There's also the issue of "access journalism" which is the most common way for Hollywood studios (and video game developers) to manipulate reviews in their favor.
Major films are shown early to select reviewers they know will given them positive reviews or will be afraid to give them negative reviews because they or their employer don't want to be cut off from future access.
There's a whole lot of shit movies, shows, and games that have come out over the years that are obvious cash grabs with no respect shown to the original franchise or lore.
Why would you automatically assume that someone who opposed a quick, shitty, cash grab based off a brand name without knowing anything about the brand is an antisemite?
Look at the Witcher show, TLOU2, remaking the Evil Dead movie for the fifth time, SW sequels, Little Mermaid, Snow White, any number of dozens of properties.
Fans vs disrespectful cash grabbers.
That is the war.
I understood what that guy meant.
You seem a bit paranoid and schizo.
Did you take your pimozide today?
9 months ago
Anonymous
this post is laden with incel dogwhistles
I can't I just can't right now
frick off
I don't know how anyone can deny it. With games in particular, YouTubers receiving free copies in exchange for good publicity isn't even much of a secret.
>In one striking example described in the piece, a publicity firm tried to boost the score of an independent film without a distributor (2018’s Ophelia, starring Daisy Ridley) by recruiting “obscure, often self-published critics who are nevertheless part of the pool tracked by Rotten Tomatoes.” Several anonymous critics told journalist Lane Brown the company in question “pays them $50 or more for each review.”
Wouldn't surprise me if they hire shills for other sites, even for Cinemaphile.
I suspect that it is more that a group of low level bottomof the barrel reviewers that no one paid attention to, a few hundred, got together and started an extortion racket.
"We have 200 reviewers ready to bomb your movie unless you pay us 10K, at which point we will say nice things about it. Their names don't matter, you don't need to know who they are. Now. Pay up."
Eventually it went from extortion to a paid service.
Disney pays them to review bomb Nolan films. Cameron pays them to review bomb Disney. Duplicate groups pop up, some do it out of third world phone farms, some do it as part of organized campaigns.
Blow the lid off, I say. RT touted their elite reviewers as trustworthy, and now we see that they are nothing but paid shitposters mouthing whatever agenda they are told to.
Frick if I know.
The democrats are siccing the ADL on anyone who claims election fraud, smearing the people who say it as a transphobic, antisemitic, racist, homophobe, and ending their careers.
The only person who still says it is Trump, and it just makes him more powerful.
I'm sick of the bullshit, and really just want the shooting war to start.
This shit is getting old.
it's an obscure Bollywood firm, has nothing to do with American films
Where the hell do you think the bot farms of the paid copy and paste reviewers live?
India.
Yah.
We've known due to fricky numbers for years.
But, now they got caught with proof of fricking with the numbers.
And, for the mouse shills sure to show up:
If you caught ONE group doing it, that means there are MORE because there is a fricking hole in the system.
This is basic gaming.
If you find a loophole or exploit in a video game, a system, you exploit it and share the exploit with your friends until it is patched or punishment is handed out for anyone using the hole.
This is basic knowledge. It's also human nature.
Humans will do whatever they think they can get away with until they are forcibly stopped, or punished.
That's it.
remember the last of us 2 fiasco? regular games get maybe a few thousand reviews/ratings but it had such a low score initially, they needed to take the tally up over a hundred thousand to make the score presentable
any sensible person knows that doesn't happen naturally
>it sucks >also, 90k impartial reviewers will always average out at 86% without any fluctuation
I'm sure the reviewers agree with you and if we were to manually add up every score, it would be lower than the minimum they have it set as.
Its 50k actually, and yeah, loads of movies don't change after the first 1000 reviewers. Top gun maverick has been at 99% from 50 to 50k.
No it was because they froze reviews because they were getting """review bombed""". ie) they didn't like the bad reviews and had the power to just stop the count. Good review site they have there.
All the reviews are public, you can literally just check them.
>Past 6,000 reviews the score is unlikely going to change much,
It froze at 1000 and just never moved. Not a single point down or even up. 10000 reviews apparently equally loved and hated it to the point where not a single shift happened.
