It's weird to me that despite being a piece of shit with no redeemable qualities, Moe is less hated in the strip'a universe than Calvin.

It's weird to me that despite being a piece of shit with no redeemable qualities, Moe is less hated in the strip'a universe than Calvin. It feels like Watterson just wants to keep shitting on Calvin

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd shit on Calvin, too. He says a lot of pretentious, pseudo-intellectual shit for his age

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile Moe is fricking dumb and all he does is beat up Calvin, yet the strip wants us to demonize Calvin whenever he throws a snowball or water balloon at Susie or causes trouble with his parents

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'd shit on Calvin, too.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ah sweet another Calvin schizo thread.
    Anyway moe was just supposed to be a bully Calvin can't deal with. I don't recall any strips where he would get his karma in some way. Might be a wasted opportunity I guess, if Watterson wanted he could've written an arc where Calvin tries pranking him or something. But maybe Watterson himself was helplessly bullied as a kid and wanted to convey that experience.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My problem is more how Watterson decided to exaggerate Calvon's worst traits once he came back from his sebbatical, and how despite showing he has an all right heart deep down the strip wants us to believe that he isn't good in any way

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The frick are you talking about

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't engage this creature

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't engage this creature

          Calvin is exclusively shown to be bratty after 1991, except for the few moments he has with Hobbes

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what about the Rosalyn Calvinball arc?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's the exception. Honestly I feel like all the characters who aren't Calvin, Hobbes or his parents to be completely wasted, especially Susie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      outside of school shootings nobody ever really 'gets back' at bullies. at best they mellow out by high school and maybe apologize to you if you sit next to each other in a class

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol, let's see if Susie ever forgives Calvin. I bet she won't

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Y'all ever noticed how a lot of the strips end with the message that it's not worth having friends
    >Uncle Max telling Calvin's mom that he thinks all of his friends are imaginary
    >Calvin telling Hobbes that animals are better to be around than people and that being with a tiger is better than being around real people
    >Susie saying that she thinks books are the only friends worth happening
    I feel like Watterson has a bunch of issues with people in general

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is a notorious recluse in real life as well, and in the few interview we have, he’s shown himself to be fairly soft spoken, introverted, and wary of people. It’s not a shock that his work reflected many of his own traits.

      Also, bait thread, but I’ll chime in that the strip isn’t really meant to be be a morality play in any way, but rather a spectacle of this rather selfish and entitled over-intelligent kid usually being knocked down a peg for his negative attitude. Calvin certainly has his good moments too, but no one in the strip is meant to be a role model— it’s a newspaper cartoon, it’s supposed to be entertaining more than anything, and watterson himself was pretty adamant about that from day one

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know it's just a newspaper strip, but like I said, I feel like once Watterson came back from his first sebbatical the strip lost the heart it once had, and we never got anything as good as the stories with the baby raccoon, Calvin trying to play baseball, or Calvin getting his toy truck stolen from Moe where we get more of his character beyond being a trouble maker and making him still sympathetic to the reader

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm on team Susie, always have been

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based
      Power of friendship is overused

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. Bill Watterson

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bill Watterson is like the anti-Hideaki Anno

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What does that mean

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anno is a complete sell-out whose big message is to form connections with other people, I guess?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's a better message than Calvon and Hobbes, which is don't form connections or find common ground with others and instead escape into fantasy. Frick, End of Evangelion has a healthier message

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This is where the western individualism and eastern collectivism stand in stark contrast: we think people should seek their own purpose while they believe people's purpose is to serve The Hive by working 18 hours a day and not bringing shame upon The Hive.
              Perhaps you find the latter appealing.
              I am not being serious, please don't argue with me

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I generally think it's a good thing to try and better understand other people rather than just say frick everyone

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think we ever seen Moe interact with anyone but Calvin so we don't know how anyone else feels about Moe.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Moe is imaginary.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seek help you Deviantart tier autistic spammer.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Moe is less hated in the strip'a universe than Calvin

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, kind of?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plot twist: You find out Keene was actually Moe as a kid.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who's Kenee

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many of the posts in this thread are by OP changing his phone IP or getting his discord friends to bump it up

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seethe

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what's OP's ploy here? Become an annoying pseudo namegay for the attention? Some shitty psyop attempt to change overall opinion on Calvin and Hobbes by poisoning the well on any discussion and making an association between the comic and this spam? I'm curious what the motivations are here because of how bizarre it's been watching this play out.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My goal is to show the shitty fandom how toxic Calvin and Susie are and how they will never be friends

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And let me start off by asking anons this? If Susie were really Calvin's friend, why did she tell him she couldn't stand him? Why did she sign a contract that forbid future social interaction? And why does she never try to understand him? It's because she hates him, and she will never forgive him

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And of course, no rebuttal

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why don't you look at all the replies in all of the previous threads you've made on this shit? Maybe print them out too so you can read them offline. Is having the same conversation over and over again that fun? You even already have an answer here

            He is a notorious recluse in real life as well, and in the few interview we have, he’s shown himself to be fairly soft spoken, introverted, and wary of people. It’s not a shock that his work reflected many of his own traits.

            Also, bait thread, but I’ll chime in that the strip isn’t really meant to be be a morality play in any way, but rather a spectacle of this rather selfish and entitled over-intelligent kid usually being knocked down a peg for his negative attitude. Calvin certainly has his good moments too, but no one in the strip is meant to be a role model— it’s a newspaper cartoon, it’s supposed to be entertaining more than anything, and watterson himself was pretty adamant about that from day one

            for all your autistic overly literal nitpicking.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              None of the answers I received make sense as to why they believe that she and Calvin are ultimately friends. She's forced to sit next to him at lunch, and we don't see them next to each other anywhere else

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm pretty sure Watterson said he hates people pairing Calvin and Susie as friends

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              She literally called him a conceited blowhard. Why would she ever like him

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Again, no answer. You aren't even trying

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Moe is the most forgetable character in the entire strip

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does moe even interact with any other characters ? Does any other character ever bring up Moe in conversations ? Moe might as well be nega-hobbs and only exist in calvin's imagination to justify his self harming tendencies.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    giving your protagonist challenges is, like, the law of storytelling. calvin is not a real person. he is meant to be related to. watterson isn't trying to say "look how he deserves this" he's just trying to appeal to the folks reading it. damn

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not true. All Calvin is after 1992 is a mouth piece for Watterson to complain about how people suck and how everyone around him hates him. He was trying to sabotage Calvin's character so he wouldn't be marketable

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What?

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