It's meh.
Cut together, there is at least 30 minutes of woke propaganda.
the movie start with a parody of 2001 monkey being women's playing with baby doll. The appear the barbie. Then you have a 5 minutes song on the Barbie world is perfect and ken is a cuck. Barbie thinks about death and need to go to the real world to fix the women playing with her. Ken comes, he sees that the real world has patriarchy. He imports it to the barbie world and change it kendom. He has a fetish with horse. Barbie find the women playing with her, she is depressed because being a women hard.
kendom made all the Barbie dumb b***h and they serve ken's. Barbie give up but the strong woman help her and make all ken fight them self.
barbie land go back to normal with ken having a bit of power.
the movie end with Barbie becoming a real women and the goes to the gynecologist and credit rolls.
5/10
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The public is mostly women's. Some have barbie cosplay. The dude are gay or cucks.
The music is okay, the credit song is Aqua Barbie Girl. The movie has a moronic narrator explaining the movie for the women is the theater.
Masculinity in Ken is defined by Horse, Car and Beer. Big car = bad. You have a good 8 minutes long dialogue about the place of women in the society.
Sets are good and make reference of all barbie dolls and accessories (I guessed).
TLDR wait for the torrent and go watch Oppenheimer.
>Sets are good and make reference of all barbie dolls and accessories
one of the oft-posted frames has a hair brush that's a solid plastic chunk like a lego hair brush. Idiotic. Barbies have hair, it's part of the draw. The song says "you can brush my hair"
I don't think they put much effort in beyond "pink and plastic looking"
The sets look like actual barbie play set. All the props are basically real size toy.
Thanks anon, bought 10 tickets, will buy the blu-ray and ignore Oppenheimer completely.
Next time remain sucking wiener which is the only thing you are not completely terrible at, instead of trying to fit in so hard.
Mid moment
Are you being paid to promote the movie here?
Hey look a sodomite that defends objective trash on the internet
How much does the troony appear?
5 minutes tops. Even with all the makeup, he still looks like a man.
No laughed at flat feet or though it was amusing right? That was the dumbest fricking hook to get a plot going ever.
>The public is mostly women's. Some have barbie cosplay. The dude are gay or cucks
Now that begs the question. What are you?
How old does Margot look like?
You know they use lots of make-up and use facial feature softening software on these big movies right?
And an old hag can still look like one
GOOD MORNING SIR
Latinx
Whiter than you pendejx
Watch how they recoil
it's a homosexual non-binary term invented by israelites to subvert the traditional masculine and feminine genders of words in Spanish. It's kind of like goyim but much more widespread. Hispanic countries are absolutely filled with yids, even the supposed Argentinian "white ethnostate" is infested with them.
No one cares about the rules of your monkey speak latinx
>The music is okay, the credit song is Aqua Barbie Girl.
The original song or that shitty Nicky Minaj remix?
>also
How long is the Goose's song?
I implore you to learn the English language before posting again.
cry more moron, you can't even speak anything other than english.
いい試みだ、バカ。
"people called romanes, they go the house"?
imagine bragging about being a weeb
中二病のようにしゃべり方だ
So? The world doesn’t need any chimpbabble (non-English languages)
Imagine thinking this isn't a status symbol.
even a moronic Hispanic, shitskin or asiatic can write in your shitty language with minor mistakes here and there, you cant communicate in other language, you fricker, that shit you wrote was translated with google
Why would I want to communicate in some third world language?
>Why would I want to communicate in some third world language?
You already do kek
no es el spanish para "no" en engles gracias googel
Based Ken going his own way
He makes kendom, but he is quickly put back to his cuckold position.
So like 90% of people trying to become sigma males
Yep, Ken is a more moronic than Andrew Tate (yes)
Dude why the hell would you spoil one of the most anticipated movies of the decades so far, on a film board of all places? I’m literally going to see it Friday
You are a homosexual.
nobody forced you to open the thread you fricking cancer
>most anticipated movies of the decades so far
>I’m literally going to see it on Friday
Everybody laugh at homosexualanon
>the movie end with Barbie becoming a real women and the goes to the gynecologist and credit rolls
Not all women have to go to gynecologist though. Why is this movie so hateful towards women?
>movie end with Barbie becoming a real women and the goes to the gynecologist and credit rolls.
Lol.
Is the rumor about Simu's Ken being raped true?
No.
Yeah, but it's nothing explicit.
wtf
Ken's are barely present in the movie. 70% is about barbie
Simu knife rape is in another bizarre movie.
No, nothing remotely like that happens (maybe the cut it out after the test screenings?) Simu is just Gosling Ken's friendly rival and nothing else.
speak english next time you fricking moron
esl drivel
>biggest movie of the year is about how white women are oppressed
Frick off
>biggest movie of the year is about how attractive white women are oppressed
Frick off
>le white privilege
Unironically KYS. Whites are openly discriminated against by most employers, media, the criminal Justice system, education, etc. Non-white women are clearly treated better than white women.
I've seen it too and you're being generous with the rating. It's a 2/10 at best. One of the dumbest, most patronizing and unfunny movies I've seen. That America Ferrera speech was absolutely embarrassing.
Yep, that parts was awful.
>parts
You need to frick right off
Ummm.... his cinema truly dead? Both Barbie and Oppenheimer seem to be trash.
>Oppenheimer seems to be tr-ACK
That's not Armond White, the only critic that matters...
