>"It's too complex and makes my brain hurty."
>"The heroes and villains are not clearly defined and muddled!"
>"Anakin can't go through emotions like a regular human being. He's a crybaby!"
>These are actual criticisms of the prequels.
???????? Are people just fricking brainlets?
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The prequels had the potential to be a masterpiece, it's all there, in the elements. Only Revenge of the Sith comes close.
>Walking and Sitting the Movie
>Are people just fricking brainlets?
The general public has an average IQ below triple digits. Of course high IQ kinos like the prequels cannot be appreciated by them.
The general public's average IQ is 100 anon. What you should have said to sound smart was "the median IQ is less than triple digits."
>The general public's average IQ is 100 anon. What you should have said to sound smart was "the median IQ is less than triple digits."
THE ENTIRE SCALE OF IQ ADJUSTS EVERY YEAR, SO IF THE GENERAL PUBLIC INSTANTLY BECAME HALF AS SMART AS THEY WERE, THAN ALL 50 IQ PEOPLE ARE RE-REGISTERED AS 100 IQ PEOPLE WITHOUT GETTING ANY SMARTER, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOUR FAKE FRICKING SYSTEM WORKS.
are actual criticisms of the prequels.
no they aren't
Yes they are. I've seen them everywhere.
jar jar is the most crucial and important character in all of star wars lore and you can't change my mind
even more so that Darth Sneedious?
>"It's too complex and makes my brain hurty."
never heard this complaint
>"The heroes and villains are not clearly defined and muddled!"
I have only ever heard George Lucas mention this as being the reason he started with the second trilogy. But how could anyone not look at maul and qui-gon, or obi wan and dooku and be confused at who the bad guy is? They also don't really do a good job at showing the trade federation as being sympathetic and that the war is nuanced. It also doesn't help that Palp is using them to look like bad guys for his own gains and the movies are more shown towards that perspective.
>"Anakin can't go through emotions like a regular human being. He's a crybaby!"
Are you saying he does and the audience is saying he isn't allowed to or are you saying Anakin is unable to go through emotions like a regular human being? The problem is clearly the latter.
>never heard this complaint
>“Why does the villain do this thing THIS MAKE NO SENSE”
It’s a logical plan, use your head.
>“what are these characters motivation???”
Its in the subtext, use your head. Every character wears their motivation on their sleeve, George made it easy for us.
>”WHAT THE FRICK WHY IS PADME IN LOVE WITH A SEXY, HANDSOME, TALL, DARK, POWERFUL, FASCIST, SLIGHTLY BRUTAL, RELIGIOUS KNIGHTLY WARRIOR WITH A DARK PAST AND BARELY HIDDEN VULNERABILITY????”
Use your head. George understands women. Even the fascism is sexy.
>Anakin is unable to go through emotions like a regular human being? The problem is clearly the latter.
that's the point though. first, stylistically, emotions can be displayed in an over the top way, Japanese cinema does it, for example. Its fine.
But furthermore, the thing with Anakin is that his humanity is always at stake. There's a classic assotiation between humanity and emotions. Anakin can't handle his emotions in a proper way so he's on the limits towards being an animal. when his body starts getting fricked up, gets his arm cut off and gets a prosthetic, thats a classic image of a character losing his humanity and verging on the merely mechanical. when he's finally put in the darth vader suit he's unable to display emotion. he's finally more machine than man
Anakins emotional issues is only a problem if you want Star Wars to be about regular folk doing some shit
>>"The heroes and villains are not clearly defined and muddled!"
It's not even that they're not defined, it's that everyone has dogshit characterization; none of them behave like actual human beings, but instead puppets with Lucas's hands stuck up their ass to make them spout exposition.
The only person in the entire series with any real personality is Palpatine in the 3rd movie. It's no coincidence why that film is considered the least shitty of the three when you have this crazy old guy who loves being evil hamming it up and expressing some fricking passion for once.
>expressing some fricking passion for once.
Jedis don't do that, it's against the code.
"There is no passion, there is serenity."
Literally ALL Master Jedi are Lawful Good Paladin morons that cannot deviate from their rules. The Sith / Separtists are the complete opposite.
Star Wars is best when it's a little depersonalized and focused on themes and symbolism and not overly emotional character writing, like the sequels are. People just don't get it.
