Breaking bad is actually mediocre, I seriously don't get the praise. It's drama for children with lines and scenes that are trying to be "epic" and have a stupid unrealistic build up
>contrarians acting like BB isnt on the same level of The Sopranos
stop it.
Breaking Bad is fricking trash. Nobody is an actual character, they're all plot devices that act completely randomly according to what the plot requires
The Sopranos is a literal masterpiece that changed the landscape of Television forever. Breaking Bad isn't bad, but it's sub-par when compared to The Sopranos.
maybe it had a bad ending but it was a show that everybody talked about and became a part of pop culture. You dont get to that level by it being just an OK show.
Thats literally exactly how you get to that level.
Talking about stuff doesn't signal anything about quality. Like someone mentioned, same thing with Jersey Shore and Love Island.
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The best of television is more akin to novels, if you like long form storytelling then it's a medium worth getting into. If not then probably not your speed.
everybody knew Jersey Shore was low-brow tv and it was entertaining in its own way. Actual TV shows intend to be taken seriously and if lots of people watch and talk about it then it's doing somethgin right
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Most people literally have no taste, just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good, Game of Thrones is an example. It had a bunch of stuff in it for the easily entertained but no lasting power in discussion beyond its airing
Thats literally exactly how you get to that level.
Talking about stuff doesn't signal anything about quality. Like someone mentioned, same thing with Jersey Shore and Love Island.
Are any of these meme shows worth watching? Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad and the Italian guy one?
Hell is it worth "getting into television"?
I've only seen Twin Peaks but I just treated it as a long Lynch film.
The best of television is more akin to novels, if you like long form storytelling then it's a medium worth getting into. If not then probably not your speed.
Succession was the death rattle. It was pretty kino, but I don’t have a desire to rewatch anytime soon unlike the sopranos. There are unironically no new shows worth looking forward to.
Lost
Game of Thrones
Sopranos
Breaking Bad
The Shield
Deadwood
Mad Men
Justified
24
True Detective
The Wire
Six Feet Under
The West Wing
The Office
Dexter
All are GOATs, all aired within a ten year timeframe. Give me even a fraction of that list for shows between 2015 and 2023
Whatever. There's no denying that Lost was a cultural landmark in its heyday. Who the frick is saying that about Ted Lasso or whatever the frick is on these days
most of your list is boring unimaginative shit >Fargo >Peaky Blinders >Daredevil >Musketeers >Black Sails >Better Call Saul >House of the Dragon >Arrow
>Under the Dome
That's a pile of steaming shit. A Lost-wannabe with more questions than answers. The book is also garbage but it is still better because it is not woke goy slop but a proper King book.
I think it's been over since 2017 maybe. Then it was Peak TV which is also over since the number of shows isn't growing anymore.
I think what happens next is that television moves away from the anti hero centered dramas like Sopranos or Mad Men and we see more other types of prestige dramas. Succession wasn't similar to other golden age shows for the most part, it had more in common with something like The West Wing.
I'd put my money on something similar to Six Feet Under being the next big critically acclaimed long form drama. Pachinko might be it.
when you are writing a movie or whatever, you may want to have a scene or dialog but people will get mad at the subject matter, so it forces you to change it to something 'safe' and it takes away from the quality of the movie. Do this 10x over a whole project and the overall quality is not what it should be.
Golden age ended with the Mad Men series finale. The period after that was 'peak tv' because of the volume of series made, not quality. Both golden age & peak tv are over re:
Everything now is a half hour series (whether its a comedy or drama) or a limited series.
The ~45 minute long form Drama that goes for 5 seasons doesn't seem to be a priority anymore. This year so far it's only been Succession which was it's finale season and The Last of Us which is definitely going to fall apart in it's second season.
>It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came too late for that and I know. But lately, I'm getting the feeling that I came in at the end. The best is over.
>millennials and their fricking lasagna soap opera
TON' IS SAD. WHY YOU SAD, TON'? WHYDONNA YOU GO SEE A DOCTOR, TON'? IS YOU SAD ABOUT YA MUDDA, TON'? ARE YA AGGRESSIVE CUZ YA MUDDA DIDDEN RESPECK YA, TON'? HAVE-A SOME GABAGOOL, TON'...
I don’t think multi season dramas are good. It’s basically the same as a studio planned franchise of movies. They can have good elements like I wouldn’t ever say James Gandolfini is a bad actor but I don’t think as a whole long running series are good beyond placating people.