Oh shit he took a picture with Samford & Son [son not pictured].
>blows the doors off the hinges
Wooden doors?
Oppenheimer is about israelites blowing up innocent people (again) to fit the world into their design. Why should anyone want to see 80 year old propaganda like that?
Because this historical event that you take issue with still actually happened and thus is of interest.
I've heard much about this speech, what does she say exactly?
Something like
>in this world they call us dolls
>but we are women
>we have always been women
>we are strong
>we are smart
>we are powerful
>we are not your dolls
>we are immense beings, capable of creating life from nothing
>and we will dismantle the oppressive establishment that man has created
>and in its wake, a new edifice shall be erected
>one which honors the true givers of life
>the ones who truly hold the weight of society upon their shoulders
>women and those who identify as one
>and we will dismantle the oppressive establishment that man has created
There is no way a Hollywood movie has dialogue this hypocritical and didactic
Hollywood, moronic? Not possible!
Have you been under a rock for the past 7 years?
>women and those who identify as one
>the true givers of life
Pick one
they can't be this fricking stupid. "treated like dolls" Black person you created the dolls!
Why do they keep doing the turbofeminist stuff from "women" that aren't even human. Westworld does the same shit. All that girlboss monologueing from fricking robots.
Literally what did they mean by this?
>All that girlboss monologueing from fricking robots.
Which ends up wasting everyone's time because it isn't the focus people were drawn to the show for. I knew it couldn't do anything better than the S1 finale. Hpkins' departure told me it didn't have anything to say that's worth watching.
>women and those who identify as one
Way to piss off the terfs with this in addition to the trans Barbie. This is alienating the type of people who this movie would otherwise pander to. Depending on how insufferable the messaging is, this movie might struggle once people become aware of it. It might still do well though too, considering the novelty, amount of shilling, and large genuine excitement for the movie that might be strong enough to push it forward anyways. To me, Barbie seems to be a bit of a wildcard.
>women and those who identify as one
we win again bros, it seems the new female reich has a fatal flaw and we only have to indetify as female to reap its benefits
>but we are women
>we have always been women
>we are immense beings, capable of creating life from nothing
>one which honors the true givers of life
>women and those who identify as one
lmao they're absolutely gonna get in trouble for this and they directly invited the discourse by having a troon in the prominent supporting cast. This manages to piss off basically every faction.
Honestly this seemed like the most probable outcome if they were going to frick up. It seemed they weren't actually going to conform with the mainstream, establishment instantiation of feminism, so if they fricked up their interpretation they'd be in the dangerous position of pissing everyone off. I'm curious to see what they actually did with Ken, and not just summations by moronic ESLs, because from those summations it sounds like on the male side they firmly rejected the mainstream perspective on men (which entirely dismisses incels and anyone that says society has an unhealthy attitude towards men as such) and asserted men are valuable and being anti-male is unsustainable, but also took a position that will piss off any pro-male faction. It's sounding like this film could be impressively divisive and reviled by making both sides hate it and hate it for opposite reasons.
>they'd be in the dangerous position of pissing everyone off.
But this shit won't make money. Men won't want to sit through this. This isn't for kids either. And this isn't "clever" enough for the b***hes who throw money and accolades and achievements as indie darling shit like Fleabag. This movie won nothing.
The movie has zero sympathy whatsoever for “real world” men. It merely has limited sympathy for the Kens who are non-human innocents from an “impossible fantasy world completely opposite to our own” where males are a subclass.
>This manages to piss off basically every faction.
Seriously, this could create problems for the film despite how big it seems to be.
>Alienates men
This is half your audience. Progressive and liberal men will be more tolerant or even approve of this, but some of the less zealous may not like it and there may be those who don’t like being targeted with the broad brush as “not all men” and they think of themselves as one of “the good ones”.
>Alienates right wingers
Again, this is around half your audience and dips into the female population. There are women who have issues with some aspects of feminism and who find it preachy. They will also have issue with any other progressive messaging present.
>Alienates the apolitical
There are many people who are tired of propaganda in general.
>Alienates terfs
The feminists who this movie panders to otherwise, will not like the trans pandering.
>Alienates feminists in general
Feminists in general may have some grievances and hesitancy towards embracing the film because of the entire premise and IP. The Barbie doll has been criticized by feminists before and the hypocrisy of the brand may be a turnoff. As always there is infighting within ideology that may be the detrimental to the film. I’m not sure how much of a problem this will be and the fondness for Barbie/feminist messaging may overpower any grievances, but it isn’t the greatest starting point to have to get past.
The film could very well still succeed, but it will be in spite of all this. It depends on how egregious the messaging is and how willing people are to ignore it in exchange for a few fun moments (how many of these moments there are, or if there are any at all is very important too of course). How ignorant people are of the politics and remain will be a factor. Considering how right wing and educated on the movie this board is, and that there are seemingly still a fair amount of people here that still want to watch the movie, it might do okay.
I agree on all points except the last one. Zoomer feminists are morons who don’t see the irony of praising a movie based on an intellectual property for its cogent gender analysis because they are so mindbroken and think anything that humiliates or makes fun of men = good. This is probably why the non-TERF ones love trannies too
Yeah I do think that one is probably less of an issue and that to feminists, this movie will probably overall be a win in their book. It just perhaps isn’t the greatest starting point and there are always those who squabble about what exactly their ideology entails and how its messaging should be executed. The IP provides an immediate opportunity for dispute in this manner. Consistency isn’t necessarily present in their ideology though, and a fair amount of them probably like Barbie anyways despite realizing that she is stereotype they personally so often criticize. Will Ferrell even has a quote echoing this sentiment.
