I enjoyed Barbie more but that's probably because of the kindset I went in. It is a movie made for little girls, I was expecting it to be kinda cringe but fun. Oppenheimer is supposed to be le true cinema but it isn't that great.
Not sure how you can hate this absolute kino, probably because you are a zoom zoom who watches it on a small screen while looking at his phone half the time.
Visually an awesome movie that's solid up until the end which is only slightly better than Interstellars moronic ending.
terminator 2. making arnie the good terminator was just awful and undermines the first one
T2 isn't a bad movie per se but the idea that it's better than the original is definitely a pleb take I see a lot on this board.
BR2049
Marks when zoomers fully invaded this site.
Yeah this movie is dog shit. Pretty sure the only people who love it are zoomie zooms who never watched or appreciate the original. Personally I've only watched about an hour of it before i turned it off, it was a moronic idea to make a sequel to a movie as perfect as blade runner and the director is completely overrated.
Meh. Picrel is more interesting than all of FMJ characters combined.
Why can't you appreciate both? I like the visuals and dialogue of Apocalypse Now but Platoon is a great gritty Vietnam War movie where the soldiers feel much more relatable versus A.N. feels much more "artistic" I guess.
100% this. Apocalypse Now has all the makings of an incredible film, but it never delivers on its promise and ends up falling flat. I still like it tremendously for what it is, but definitely flawed.
It's a movie about all the ways war turns people mad combined with a general "war le bad" message, but it does that really well. The whole vibe of it is really what makes it though, it gets its message across more in atmosphere and emotion like a movie should.
If you think about it as a segment of a guitar hero song, then its like coppola forgot to flip up when the blue metre filled and he got 100 but could have got more points by the end.
It doesn't have to "say" anything. You're the type of people that want every media to preach something to you like a 5 year old much like current slop with political agendas.
It's a movie that's constantly implying that it has something to say about an overabundance of things without ever actually committing to it.
But also, for me the plot is very nonsensical. the trailer kinda implies it’s going to be kino with overabundance of action scenes, and in reality they all happen like 20 minutes into the movie. It’s too long too, but tbf i watched the directors cut
I still hate how they blue balled us throughout the movie in terms of Marlons character and then he practically just shows up and dies offscreen
5 months ago
Anonymous
By the 70s, Brando wasn't a lead actor as much, more like a supporting actor with a Lead actor salary.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Then they should’ve cast a competent actor. Not some fat grandpa
5 months ago
Anonymous
Brando's the best screen actor ever lmao
>Coppola intended the movie to have a battle for the ending, with Brando leading troops and Sheen helping.
Coppola never intended that. That was the ending John Millius wrote, but Coppola never liked it and was always going to change it, he just really struggled to come up with something to change it too.
Yeh, didn't realize Coppola intended on changing it before the set issues.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Shut up boomer. Name one good movie he’s in that isn’t godfather.
5 months ago
Anonymous
everybody dead
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Name one good movie he’s in that isn’t godfather
Apocalypse Now lmao. But if you say I'm cheating, Brando has played in many classics such as Streetcar named desire, the wild ones, julius caesar, on the waterfront, one eyed jacks, Mutiny on the bounty, last tango in paris, Guys and Dols... Brando's been involved in many movies. And even in the bad ones, he's still a great watch.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Great now name movies real people know and not just boomerslop
5 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao, real people know and love those movies.
it does NOT just fly by
Ironically, it does what Burt Reynolds aimed to avoid:
It shoots its wad in the first hour and then after it just ambles and I've lost interest. No amount of shoehorned period music can make up for the lack of plot in the secondhalf. The plot that DOES exist - who cares? to quote the simpsons "It's just a bunch of stuff that happened."
and the thing is with flawed characters is that they should really have redeeming qualities
What was julianne moores redeeming quality? She was nice sometimes?? I wanted to like her character and pity her, but I couldn't. I wanted to like dirk digglar, I did in his first 20 minutes but why should I feel bad for the kid? because he has a huge hog and lucked into a lucrative albeit predatory career? WHO CARES
The direction and camerawork was fantastic I'll grant it that. And I really loved the sequence during the first sex "scene" where it cuts to the images of film running through camera machinery. There were a few short bits that I enjoyed. But the film wasn't funny, it felt like it was trying too hard to be unpredictable and surprising, and overall I just felt the screenplay was weak. It's a movie that attempts to convince you it's iconic by having pulpy scenes. But we've seen that. By better filmmakers. In stories with ingenuity and actual creativity.