Golden age was somewhere around 2010-2015.
Yes, the Golden Age was just Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead. Regardless of what you think of them, at that time TV shows were ascending into a new format and surpassing film, regardless of what you think of any of those 3 shows at that time you could expect big budget kinos to come out constantly.
It's a shame that the creative era was kind of watered down and then killed by Netflix flooding the market with low budget shit. COVID was the nail in the coffin, the quality and hype around TV shows hasn't been replicated. Maybe Squid Games is the last show to have major cultural impact, House of the Dragon is just GoT extended content.
I don't know why the Sopranos is in the OP, that show was a diamond in the rough, buried in a sea of sitcoms and cop dramas
It was over long ago. The 2000's were the golden age. Around the end of that decade, the writers strikes started, and TV never recovered.
Also putting breaking bad next to the sopranos confirms whoever made that video has rocks in their head.
first golden age - from 1999 to 2007 - sopranos and the shield ends
second golden age - from 2007 to 2015 - breaking bad and mad men ends
people can say Succession or Better Call Saul was good...but let it's be honest...this shit was mid at best. Nobody is going to remember Succession. People are still gonna watch The Sopranos.
Think whatever you want of the quality but a show with that type of break-neck pacing can't possibly be boring. The episodes are way too busy, it's the anti-thesis of most 'prestige tv'.
all the diversity hires and nepo babys in 2020 leave very few roles left for merit based hiring.
i imagine in past cohorts, roles were filled somewhat 40% by merit, 60% by nepotism with the 40% merit slowly growing larger over time as talented merit hires grew in influence within the industry and the talentless nepo hires fell off, leaving mostly only the nepo hires that are somewhat competent remaining.
but now i imagine it's more like 10% merit hires, 40% diversity hires and 50% nepotism hires, which would prevent the merit hires from growing enough to actually create any good tv, and since the nepo babys are no longer having to compete with the merit hires as much, they are instead only having to compete with the equally talentless diversity hires, meaning the talentless nepo hires simply aren't getting pushed out of the industry as much as they were previously due to their de-facto less competition.
The Americans
Masters of Sex
True Detective
Fargo
Halt and Catch Fire
The Leftovers
The Knick
Better Call Saul
Mr. Robot
Narcos
The Night of
Westworld
The Young Pope
Taboo
Mindhunter
The Terror
There is no "golden age" of television. There are the best television shows of each decade, like for the 2010s. Breaking Bad and Sopranos would probably be the best shows for the 2000s.
Game of Thrones was a much bigger cultural phenomenon than both of those shows, however pretty much everyone acknowledges that Breaking Bad was the best show of the past 2 decades.
I find interesting how The Walking Dead (even season 1) gets constantly ignored by "tv enthusiasts" when making these lists, it's like when you have a bad breakup with your gf and want nothing to do with her even though it was the love of your life at some point.
Does having the majority of seasons being bad/average of a show deny the quality and cultural impact of the first season(s)? Why isn't this the case with Dexter or Game of Thrones too? (both famous cases of shows going to shit) what does make the decline of The Walking Dead so special even though it objectively contributed to reshape television?
Personally, no amount of gaslighting will ever convince me that TWD was never good.
It is hard to judge without context of the rest of the show. It is an interesting and compelling show until you understand how they just kept repeating it.
I think it's an issue with tv shows where the whole matters more than the sum. The walking dead had 1 good season of like 8. After 1 it literally became a so(y)ap opera that guys could also enjoy. This show was basically carried by it's first season and the popularity of epicly killing zombies ftw. When those ran dry, it lost most cultural relevance, despite still airing for years.
Live-action realistic fiction is shit. Sci-fi, fantasy, horror, cartoons, and nonfiction are infinitely more interesting than the ten millionth sitcom or crime drama.
We've had almost 20 years straight of >the main protagonist is.....actually le piece of shit! isn't that alternative as heck!?
In most popular/"""AAA""" shows. I think people are sick of it and are ready for something else.
Yeah, the decline in writing talent is pretty apparent even on the better networks like HBO, the stuff that's getting raved about would be cancelled after one season back in 2012.
Is it a writing talent decline or as mentioned 100 times during the strike, the structure of writing rooms and all around television development being garbage?