And if you're dumb enough to believe it, you probably the exact level of stupid enough to like any of the Disney trilogy
You don't understand statistics moron, if you flip a coin a thousand times and then you flip a coin a billion times, its still 50%. >Disney froze the score!!!
Except for the unverified audience score, they must have forgot about that lmao.
9 months ago
Anonymous
if we fip you, you land feet first every time because the other end is weightless
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're literally moronic and don't understand basic statistics.
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's pretty good, I like that one.
The guy you are replying to is a mouse shill.
He shat up the last thread with his idiocy, and refused to watch this video.
If he had, he would not have said something as fricking stupid as he just did.
Therefore, he's paid to lie.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Your point is self defeating because it assumes that Disney has the power to do this, but not do it for the unverified score for whatever,
9 months ago
Anonymous
Watch the video, mouse shill.
Until then, shut the frick up.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Its a moronic video made by an 85iq moron, posted by an 85iq moron who doesn't realise its completely irrelevant to his point because its not about "the audience score being frozen" its about supposed botting by Disney.
The person in the video at no point compares it to other film's audience scores on RT because if they did, they would find that they are all like that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You still didn't watch it.
Ask me how I know.
9 months ago
Anonymous
How do you know then?
9 months ago
Anonymous
The question was already answered, mouse shill.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Its a moronic video made by an 85iq moron, posted by an 85iq moron who doesn't realise its completely irrelevant to his point >his
kek
9 months ago
Anonymous
>his
way to out yourself you dumb homosexual
Holy shit I didn't realise you're all a bunch of ESL homosexuals, that would explain a lot, "his" refers to this moron
Watch the video, mouse shill.
Until then, shut the frick up.
HE is the person that posted that video that doesn't prove his point.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>"Yeah, so what if the count stopped and all these reviews are literal copy pastes of each other. It proves nothing!"
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's what all the audience reviews are like its just "this movie is really good" "I enjoyed this movie" "This movie was fun"
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, general audiences always referred to star wars as "The Skywalker Saga" AKA, Disney's cope.
>"T-This is the end of the epic Skywalker Saga. See, Star Wars isn't ruined!" : )
9 months ago
Anonymous
its always been called a "saga" I remember seeing the "star wars saga" box sets when I was younger.
9 months ago
Anonymous
To say nothing of the names that are weirdly the same exact numbers whether your name is Mark or John.
How are you going to grab 2500 random reviews, and have 28 marks, 28 johns, and 28 stevens, and on and on?
Because, it was botted to hell and back with fake reviews.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So are your points that its frozen or that its botted? I'm getting lost now, I know this isn't your main language but stay with me here, because you cant say that its frozen and that its botted,
9 months ago
Anonymous
>because you cant say that its frozen and that its botted
why not?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Because what would be the point of botting it if you just wanted to freeze it?
9 months ago
Anonymous
the botting provides cover for the score you nonce
the game is up if people go into reviews and there isn't page after page of 10 star single sentence ai reviews
9 months ago
Anonymous
Well why bother freezing it if you're willing to bot it? 86% is a pretty mediocre score by verified score standards, why use your bots to get it to a more respectable 90%+?
Also, it provides cover incase people check the reviews, but they apparently don't care about the unverified score which was left unfrozen?
9 months ago
Anonymous
because in this
Probably explains why the Rise of Skywalker audience score has been frozen at 86% ever since the launch.
it was 89%, then 88%, then 86% on a downward trajectory and it just happened to be at 86% when they stopped it
that's already a laughable score and you can only suspend disbelief with talking points like yours so far
9 months ago
Anonymous
So why not pump those numbers back up? Not unheard of for a film to increase its audience score. I mean if they've got the bots on hand, right?
So many ridiculous contradictions you have to accept to believe this, that they would just forget to do this to the unverified score, I mean come on.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>So why not pump those numbers back up? >that's already a laughable score and you can only suspend disbelief with talking points like yours so far
also, it's not an instantaneous thing organising a botfarm during the pivotal moment of a release, if there is a sudden backlash
easier to stem the bleeding by freezing the score and making up the numbers with bots later on
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why would they not just have a botfarm on standby, or just do it anyway regardless of reception, I don't see why you don't just do this all the time.