It felt like derivative smut that only works if it tricks you into feeling cool for watching it. I didn't. I felt dirty.
They're suffering consequences of poor choices and ego, and they realize they need each other more than they had previously believed, so they got back together as a makekit family. Juliane Moore's redeeming quality was her motherliness and the way she treated some of the younger people like children. Dirk Diggler's mom was deeply apeshit and the movie should've included one more scene of her being abusive, he's also an idiot remember. It's all opinion, but it felt comfortably formulaic in the right ways but that's just me. The screenplay rocks and Hollywood was excited about it, there's a reason they decided to give PTA the chance at such a young age.
Lol you are mad because you wanted an action flick? And no the movie clearly tells us something about human history and war but yes it doesn't spell it out.
>Nam movie >2 hours of some chuds in a boat doing nothing
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOO
He’s lying the wedding is like half an hour, if that, and it’s great. We have people in this thread unironically complaining that movies don’t have enough explosions in them.
The pseudos have arrived. Stop defending movies like these that are supposed to be war movies and end up being boring and overdramatic.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Its a war movie in the sense that its about war, set during a war but not really about that specific one.
The boat journey is a lot like a journey throughout history, there are constant references like the helicopter squad being basically 19th century cavalry the plantation as a symbol for colonialism, the bridge being basically a medival siege situation etc. Kurz compound ends up being some primordial, tribal environment like you imagine stone age people lived.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yea yea yea. It’s still not a good movie
5 months ago
Anonymous
>my war movie has to have explosions and gunfire in it
The Deer Hunter is a classic case of nuCinemaphile getting filtered by a genuinely well acted and shot film with character development. Better character writing than the vast majority of war films. But it's 3 hours and dialogue oriented so capesloppers can't handle it.
Lol you are mad because you wanted an action flick? And no the movie clearly tells us something about human history and war but yes it doesn't spell it out.
punch drunk love, its pta's worst film along with that one with the haim girl
Naw I think Licorice Pizza is his worst, although I've never seen Hard Eight.
see [...]
But also, for me the plot is very nonsensical. the trailer kinda implies it’s going to be kino with overabundance of action scenes, and in reality they all happen like 20 minutes into the movie. It’s too long too, but tbf i watched the directors cut
>It's a movie that's constantly implying that it has something to say about an overabundance of things without ever actually committing to it.
I can understand that criticism, it touches on the nature of war and why people wage war and what is necessary to make a successful one, the true requirements of war, what drives people to actually achieve goals vs just drifting through life. Also included is the stubbornness of colonialism and the sheer absurdity of transplanting a civilization on top of another (French Plantation Scene, which also criticizes war and the purpose of it). >the plot
The plot is a combination of multiple different sources into a somewhat original piece of work. The original script by John Millius was an adaption of the Joseph Conrad book Heart of Darkness, but transported to Vietnam. It also takes influence from the Odyssey in the way it's a boat trip adventure where there's a set destination. That attributes to the aimless feeling. Coppola intended the movie to have a battle for the ending, with Brando leading troops and Sheen helping. The budget or filming schedule didn't allow it and we got the ending we got instead. This movie's making of is a movie in its own right. I loved the setpieces like the helicopter attack, the playmates, the do lung bridge, the boat attack with the death scene while the tape plays, along with all the scenes with Brando and Dennis Hopper. It's a psychedelic war film with a high budget and high expertise working at the height of their powers. Brando's improvisation and laziness and he still creates an eerie, otherworldly type leader. Such a brilliant movie, give the Final Cut a go, with Remux 2160p.
>The budget or filming schedule didn't allow it and we got the ending we got instead
I always thought the ending was changed because Brando had gained too much weight and was too fricking fat to do anything they had planned.
yeh, he was getting paid like a million a week and didn't prepare for the role at all and was a fat piece of shit diva queen and just fricking wings it and knocks it out of the park
>The budget or filming schedule didn't allow it and we got the ending we got instead
I always thought the ending was changed because Brando had gained too much weight and was too fricking fat to do anything they had planned.
yeh, he was getting paid like a million a week and didn't prepare for the role at all and was a fat piece of shit diva queen and just fricking wings it and knocks it out of the park
>Coppola intended the movie to have a battle for the ending, with Brando leading troops and Sheen helping.
