I'd say mythology is the proto-capeshit. Yes, it was tied more to culture, but so is capeshit, especially at this point. That isn't to say all capeshit is bad though.
>I'd say mythology is the proto-capeshit
i had this idea when i was 15 and thought myself incredibly perspicacious and deep (even wanted to read Grant Morrison's book on the subject, but ended up not doing so), then ~7 years later i saw an actual adult post it on Twitter as if it's some deep insight. embarrassing
The last 10 years have been the longest chain of frick ups and failures I've ever seen from a movie studio. Probably the biggest series of blunders a movie studio has ever made, ever. I mean it was just critical failure after bomb after failure for a decade. Multiple movies became cultural touchstones because of how bad they were. We'll never see it again.
I called it back in 2016, they fricked up by immediately doing a crossover movie as a sequel and shoving so many characters into it.
All they had to do was >Man of Steel >Batflek solo film >Flash or Wonder Woman >Justice League
This was all they had to do to get a decent start, from there they could've done anything, but the execs got greedy, probably greenlit BvS because they thought they would get the same effect as Avengers.
My guess is they were worried that superheroes were already on the way out and they figured they needed to get their money while they could before people were over capeshit. Like who really thought this shit would last 15 years and counting? Basically every other series or extended universe in cinema history only made it 3-4 movies before people were sick of them.
Joker didn’t flop. And the sequel is going to be epic. It’s a musical and it will be insane. Frick every DC character except The Joker and every Marvel character except Loki.
Agreed. Assuming the rumors are true, what can they possibly expect to accomplish in a merger with Paramount? Paramount has a track record of financial failure from churning out expensive (and terrible) Trek slop. It’s like two raging alcoholics getting married to make everything better somehow.
The DCEU's life truly was the story of perpetually missed opportunities
They came in late in the capeshit war with Marvel already being well established, but they had the merit of having their own separate style.
But they went too fast, tried to go straight to the big crossover, and when fan reaction wasn't there they scrapped it and eventually let go of the one guy who had a vision to not set them to perpetually lick Marvel's shoes.
I have no doubt in my mind that if DC had kept the direction Snyder had envisioned it would be more popular than Marvel now, at least for a time.
>TESLAS BAD NOW
Teslas have always been bad, it's always been exclusively west coast homosexuals shilling those shitty autism cars. Anybody that knows anything about software has known Musk has been lying about FSD for years. Tesla knows FSD doesn't work, they've always known, that just didn't stop them from selling overpriced RC cars to moronic homosexuals.
It would never be an effective lesson because no one would ever believe that management could be that fricking moronic without being fired several years ago
it's truly fricking insane because Warner Bros own all the film and TV rights for ALL the DC superheroes. Marvel had to make due with their scattered, fricked up ass rights distribution situation where Fox owned the X-Men, Sony own Spider-Man, and Universal have the frickin' Hulk and whatever else. half their best shit was in limbo being used to produce TASM2 and X-Men Dark Phoenix, movies that at the time were completely disconnected from the MCU and doing nobody any favors. and despite all that working against them, they still made it across the Avengers Endgame finish line light-years ahead of DC. it's sincerely fricking baffling, i have no idea how you can mismanage every possible conceivable advantage to such a goddamn spectacular degree.
Vidya adaptations and toy adaptations by the looks of it. I'd be really hard pressed to call it superior. It's simply fresher, but it too will become stale in time.
Cause while MoS and BvS still weren't flops, they didn't make contempirary Marvel money
Walter Hamada wanted Marvel money
I doubt it Superman Legacy will make heyday Marvel money though
It had a shitty foundation. Man of Steel wasnt supposed to be the start of a shared universe, but it was made into one.. which okay, it worked I guess.. but then they followed up with a movie where Batman and Superman fight each other. Like.. why? Its like civil war being the second MCU movie; it doesnt make sense. Then they jumped straight into Justice League without establishing the characters first.
It's basically what happens when executives think of short term profits. They want Avengers money and they wanted it NOW, to look good for the next quarter.. then JL flopped because nobody cared. And its just been a total mess since then.
You dont build a castle with a shitty foundation, period. It'll collapse eventually.
James Gunn feels like a general behind a desk sending his troops out to die every day in meaningless battles. Like what is he actually doing on a day to day basis?
is getting the next set of movies ready that he'll be overseeing, which will probably fall through after the first movie
wasn't much for him to really do with the last few movies other than dealing with some reshoots
I don't like capeshit but I still think that the second Suicide Squad movie was the best dc movie and better than any of the stuff that Marvel has released.
The DCEU was unfortunately a total mess, which is a shame because DC has fantastic storylines.