Are you autistic? We see every character experience a range of emotions
All Star Wars fans deserve death.
Okay. But why the frick was Obi-Wan still a padawan at 25?
Bad CGI, alot of backgrounds are fake, bad acting, mindless continous actions scenes, awkward romance subplot, Anakin is a child who can't act and then is a whiny creepy horny teenager followed by some edgy guy who slaughters a bunch of innocent children in two movies and he is suppose to be redeemed at the end of return of the jedi special edition, movies have tonnes of plot holes, jar jar binks exist to appeal to bored children who don't care about anything else in the movie, ruined many characters from the originals like Yoda and C3PO and the entire movie is just a product made on a production like to sell toys and merchandise to kids and video games to teenagers.
I would describe the romance subplot as robotic, not awkward. Awkward gives people the argument that real romantic relationships are supposed to be awkward.
The prequels were great and ROTS is unironically the best Star Wars movie.
Terrible b8.
>Are people just fricking brainlets?
yes. but in this case its not about the ability to reason or whatever. people accustomed to big budget studio adventure flicks tend to measure every film to that same standard. what happens then is they're completely lost when watching an actual work of art thats earnest and sincere.
in the case of the prequels its very clear that they're closer to an epic poem than to something like, say, E.T. or the Goonies
Stories are all the same. ET is about a kid learning to empathize through a character arc the same way Gilgamesh learns that he can't live forever through a character arc. To say that a work isn't given a fair shake because its meant to be something else is a cop out. If George Lucas wanted to make an epic poem, then he should have done that or maybe entertain the idea that you can fail at attempting to bridge two mediums.
i don't agree that stories are the same. Cinema in particular learned perticularly quickly that you can violate classic story rules and come up with a film thats its own thing. Just look at L'aventura for example
I don't think a story lives and dies with a character arc. Anakins arc is so conventional, classic and universal that its clear that you're watching something else. Lucas himself has said that he's more sympathetic to experimental cinema than anything else, and he explicitly evokes the language of music when talking about the prequels and the special editions and, yes, he even talks about the logic that works at the base of poetry even though everyone finds this part extremely funny when making fun of him.
>What is difference in mediums
>What are tropes
>What are genres
>What are different movie making methods
Jesus christ. This has to be the dumbest fricking board.
There have been books, comics, playwrights, even rides adapted into movies and no one had a problem understanding them. Once you convert a medium to another medium it is no longer the original medium, this should be a simple concept. It doesn't matter if people don't understand epic poems, because the star wars movies are movies and not poems. If someone has trouble parsing the format of a comic book, they aren't going to all of a sudden magically be confused by a marvel movie. Most people wouldn't know how to begin to read a Shakespeare play, but would have no trouble watching 10 things I hate about you. This poem excuse is a cop out and says more about George Lucas failing to adapt a medium than it says about the audience. If you ever seen Red Tails then you know he is capable of failing.
>All this cope because he doesn't understand the basics of writing.
its not an issue of adaptations across mediums. its about how we should be paying more attention to the way certain films are supposed to be approached and how we can't consider every film to be leveled to the same kind of reading. George Lucas's Star Wars shouldn't be approached the same way 80s whimsical adventure flicks are approached, and if you do then you're missing out or, in the worst of cases, you indulge in the pettiest and shittiest of attitudes towards a work that has demanded its artist decades of his life. (which is the default state of things since RLM)
i'm not saying you're supposed to like these films, but it should be inmediatly obvious that they deserve a little bit of respect and you should at least try to meet it halfway in terms of what they're trying to accomplish. I don't particularly love them but, calling them some of the worst films ever made? you must be on fricking crack or straight up delusional to say that, honestly. (i'm not talking about you, just the general mindset)
>"Stories are all the same because... character arcs are a thing..."
Way to prove OP's point, moron.
literally pleb filter
This is better than the entire prequel trilogy.
These are also actual criticisms of The Last Jedi (kino).
It's not complex or well written moron it's just fricking stupid.
Yes. These are the same people who believe a cartoon for toddlers fixed every problem the PT had by doing the opposite of what you described.
It was always proto Disney.
Yeah the Plinkett review really shows how stupid Mike actually is