Coppola never intended that. That was the ending John Millius wrote, but Coppola never liked it and was always going to change it, he just really struggled to come up with something to change it too.
>Arnold being the good guy was still pretty genius
it was a pure business decision because arnie had become a superstar and wasnt supposed to be the bad guy. artistically, it made the machines less threatening
Also it hardly undermines it when it’s explained they programmed him. Just emphasised he’s a relentless unthinking machine
it is precedence that the machines can be turned against themselves, automatically making them less scary. why would you have to "bargain" or "reason" with them instead of trying to reprogram them?
>loveably
They were fricking morons
Credit where credit is due for portraying them honestly but like
IDK I felt like dirk was a frick up moron. Julianne moore, a frickup moron. PSH, absolute moron. Don Cheadle was a moron but at least he had clear vulnerabilities.
The only time I laughed in the entire movie was when William H Macy was arguing with the cinematographer or whatever.
They were all frick up morons, that's part of the charm. Even Burt Reynolds was an idiot with him thinking his movies were these artistic masterpieces when there were obvious and easily fixable mistakes in the movie as seen in that film editing scene. The whole movie works as a drama because you see their flaws and you see how their flaws lead to flawed interactions which leads to the aforementioned drama. 2 and a half hours just flys by because the movie finds itself so packed with great writing and direction.
it does NOT just fly by
Ironically, it does what Burt Reynolds aimed to avoid:
It shoots its wad in the first hour and then after it just ambles and I've lost interest. No amount of shoehorned period music can make up for the lack of plot in the secondhalf. The plot that DOES exist - who cares? to quote the simpsons "It's just a bunch of stuff that happened."
and the thing is with flawed characters is that they should really have redeeming qualities
What was julianne moores redeeming quality? She was nice sometimes?? I wanted to like her character and pity her, but I couldn't. I wanted to like dirk digglar, I did in his first 20 minutes but why should I feel bad for the kid? because he has a huge hog and lucked into a lucrative albeit predatory career? WHO CARES
The direction and camerawork was fantastic I'll grant it that. And I really loved the sequence during the first sex "scene" where it cuts to the images of film running through camera machinery. There were a few short bits that I enjoyed. But the film wasn't funny, it felt like it was trying too hard to be unpredictable and surprising, and overall I just felt the screenplay was weak. It's a movie that attempts to convince you it's iconic by having pulpy scenes. But we've seen that. By better filmmakers. In stories with ingenuity and actual creativity.
It felt like derivative smut that only works if it tricks you into feeling cool for watching it. I didn't. I felt dirty.
It's not a scene it's most of the movie and it's shot to basically make the viewer experience a wedding.
You ever been to one? Weddings are boring unless you are drunk.
It barely features Vietnam, its a character piece about a bunch of friends and how the war changed the trajectory of their life or something, it has that one very iconic scene where they are forced ro play russian roulette and the rest is dreadfully boring.
He’s lying the wedding is like half an hour, if that, and it’s great. We have people in this thread unironically complaining that movies don’t have enough explosions in them.
He’s lying the wedding is like half an hour, if that, and it’s great. We have people in this thread unironically complaining that movies don’t have enough explosions in them.
None likes that one aside from the one iconic scene.
I mean I think I would like it if the characters were more fleshed out but all we get is them fricking around on a wedding and then we are supposed to react to the tonal whiplash with Vietnam but I just didn't care.
It's not a scene it's most of the movie and it's shot to basically make the viewer experience a wedding.
You ever been to one? Weddings are boring unless you are drunk.
It barely features Vietnam, its a character piece about a bunch of friends and how the war changed the trajectory of their life or something, it has that one very iconic scene where they are forced ro play russian roulette and the rest is dreadfully boring.
He’s lying the wedding is like half an hour, if that, and it’s great. We have people in this thread unironically complaining that movies don’t have enough explosions in them.
Isn't it about mental illness from war trauma, PTSD.#Been a long time since I watched it but like rambo being about PTSD the main char de niro cannot fit back into society and be normal after the horrors he had experienced in the war as a PoW.
When I watched it that was what i took from it, but it has been a very long time since I seen it.
Slow movie interlaced with nam flashbacks.