I'd say I was optimistic with the new DCU under James Gunn, but I fear that the days of comic book movies selling well might be over. So even if Superman Legacy is good, it would probably be lucky to hit $700M worldwide.
This shit was a zombie ever since Gunn took over in 2022. And it barely resembled what it used to be by that point. It was effectively dead after Josstice League.
This looks like it might be laughably bad rather than just boring as frick like Black Adam. I can't believe just how much this franchise has bombed. They need to take a few years out and start from scratch with a new Superman or Batman.
Warner Bros keep acting like they chose to end the DCEU, no homie, we retired your shit cause it was ass. get it together you frickin' bozos or we're retiring James Gunn's shit for you too. lmao
pls let capeshit go the way of the cowboy
i really hope this isn’t a dig at westerns. a lot of those movies are fantastic despite an overwhelming amount of crap.
no, just of their fate as the genre died. i just really fricking hate capeshit.
I mean, there is good capeshit, too. But if the genre is mostly crap then it will be chosen for death. But everything is cyclical.
Westerns were simply proto-capeshit
I'd say mythology is the proto-capeshit. Yes, it was tied more to culture, but so is capeshit, especially at this point. That isn't to say all capeshit is bad though.
>I'd say mythology is the proto-capeshit
i had this idea when i was 15 and thought myself incredibly perspicacious and deep (even wanted to read Grant Morrison's book on the subject, but ended up not doing so), then ~7 years later i saw an actual adult post it on Twitter as if it's some deep insight. embarrassing
So is James Bond
Bond is honestly worse tbh
Boomer nostalgia capeshit for a world they gladly shut the door on their way out
Nah, at least Bond knows what it is (not counting the try hard Craig era) and Bond isn't wearing colorful clown tights
Good riddance
Let it rot.
what a fricking mess
has a franchise every been this fricked?
the worst part is that we never got a proper Superman sequel
>never got a proper Superman movie
ftfy
>a proper Superman movie
We did, the first Reeve one.
The last 10 years have been the longest chain of frick ups and failures I've ever seen from a movie studio. Probably the biggest series of blunders a movie studio has ever made, ever. I mean it was just critical failure after bomb after failure for a decade. Multiple movies became cultural touchstones because of how bad they were. We'll never see it again.
>has a franchise every been this fricked?
Star Wars.
I'll never forgive Snyder/WB for fricking up Henry Cavil's Superman.
I called it back in 2016, they fricked up by immediately doing a crossover movie as a sequel and shoving so many characters into it.
All they had to do was
>Man of Steel
>Batflek solo film
>Flash or Wonder Woman
>Justice League
This was all they had to do to get a decent start, from there they could've done anything, but the execs got greedy, probably greenlit BvS because they thought they would get the same effect as Avengers.
My guess is they were worried that superheroes were already on the way out and they figured they needed to get their money while they could before people were over capeshit. Like who really thought this shit would last 15 years and counting? Basically every other series or extended universe in cinema history only made it 3-4 movies before people were sick of them.
Yet they're planning an entire relaunch when audiences are sick of capeshit now.
We already knew it was over when they hired Gunn. Wtf are you spamming this shit
What happened
Did aquaman flop
Aquaman flopped. The Flash flopped. Black Adam flopped. Blue Beetle flopped. DC is a legacy of flops
Frick capeshit but didnt the first Aquaman do over a billion?
Joker didn’t flop. And the sequel is going to be epic. It’s a musical and it will be insane. Frick every DC character except The Joker and every Marvel character except Loki.
I remember being 13 years old.
Ah what times.
It's on track to flop harder than The Marvels.
MARTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I’m pretty sure it’s the reason why WB is in such a poor state financially.
I think the Flash cost them more, bigger budget
Agreed. Assuming the rumors are true, what can they possibly expect to accomplish in a merger with Paramount? Paramount has a track record of financial failure from churning out expensive (and terrible) Trek slop. It’s like two raging alcoholics getting married to make everything better somehow.
I personally want the show to go on, so I say yes please.
The DCEU's life truly was the story of perpetually missed opportunities
They came in late in the capeshit war with Marvel already being well established, but they had the merit of having their own separate style.
But they went too fast, tried to go straight to the big crossover, and when fan reaction wasn't there they scrapped it and eventually let go of the one guy who had a vision to not set them to perpetually lick Marvel's shoes.
I have no doubt in my mind that if DC had kept the direction Snyder had envisioned it would be more popular than Marvel now, at least for a time.
>TESLAS BAD NOW
>TESLAS BAD NOW
Teslas have always been bad, it's always been exclusively west coast homosexuals shilling those shitty autism cars. Anybody that knows anything about software has known Musk has been lying about FSD for years. Tesla knows FSD doesn't work, they've always known, that just didn't stop them from selling overpriced RC cars to moronic homosexuals.