9 months ago
Anonymous
of course you don't because your arguement is always all or nothing strawmen
the corporation either has absolute control over every single aspect and manipulate every single thing or they must do nothing
9 months ago
Anonymous
They apparently have the ability to change the websites code to freeze the score, so yeah at this point I think they can do pretty much anything they want.
To buy this you have to accept such a ridiculous worldview to explain something that is so easily explainable with a basic understanding of statistics. an 86% audience score is perfectly inline with its mediocre postrak data and B+ Cinemascore.
9 months ago
Anonymous
to buy your moronation, you have to believe that a company being sued by its investors for fraud wouldn't and doesn't do the same thing to its customers
9 months ago
Anonymous
They literally change policy after the Captain Marvel fiasco. You obviously weren't here at the time when They made it harder for even normal people to post reviews of the movie unless they bought tickets through Fandango that you had to be a absolute Disney sycophant to jump through those hoops. Two guesses who the CEO of Fandango was a former executive of... and guess who's owned Fandango also owns...
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah because Captain Marvel was flagrantly review bombed forcing them to change it, you would have to be a mind broken moron to not think Captain Marvel wasn't review bombed, inb4 shill, I haven't seen Captain Marvel.
9 months ago
Anonymous
if the hate for captain marvel was just a few trolls review bombing, why haven't they released the sequel? it is worth the top rating they changed the entire system for, right?
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's irrelevant, its just a fact that Captain Marvel was review bombed.
I don't give two tugs of a dead dog's dick if it the reviews of Captain Marvel were legit or not. Operating on the assumption the reviews were a product of trolls, it was more than enough reason for Disney to go overkill with TROS.
None of that changes the fact that an 86% audience matches perfectly to its B+ cinemascore.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>cinemascore
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah because Captain Marvel was flagrantly review bombed forcing them to change it, you would have to be a mind broken moron to not think Captain Marvel wasn't review bombed, inb4 shill, I haven't seen Captain Marvel.
The frick is Disney paying these people post-Endgame? Disney Dollars?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>its just a fact that Captain Marvel was review bombed.
and by review bombed, we understand that the rating was being reduced to what it actually deserved, given that nobody has a taste for a sequel and it being a flop would retroactively expose the fraud that was the first movie and its marketing campaign
9 months ago
Anonymous
>review bombed, we understand that the rating was being reduced to what it actually
also helped that Captain Marvel was marketed as recommended viewing sandwiched between Avenger movies.
9 months ago
Anonymous
how quickly the landscape has changed for capeshit
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't give two tugs of a dead dog's dick if it the reviews of Captain Marvel were legit or not. Operating on the assumption the reviews were a product of trolls, it was more than enough reason for Disney to go overkill with TROS.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Captain Marvel was not review bombed.
Captain Marvel EARNED it's bad reviews.
Disney was using bot farms to pump up Captain Marvel and shit on Alita Battle Angel.
After Alita was released, Disney realized how likeable the character was and went all out to shit on it.
I paid attention to the local theater and peeked in on several Captain Marvel showings.
The theater was never more than a third full for CM, and it had three screens.
Alita had two, and was always half full or better, even during Captain Marvel, a month after Alita was released.
Disney faked the shit out of the real numbers of people going to see CM. within two weeks, CM had less people in the seats than Alita still did after five weeks in theater.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh no no no it's totally legit and not manipulated at all! The non-Disney employee said so!
9 months ago
Anonymous
Botting costs too. Why add more to the bill when you're in the business of making as much money you can back from investing and then some ASAP?
It's just cheaper & easier to freeze the score and puff up your movie than it is to be in a constant battle with trolls "review bombing"
9 months ago
Anonymous
Botting is done by children in their basement, its not that expensive, especially when you have the ability to get the consent of the company you're botting and are a billion dollar company.
to buy your moronation, you have to believe that a company being sued by its investors for fraud wouldn't and doesn't do the same thing to its customers
My moronation is that there is no reason to suggest anything anomalous because all the postrak data and cinemascore data lines up? an 86% score is pretty much exactly what you would expect given a B+ cinemascore.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Botting is done by children in their basement, its not that expensive
I guess a shill would know....