>“It’s a loving homage to the brand and, at the same time, couldn’t be more satirical — just an amazing comment on male patriarchy and women in society and why Barbie’s criticized and yet why every little girl still wants to play with Barbie. Boy, when I read it, I was like, ‘This is fantastic.'”
They criticize men who stereotype women, but still want to play with or watch their Barbie movie which will contain some of this while simultaneously trying to be feminist.
If it’s as bad as people are saying we might even see a boycott of Barbie merchandise. “Voting with your wallet” has really caught on lately. It seems a bit mean to tell a little girl “no” to a toy, so it might not happen, but I think it’s a silly risk for a company to take in this economy. How weird would it be to see conservatives boycotting Barbie dolls instead of feminists?
Definitely could happen. A bit of time has passed since Bud Light and people might be eager to demonstrate another display of power, especially after the previous success. If Conservatives/right wingers boycotted Barbie then the left would almost certainly take the side of Barbie regardless of their grievances with her just to oppose and criticize the right. There would also be the problem that Bud Light faced though, where any capitulation from Barbie would piss off the Leftists on their side, but doubling down cements their position (not that apologies and capitulation will help with the right much either). It all depends on exactly how offensive and blatant Barbie is to warrant special treatment when pretty much all other modern movies share the same sentiment.
>If it’s as bad as people are saying we might even see a boycott of Barbie merchandise
Yes, from all of the bud light drinkin' rednecks that buy Barbie dolls, amirite?
How are you going to spin your boycott, anon? "This movie about a girl's toy has a feminist message! Back in my day Barbie dolls were only housewives and maids!"
>capable of creating life from nothing
Women are fricking moronic
I lose more and more respect for them the more I witness them
This. Literally, literally the Black folk of the gender.
>capable of creating life from nothing
Since when can women make babies without sperm?
reptiles can
humans BTFO
I’ve visited /u/ enough to know that if two cute girls trib hard enough they can mash two eggs into a zygote
The quote is probably referencing the many “women with penises”. Since now leftoids literally refuse to associate genitals or reproduction with being male or female.
cringe
>>we are immense beings, capable of creating life from nothing.
>one which honors the true givers of life
I though this movie was anti-motherhood and pro-abortion
There probably will be some "motherhood bad" moment in barbie
I’m not so sure, Gerwig herself is a mother and the plot revolves around motherhood
>Gerwig herself is a mother and the plot revolves around motherhood
I pity the children of these Hollywood idiots, especially the boys. They're doomed.
>I pity the children of these Hollywood idiots, especially the boys. They're doomed.
More like trooned.
You guys know that the feminist director and writer of this film, who has children, ended her first film with the femoid city-dwelling protagonist reconciling with and thanking her mother, and then attending a religious service of the church she grew up with, right?
Yeah but lady bird was from 2017, the mental illness was just starting. Now Greta gerwig gave in to the degeneracy, sadly.
It's moronic feminist rhetoric they don't even believe, but just another way to point out "hey, we're not totally useless!"
Probably, but they might want to have their cake and eat it. Pregnancy is an immense wonder and deeply spiritual state that men could never hope to understand and are inferior for lacking this enlightenment. Yet it is simultaneously also a horrific parasitic affliction and biological burden that automatically makes the lives of women harder than the comparatively carefree ones of men and is something that they shouldn’t be forced to endure. Either way men lose, except male to female transgenders apparently because reasons.
I'm convinced you are a woman but either way good take
>I'm convinced you are a woman
I’m a chud. I guess I could have phrased it better, but I was just pointing out the two contrasting feminist views on pregnancy I’ve heard. Personally, I do subscribe a little to the magic of pregnancy and motherhood view myself, but think women shouldn’t let it go to their heads or use it to attack men. Also, fatherhood is very important and has its own unique aspects.
Based. I noticed that chuds and TERFs agree a lot of the time on most gender issues that aren’t “kill all men”
>they might want to have their cake and eat it
This is just left-leaning white women though, have never seen people so incapable of actually having beliefs or being real.
Imagine the dudes watching this feminst garbage just for the shit memes. Some people are really moronic
>we are immense beings, capable of creating life from nothing
But men can give birth now too.
>women and those who identify as one
So identifying as a woman means you can give birth now?
>women and those who identify as one
That shit alone invalidates the rest
oh fricking hell
>creating life from nothing
OY VEEEEEY ABORTIONSISTERS???
Women are living memes, what the frick is this thinly veiled misandrist shit?
>we are immense beings, capable of creating life from nothing
transisters...
What? Women are rivals. You will always see fat women hating fit women, old women hating young women
>being someones doll is bad
Call me crazy, but I'm sure women lived better when they had a good husband, children and their own house as their 20s instead of being single childless roasties at their 30s, working in a soulless office because their only options are either go back to their parents (and oh boy, I know some of those who would rather had a bad boyfriend with money over being daddys old girl forever) or keep paying the rent over some small flat
Women cucked themselves
Also lmao, that greentext sounds transphobic, sisters.
>capable of creating life from nothing
Which you mock and absolutely abhor with disgust.
>and those who identify as one
Oh so I guess Ken is Barbie too.