Writers have been pretty explicit in the fact they couldn't work on scripts as long as they could because of the whole "mini rooms" thing, and creators being inexperienced and not doing age old things like mapping out a series beforehand (story bibles)
I contend this is the worst time to be a TV viewer, in terms of watching top quality stuff, if only because of how many different companies you have to pay to get all of the better stuff. In the past you needed, what, cable + HBO? Now it's a nightmare, and obviously WAAAY worse value for money.
Couldn't say. Never watched Breaking Bad nor The Sopranos and have zero desire to do so now. People say they're "kino" so I'll just have to take your word for it. Not worth my time.
>HBO used to have deadwood, carnivale, six feet under, the sopranos, the wire and rome with new seasons coming out within the same year >after their last great show succession now they have literally nothing
What went so wrong so fricking fast BROS?
Those shows came out under Michael Lombardo's era as head of programming. Casey Bloys took over in 2016 and HBO hasn't been the same imo. It's riding off its older reputation but thats already ran out.
What happened to all those tv directors from the golden age anyways? Tim Van Patten, Allan Taylor and all those guys? They directed some of the best episodes in the history of television, surely HBO can call them to make something good again right?
I believe Patten directed an episode or two of Perry Mason, the most recent show I saw Allan Taylor credits for was Interview with the Vampire.
Not sure how HBO can turn it around really. Bloys crowning achievement during his era thus far is Succession (I looked it up, Lombardo is the one who green lit The Deuce). HBO recently turned down the new David Chase series which makes no sense, FX picked it up. HBO just isn't picking up good projects lately.
>everyone sucking off sopranos this hard
I'm watching it for the first time now and its great, revolutionary even, but I am not getting the "nothing on its level, makes everything else look worse" feeling at all. Great acting, characters, slow burn plot, but it also drags sometimes and can feel like its going in circles. I am starting season 4 and sometimes it feels like all that happened in an episode is a few characters like each other slightly less than they did at the beginning.
Can't say for sure, I just got into it a year ago and watch a couple episodes with friends a month so I'm only on season 4. I think its supposed to stay pretty consistent until you get into the 90s.
>Game of Thrones in the same tier as Sopranos and Breaking Bad
>Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad in the same tier as Sopranos
but who the frick watched the sopranos?
Dont know a single person alive that knows about it.
Game of thrones however went global
frick you talking about you piece of shit mongoloid fricking homosexual c**t, I'll kill you you piece of shit. Just kidding
>Game of thrones however went global
>but who the frick watched the sopranos?
people couldn't shut up about sopranos when it was airing, you 13 yo zoomer
quite
I keep seeing BB compared to Sopranos and that makes me feel like nobody actually watches shows, they just want an opinion.
I tried bb and I just can't, it's beyond awful
Breaking bad is actually mediocre, I seriously don't get the praise. It's drama for children with lines and scenes that are trying to be "epic" and have a stupid unrealistic build up
Next you're gonna tell me they filmed it with a camera you crazy nut
>contrarians acting like BB isnt on the same level of The Sopranos
stop it.
Breaking Bad is a shonen anime
Breaking Bad is good. Great even. But Sopranos is G.O.A.T. It's on an entirely different level.
Breaking Bad is fricking trash. Nobody is an actual character, they're all plot devices that act completely randomly according to what the plot requires
The Sopranos is a literal masterpiece that changed the landscape of Television forever. Breaking Bad isn't bad, but it's sub-par when compared to The Sopranos.
Fricking this
I just can't enjoy any TV show after watching The Sopranos
I should've watched it last
This right here.
It's an honor to share a board with people with taste.
Salud
dis
jesus how far we have fallen
ugh the sopranos snobs are here
they're like jazz lovers, absolutely NOTHING can even compare apparently (even tho oz iz better...shhh! tho)
>game of kino
>in the same tier as shitalien slop
>anything past S4
>good
lmao
GOT is probably the best tv series in history
I can’t think of anything that comes close
Amazing how regularly people prove they have absolutely no taste, no way you believe this.
maybe it had a bad ending but it was a show that everybody talked about and became a part of pop culture. You dont get to that level by it being just an OK show.
everybody also talked about The Jersey Shore
everybody knew Jersey Shore was low-brow tv and it was entertaining in its own way. Actual TV shows intend to be taken seriously and if lots of people watch and talk about it then it's doing somethgin right
Most people literally have no taste, just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good, Game of Thrones is an example. It had a bunch of stuff in it for the easily entertained but no lasting power in discussion beyond its airing
Thats literally exactly how you get to that level.