9 months ago
Anonymous
>So why not pump those numbers back up?
If you're in the business of making sure pic related would make money. Would you honestly try puff up the movie to a passable percentage knowing it was trash & give away your cheat in the process?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Look, we get it.
You have your script, and you aren't allowed to go off of it.
You won't watch the video, and even if you did I highly doubt that you are intelligent enough to understand what is happening in the video.
Because, if you were smart enough to understand, it would piss you off.
So, short version:
You are a low IQ moron employed to shill and shit up thre4ads by the mouse.
You got fricking caught, called a friend to help, he saw how badly you fricked up, and told you that you were on your own because he wasn't getting involved and risking his paycheck trying to help you out in your stupidity.
End of story.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I wish I got paid for this, its the least I deserve for this tard wrangling.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If you really aren't getting paid for this, holy frick you can't be this obvious.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Don't backpedal and try to claim you were referring to the poster and not the video.
Because you weren't.
And the only person that you have supporting you is your moronic friend
Address my point or shut up you tards, where are you from india? Mexico?
that you had to call in because you fricked up.
9 months ago
Anonymous
riding that mouse dick like a pogo stick!
9 months ago
Anonymous
>his
way to out yourself you dumb homosexual
9 months ago
Anonymous
You couldn't have fricked that statement up any more if you had tried.
You clearly didn't even watch for five seconds, let alone the whole video to see the points being made.
moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Address my point or shut up you tards, where are you from india? Mexico?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>disney shill smearing his primary demographic
9 months ago
Anonymous
why bother for something the average person won't go out of their way to see?
what you don't get as a brainlet is that billion dollar corporations pick and choose their battles
9 months ago
Anonymous
It would presumably just be 1 click to just freeze the score, they pick and choose their battles, because freezing the unverified score would be too hard lmao, do you even hear how stupid this is?
9 months ago
Anonymous
you would have a harder time with your gaslighting if both scores were frozen, would you not?
No it was because they froze reviews because they were getting """review bombed""". ie) they didn't like the bad reviews and had the power to just stop the count. Good review site they have there.
>Past 6,000 reviews the score is unlikely going to change much,
It froze at 1000 and just never moved. Not a single point down or even up. 10000 reviews apparently equally loved and hated it to the point where not a single shift happened.
And if you're dumb enough to believe it, you probably the exact level of stupid enough to like any of the Disney trilogy
You have to be pretty damn stupid to believe that any "audience" rating site isn't manipulated. Even if they weren't, the type of people who would actually go through the effort to sign up for these sites and contribute are not going to be normal and well adjusted or knowledgeable about movies, they're going to be kids and no life manchildren and politically motivated weirdos.
what the frick is this argument? the people that actually care and spend a lot of time watching and discussing movies are the kind of people you want critiquing movies, and is the basis for a "movie critic"
apathetic normies that consoom any old slop are exactly the kind of reviewers production studio x would love to have as their representative
>the people that actually care and spend a lot of time watching and discussing movies are the kind of people you want critiquing movies
In theory, sure. But you're describing an idyllic scenario. The people who spend the most time watching and discussing movies are shills who get paid to do so
>movie has diverse characters, directed by woman or black
Instant fresh
I’d say it’s more than the century old critic payoff, their experts want to make a statement with every review and are reluctant to say a diverse movie sucks. Look at the way the top 100 rated films have changed in the past five years.
It's always russian bots with leftists.
They can't accept the fact that woke garbage is exactly that, woke garbage that 3% of the population likes, and 15% of the population is too stupid to know any better that they are watching trash.
So, it's russian bots on FB, russian bots on twitter, russian bots on Cinemaphile, russian bots in IMDB, russian bots in the refrigerator.
Leftists are fricking moronic.
