It's been a while since I've seen TGTBATU but I recall it was oddly apolitical in regards to the US Civil War. If it were made today the Southerners would be obvious bad guys and there would probably be sadistic murders of them
Morton = white capitalist colonialist, the White World on its way out
Frank = white violence, coded as fascism ("capitalism in decay")
Harmonica = angry vengeful POC (confirmed by Leone)
Cheyenne = the "good white man" (self-sacrificial libtard)
Jill = the Longhouse, the modern feminized West which in the end distributes water to colored immigrant workers
Death of Harmonica's brother = the racist foundations on which the West was built
He was partially tartar by descent, so he was a bit Asiatic. He would have been a great Khan for a biopic - the Asiatic face with the light eyes/hair and exuded alpha/chad energy and fearlessness. I could buy him totally as a hard, hard man and conqueror that other men are awe-inspired by and follow
Also, Bronson being an American white actor with Eastern Euro background is also then kind of ironic and shows the white guilt myth of America is kind of bullshit.
Take slavery reparations, for example, why would white immigrants from Eastern Europe should care about that, especially when serfdom was a thing in Russian Empire at the time when slavery was still going on in US, when those same American blacks (and native Americans) have some white colonist and slave owner blood in them from original settlers coming in mixing with them, or fricking their slave women, like Jefferson did or whatever.
He definitely looks vaguely Asiatic, I guess that's why Leone cast him as a Native American
>Take slavery reparations, for example, why would white immigrants from Eastern Europe should care about that,
That's why Whiteness Studies unicels invented the concept of "whiteness" which is like this abstract power structure that benefits you if you have pale skin. Russian-Americans wouldn't have any material privileges, but they have this protective jacket of "whiteness" which supposedly gives them white privilege as outlined by Peggy MacIntosh
>the white guilt myth
I find the white guilt thing annoying and I'm a Bong by descent. Mainly because there's this idea of exclusivity of evil, i.e. all the nasty things whites did when conquering are uniquely white evils and we 'corrupted' everyone else. It's total horseshit. They are human evils, but whites occupied the top dog position so could enforce their will on others in a way Indians or east Asians simply couldn't (except on each other in the case of something like Japan and Korea). This bullshit notion that all the evil emantes from whites really does permeate media, like when I gave Yellowstone a watch and the b***h gave some lecture about how Columbus introduced genocide into the western hemisphere. Total fricking horseshit - I acknowledge Columbus was a piece of shit, but it's still horseshit. Look up the Crow Creek Massacre. I've never denied or tried to apologise for something inexcusable something like the UK has done in the past, but white guilt has never had any power over me because I'm not subscribing to some quasi-religious and historically illterate narrative where the world was all pure and perfect until the original evil that was the white man materalised into the existence and ruined it all.
I watched this spaghetti western and it was also quite Marxist/Third-Worldist. Is it common for the genre >Lee Van Cleef hunts a Mexican pedo rapist >Surprise! Actually the Mexican guy is innocent and actually it's le evil rich Europeans who framed the oppressed brown man for their crimes >Van Cleef becomes woke and sides with the brown guy against the rich white men >the evil Austrian guy even has Für Elise playing during the final duel
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That point of land going from industrialist to reformed prostitute to symbolize ''new America'' is just a feel good story. In truth industrialists won, or at most lost to other industrialists. American only got taken over more by them.
Also, I would argue it was the industrialist the ones that wanted cheap foreign labor, like Chinese to build rails for them.
>Take slavery reparations, for example, why would white immigrants from Eastern Europe should care about that,
That's why Whiteness Studies unicels invented the concept of "whiteness" which is like this abstract power structure that benefits you if you have pale skin. Russian-Americans wouldn't have any material privileges, but they have this protective jacket of "whiteness" which supposedly gives them white privilege as outlined by Peggy MacIntosh
Oh sure, they will find excuses. But then it's the same shit all over, kind of how Arab Muslims were supremacists over their own ethnic or religious minorities in the middle east, and if some European showed up he wouldn't be seen same way since he doesn't fit in ''browness'' or ''muslimness'' of the locals or whatever else. It's just tribalism reinvented to demonize whites/Europeans.
I can't watch the video but apparently it's about some white guilt nonsense? Does this person realize that the film is italian and we don't give a shit about any of that?
Plenty of Italians are some brand of anti European leftoid, and same was true in 1960's. And we are just talking about one person here, who in this video is not even condemned direcetly that much.
>Plenty of Italians are some brand of anti European leftoid
Even then it's not really about race, that's an american obsession. Trying to read old european movies through racial lenses is the kind of moronic thing only an american would think of doing.
