all the planets in the original Star Wars (1977). Just so many of them.
They named dropped several planets in the og star wars you dumb homosexual.
Tatooine
Dantooine
Alderaan
Corellia (implied?)
Kessel (implied)
Yavin IV
>Corellia (implied?)
Could be a person/company.
>Kessel (implied)
Ditto, the Kessel run, named after the explorer/scientist/racer John Kessel.
>Yavin IV
Moon.
>Tatooine
>Dantooine
>Alderaan
>Yavin IV
The Phantom Menace had the greatest planet lore. Not only were we introduced to Iego, but we also learned about its moons. Tolkienian.
Well the original movie had the benefit of being the literal first fricking media of Star Wars ever so it gets a pass. TFA and the trash sequels came out almost 40 years later so there was plenty of previous SW lore to go off of but they just didn't do it. Also being sequels to the originals they had an obligation to expand and explain the state of the galaxy but they didn't because israelite israelite is a fricking hack.
The movie established that the empire controls the galaxy. We know how big the galaxy is and put the pieces together, even if we don't know specifics.
The first order is a Johnny come lately and we have absolutely frick all context for them. We know that they are apparent underdogs since they're not in control and are using archaic ships and troops, but we also know the republic isn't actively fighting them and a tiny splinter group represents their only opposition, but then we find out they have the resources to build absolutely colossal structures that dwarf the empire at its height.
The honeymoon period blinded a lot of people to these facts, but if all it takes is one shit movie after the honeymoon's over to make people start asking these questions, you need to have some fricking answers.
Abrams truly is the biggest fricking hack ever.
just like in kotor, malak empire is supposed to be big and threatening but apart from korriban and the temple on lehon there are no other known planets (manaan is a neutral planet and taris was occupied shortly after you crashlanded on it)
Just because they didn't name drop planets doesn't mean they weren't under Malak's control. Nobody on Taris acted like a sith occupation was some unprecedented event. And the whole point of the game was that the Star Forge could shit out a war machine to surpass and bypass the power base of an interstellar government.
The Star Forge makes sense, in-universe; the
>deth sturr, but even biggerer
doesn't.
what planets? we don't even know how many of them he controls. is it like half of the galaxy? or just a couple of sectors? and sf's equipment needs manpower to operate it, where did malak get it? the initial republic army that was corrupted by revan wouldn't be enough to sustain years of warfare.
kotor worlbuilding was shit, swtor makes a much better job of it
>the Republic military wouldn't be enough to sustain a military
are you moronic? I was talking about the republic fleet that deserted the republic and followed revan after the mandalorian wars
Exactly, what makes you think the defected Republic military wouldn't be able to run a camapaign against the Republic? Not to mention they WERE recruiting all over.
>this massive installation eats stars
>this in itself is a terrifying and system wiping calamity
>but lol the real threat is that it shoots lasers after it eats the sun
it takes 30 seconds to realize how dumb Starkiller is
how does this contradict what happened in the movie?
>bounce into a singularity
hate it when that happens
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
>Genuinely a cool character with potential
>Reduced to comic relief not even one movie later
What happened?
He's a white male.
Unironically the only character I liked... then they trashed him.
He was fine in TLJ; his best scene in the entire trilogy is when he tries to off Ren in Snoke's ruined command bridge.
what's the logic behind a starkiller when you already have a deathstar.
You could build thousands of deathstars with the resources of one starbase.
And you only need like 1 really with a fleet to protect it from pilots with jedi asspull storywriting.
Why didn't they just hyperspace a bunch of ships through the planets they wanted to destroy?
I honestly like the idea of weaponising an entire fricking planet, but even so, I consider the disney shitquel trilogy to be non-canon.
>lets invest colossal amounts of resources into a single super mega ultra weapon!!!
>oh they blew it up
>what if we... invest even more resources into an even bigger ultra weapon!!!
>damn they blew that up too
>DUDE WHAT IF WE...
Death Star 2 does at least make sense in context.
The whole purpose of it wasn't to make the same mistake again, but to make people think he was and then ambush them. Naturally it failed due to Palpatine's arrogance and assumption his visions would all come to pass (Something Luke was there to witness, Rian you fricking moron) but there was at least a plan in place that utilised the fact it had already failed once.
it's like the monthy phyton sketch of the lord who build his castle in a swamp.
Death Star 2 made perfect sense because they relied on Death Star 1 to keep the galaxy in check after dissolving the senate so they should build another one as fast as we could.
But the emperor actually plays 3d chess and gets it up and working early while exposing its location to the rebels, who are lured into a perfect trap. It's good. It's not just bigger and better and the stakes are incredibly high.