There's also the issue of "access journalism" which is the most common way for Hollywood studios (and video game developers) to manipulate reviews in their favor.
Major films are shown early to select reviewers they know will given them positive reviews or will be afraid to give them negative reviews because they or their employer don't want to be cut off from future access.
>and video game developers
Sounds like they could use some ethics...
I can't believe it's almost been a decade since the war started.
What war?
>started in 2014
>video game reviews
>ethics
IYKYK
The only one that matters.
Fans vs money grabber slop.
>money grabber
die antisemetite
There's a whole lot of shit movies, shows, and games that have come out over the years that are obvious cash grabs with no respect shown to the original franchise or lore.
Why would you automatically assume that someone who opposed a quick, shitty, cash grab based off a brand name without knowing anything about the brand is an antisemite?
Look at the Witcher show, TLOU2, remaking the Evil Dead movie for the fifth time, SW sequels, Little Mermaid, Snow White, any number of dozens of properties.
Fans vs disrespectful cash grabbers.
That is the war.
I understood what that guy meant.
You seem a bit paranoid and schizo.
Did you take your pimozide today?
this post is laden with incel dogwhistles
I can't I just can't right now
frick off
I literally said this in the last thread and people thought I was crazy.
reddit tends to link our threads here
I don't know how anyone can deny it. With games in particular, YouTubers receiving free copies in exchange for good publicity isn't even much of a secret.
There's paid shills spamming crap here with various copy-paste talking points or fake discussions between them.
it's an obscure Bollywood firm, has nothing to do with American films
Are you telling me that Avatar 2 isn't the best movie since Citizen Kane?
>In one striking example described in the piece, a publicity firm tried to boost the score of an independent film without a distributor (2018’s Ophelia, starring Daisy Ridley) by recruiting “obscure, often self-published critics who are nevertheless part of the pool tracked by Rotten Tomatoes.” Several anonymous critics told journalist Lane Brown the company in question “pays them $50 or more for each review.”
Wouldn't surprise me if they hire shills for other sites, even for Cinemaphile.
>$50 to buy a review
is that it?
I suspect that it is more that a group of low level bottomof the barrel reviewers that no one paid attention to, a few hundred, got together and started an extortion racket.
"We have 200 reviewers ready to bomb your movie unless you pay us 10K, at which point we will say nice things about it. Their names don't matter, you don't need to know who they are. Now. Pay up."
Eventually it went from extortion to a paid service.
Disney pays them to review bomb Nolan films. Cameron pays them to review bomb Disney. Duplicate groups pop up, some do it out of third world phone farms, some do it as part of organized campaigns.
Blow the lid off, I say. RT touted their elite reviewers as trustworthy, and now we see that they are nothing but paid shitposters mouthing whatever agenda they are told to.
It takes less than an hour to write a review with ai.
Are those chestnuts? Is he foraging for food?
…I don’t think the Maniac’s mania is confined to the ring.
Frick if I know.
The democrats are siccing the ADL on anyone who claims election fraud, smearing the people who say it as a transphobic, antisemitic, racist, homophobe, and ending their careers.
The only person who still says it is Trump, and it just makes him more powerful.
I'm sick of the bullshit, and really just want the shooting war to start.
This shit is getting old.
Where the hell do you think the bot farms of the paid copy and paste reviewers live?
India.
RT is owned by Fandango. The CEO of Fandango is a former Disney executive. This isn't exactly news.
we have knuckleheads in this board that still think it's a conspiracy.
Yah.
We've known due to fricky numbers for years.
But, now they got caught with proof of fricking with the numbers.
And, for the mouse shills sure to show up:
If you caught ONE group doing it, that means there are MORE because there is a fricking hole in the system.
This is basic gaming.
If you find a loophole or exploit in a video game, a system, you exploit it and share the exploit with your friends until it is patched or punishment is handed out for anyone using the hole.
This is basic knowledge. It's also human nature.
Humans will do whatever they think they can get away with until they are forcibly stopped, or punished.
That's it.
Probably explains why the Rise of Skywalker audience score has been frozen at 86% ever since the launch.