These films had race relations so why not examine them that way. Of course some people are disturbed by this approach (regardless of whether it's done by academia libtards or YouTube polchuds), but it's interesting
My impression of Leone is that he had this kind of "boomer liberal" worldview that became widespread in the 60s and is still the default mode of most Europeans to some extent. Ironically these people, though they condemned white civilization, lived during the time when this civilization was at the height of its might and white people were still the minority. Now that POC are enacting special Oscars diversity guidelines, films like OUATITW feel blissfully naive, product of a halcyon age where white civilization was so secure in itself that you could criticize it without fear of it starting to wobble
You do lol. As a Balkanoid I read your western comics and it's like they were written in a joint effort by Jean-Jacques Rousseau (le noble savage) and Susan Sontag (ypipo be demons). Zagor for example is a comic that demonizes white civilization and glorifies the Indians, although ironically the comic would be extremely un-PC and Eurocentric for today's standards because of the white savior trope, where Zagor gives himself the right to judge Indians and BTFO them when they get too uppity
Ralph already did a review of this, why are you doing it?
Who the frick is Ralph
blocked in my country on copyright grounds
le sigh!
qrd?
Racial analysis of OUaTitW
Cringe analysis delivered in autistic monotone
It's a very accurate analysis, except the TGTBATU part which he didn't explain
It's been a while since I've seen TGTBATU but I recall it was oddly apolitical in regards to the US Civil War. If it were made today the Southerners would be obvious bad guys and there would probably be sadistic murders of them
It's only cringe in a few places, otherwise it's decent enough.
something something le white man bad
something something white colonialism symbolism decay the west has fallen
something something monotone commentary
Once Upon a Time the West Has Fallen
In case of Whites of American it's probably true, not even a joke. And this film came out like in 1968, so it about checks out.
Morton = white capitalist colonialist, the White World on its way out
Frank = white violence, coded as fascism ("capitalism in decay")
Harmonica = angry vengeful POC (confirmed by Leone)
Cheyenne = the "good white man" (self-sacrificial libtard)
Jill = the Longhouse, the modern feminized West which in the end distributes water to colored immigrant workers
Death of Harmonica's brother = the racist foundations on which the West was built
Holy kino!
buy an ad homosexual
>the hero harmonica, though played by a white actor
you sure about that?
Are Lithuanians not white now?
We are, blue eyes and pale skin and all of that, but Bronson was kind of a bit odd looking for a Lithuanian.
He definitely looks vaguely Asiatic, I guess that's why Leone cast him as a Native American
He was partially tartar by descent, so he was a bit Asiatic. He would have been a great Khan for a biopic - the Asiatic face with the light eyes/hair and exuded alpha/chad energy and fearlessness. I could buy him totally as a hard, hard man and conqueror that other men are awe-inspired by and follow
>He was partially tartar by descent,
Right, now that you remind me, I forgot reading about that.
Also, Bronson being an American white actor with Eastern Euro background is also then kind of ironic and shows the white guilt myth of America is kind of bullshit.
Take slavery reparations, for example, why would white immigrants from Eastern Europe should care about that, especially when serfdom was a thing in Russian Empire at the time when slavery was still going on in US, when those same American blacks (and native Americans) have some white colonist and slave owner blood in them from original settlers coming in mixing with them, or fricking their slave women, like Jefferson did or whatever.
Yeah, he has that going.
>Take slavery reparations, for example, why would white immigrants from Eastern Europe should care about that,
That's why Whiteness Studies unicels invented the concept of "whiteness" which is like this abstract power structure that benefits you if you have pale skin. Russian-Americans wouldn't have any material privileges, but they have this protective jacket of "whiteness" which supposedly gives them white privilege as outlined by Peggy MacIntosh
>the white guilt myth
I find the white guilt thing annoying and I'm a Bong by descent. Mainly because there's this idea of exclusivity of evil, i.e. all the nasty things whites did when conquering are uniquely white evils and we 'corrupted' everyone else. It's total horseshit. They are human evils, but whites occupied the top dog position so could enforce their will on others in a way Indians or east Asians simply couldn't (except on each other in the case of something like Japan and Korea). This bullshit notion that all the evil emantes from whites really does permeate media, like when I gave Yellowstone a watch and the b***h gave some lecture about how Columbus introduced genocide into the western hemisphere. Total fricking horseshit - I acknowledge Columbus was a piece of shit, but it's still horseshit. Look up the Crow Creek Massacre. I've never denied or tried to apologise for something inexcusable something like the UK has done in the past, but white guilt has never had any power over me because I'm not subscribing to some quasi-religious and historically illterate narrative where the world was all pure and perfect until the original evil that was the white man materalised into the existence and ruined it all.