>era of capeshit
>own the biggest superheroes out there
>manage to completely frick it up
The DCEU arc should be taught in schools because it's full of important lessons of how to not manage your IPs
It would never be an effective lesson because no one would ever believe that management could be that fricking moronic without being fired several years ago
it's truly fricking insane because Warner Bros own all the film and TV rights for ALL the DC superheroes. Marvel had to make due with their scattered, fricked up ass rights distribution situation where Fox owned the X-Men, Sony own Spider-Man, and Universal have the frickin' Hulk and whatever else. half their best shit was in limbo being used to produce TASM2 and X-Men Dark Phoenix, movies that at the time were completely disconnected from the MCU and doing nobody any favors. and despite all that working against them, they still made it across the Avengers Endgame finish line light-years ahead of DC. it's sincerely fricking baffling, i have no idea how you can mismanage every possible conceivable advantage to such a goddamn spectacular degree.
And yet DC movies will still be shit
What's next for film after capeshit?
Vidya adaptations and toy adaptations by the looks of it. I'd be really hard pressed to call it superior. It's simply fresher, but it too will become stale in time.
The Flush already wiped out Man of Steel and Cavill Superman from continuity though
How did it fricking fail?
Cause while MoS and BvS still weren't flops, they didn't make contempirary Marvel money
Walter Hamada wanted Marvel money
I doubt it Superman Legacy will make heyday Marvel money though
Desperately trying to compete with the MCU instead of doing their own thing at the right pace
It had a shitty foundation. Man of Steel wasnt supposed to be the start of a shared universe, but it was made into one.. which okay, it worked I guess.. but then they followed up with a movie where Batman and Superman fight each other. Like.. why? Its like civil war being the second MCU movie; it doesnt make sense. Then they jumped straight into Justice League without establishing the characters first.
It's basically what happens when executives think of short term profits. They want Avengers money and they wanted it NOW, to look good for the next quarter.. then JL flopped because nobody cared. And its just been a total mess since then.
You dont build a castle with a shitty foundation, period. It'll collapse eventually.
James Gunn feels like a general behind a desk sending his troops out to die every day in meaningless battles. Like what is he actually doing on a day to day basis?
Blame Walter Hamada instead
Gunn had nothing to do with the recent shitty films
is getting the next set of movies ready that he'll be overseeing, which will probably fall through after the first movie
wasn't much for him to really do with the last few movies other than dealing with some reshoots
Who has the roach burger?
This is how the DCCU ends, good riddance
I don't get it. Why is he eating a roach?
where's the joke?
This is the very last scene
https://twitter.com/godsandmortaIs/status/1737645352000553068
They really didn't give a shit about this flick.
I don't like capeshit but I still think that the second Suicide Squad movie was the best dc movie and better than any of the stuff that Marvel has released.
Wow, and it's only been like 6 years(?) since the wb execs actively tried to destroy this universe?
The long national nightmare is over
>disney Star Wars dead
>WB capeshit dead
will Disney Capeshit finally die ?
Don’t know if it was part of the DCEU but I thought Swamp Thing was pretty good. They cancelled it after 1 season.
James Wan is pretty solid. (not sure about new Aquaman anyways)
He should have been in charge of the DCEU and it would have curb stomped MCU .
Zachary Levi and Ray Fisher from the DCEU have both played love interest to Sarah Gadon
SARS ... why didn't you redeem the Snyderverse ... WHY DIDNT YOU REDEEM
capeshit is over, now begins the age of wokeslop
The DCEU was unfortunately a total mess, which is a shame because DC has fantastic storylines.
I'd say I was optimistic with the new DCU under James Gunn, but I fear that the days of comic book movies selling well might be over. So even if Superman Legacy is good, it would probably be lucky to hit $700M worldwide.
This shit was a zombie ever since Gunn took over in 2022. And it barely resembled what it used to be by that point. It was effectively dead after Josstice League.
Marvel next please
the dceu never had a chance
james gunn will kill DC for good Joker 2 and the Batman 2 will make more money than Superman Legacy
Fricking finally. It’ll be nice to have DC films not tied to Hack Snyder
This looks like it might be laughably bad rather than just boring as frick like Black Adam. I can't believe just how much this franchise has bombed. They need to take a few years out and start from scratch with a new Superman or Batman.
Warner Bros keep acting like they chose to end the DCEU, no homie, we retired your shit cause it was ass. get it together you frickin' bozos or we're retiring James Gunn's shit for you too. lmao