Apparently Disney pulled a trick similar to what EA did when people hated Mass Effect 3
remember the last of us 2 fiasco? regular games get maybe a few thousand reviews/ratings but it had such a low score initially, they needed to take the tally up over a hundred thousand to make the score presentable
any sensible person knows that doesn't happen naturally
Past 6,000 reviews the score is unlikely going to change much, there are plently of films that dont change scores past 1,000 reviews.
Shut up, mouse shill.
You are full of shit, and we can easily spot you with your scripted lies.
I think TROS fricking sucks btw.
>it sucks
>also, 90k impartial reviewers will always average out at 86% without any fluctuation
I'm sure the reviewers agree with you and if we were to manually add up every score, it would be lower than the minimum they have it set as.
Its 50k actually, and yeah, loads of movies don't change after the first 1000 reviewers. Top gun maverick has been at 99% from 50 to 50k.
All the reviews are public, you can literally just check them.
You don't understand statistics moron, if you flip a coin a thousand times and then you flip a coin a billion times, its still 50%.
>Disney froze the score!!!
Except for the unverified audience score, they must have forgot about that lmao.
if we fip you, you land feet first every time because the other end is weightless
You're literally moronic and don't understand basic statistics.
That's pretty good, I like that one.
The guy you are replying to is a mouse shill.
He shat up the last thread with his idiocy, and refused to watch this video.
If he had, he would not have said something as fricking stupid as he just did.
Therefore, he's paid to lie.
Your point is self defeating because it assumes that Disney has the power to do this, but not do it for the unverified score for whatever,
Watch the video, mouse shill.
Until then, shut the frick up.
Its a moronic video made by an 85iq moron, posted by an 85iq moron who doesn't realise its completely irrelevant to his point because its not about "the audience score being frozen" its about supposed botting by Disney.
The person in the video at no point compares it to other film's audience scores on RT because if they did, they would find that they are all like that.
You still didn't watch it.
Ask me how I know.
How do you know then?
The question was already answered, mouse shill.
>Its a moronic video made by an 85iq moron, posted by an 85iq moron who doesn't realise its completely irrelevant to his point
>his
kek
Holy shit I didn't realise you're all a bunch of ESL homosexuals, that would explain a lot, "his" refers to this moron
HE is the person that posted that video that doesn't prove his point.
>"Yeah, so what if the count stopped and all these reviews are literal copy pastes of each other. It proves nothing!"
That's what all the audience reviews are like its just "this movie is really good" "I enjoyed this movie" "This movie was fun"
Yeah, general audiences always referred to star wars as "The Skywalker Saga" AKA, Disney's cope.
>"T-This is the end of the epic Skywalker Saga. See, Star Wars isn't ruined!" : )
its always been called a "saga" I remember seeing the "star wars saga" box sets when I was younger.
To say nothing of the names that are weirdly the same exact numbers whether your name is Mark or John.
How are you going to grab 2500 random reviews, and have 28 marks, 28 johns, and 28 stevens, and on and on?
Because, it was botted to hell and back with fake reviews.
So are your points that its frozen or that its botted? I'm getting lost now, I know this isn't your main language but stay with me here, because you cant say that its frozen and that its botted,
>because you cant say that its frozen and that its botted
why not?
Because what would be the point of botting it if you just wanted to freeze it?
the botting provides cover for the score you nonce
the game is up if people go into reviews and there isn't page after page of 10 star single sentence ai reviews
Well why bother freezing it if you're willing to bot it? 86% is a pretty mediocre score by verified score standards, why use your bots to get it to a more respectable 90%+?
Also, it provides cover incase people check the reviews, but they apparently don't care about the unverified score which was left unfrozen?
because in this
it was 89%, then 88%, then 86% on a downward trajectory and it just happened to be at 86% when they stopped it
that's already a laughable score and you can only suspend disbelief with talking points like yours so far
So why not pump those numbers back up? Not unheard of for a film to increase its audience score. I mean if they've got the bots on hand, right?
So many ridiculous contradictions you have to accept to believe this, that they would just forget to do this to the unverified score, I mean come on.