Talking about stuff doesn't signal anything about quality. Like someone mentioned, same thing with Jersey Shore and Love Island.
The best of television is more akin to novels, if you like long form storytelling then it's a medium worth getting into. If not then probably not your speed.
lmao. I'm watching S1 again and it's a shame had bad it became after a couple seasons.
GOT is a lowbrow TV for coomers.
T&A junk.
Breakingbad chads SWEEPED GoT at the emmys, fricking kneel
>breaking bad in the same tier as the sopranos
Succession was the death rattle. It was pretty kino, but I don’t have a desire to rewatch anytime soon unlike the sopranos. There are unironically no new shows worth looking forward to.
Succession is not rewatchable because the series ended perfectly
It's not rewatchable because there's nothing to chew on and you didn't miss anything the first time.
>golden age
>kaleesi
nah
Frick yeah!
Kelly C!
There was no "Golden Age of TV". You could count the "great" shows on your hands.
Wrong. 2004-2014 was unimaginably based
Lost
Game of Thrones
Sopranos
Breaking Bad
The Shield
Deadwood
Mad Men
Justified
24
True Detective
The Wire
Six Feet Under
The West Wing
The Office
Dexter
All are GOATs, all aired within a ten year timeframe. Give me even a fraction of that list for shows between 2015 and 2023
>Lost
>based tv show
I mean if you like slop that has no meaning or purpose and like keys being dangled in front of you sure.
Whatever. There's no denying that Lost was a cultural landmark in its heyday. Who the frick is saying that about Ted Lasso or whatever the frick is on these days
>Cultural landmark
I remover the seethe after homosexuals
Many homosexuals thought it was strange I didn’t watch it
Then it was quickly forgotten
Remember*
You forgot House
Buffy and Farscape log all these shows.
I just started watching Farscape and cant believe its not talked about more/higher ranked
Sure, if you're a 14 year old dork
Game of Thrones and True Detective shouldn't be here...
most of your list is boring unimaginative shit
>Fargo
>Peaky Blinders
>Daredevil
>Musketeers
>Black Sails
>Better Call Saul
>House of the Dragon
>Arrow
You call someone else list shit but you are listing peaky blinders, fargoslop and capeshitslop lmaooo
all of them better than fricking snoozefests like breaking bad and sloprano
nvm I didn't notice it was bait my mind skipped the House of dragon text
literally not an argument
Better Call Saul, and maybe Fargo and Black Sails are the only good shows here.
Is this bait?
name a better show
The larry sanders show
>Daredevil
>Arrow
>Peaky blinders
Great bait anon
post a better show
>inb4 breaking bad
>inb4 sopranos
no
The Wiggles
great bait anon
>there wasn't just 10 good shows...there was 15!
you forgot a couple of masterpieces of kino sci-fi
>Under the Dome
>The 4400
and most of your list sucks ass
>Under the Dome
That's a pile of steaming shit. A Lost-wannabe with more questions than answers. The book is also garbage but it is still better because it is not woke goy slop but a proper King book.
this list is mostly garbage and you missed out some actually good shows.
how could you forget The Newsroom?
Anon, everyone has forgotten newsroom.
>Lost
Oof, bad start.
Just pop in Monk real quick to that list.
You'll thank me later.
>Lost
frick off, just cause it's memed on Cinemaphile doesn't make it good. do you include dark knight rises in your list of greatest films?
Yes, israelites control Hollywood now
I think it's been over since 2017 maybe. Then it was Peak TV which is also over since the number of shows isn't growing anymore.
I think what happens next is that television moves away from the anti hero centered dramas like Sopranos or Mad Men and we see more other types of prestige dramas. Succession wasn't similar to other golden age shows for the most part, it had more in common with something like The West Wing.
I'd put my money on something similar to Six Feet Under being the next big critically acclaimed long form drama. Pachinko might be it.
once politics became the main point and anything controversial was not allowed then it was over for TV and movies.
How so?
when you are writing a movie or whatever, you may want to have a scene or dialog but people will get mad at the subject matter, so it forces you to change it to something 'safe' and it takes away from the quality of the movie. Do this 10x over a whole project and the overall quality is not what it should be.
Golden age ended with the Mad Men series finale. The period after that was 'peak tv' because of the volume of series made, not quality. Both golden age & peak tv are over re:
Everything now is a half hour series (whether its a comedy or drama) or a limited series.