Starkiller base is using a planet which isn't even fricking remote.
>Starkiller base is using a planet which isn't even fricking remote.
How the frick did they even hollow out the planet to make Starkiller Base?
The lore on it is at least semi-interesting. It's the planet Ilum, which used to be the sacred planet where Jedi got kyber crystals for their lightsabers. The Empire strip-mined the planet for kyber for the Death Star's laser, and the First Order built the Starkiller base in the resulting trench. Then the Resistance blew up the whole planet. Basically, this incredibly important place to the Jedi got completely annihilated and no one brought it up once in the Sequels.
That trench is super deep. At those radius the rock is likely molten and pretty hot so I doubt it is results of mining. Earth mines are barely noticeable from space. Here we are taking about mines deep like 1/4th of the planet radius. It is completely unrealistic
Not every planet has a molten core. Also, this is Star Wars fantasy technology we're talking about. Of all the unrealistic things in Star Wars a giant trench carved out of a planet is the least of my concerns, at least when it's done by an organization with as many resources as the Galactic Empire.
If you can make an entire planet into a multiple planet killing weapon wouldn’t it have been more efficient to just make a fleet of death stars or a fleet of star destroyers with Death Star lasers instead?
What they really should have done is create a weapon that makes stars go supernova. Then you could wipe out not just multiple planets in a system but literally everything in the system.
Im speaking about molten mantle. This is just given by the phase diagram of rocks, silicates etc.. even small moons like our have a partly molten mantle.
It is easier for me to accept unknown tech than assuming different physical properties of materials
>There's an ever bigger Jaws
>Luke Skywalker brings balance to the force
>a mere 30 years later..........
I thought it was suppose to be balance to the force. not the dark side taking a 2 week vacation and got back to work.
How?
They even do an overhead to show him pulling away from the pack. There's absolutely no way she could've not only sped up enough to catch him but to cut him off from the side. That scene is so moronic on so many levels.
Ive never seen two actors so blatantly unattracted to each other as this kiss. You could feel them cringing through the screen
I have no idea why they tried to build a romance around them. This moment is clearly supposed to be cathartic as these two finally succumb to their feelings, despite everything else going on in the background lol, yet it falls so fricking flat. People giggled at my screening though that might have been at the goofy, nonsensical line she says before the kiss.
>I have no idea why they tried to build a romance around them.
because Empire Strikes Back had a romance
I actually feel sorry for them, Finn was left for dead in the previous move so if Boyega refused they could easily cut him, say that he died and replace him with Poe or someone else and he was reprising his first big role so him getting fired would jeopardize all his other roles.
The girl was introduced in that movie this was her big role and she couldn't refuse because she would be easily replaced and her career would be dead for sure.
The real mystery of TLJ is whether or not it was the result of one draft which never got edited for continuity issues, or so many drafts that they couldn't keep track of details that only made sense with shots/scenes that were no longer present.
There's just so many fricking bizzare issues with the movie even outside the abhorrent plot and themes.
That's why I'll never understand people that defend it as a good movie. It doesn't even do the basics well. The story is a mess.
What's more is that so many issues could be solved by a simple revision, so the fact they weren't is even more jarring.
It's one thing to realise that you'd have to revise 30 minutes of screentime you've already filmed and decide it's better to just hope nobody notices, but being too lazy to do things like;
>add a shot of Rose pulling ahead
>reshoot a scene so the magical vanishing knife doesn't happen
>add a line explaining why Finn and Rose can frick off to Casinoland in full view of everyone and/or why the resistance can't just offload passengers
>give a reason why they can call Maz just fine but need to wait to make planetfall before calling for help
is unforgivable, and those are just off the top of my head
Former. It has peak first draft energy. Latter was more Rise of skywalker.
I miss them
the Starkiller base getting blown up in the first movie was fricking moronic. It should have been the main obstacle for the rebels for all three movies.
>we will never see this on the big screen
I hate Disney for what they did to the EU. Star Wars died in 2015
Wait why are the empire shooting at each other?
It's a big plot line from the EU that takes place immediately before Episode 2, where there is a civil war happening in the Empire due to trade route zoning or something. Palpatine on one side and Dooku on the other (that is the real reason why Episode 2 starts out with Palpatine as a prisoner aboard Dooku's ship)
Ignore the moron who responded first, it's from the post-RotJ era. In that situation it's Pellaeon's SSD Reaper vs the captured New Republic SSD Lusankya. Pellaeon ambushed it with two SSDs at once (smaller not pictured), which allowed the Imperial Remnant to sue for peace.