>So why not pump those numbers back up?
>that's already a laughable score and you can only suspend disbelief with talking points like yours so far
also, it's not an instantaneous thing organising a botfarm during the pivotal moment of a release, if there is a sudden backlash
easier to stem the bleeding by freezing the score and making up the numbers with bots later on
Why would they not just have a botfarm on standby, or just do it anyway regardless of reception, I don't see why you don't just do this all the time.
of course you don't because your arguement is always all or nothing strawmen
the corporation either has absolute control over every single aspect and manipulate every single thing or they must do nothing
They apparently have the ability to change the websites code to freeze the score, so yeah at this point I think they can do pretty much anything they want.
To buy this you have to accept such a ridiculous worldview to explain something that is so easily explainable with a basic understanding of statistics. an 86% audience score is perfectly inline with its mediocre postrak data and B+ Cinemascore.
to buy your moronation, you have to believe that a company being sued by its investors for fraud wouldn't and doesn't do the same thing to its customers
They literally change policy after the Captain Marvel fiasco. You obviously weren't here at the time when They made it harder for even normal people to post reviews of the movie unless they bought tickets through Fandango that you had to be a absolute Disney sycophant to jump through those hoops. Two guesses who the CEO of Fandango was a former executive of... and guess who's owned Fandango also owns...
Yeah because Captain Marvel was flagrantly review bombed forcing them to change it, you would have to be a mind broken moron to not think Captain Marvel wasn't review bombed, inb4 shill, I haven't seen Captain Marvel.
if the hate for captain marvel was just a few trolls review bombing, why haven't they released the sequel? it is worth the top rating they changed the entire system for, right?
That's irrelevant, its just a fact that Captain Marvel was review bombed.
None of that changes the fact that an 86% audience matches perfectly to its B+ cinemascore.
>cinemascore
The frick is Disney paying these people post-Endgame? Disney Dollars?
>its just a fact that Captain Marvel was review bombed.
and by review bombed, we understand that the rating was being reduced to what it actually deserved, given that nobody has a taste for a sequel and it being a flop would retroactively expose the fraud that was the first movie and its marketing campaign
>review bombed, we understand that the rating was being reduced to what it actually
also helped that Captain Marvel was marketed as recommended viewing sandwiched between Avenger movies.
how quickly the landscape has changed for capeshit
I don't give two tugs of a dead dog's dick if it the reviews of Captain Marvel were legit or not. Operating on the assumption the reviews were a product of trolls, it was more than enough reason for Disney to go overkill with TROS.
Captain Marvel was not review bombed.
Captain Marvel EARNED it's bad reviews.
Disney was using bot farms to pump up Captain Marvel and shit on Alita Battle Angel.
After Alita was released, Disney realized how likeable the character was and went all out to shit on it.
I paid attention to the local theater and peeked in on several Captain Marvel showings.
The theater was never more than a third full for CM, and it had three screens.
Alita had two, and was always half full or better, even during Captain Marvel, a month after Alita was released.
Disney faked the shit out of the real numbers of people going to see CM. within two weeks, CM had less people in the seats than Alita still did after five weeks in theater.
Oh no no no it's totally legit and not manipulated at all! The non-Disney employee said so!
Botting costs too. Why add more to the bill when you're in the business of making as much money you can back from investing and then some ASAP?
It's just cheaper & easier to freeze the score and puff up your movie than it is to be in a constant battle with trolls "review bombing"
Botting is done by children in their basement, its not that expensive, especially when you have the ability to get the consent of the company you're botting and are a billion dollar company.
My moronation is that there is no reason to suggest anything anomalous because all the postrak data and cinemascore data lines up? an 86% score is pretty much exactly what you would expect given a B+ cinemascore.
>Botting is done by children in their basement, its not that expensive
I guess a shill would know....
>So why not pump those numbers back up?
If you're in the business of making sure pic related would make money. Would you honestly try puff up the movie to a passable percentage knowing it was trash & give away your cheat in the process?
Look, we get it.
You have your script, and you aren't allowed to go off of it.