This shit is most tone deaf garbage ever.
Women need to be a mother, but not too much for their boyfriend. Women strong, need to feel good about life, try to not be depressed. Search twitter with #womenstrong and you have the speech. It's the most Woke Feminist Californian shit you can write, a parody of itself.
California was a mistake from the start.
it was good in the 90s. it used to be paradise.
90s California had gang problems and one of the worst race riots in American history
correct, I lived around there. was pretty good in white hoods like Mission Viejo that are now ching chong chinatown
they fought and won, so they were entitled to get the land and their women, like huns and mongols.
True, more when koreans shoot blacks from their shop roofs
It was 100% Greta
What is the speech about?
It's about the double standards women face in society.
>It's about the double standards women face in society.
Oh give me a fricking break. This isn't the 1800's.
What is the Snyder joke?
One of the Barbie when she back to normal thanks to the woke propaganda say : It was like a was stuck watching Zack Snyder's Justice League cut(when she was a b***h).
What the hell does zack snyder have to do with all this?
The lunatic left never fricking forgave Snyder for the way his fans successfully got Warner to let Snyder finish production of his original cut of Justice League, since it was a "victory for the chuds".
Combined with the fact that Snyder, ever since the 2000s, has had to struggle with a reputation for being "crypto-fascist" because of 300 and the fact that he turned a scene in Dawn of the Dead (that ended up having to be cut from the film) from one where a televangelist is ranting that the zombie apocalypse was punishment for abortion on demand/gay marriage in a way that mocked fundie christians, to one that was 100% dead serious and earnest in it's conviction that gay marriage/abortion on demand pissed off God that he sicced a zombie apocalypse upon the world
I fricking hate the vicious attack on artistic freedom from the left and the right so fricking much.
I'm guessing twitter and reddit are going to say it good anyway
Eh normies are against politics in movies now, they just want good stories
You think this actors and writers strike is about wages? No, it's about studios throwing out SJW scripts they have
Depends on how much of it is in their face for how long. A good set piece or two can distract a good percentage of normies from noticing the propaganda being pushed. Most anon reviews highlight big points and not small parts of it like Ken being based to real women who aren't Barbie.
wait it is? where did u get the info from?
so what happens to Will Farrel?
Nothing, he is still the CEO of Mattel
He becomes a billionaire after the playing the Mattel CEO for 40 movies
This is how Tarzan would type if he browsed Cinemaphile
This is what 2 hours of woke shit and half a bottle of rhum does to a man.
This whole right-wing "culture war" obsession is going to keep costing them elections
You people will really call movies with progressive messaging that is apparently this explicit and the main plot and point of the movie, and still try to claim that it is insignificant and that people are getting mad over nothing. I’m sure you unconditionally love films like The Birth of a Nation and don’t get hung up on minor ideological differences within it.
Great point.
I'm unironically voting for pence.
As of right now I'm writing in Ron Paul. If any of the candidates can turn it around and win my vote, I'll change plans.
good luck bro, I'm still Pence.
You're unironically moronic.
The culture war doesn't matter and the right should stop talking about it, but also it's genocide if you don't immediately give progressives what they want at any given point in time.
Honestly you guys ruin the movie for yourselves by making everything about the 'culture war'
Ryan Goslin was great and it was a fun movie so shut the frick up already.
I don’t consider tryhard feminist bullshit fun. I’ll watch the Ken clips on Twitter when they inevitably leak
go watch Ted Lasso cuck
>just swallow the 'ganda, chud
Is it funny bad or bad bad?
Funny bad if you skip the woke speech.
Is it at least funny?
How did the anon movie make you feel?
Pretty accurate
lol. It's a shame we can't make the collective braindead masses read something this, which isn't even a radical perspective, maybe they'd wake up.
where are people watching this? I thought it came out on the 21st
press screenings
>the general public is actually seeing the movie
>there's STILL a fricking review embargo
so what if a french person posts on facebook that the movie sucked they're gonna get a lawsuit?
embargos are a fricking embarrassing joke to prevent loss of revenue from people knowing movies are shit ahead of time
literally scamming innocent people to protect the bottom line
Well, the movie is supposed to release tomorrow, but we had early screening has far back as Sunday. I can say what I went. The studio suppose that French aren't going to review the movie in English.
The movie is going to bomb, they know.
I also saw it. All the problems with American cinema becoming too didactic and political has culminated in Barbie. It's like they went out of their way to make the most patronizing and whiny movie in history. No one has any right to criticize other countries for propaganda when America produces shit like this, just agonizing preachy bullshit about how women in Western societies are oppressed. Maybe if the movie took place in India I would take it seriously. Goose steals the whole movie as everyone expected but aside from that it's insufferable. They could've just made a fun comedy but no, it has to be an audiovisual NPR article about toxic masculinity
just curious
why did you guys decide to see this movie opening day when it's been completely obvious for at least 3 months ahead of time that the movie would be exactly what you're saying it was?
I happen to have a girlfriend
i'm so sorry
my wife wouldn't be caught dead in a barbie theater
The premier in my c**t is in 2 days. The only reason I am going to it is because my, apparently now gf, is obsessed with Barbie. I even bought her a doll and put the tickets inside when I invited her
Yea but it’s good that this lame shit was made and will be huge. Leftist white women always get lead around by the fricking lamest, most obviously soulless corporate shit and then pretend like it never happened when it inevitably ages terribly like what’s currently happening with the lame social justice trend, it’s good that people will have this movie to point to when they’re pretending like they were never on any of this. Feels like they’re being set up for the cultural guillotine.