NTA but Barnes is just edgy literally me fodder. Hes there to look evil and menacing. Hes cool but not all that interesting.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Joker isn’t any better
5 months ago
Anonymous
There are only so many archetypes in a war movie you can have as a main character. You either get reluctant soldier or guy which joined to serve his country and such. PVT Pyle is a more interesting character than Barnes or Joker.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Do you just see yourself in him because you’re fat?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think interesting means "oh my god hes me!!" anon
5 months ago
Dunkaccino
There are only so many archetypes in a war movie you can have as a main character. You either get reluctant soldier or guy which joined to serve his country and such. PVT Pyle is a more interesting character than Barnes or Joker.
Bait. He’s one of the most kino characters in cinema history. You missed the entire point of his character if you just think he’s “evil and menacing”
5 months ago
Anonymous
>bait
No. >most kino characters in history
Cool to look at? yeah I agree but not some deep character or something >hes evil and menacing
I said hes there to LOOK evil and menacing and be the counter to frankly handsome Elias. Its for the audience to decide if he is evil or not. Just by looking at him you know hes supposed to be the antagonist of the story and you can tell his character archetype.
5 months ago
Dunkaccino
Honestly it sounds like you're paying more attention to his facial scars than his actual character. If you’ve only watched Platoon once, rewatch it. There’s a lot you miss as a first time viewer.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Barnes did nothing wrong. That alone makes him an interesting character because he’s a misunderstood guy who is the reason he is because of the war. Arguably he looks better than Elias, too.
not him but I turned that crap off. was boring watching bums drink in a bar and get married.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Deer Hunter sucks. Takes like 45min to get to the Vietnam part. The only cool parts are the torture scenes.
Movie might have been cool in the 70s but the pacing and plot suck now days. and now Im not an ADHD zoomer homosexual
theres people on this board who think its the superior vietnam movie
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's odd because there is no way in hell paratroopers would flop out of a chopper and find their special forces friend, my girlfriend (she was a marine) laughed at it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>girlfriend >marine
anon…
5 months ago
Anonymous
Deer Hunter sucks. Takes like 45min to get to the Vietnam part. The only cool parts are the torture scenes.
Movie might have been cool in the 70s but the pacing and plot suck now days. and now Im not an ADHD zoomer homosexual
I generally dislike BR and I disliked BR2049 when I watched it first too but i gave it another try, maybe twice and now I think it is an amazing movie, but it falls of dramatically as soon as harrison ford is shoved in there for member berries.
It really would have been a god tier movie without him in it.
I recently watched BR 2049 the anime and the prequels to 2049 and I still dislike the original BR, its boring.
First time watching this, I watched the Redux cut and I was so enthralled by it that I had to stop between every 30 minutes just because of "heavy" it was. Not because of the plot but because of how focused I was
I literally enjoyed every scene
This PoS
IT is a boring shitty slow burning gay love story with the title itself ruining the fricking story.
I cannot see why anyone would ever want to watch this past the first like 20 mins after they do the train heist.
>IT is a boring shitty slow burning gay love story with the title itself ruining the fricking story.
You have to be over the age of 18 to post on this site
I thought it was alright. I mean the ritual scene was fricking kino but everything before and after that just sort of happens, everything felt pointless tbh.
What? Everybody dislikes children of men on this board. They think it's woke or whatever but never talk about the technical side which is absolutely phenomenal
>12 angry men
Filmed theater and proto social justice propaganda. >2049
BR for the troonygelion audience, inferior in every single way. >Dark knight rises
Only good for the plane scene memes, otherwise it's still capeshit. >Love exposure
Live action anime for delusional weebs, only good if you're under 18.
Only the 'literally me' gays like 2049. It's just a unnecessary sequel to a perfect movie. They shot it on digital which kinda kills the point of making a Blade Runner movie.
Yup, Scorsese went full sloppy-mode at around midways into Cape Fear. He only managed to make one other kino after 1991 Bringing Out the Dead
everything else he did feels just like a money grab, out of ideas, copying stuff
That said, The Departed isn't bad, it's a solid movie, a 6.5 or 7 out 10, but not better than the original, it gets dragged down by the stars whom never really acts more than themselves in a way. When Marc Walhberg is the best actor then your movie better have a comedic tone to it
>HEAT
Watched it for the first time recently. Heist movies and bank robber movies are literally my favorite genre but this movie was just boring. Beginning was good I guess. But the “famous shootout” scene that supposedly helped train police and soldiers or whatever on how to scoot and shoot was just boring. And all the “plot” and “romance” in between was dry and meaningless. If it didn’t have Pachino and Niro in it, nobody would have cared about it.
idk if Cinemaphile likes it but generally the boys seem to rank this in the top1000 and I dont see it. Its just an action movie with nothing profound going on.