This doesn't look right, they show the scale in the movie. Also they didn't build the planet, Starkiller is just a big gun. If they can build the DS2 in 3 years they can surely build this in 30.
Best,
JJ
DS2 was already under construction, Palps wanted a Death Star for every sector.
fanfiction
they're not a tiny fringe group, they're the remnants of a galactic-scale empire. they have resources.
>industry, manpower, materials from an entire galaxy to build a small moon sized station
>a tiny fringe terrorist group with no outside support can supposedly carve out a whole planet and build a better and more powerful gun than that empire
Yeah, no.
You see anon, despite being pathetic sperg jokes who get defeated very easily, secret Nazis reprsent the greatest existential threat to Our Democracy.
Weird they can't seem to make a believable plot where chuds in the sticks overthrow the centralized urban empire.
A gun that shoots missiles the size of Death Stars.... lmfao
Uhhh actually it shoots lasers powered by the sun.
Did you actually watch the movie???????????
Even allowing for the exceptionally loose relationship Star Wars has with the laws of physics, that's fricking moronic.
it's just about the edge of feasibility that an all powerful galactic empire can build a battlestation the size of a small moon as a completely inefficient saudi style frick you we have money flex.
JJ wanted star wars but bigger, but is too much of a hack moron to establish any sort of backstory to facilitate that, so you have a fringe terrorist sect building a weapon 10x the size that an all powerful galatic empire built, and then within a couple of weeks they somehow rule the galaxy again.
the real point is, jj didn't care, disney didn't care and even the moronic clapping seal population didn't care until rhian spelled it out to them just how nothing in that universe either makes sense or matters and killed off star wars forever. it was slop defined and we're all the better for it's death.
It will never not piss me off that moronic Star Wars fans needed Rian to take a shit all over JJ's moronic homosexual ideas to actually start getting mad. The best thing about TLJ was how explicitly it made TFA look like a joke.
all you had to do was have the empire build 99% of the base and the first order finished the last 1%
Agreed.
>The Chad Galactic Empire vs the Virgin First Order
I generally start to lose interest in sci-fi when every ship lost is like a full-on genocide and yet they only have escape pods for like 8 people. And said pods randomly lands on the nearest system which is 99.99999% likely to kill you.
Starkiller Base is too big to be plausible. Death Stars are plausible.
What did they do with all the dirt/rock they dug up from that hundred mile deep trench?
>Starkiller Base
Haha that's like the original name for Luke Skywalker! They sure know their nerd trivia, nice reference for us hardcore star wars nerds haha.
>Look at my death star it's much bigger than all the others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine giving these morons money to make movies.
They have basically sentient robots, and who knows what level of automation below that, and advanced computer systems.
So you could probably run Starkiller base with +/- a hundred guys, since they have been shown in other movies to have droids who can repair/build other droids.
Maybe you garrison a thousand just in case.
You're applying hard scifi logic to Star Wars. Yes all the technology is there for von neumann machine remote strip mining of the entire galaxy but that doesn't change the fact that when they go down to a mining planet in Star Wars its the equivelant of a 1800s coal mine but the foreman is a quirky slug man named Glimbo Viridian.
>actual comparison
none of those objects are real, morons.
Thats so unrealistic. No fricking way they could build something that big in the time between Jedi and Force Awakens.
Agreed, and my dad's an engineer at one of the largest space empires in the universe.
Ok, smartass. But weve already established from original trilogy these things take a frickload of time to build. Now imagine something thousands of times bigger. It would take a lightyear sized jump in their tech capabilities, no pun intended. And if thats the case why have they not applied the tech to anything else.
Its just dumb fanfic tier bullshit and I refuse to treat it as anything else.
>aboard
you're not aboard a planet moron
are you aboard the earth
So fricking dumb.
incredible
I love israelites. Im sure they have souls just like us.
Women, too.
Why did they go through all the effort of disabling the shield generator at Endor when they could have just exited hyperspace when inside the shield?
What I didn't get is that it does something far nastier just powering up (literally extinguishes an entire star like a kid imploding a fruit sip on a hot day) than it does shooting a couple of gay planets.
Just fkn suck their sun dry. Their fkn planets will fall out of orbit once it's gravity well is no longer holding them in a stable orbit, and they'll spin off into deep space. Everyone will get trashed by sudden planet quakes and then freeze to death inside ten minutes.
Yr a fkn STAR KILLER!! KILL THEIR FKN STAR, homosexual!!
>Starkiller absorbs system's sun
>none of the snow melts