>Maybe if the movie took place in India I would take it seriously
Black person the reality is not even women living in africa are oppressed
Our country is heading to the same situation like yours
>woke propaganda
Stopped reading. You homosexuals have become Facebook aunts.
This time it a real description of the movie. It was written by Twitter and Reddit
A lot of women in letterbox are giving the movie a positive review https://letterboxd.com/yenas/film/barbie/
letterboxd is full of pretentious morons though so it doesn't really matter
*pretentious morons who think they're funny too.
>the strong woman help her and make all ken fight them self.
So the strong woman was the israelites? has sense
When does the review embargo lift?
7PM. Most critics and audiences will rave, more seasoned critics will hate it, and families will also be annoyed that the movie's marketing is totally bullshit. It's a political satire pretending to be a comedy. Be prepared for a major culture war event to happen when it comes out because women will unanimously love it and use it hate on men
>Be prepared for a major culture war event to happen when it comes out because women will unanimously love it and use it hate on men
>culture war
>women hate men
where have you been the last fifteen years
yep
What fricking pressure? Women are showered with participation trophies and shit like “healthy at every size.” What little denigration they receive comes from other women 90% of the time.
This movie screams a film which will have a great opening weekend money wise b/c the marketing was everywhere + families will take their kids to it without thinking, and then crater week 2 once word of mouth gets out there that this film is like a feminist SJW bomb.
Still, critics were always going to jerk this movie off. It doesn't matter how good it is. It just matters it has the correct message (same as why movies like "Get Out" and "Black Panther" have critic scores comparable to the fricking Godfather).
I can definitely see a sharp second week drop for this film, but with the way ticket presales have looked they're already breaking even. In that respect even if the film is a total piece of shit it had one of the best shill campaigns ever seen
Gotta hand it to WB this time. They've utterly fricking humiliated Nolan
>They've utterly fricking humiliated Nolan
I still think Oppenheimer will do well. It won't hit #1 this weekend but if its as good as, supposedly, people are saying it should have solid legs.
Also Barbie is Barbie - a huge brand. Everyone knows it. It was going to make money regardless.
Oppenheimer is a 3 hour long biographical WWII-era film. It's a harder sell but if it does solid it's still a big success for the kind of film it is.
Humiliated Nolan by increasing the boxoffice prospects for Nolan? Jej. It's tracking to open with the highest ever weekend gross for a biopic.
>(same as why movies like "Get Out" and "Black Panther" have critic scores comparable to the fricking Godfather)
I think I may legitimately have a touch of the 'tism, because I've spent the last few years tearing myself up over the notion that people will just fricking lie to me and themselves and say this shit is the best thing ever made. I wish I could make myself not care about this, but I guess I just can't. The hypocrisy of politics fricking kills me. And, yes, I know that it goes both ways... everyone saying Sound of Freedom is the best thing ever is a fricking moron liar. But, holy shit, there's like one Conservative movie that they do this with a decade and the fricking Liberals are doing it every fricking month now. This shit has to stop.
Anon... you are not alone; plenty of people in the real world feel the way you do. Finding them is the hard part with betrayal sown into this countries fabric since commies took over entertainment and media - but there are others like us out there and not just shitposters on a screen here at Cinemaphile.
>Hollywood can literally embargo criticism worldwide on every major news platform for a shitty movie based on a doll
Totally not a dystopia
can literally embargo criticism worldwide on every major news platform for a shitty movie based on a doll
>Totally not a dystopia
Doesn't really do anything
People actually got meme’d into thinking this would be worth watching
if you watched the trailers it was obvious they were hiding what the movie was about
True, I watched the TV commercials and it's all about barbie and ken go to real world, barbie gets ass grabbed and she punchs the guy, will ferrell screams in 2 small lines at mattel CEO, and Ken goes to an hopistal and a dyke doctor says he can't perform a appendectomy or something like that, but Ken refuses to listen and says that he can do it because "He's a man" and leaves to the surgery room while the dyke doctor calls for security. This last part was funny but not in the way they intended to be i suppose.
Still I was not to watch the film first of all because the ching chong from sang chi was portrayed as "sexy ken", which is stupid by having Ken with Xi Jinping face. Frick this film, and frick the jannies
So the reviews will be available in less than half an hour?
Yes. There's already one positive review now.
I can't decide if I'm having a stroke, you're esl, or you're drunk.
The guardian?
Why would any men would want to see this movie? Especially after that shitty speech?
The funny thing is I bet most women do not want to see this either. These israelites are so tiresome man.
>every RT review positive so far
Cinemaphile wrong YET AGAIN
>implying ~~*hollywood*~~ is going to give a radical feminist manifesto thinly disguised as a children’s movie anything other than a 10
>she is depressed because being a women hard.
Fricking sigh
Grace loved it.
>JUST
I wosh she also loved 20 minutes on stairmaster now and then.
You fricking wienersucker! Don't you ever say that about her! MotherFRICK YOU!
So it's as predictable as everyone thought, and the only thing it has going for it are the sets. Kinda funny looking back at the early hype and people thinking this movie was going to be something new and fresh.
Yeah, it was kinda entertaining while it lasted and the movie could have been fun if it wasn’t made in current year, but it is time to face the music.