You won't watch the video, and even if you did I highly doubt that you are intelligent enough to understand what is happening in the video.
Because, if you were smart enough to understand, it would piss you off.
So, short version:
You are a low IQ moron employed to shill and shit up thre4ads by the mouse.
You got fricking caught, called a friend to help, he saw how badly you fricked up, and told you that you were on your own because he wasn't getting involved and risking his paycheck trying to help you out in your stupidity.
End of story.
I wish I got paid for this, its the least I deserve for this tard wrangling.
If you really aren't getting paid for this, holy frick you can't be this obvious.
Don't backpedal and try to claim you were referring to the poster and not the video.
Because you weren't.
And the only person that you have supporting you is your moronic friend
that you had to call in because you fricked up.
riding that mouse dick like a pogo stick!
>his
way to out yourself you dumb homosexual
You couldn't have fricked that statement up any more if you had tried.
You clearly didn't even watch for five seconds, let alone the whole video to see the points being made.
moron.
Address my point or shut up you tards, where are you from india? Mexico?
>disney shill smearing his primary demographic
why bother for something the average person won't go out of their way to see?
what you don't get as a brainlet is that billion dollar corporations pick and choose their battles
It would presumably just be 1 click to just freeze the score, they pick and choose their battles, because freezing the unverified score would be too hard lmao, do you even hear how stupid this is?
you would have a harder time with your gaslighting if both scores were frozen, would you not?
No it was because they froze reviews because they were getting """review bombed""". ie) they didn't like the bad reviews and had the power to just stop the count. Good review site they have there.
>Past 6,000 reviews the score is unlikely going to change much,
It froze at 1000 and just never moved. Not a single point down or even up. 10000 reviews apparently equally loved and hated it to the point where not a single shift happened.
And if you're dumb enough to believe it, you probably the exact level of stupid enough to like any of the Disney trilogy
We had NO IDEA.
You have to be pretty damn stupid to believe that any "audience" rating site isn't manipulated. Even if they weren't, the type of people who would actually go through the effort to sign up for these sites and contribute are not going to be normal and well adjusted or knowledgeable about movies, they're going to be kids and no life manchildren and politically motivated weirdos.
what the frick is this argument? the people that actually care and spend a lot of time watching and discussing movies are the kind of people you want critiquing movies, and is the basis for a "movie critic"
apathetic normies that consoom any old slop are exactly the kind of reviewers production studio x would love to have as their representative
>the people that actually care and spend a lot of time watching and discussing movies are the kind of people you want critiquing movies
In theory, sure. But you're describing an idyllic scenario. The people who spend the most time watching and discussing movies are shills who get paid to do so
No, shit.
lol her sully review is kinda based though, that movie sucked and said nothing
>NO WAY, REALLY??
have you not seen the last Cinemaphile thread? people still cling on to the idea this was a conspiracy.
No way!
>critics are paid shills
no way! say it aint so!
Reminds me of Beyonce's "movie" that nobody saw but is rated higher than 99.9% of them.
the mouse shills have come home to the cheese i see.
No way! Who would have thought.
>letting a website form your opinions
STOP IT!!
>movie has diverse characters, directed by woman or black
Instant fresh
I’d say it’s more than the century old critic payoff, their experts want to make a statement with every review and are reluctant to say a diverse movie sucks. Look at the way the top 100 rated films have changed in the past five years.
we've finally won fellow anti disney commiebros!! the mouse is finished this time for sure!
>movie critics are paid
it's crazy that these people are figuring out what any observant person figured out 40 years ago.
Wow... no shit. Remember when they pushed that fake paper that said Russian bots were tanking The Last Jedi's RT score? God muttmericans are pathetic.
It's always russian bots with leftists.
They can't accept the fact that woke garbage is exactly that, woke garbage that 3% of the population likes, and 15% of the population is too stupid to know any better that they are watching trash.
So, it's russian bots on FB, russian bots on twitter, russian bots on Cinemaphile, russian bots in IMDB, russian bots in the refrigerator.
Leftists are fricking moronic.
no shit.
Did people think they did reviews for free? They have to make money somehow.