The ~45 minute long form Drama that goes for 5 seasons doesn't seem to be a priority anymore. This year so far it's only been Succession which was it's finale season and The Last of Us which is definitely going to fall apart in it's second season.
test
Mine?
High
It was over when Boardwalk Empire didn't live up to its potential
yup
If only they would’ve kept Michael Pitt.
America has been in cultural decline for the past 10 years
America never had a culture that even could decline to begin with
Wait did the Nazis hate the KKK? Why?
I'm not sure, but it definitely seems like they didn't particularly like the KKK.
The KKK was mainly an anti-catholic organisation run by israelites, that’s why they burned crosses
>America never had a culture that even could decline to begin with
>t. Pedro Deshawn Smith Floyd
the golden age of everything is over.
Golden age of sexbots is coming.
>It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came too late for that and I know. But lately, I'm getting the feeling that I came in at the end. The best is over.
Everybody thinks this about their own generation. You're not special Cinemaphile
Has there ever been a more Reddit show than Game of Thrones?
It was literally synonymous with it.
Idk why people hold it in high esteem. A big step down from other HBO series writing wise.
Cope Mario
>2000s - 2010s
>golden age of TV
It was. Before that is was mostly sitcoms and hit and miss dramas that had entire bad seasons (X-Files).
golden age of tv ended with Mad Men
This pretty much. Although it's not just TV, everything is shit now.
Oppenheimer being the "best" film of the year really speaks volumes about where art is
Golden age of Television ended decades ago. At best, we were in a second golden age. Covid killed that though.
those three shows are literally from different eras
Sopranos, but wasn't there plenty of overlap with the other 2?
Golden Age was the 70s and 80s
90s-10s was more like the Silver Age
waiting for the Bronze
>waiting for the Bronze
that's happening right now
it's the streaming age
more like the streaming pile of shit age amirite?
Yup, dominated by IP/limited series.
Yes and it has been since about 2015
>millennials and their fricking lasagna soap opera
TON' IS SAD. WHY YOU SAD, TON'? WHYDONNA YOU GO SEE A DOCTOR, TON'? IS YOU SAD ABOUT YA MUDDA, TON'? ARE YA AGGRESSIVE CUZ YA MUDDA DIDDEN RESPECK YA, TON'? HAVE-A SOME GABAGOOL, TON'...
lmfao.
sit down lil bro and scroll your tiktok feed
It was over before they ended GoT
But that definitely marks the end of that era
The dying days of the golden age of television were pretty much documented in real time by 30 Rock. House of Thrones was never included, by the way.
The next era of television will be one that mirrors 1970s American cinema.
TV peaked in the 60s.
None of those are good
>doesnt post this own list
coward
I don’t think multi season dramas are good. It’s basically the same as a studio planned franchise of movies. They can have good elements like I wouldn’t ever say James Gandolfini is a bad actor but I don’t think as a whole long running series are good beyond placating people.
Are any of these meme shows worth watching? Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad and the Italian guy one?
Hell is it worth "getting into television"?
I've only seen Twin Peaks but I just treated it as a long Lynch film.
yeah. GoT is good but falls off at the end. Breaking Bad and Sopranos are well made shows about criminals. People talk about them for a reason.
Guess I'll set aside some time and check them out.
and that reason is people being plebs
Nah TV sucks and always has. Only shows worth watching are True Detective Season 1 and all 3 seasons of Twin Peaks.
Yes. Women took over.
breaking bad is white nonsense. game of thrones imploded so hard no one wants to remember it.
>breaking bad is white nonsense
n
There is literally not a single good show in that thumbnail.
Golden age was somewhere around 2010-2015.
Yes, the Golden Age was just Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead. Regardless of what you think of them, at that time TV shows were ascending into a new format and surpassing film, regardless of what you think of any of those 3 shows at that time you could expect big budget kinos to come out constantly.
It's a shame that the creative era was kind of watered down and then killed by Netflix flooding the market with low budget shit. COVID was the nail in the coffin, the quality and hype around TV shows hasn't been replicated. Maybe Squid Games is the last show to have major cultural impact, House of the Dragon is just GoT extended content.
I don't know why the Sopranos is in the OP, that show was a diamond in the rough, buried in a sea of sitcoms and cop dramas
>The Walking Slop
It was over long ago. The 2000's were the golden age. Around the end of that decade, the writers strikes started, and TV never recovered.