>Overwhelmingly positive reviews everywhere
Why is this place full of incels? Isn't that what /LULZ/ is for?
not anymore
Cinemaphile is literally filled with ugly as frick c**ts that have never even kissed a girl. I have no interest in this film either way but this boards opinion on it is worthless since it's for an audience most people here don't have any interaction with outside their mom's
on my Cinemaphile? no way!
yep, then they transition and become more insufferable like you
you scared me
I want that mask. Where is it from?
Party City at the mall
She still won't frick you bro
TLJ
Go type in Barbie on Google
How mush do you have to pay google for that, their maketing budget seem pretty big
No idea. I can't imagine it's cheap though
This current wave of “feminism” was just a trojan horse for global capitalism, the budget is nearly endless. Nobody voted blue/globalist harder than atheists and then an entire generation was influenced into atheism, nobody votes blue and consumes harder than childless white women and it’s about to be a gen. Why feminists so constantly tiptoe around nonwhite rape, abuse, assault, murder and misogyny; hate men but not the kind of hate that’d make you sour on immigration and global capitalism, just the kind that keeps you a childless consumer and worker. Men commit 97% of violent crimes and that’s where we draw the line with stats.
jesus fricking christ
STOP USING /misc/
Stop using Reddit.
There's no war between Cinemaphile and reddit
>MUHH /POOOOOOLL/
go back
Hahah, the ESL board? I never did the /misc/ thing, leftists are so far behind the curve and lame, like desperately closed-minded. Twitter was over a decade ago, grow already.
Stop being a gay.
Feminism is really subversive!
Nothing he said was wrong. It was completely on the nose in every regard.
You might as well be shouting "STOP SPEAKING THE TRUTH", which is kind of the opposite of /misc/ because that board is filled with fricking morons.
>it's da /pooooool/
Brutal blackpill.
This except you didn’t name the ones primarily behind it: j e w s. They were the foremost voices pushing all waves of feminism, from the beginning.
The movie is everywhere. There have been memes all over the place and threads on this board for a while, and even a Wikipedia page about the Barbie/Oppenheimer thing even. There are constant ads on TV channels too, Barbie dreamhouse giveaways and collaboration commercials with cars and insurance. Then there was the literally me factor as well.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbenheimer
How the frick did this movie get shilled so much? Is it just b/c Barbie is marketable?
Also I wonder how parents and kids will feel going into this movie expecting a great family fun film only to get an hour-and-a-half long feminist lecture.
They want to start a Mattel cinematic universe
Warner Bros was absolutely desperate for a hit after the DCEU failed, they probably dumped $200 million on the marketing. Keep in mind that the movie is based on an existing IP so it will make most of its money on merchandising. It's a guaranteed hit
Holy Christ. My wife and I don't have television and I aggressively ad block everything, so I'm completely insulated from mainstream advertising. I had no idea they were going so fricking hard with the marketing.
No, I don't think I will.
I trust Cinemaphile's opinion more on films than websites because the opinions here have no moneyed incentive to them.
I wouldnt. Cinemaphile hates every new movie nowadays
That's becuase most modern movies are dogshit. It's sad and it sucks but you'd have to be delusional, in denial or have incredibly bad taste to think otherwise. It seems most people now are so use to shit films they can't even have a good standard to begin with.
Genuine question - if someone were to have a website/blog site focused on reviewing old films do you think it would draw a crowd of people who similarly feel disenchanted with modern Hollywood shit? (assuming the reviews/write ups were well-written and entertaining, etc)? Just curious. It might be something I consider doing.
Yes, but it would depend on your perspective. I really wouldn't be interested in hearing for the millionth time "yikes, this didn't age well xD" and shit like that. It would be refreshing to hear why the great movies from the past are still interesting, and what it can potentially offer to modern audiences. Inisghts like that would help people today rise their standards.
Yeah. I'd lean towards that too. I tend to try to look at films from the perspective of the time it came out. It's why I don't hold it against a film made back in the 30's or 40's if they have a white actor playing a non-white character. Different times.
First though I need to refine my ability to write critiques. Also I'd probably try to focus more on somewhat forgotten/underrated films. Especially Oscar nominees which time has seemingly forgotten. I figure that means more than if I reviewed a classic where everything that can be said about it has already been said.
Sound good. Even if you don't get a huge audience, I'm sure it'd be like a fulfilling hobby too. Good luck man.
Could work if if you also have a youtube channel to direct people to your blog
Video format might be more successful if that is what you want and are willing to do instead. Not sure how many people read blogs nowadays, especially zoomers like me. Go ahead and do blog form though, if that is what you are more passionate about and are in it primarily to entertain yourself.
I would read it. We need to retvrn to blogs, I hate video essays/reviews
Also that white leftists have just completely had their cultural walls torn down for the sake of melting and now pop culture is their only culture, so immensely bored/privileged and miserable that they genuinely can’t not consume new shit. These people watched The Idol, they loved Succession. They truly can’t not, and they don’t think anything of it. Why so many modern movies are made while considering people that can’t even speak english, white leftists are a fricking lock, they’ll consume most shit no matter what so dumb it down and expand to markets that don’t even speak the language, make The Rock a superstar.
as long as u can tell the shills/disruptors apart
my hype for this movie has diminished, but i thank everyone in this thread
i will not be wasting my money on this. camrip for curiosity
>Memed into watching dyketbusters 2016 tier slop, but with dolls
Why people were expecting something different? Is le current year.