>but it's realistic!
One man kills a 20 or whatever. Yeah, right! No difference between this and Commando or Rambo II.
>but the main hero isn't ripped
Bruce Willis was voted as one of the most attractive men in People's Magazine in the 90s
>but... but action!
yeah. action done right can be good, take Matrix for instance, they added philosophical depth
>but.. but.. christmas
ha! I knew it. so what if its a holiday movie. Is that really the only reason to love a movie?
didn't find the chicks THAT hot. sure, I woudn't turn them down, I guess, tho Cinemaphile acts like those white hoes can compete with my queens, pic related, no way I say, no way, nah-ah, big no-no
Oppenheimer
No one actually enjoyed Oppenheimer except for a handful of extremely vocal pseuds.
Fine. Barbie then
I enjoyed Barbie more but that's probably because of the kindset I went in. It is a movie made for little girls, I was expecting it to be kinda cringe but fun. Oppenheimer is supposed to be le true cinema but it isn't that great.
It’s great if you watch it like a documentary. There’s too much information you need to keep up with. If you don’t like it then not for you
i got through about half of it
i found little boy and fat lad or whatever the paul newman movie was much more engaging and enjoyable
that was all a marketing grift. same as barbie. YOU didnt fall for it, congratulations
2001: A Space Odyssey
This movie is dumb but the aesthetic is kino.
Are you me? 30minutes of gratuitous time wasting before they even get to the space station and I just turned it off.
Yes it's the NieR Automata of Cinemaphile.
Not sure how you can hate this absolute kino, probably because you are a zoom zoom who watches it on a small screen while looking at his phone half the time.
Visually an awesome movie that's solid up until the end which is only slightly better than Interstellars moronic ending.
T2 isn't a bad movie per se but the idea that it's better than the original is definitely a pleb take I see a lot on this board.
Yeah this movie is dog shit. Pretty sure the only people who love it are zoomie zooms who never watched or appreciate the original. Personally I've only watched about an hour of it before i turned it off, it was a moronic idea to make a sequel to a movie as perfect as blade runner and the director is completely overrated.
Why can't you appreciate both? I like the visuals and dialogue of Apocalypse Now but Platoon is a great gritty Vietnam War movie where the soldiers feel much more relatable versus A.N. feels much more "artistic" I guess.
What the frick is this spacing? Never thought I’d see a boomer newbie
It's a movie that's constantly implying that it has something to say about an overabundance of things without ever actually committing to it.
100% this. Apocalypse Now has all the makings of an incredible film, but it never delivers on its promise and ends up falling flat. I still like it tremendously for what it is, but definitely flawed.
What does it promise?
A coherent plot
In what way does it promise that and in what way did it not deliver?
have a nice day
Apocalypse Chads: 1
Brainlets: 0
It's a movie about all the ways war turns people mad combined with a general "war le bad" message, but it does that really well. The whole vibe of it is really what makes it though, it gets its message across more in atmosphere and emotion like a movie should.
hey man, this is unrelated but, do you need assistance when eating your food? like needing someone to guide a spoon into your mouth?
Seething normiecore fan detected.
>nooo my coppolas and kubrickos noooo!
>It smelled of death and disease
>Literal next scene talking about the war
>How does it smell to you soldier?
Are you fricking serious?
If you think about it as a segment of a guitar hero song, then its like coppola forgot to flip up when the blue metre filled and he got 100 but could have got more points by the end.
It doesn't have to "say" anything. You're the type of people that want every media to preach something to you like a 5 year old much like current slop with political agendas.
But that’s exactly what it does. It’s preachy and uninteresting
>Vietnam was hell and here's multiple perspectives of the war and the effects on them
Yeah so preachy wow
You're actually braindead
Pretty much all movies suck.