Read Noel Ignatiev
Bronson was a mutt. His father was a Lipka Tatar.
Sorry bud, 30 seconds in and can't stand the monotone autistic voice of the guy who made it.
Pass from me.
1.25x speed + subtitles
No.
>monotone autistic voice
uh that's just the chud diction, learn to appreciate it ok
i cant think of anything that can ruin your pure enjoyment of a truly great film than listening to some homosexual pontificate about it on YouTube.
>doesn't watch a 6 hour detailed review about a 2 hour movie
What's wrong with you? It's like you don't even care about le art cinematique!
The commentary is very edifying
i can think for myself frick off.
I don't think you can, sorry
>Blue eyed men are le bad
Italian cope, the movie.
I watched this spaghetti western and it was also quite Marxist/Third-Worldist. Is it common for the genre
>Lee Van Cleef hunts a Mexican pedo rapist
>Surprise! Actually the Mexican guy is innocent and actually it's le evil rich Europeans who framed the oppressed brown man for their crimes
>Van Cleef becomes woke and sides with the brown guy against the rich white men
>the evil Austrian guy even has Für Elise playing during the final duel
>it's another video essay
>blahblahblah
dislike
Wouldn't have bothered Morton that someone is after him
6:30
That point of land going from industrialist to reformed prostitute to symbolize ''new America'' is just a feel good story. In truth industrialists won, or at most lost to other industrialists. American only got taken over more by them.
Also, I would argue it was the industrialist the ones that wanted cheap foreign labor, like Chinese to build rails for them.
Oh sure, they will find excuses. But then it's the same shit all over, kind of how Arab Muslims were supremacists over their own ethnic or religious minorities in the middle east, and if some European showed up he wouldn't be seen same way since he doesn't fit in ''browness'' or ''muslimness'' of the locals or whatever else. It's just tribalism reinvented to demonize whites/Europeans.
Both the industrialists and the "New America" won
Yes, would say that they were one and the same, or maybe ''New America'' was and is just a tool of the ''industrialists''.
What "subversion"? It's still the stereotypical Spag. Western arch.
Spaghetti westerns were subversions of the classic Hollywood westerns, and this film is paradigmatic of that
All-American western hero Fonda as the fascistic bad guy Frank
>still seething 55 years about a mild deconstruction / homage of a meme genre
oof
Blacks still seethe when ypipo paint their face black
>guns go TWANG and PWING
I will never fricking ever watch a movie made before 1985.
Were soundmix-homosexuals just moronic back then or what?
That's a moronic reason to not watch a movie.
You're moronic, anon. I'm sorry.
That gun sound is kino. Modern movies have boring gunslop
To a lesser degree the wild bunch has this going on too but it's more about the same of white triumph.
I can't watch the video but apparently it's about some white guilt nonsense? Does this person realize that the film is italian and we don't give a shit about any of that?
Plenty of Italians are some brand of anti European leftoid, and same was true in 1960's. And we are just talking about one person here, who in this video is not even condemned direcetly that much.
>Plenty of Italians are some brand of anti European leftoid
Even then it's not really about race, that's an american obsession. Trying to read old european movies through racial lenses is the kind of moronic thing only an american would think of doing.
These films had race relations so why not examine them that way. Of course some people are disturbed by this approach (regardless of whether it's done by academia libtards or YouTube polchuds), but it's interesting
My impression of Leone is that he had this kind of "boomer liberal" worldview that became widespread in the 60s and is still the default mode of most Europeans to some extent. Ironically these people, though they condemned white civilization, lived during the time when this civilization was at the height of its might and white people were still the minority. Now that POC are enacting special Oscars diversity guidelines, films like OUATITW feel blissfully naive, product of a halcyon age where white civilization was so secure in itself that you could criticize it without fear of it starting to wobble
>and white people were still the minority
majority*
You do lol. As a Balkanoid I read your western comics and it's like they were written in a joint effort by Jean-Jacques Rousseau (le noble savage) and Susan Sontag (ypipo be demons). Zagor for example is a comic that demonizes white civilization and glorifies the Indians, although ironically the comic would be extremely un-PC and Eurocentric for today's standards because of the white savior trope, where Zagor gives himself the right to judge Indians and BTFO them when they get too uppity
There are no indians in spaghetti western. We had mexicans, but that was always about class struggle.
I'm talking about your comics
PKNA was the shit.