It’s much more heavy-handed and preachy with the feminism than Dykebusters 2016, which was just a really lazy shitty comedy with affirmative action leads forced in.
i want to listen to some of the anons in this thread, but these homies can't even speak english
I got it right away
Good morning sir
>"woke" within the first 15 words
like clockwork
What did you expect?
major critics already are sharting on Barbie, dude, it's over
https://nypost.com/2023/07/18/barbie-review-margot-robbies-mattel-movie-is-lousy/
Latching on to one negative review as if it's the general consensus when a film you don't like is getting good reviews. You gays always do this
damn, sounds like you're here a lot
maybe don't do that if you can't stand the place?
Yikes…..
powerful
Holy frick that's so fricking based. If Margot and Greta actually did frick up this movie while being capable of that I'm just going to be so sad.
you need to control the railways to be a fascist?
did Mussolini stopped being a fascist when he was in prison?
>Gerwig ripping of There Will Be Blood dialogue to criticize patriarchy
I'm sure Cali cuck PTA will approve of this, but it's yikes all around.
Is PTA a cuck? I thought the wokeoids were pissed about Licorice Pizza for making light of racism or something.
>I'm not a fascist! I don't control the flow of commerce!"
cries the movie produced by Mattel and Warner executives to sell more toys and merchandizing tie-ins such as fast food, fashion and cars. Give me a fricking break with this shit. When are normies going to realize that the system criticizing itself does nothing but empower it?
Back to /leftypol/ with you.
>you're a leftist if you acknowledge that israeli movie producers profit from making propaganda movies
Frick off
>hardly any truly funny fish-out-water antics happen in this film
How could they frick up THIS bad?
Well a woman can't be shown struggling at something, even in a light-comedic way
Barbie struggles with drinking a cup of real world tea and also gets shit on by the POC woke bully girl pretty hard.
The latter isn’t comedic and is something the movie fully supports and endorses.
>Each Barbie, you see, has a plastic toy stand-in on earth. For instance, Kate McKinnon’s Barbie (one of the few bright spots) has hacked-off hair and colored lines on her face because a little girl “played too hard” and tossed her in a box.
>But when classic Barbie (Robbie) unexpectedly develops an infatuation with death, discovers cellulite on her belly and gets flat feet, she is forced to venture out into the real world via convertible, boat and rocket ship to set her child owner on the right path.
>The real world here, in a bizarre choice, is Los Angeles. What a missed opportunity.
>LA, needless to say, doesn’t look or behave all that differently than Barbie Land, and hardly any truly funny fish-out-water antics happen in this film.
>Barbie meets Will Ferrell’s Mattel CEO, who, in one of many shrugged-away plot holes, is fully aware of Barbie Land and believes that knowledge of its existence poses some kind of threat to America that’s never fully explained.
Holy frick they just straight up ripped off the premise from the Lego Movie right down to Will Ferrell as the businessman, except they got rid of anything interesting or profound.
There's barely any interplay between the toy world and the real world, and what little there is doesn't make any fricking sense OR speak to how little girls actually interact with the toys because it's autistically literal and unimagnative.
>Kate McKinnon’s Barbie (one of the few bright spots)
Its shit
>LA, needless to say, doesn’t look or behave all that differently than Barbie Land, and hardly any truly funny fish-out-water antics happen in this film.
>Barbie meets Will Ferrell’s Mattel CEO, who, in one of many shrugged-away plot holes, is fully aware of Barbie Land and believes that knowledge of its existence poses some kind of threat to America that’s never fully explained.
Both of these things seem like they could easily be intentional and the message could easily be missed by smoothbrain critics. The second one, for instance, is almost definitely a reference to the Garden of Eden, The Fall of Adam and Eve, and the Cherubim that the critic seemingly doesn't pick up on at all. Greta is religious and got the script by writing a poem about Barbie in the form of the Apostle's Creed. So he's ousted to me as midwit and I can't even remotely trust his criticism to mean anything.
>So he's ousted to me as midwit and I can't even remotely trust his criticism to mean anything.
A far better way of spotting a midwit is someone who thinks an insightful contributon to a conversaton about something is whoever does "spot the allegory" the fastest.
But that's not what I did, moron. I didn't offer it as a contribution to the conversation or suggest it needed to be. I said that his criticism made it seem like he was completely unaware of it as possibly meaningful, and thus was incomplete.
If it doesn't mean anything other than surface level Evangelion tier imagery, particularly because an Adam and Eve connection doesn't really work beyond vague similarities, bringing it up adds nothing and the only reason you would is if you're a homosexual who wants the entire class to know you're aware of another more dignified thing while you watched THIS thing. You don't have to include every little autistic tvtropes citation to make a criticism "complete".
Black person.
Yeah, you're literally fricking moronic. If a critic is seemingly unaware of what their complaint is likely referencing and could possibly render their criticism invalid, I can't trust their criticism without seeing the work. And suggesting an Adam and Even connection doesn't really work beyond vague similarities, when the fricking filmmakers fricking cite utopian realities and what it means to be human as major themes outs you as a massive Black person.
Or because the connection is so obviously moronic it self evidently doesn't need to be brought up because it's a waste of time and the only reason you would need that spelled out is if you're a midwit whose thought process begins and ends at "I KNOW WHAT THAT IS".