Why do you hate this movie?
not enough homosexualists and black people
see
But also, for me the plot is very nonsensical. the trailer kinda implies it’s going to be kino with overabundance of action scenes, and in reality they all happen like 20 minutes into the movie. It’s too long too, but tbf i watched the directors cut
The director's cut is really bad, original cut is much better.
Should I give it another chance then
Yea definitely, they're very different, the original cut works so much better and all of the unnecessary bullshit is cut out.
I still hate how they blue balled us throughout the movie in terms of Marlons character and then he practically just shows up and dies offscreen
By the 70s, Brando wasn't a lead actor as much, more like a supporting actor with a Lead actor salary.
Then they should’ve cast a competent actor. Not some fat grandpa
Brando's the best screen actor ever lmao
Yeh, didn't realize Coppola intended on changing it before the set issues.
Shut up boomer. Name one good movie he’s in that isn’t godfather.
everybody dead
>Name one good movie he’s in that isn’t godfather
Apocalypse Now lmao. But if you say I'm cheating, Brando has played in many classics such as Streetcar named desire, the wild ones, julius caesar, on the waterfront, one eyed jacks, Mutiny on the bounty, last tango in paris, Guys and Dols... Brando's been involved in many movies. And even in the bad ones, he's still a great watch.
Great now name movies real people know and not just boomerslop
Lmao, real people know and love those movies.
They're suffering consequences of poor choices and ego, and they realize they need each other more than they had previously believed, so they got back together as a makekit family. Juliane Moore's redeeming quality was her motherliness and the way she treated some of the younger people like children. Dirk Diggler's mom was deeply apeshit and the movie should've included one more scene of her being abusive, he's also an idiot remember. It's all opinion, but it felt comfortably formulaic in the right ways but that's just me. The screenplay rocks and Hollywood was excited about it, there's a reason they decided to give PTA the chance at such a young age.
>"kino"
>mad it isn't an action flick
>Nam movie
>2 hours of some chuds in a boat doing nothing
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOO
They constantly move from one experience to the next though. The entire bridge sequence is a fricking masterpiece
The pseudos have arrived. Stop defending movies like these that are supposed to be war movies and end up being boring and overdramatic.
Its a war movie in the sense that its about war, set during a war but not really about that specific one.
The boat journey is a lot like a journey throughout history, there are constant references like the helicopter squad being basically 19th century cavalry the plantation as a symbol for colonialism, the bridge being basically a medival siege situation etc. Kurz compound ends up being some primordial, tribal environment like you imagine stone age people lived.
Yea yea yea. It’s still not a good movie
>my war movie has to have explosions and gunfire in it
The Deer Hunter is a classic case of nuCinemaphile getting filtered by a genuinely well acted and shot film with character development. Better character writing than the vast majority of war films. But it's 3 hours and dialogue oriented so capesloppers can't handle it.
Lol you are mad because you wanted an action flick? And no the movie clearly tells us something about human history and war but yes it doesn't spell it out.
Most of Cinemaphile has probably never seen Apocalypse Now, anon. Whether you think it's good or not.
come on, give people the benefit of the doubt
Naw I think Licorice Pizza is his worst, although I've never seen Hard Eight.
>It's a movie that's constantly implying that it has something to say about an overabundance of things without ever actually committing to it.
I can understand that criticism, it touches on the nature of war and why people wage war and what is necessary to make a successful one, the true requirements of war, what drives people to actually achieve goals vs just drifting through life. Also included is the stubbornness of colonialism and the sheer absurdity of transplanting a civilization on top of another (French Plantation Scene, which also criticizes war and the purpose of it).
>the plot
The plot is a combination of multiple different sources into a somewhat original piece of work. The original script by John Millius was an adaption of the Joseph Conrad book Heart of Darkness, but transported to Vietnam. It also takes influence from the Odyssey in the way it's a boat trip adventure where there's a set destination. That attributes to the aimless feeling. Coppola intended the movie to have a battle for the ending, with Brando leading troops and Sheen helping. The budget or filming schedule didn't allow it and we got the ending we got instead. This movie's making of is a movie in its own right. I loved the setpieces like the helicopter attack, the playmates, the do lung bridge, the boat attack with the death scene while the tape plays, along with all the scenes with Brando and Dennis Hopper. It's a psychedelic war film with a high budget and high expertise working at the height of their powers. Brando's improvisation and laziness and he still creates an eerie, otherworldly type leader. Such a brilliant movie, give the Final Cut a go, with Remux 2160p.