Also putting breaking bad next to the sopranos confirms whoever made that video has rocks in their head.
Also game of thrones is notorious for shitting the bed harder than any piece of media in the history of mankind. lol
Matrix sequels exist.
It ended the second the pandemic started and I have no idea why, it should have done the opposite
first golden age - from 1999 to 2007 - sopranos and the shield ends
second golden age - from 2007 to 2015 - breaking bad and mad men ends
people can say Succession or Better Call Saul was good...but let it's be honest...this shit was mid at best. Nobody is going to remember Succession. People are still gonna watch The Sopranos.
>sopranos
>shield
>breaking bad
>mad men
all boring af. no, no bait.
breaking bad is boring but bcs isn't?
okay.
The Shield is a lot of things but boring isn't one of them.
crimeslop
Think whatever you want of the quality but a show with that type of break-neck pacing can't possibly be boring. The episodes are way too busy, it's the anti-thesis of most 'prestige tv'.
dont care about the premise NOR the cast though
TikTok and the ADHD generation have made the cinema industry unsustainable. Sad!
Its true, I tried watching episode 1 of the sopranos but got distracted 8 minutes in.
all the diversity hires and nepo babys in 2020 leave very few roles left for merit based hiring.
i imagine in past cohorts, roles were filled somewhat 40% by merit, 60% by nepotism with the 40% merit slowly growing larger over time as talented merit hires grew in influence within the industry and the talentless nepo hires fell off, leaving mostly only the nepo hires that are somewhat competent remaining.
but now i imagine it's more like 10% merit hires, 40% diversity hires and 50% nepotism hires, which would prevent the merit hires from growing enough to actually create any good tv, and since the nepo babys are no longer having to compete with the merit hires as much, they are instead only having to compete with the equally talentless diversity hires, meaning the talentless nepo hires simply aren't getting pushed out of the industry as much as they were previously due to their de-facto less competition.
For me it's 2013-2018
The Americans
Masters of Sex
True Detective
Fargo
Halt and Catch Fire
The Leftovers
The Knick
Better Call Saul
Mr. Robot
Narcos
The Night of
Westworld
The Young Pope
Taboo
Mindhunter
The Terror
What's with the multiple people here making these random ranges for a very clearly objective date range of "golden age" television?
There is no "golden age" of television. There are the best television shows of each decade, like for the 2010s. Breaking Bad and Sopranos would probably be the best shows for the 2000s.
Game of Thrones was a much bigger cultural phenomenon than both of those shows, however pretty much everyone acknowledges that Breaking Bad was the best show of the past 2 decades.
Zoomie list. Very shit.
They're more interested in hiring black lesbians to write shows instead of talented people.
I find interesting how The Walking Dead (even season 1) gets constantly ignored by "tv enthusiasts" when making these lists, it's like when you have a bad breakup with your gf and want nothing to do with her even though it was the love of your life at some point.
Does having the majority of seasons being bad/average of a show deny the quality and cultural impact of the first season(s)? Why isn't this the case with Dexter or Game of Thrones too? (both famous cases of shows going to shit) what does make the decline of The Walking Dead so special even though it objectively contributed to reshape television?
Personally, no amount of gaslighting will ever convince me that TWD was never good.
It is hard to judge without context of the rest of the show. It is an interesting and compelling show until you understand how they just kept repeating it.
I think it's an issue with tv shows where the whole matters more than the sum. The walking dead had 1 good season of like 8. After 1 it literally became a so(y)ap opera that guys could also enjoy. This show was basically carried by it's first season and the popularity of epicly killing zombies ftw. When those ran dry, it lost most cultural relevance, despite still airing for years.
Overrated medium
I've never watched any of these shows
it's fine for the first season alone as for breaking bad pretty solid.
it was over after 2012.
>It's over, isn't it?
Yes.
Live-action realistic fiction is shit. Sci-fi, fantasy, horror, cartoons, and nonfiction are infinitely more interesting than the ten millionth sitcom or crime drama.
We've had almost 20 years straight of
>the main protagonist is.....actually le piece of shit! isn't that alternative as heck!?
In most popular/"""AAA""" shows. I think people are sick of it and are ready for something else.
Yeah, the decline in writing talent is pretty apparent even on the better networks like HBO, the stuff that's getting raved about would be cancelled after one season back in 2012.