>And suggesting an Adam and Even connection doesn't really work beyond vague similarities, when the fricking filmmakers fricking cite utopian realities
Yes, the author can have an intent and fail at communicating that point because the core thesis behind it is fricking moronic and the author themselves is a fricking moron.
The central premise of this movie is an exploration of feminism and specifically patriarchy theory while also going out of its way to reify transgenderism. The cornerstone of patriarchy theory is that men leveraged their biological differences from women, namely their physical strength and the fact women carry offspring (directly referenced in the movie!) which can be forced on them through sexual intercourse, to oppress women and turn them into a permanent underclass. Transgenderism posits that biological difference between the sexes are trivial and one sex identifying as the other is valid enough to make them so in the eyes of society. A women can identify as a man and escape or even join patriarchy, while a man can identify as a women and be just as oppressed by patriarchy as women are even though he still possesses the ability to physically overpower and (forcibly) impregnate them.
These are inherently contradictory beliefs which are zero sum and inherently cannot coexist. Do you think that they aren't simply because Gerwig says they aren't and said so in her movie? Or do you think she's a fricking moron whose core beliefs are inconsistent and stupid despite ostensibly making an art piece about them and who can be easily dismissed?
anon you nailed it, all feminist movements right now are in this interregnum where they can't make up their minds about what exactly womanhood is and can't take a clear stance about empowering females. this movie seems to be following the trend, having themes of motherhood and patriarchy but still not defining what makes a woman inherently a woman since it presumes that society invents it as a category through culture and consumerism. the movie will probably be just as contradictory as feminism is
>interregnum
I learned a new word. Thanks Anon!
>I know more than the author
It's ok to be autist but not an arrogant pretentious pseudo intellectual gay.
I do not think that transgenderism is valid, so yes by definition I know more than Gerwig's moronic ass. Particularly since she made an entire movie dedicated to the concept of womanhood while having a schizophrenic self-defeating definition of it that actively undermines her own principles and political goals. If you are naive enough not to think so, look at how much the response to Roe v Wade being overturned was derailed by the constant infighting about how to construct the emotional framing around the topic of abortion as a women's issue while also sufficiently centering trannies at every single possible opportunty.
Death of the author is more than just a justification for writing fan fiction of two fictional men cumming in each other's asses, you know.
Allegory/symbolism shouldn't be at the expense of your story. Allegories/symbolism doesn't make a movie good in and off itself. It's peak nidwit to think otherwise.
I support you, ignore the bad faith trolls
You're the sort of person who thinks Nier Automata has a deep story.
She’s not religious at all. At most, she occasionally LARPs at pretending to believe in a
>God is real, and she’s black
version of religion.
Kate McKinnon being a "bright spot" is the most disturbing part of anything you wrote.
Is the snyder stuff real?
>he sees that the real world has patriarchy
Be specific. What, exactly, does he see?
>barbie land go back to normal with ken having a bit of power.
>the movie end with Barbie becoming a real women and the goes to the gynecologist and credit rolls.
yeah hard pass
Reminder that Ryan Gosling isn’t based. He read the script and agreed with everything in it enough to represent these ideals through his craft.
>isn’t based
Holy shit, he isn’t friggin based? Not watching this lame predictably-subversive feminist/corporate shit but hearing he completely steals the show, and hearing it from actual people rather than meme-brained anons.
30 minutes? How ever did you survive?
Good morning sir
Is there any jokes or Easter eggs on other Mattel toys or characters? Specifically She-Ra?
>they made Ken the villain
Damn. They went the Gaiman route.
Cinemaphile lost. Again.
Cinemaphile is rooting for /ourguy/ Goose. its /misc/ tourists that have been crying about how "woke" a movie about a toy for little girls is.
>Goose
who
go back
I read this little tidbit in the lukewarm Guardian review
>(The movie does not acknowledge the alternative theory, that Barbie was named after Barbara Ryan, wife of Mattel’s chief designer Jack Ryan whose life-story gives us an actual #Barbenheimer connection: before designing Barbie for Mattel, he designed missiles for the Pentagon as an employee of aerospace giant Raytheon, an important player in the postwar military-industrial complex.)
Everything is truly a psyop, isn't it?
My 12 year old sister wants me to bring her to this movie and Oppenheimer
What do? I don’t want her seeing this woke shit
maybe she'll enjoy it as a comedy. not barbie, oppenheimer i mean
I’d say bring her to Barbie if she really wants to see it, if she doesn’t care too much and you can get away with it, then don’t bring her. Appearing as controlling and shielding to ideas that she will eventually be exposed to and know anyways is not good. Better to appear respectful of her independence for minor stuff like viewing a propaganda movie and it also gives you a position to criticize the points you disagree with in the movie, rather than from an authoritarian controlling one.
Maybe don't bring your kid sister to a PG13 and an R-rated movie either...
Is bibble in this?
so what happened to gosling's ken?
This film sounds really outdated. Like early-to-mid 2010s feminist drivel outdated.
I'd rather go back to 2010s feminism.
Simu Liu is headlining this fricking movie and just nailing his A-List role as Ken! He is the hidden star of this film and brining respect to Alpha Asian males!
>goes to the gynecologist and credit rolls.
lol
>He has a fetish with horse
oh frick he really is literally me
Apart from the POC Greta Gerwing self-insert's first world problems -esque rant, it wasn't that bad.
Should have cast Sarah Gadon.
Sarah Gadon would have saved it