Is it a writing talent decline or as mentioned 100 times during the strike, the structure of writing rooms and all around television development being garbage?
Writers have been pretty explicit in the fact they couldn't work on scripts as long as they could because of the whole "mini rooms" thing, and creators being inexperienced and not doing age old things like mapping out a series beforehand (story bibles)
West World was the last great kino
I contend this is the worst time to be a TV viewer, in terms of watching top quality stuff, if only because of how many different companies you have to pay to get all of the better stuff. In the past you needed, what, cable + HBO? Now it's a nightmare, and obviously WAAAY worse value for money.
Couldn't say. Never watched Breaking Bad nor The Sopranos and have zero desire to do so now. People say they're "kino" so I'll just have to take your word for it. Not worth my time.
The golden age was over in May 23 2010 when LOST ended. Stupid zoomcucks.
Ended in the early-mid 2010s.
Anything less or more is a cope.
I blame china. They're making tv shows that would appeal to the chinese audience instead of us Americans.
TNG & SG1 & Farscape & LOST is all you ever needed.
it never began
Golden age was when 24 was on the telly.
Prove me wrong you probably can.
dropped all 3
i guess the meth one was the best because i got the furthest
Succession is the only show in the same league as the Sopranos. HBO keeps pulling hits out of their ass
if that was the "golden age" then we've been in the dark age fanning our own balls the whole time
It ended in 2018 with The Americans
it's over
>00s-10s is the "golden age" because I grew up during it
L M A OOOOOOO
I think it's been over since mad men ended
It's definetely over now anyway, try and name a good current long form drama.
>HBO used to have deadwood, carnivale, six feet under, the sopranos, the wire and rome with new seasons coming out within the same year
>after their last great show succession now they have literally nothing
What went so wrong so fricking fast BROS?
Those shows came out under Michael Lombardo's era as head of programming. Casey Bloys took over in 2016 and HBO hasn't been the same imo. It's riding off its older reputation but thats already ran out.
(same anon here just wanted to add on), the best Drama shows under the Bloys era at HBO:
The Deuce
Succession
That's it. Lombardo had like 2 stumbles that led to him being fired but Casey hasn't fared any better.
What happened to all those tv directors from the golden age anyways? Tim Van Patten, Allan Taylor and all those guys? They directed some of the best episodes in the history of television, surely HBO can call them to make something good again right?
I believe Patten directed an episode or two of Perry Mason, the most recent show I saw Allan Taylor credits for was Interview with the Vampire.
Not sure how HBO can turn it around really. Bloys crowning achievement during his era thus far is Succession (I looked it up, Lombardo is the one who green lit The Deuce). HBO recently turned down the new David Chase series which makes no sense, FX picked it up. HBO just isn't picking up good projects lately.
TV reverting back to the old days when it was mostly junk every year with gems here and there, but the gems aren't as great as golden age stuff.
Ex: Succession.
The golden age of everything is over. When are moronic Americans going to realize they are in a cultural decline?
The whole industry been dying since 2010 and dead since covid.
What a tim pool ass milquetoast consevacuck opinion
thread took a turn
https://www.avclub.com/the-golden-age-of-tv-is-dead-long-live-the-golden-age-1798240704
Mandatory reading for everyone using the phrase "Golden age of TV"
Emily is great
has been over for quite some time.
imagine thinking game of slop comes even close to sopranos or breaking bad
>everyone sucking off sopranos this hard
I'm watching it for the first time now and its great, revolutionary even, but I am not getting the "nothing on its level, makes everything else look worse" feeling at all. Great acting, characters, slow burn plot, but it also drags sometimes and can feel like its going in circles. I am starting season 4 and sometimes it feels like all that happened in an episode is a few characters like each other slightly less than they did at the beginning.
It's a great show but Mad Men should get the reverence it does, they share similarities but Mm was better
What about Hannibal?
Golden age of TV was from 70's to mid 90's.
Silver age was from mid 90's to mid 00's.
Since then it has been breasts and ass driven garbage age.
As a columbro I second this
at what season should I stop?
Can't say for sure, I just got into it a year ago and watch a couple episodes with friends a month so I'm only on season 4. I think its supposed to stay pretty consistent until you get into the 90s.
Watch till the end. Quality gets more uneven during 90's but the comeback era has good episodes too.
>Golden age of TV was from 70's to mid 90's.
how is absolutely formulaic television the golden age
One of those is not like the other. Who made this shit op?