>The budget or filming schedule didn't allow it and we got the ending we got instead
I always thought the ending was changed because Brando had gained too much weight and was too fricking fat to do anything they had planned.
yeh, he was getting paid like a million a week and didn't prepare for the role at all and was a fat piece of shit diva queen and just fricking wings it and knocks it out of the park
>Typical Brando homosexualry
Oh now i get it.
>Coppola intended the movie to have a battle for the ending, with Brando leading troops and Sheen helping.
Coppola never intended that. That was the ending John Millius wrote, but Coppola never liked it and was always going to change it, he just really struggled to come up with something to change it too.
It's reddit the movie
punch drunk love, its pta's worst film along with that one with the haim girl
Literally every capeshit movie
terminator 2. making arnie the good terminator was just awful and undermines the first one
bait
the arnie terminator retroactively lost a lot of his scary aura after watching t2
How tf does it undermine the first movie? I like T1 more as any patrician would but Arnold being the good guy was still pretty genius.
Also it hardly undermines it when it’s explained they programmed him. Just emphasised he’s a relentless unthinking machine
>Arnold being the good guy was still pretty genius
it was a pure business decision because arnie had become a superstar and wasnt supposed to be the bad guy. artistically, it made the machines less threatening
it is precedence that the machines can be turned against themselves, automatically making them less scary. why would you have to "bargain" or "reason" with them instead of trying to reprogram them?
t2 is genuinely horrible. R rated thriller/horror turned into a pg action movie with quips
It's shit.
A classic rags to riches story with pr0n, all the characters are loveably flawed.
>loveably
They were fricking morons
Credit where credit is due for portraying them honestly but like
IDK I felt like dirk was a frick up moron. Julianne moore, a frickup moron. PSH, absolute moron. Don Cheadle was a moron but at least he had clear vulnerabilities.
The only time I laughed in the entire movie was when William H Macy was arguing with the cinematographer or whatever.
They were all frick up morons, that's part of the charm. Even Burt Reynolds was an idiot with him thinking his movies were these artistic masterpieces when there were obvious and easily fixable mistakes in the movie as seen in that film editing scene. The whole movie works as a drama because you see their flaws and you see how their flaws lead to flawed interactions which leads to the aforementioned drama. 2 and a half hours just flys by because the movie finds itself so packed with great writing and direction.
it does NOT just fly by
Ironically, it does what Burt Reynolds aimed to avoid:
It shoots its wad in the first hour and then after it just ambles and I've lost interest. No amount of shoehorned period music can make up for the lack of plot in the secondhalf. The plot that DOES exist - who cares? to quote the simpsons "It's just a bunch of stuff that happened."
and the thing is with flawed characters is that they should really have redeeming qualities
What was julianne moores redeeming quality? She was nice sometimes?? I wanted to like her character and pity her, but I couldn't. I wanted to like dirk digglar, I did in his first 20 minutes but why should I feel bad for the kid? because he has a huge hog and lucked into a lucrative albeit predatory career? WHO CARES
The direction and camerawork was fantastic I'll grant it that. And I really loved the sequence during the first sex "scene" where it cuts to the images of film running through camera machinery. There were a few short bits that I enjoyed. But the film wasn't funny, it felt like it was trying too hard to be unpredictable and surprising, and overall I just felt the screenplay was weak. It's a movie that attempts to convince you it's iconic by having pulpy scenes. But we've seen that. By better filmmakers. In stories with ingenuity and actual creativity.
It felt like derivative smut that only works if it tricks you into feeling cool for watching it. I didn't. I felt dirty.
The only good thing I remember about this movie was jacking off to Julianne Moore.
I don't know if tv likes it but i loathe The Deer Hunter
QRD as to why? I’ve considered watching it but everyone in here complains about a wedding scene.
It's not a scene it's most of the movie and it's shot to basically make the viewer experience a wedding.
You ever been to one? Weddings are boring unless you are drunk.
The hell? Isn’t it a nam movie kek
It barely features Vietnam, its a character piece about a bunch of friends and how the war changed the trajectory of their life or something, it has that one very iconic scene where they are forced ro play russian roulette and the rest is dreadfully boring.
Duality of Cinemaphile
He’s lying the wedding is like half an hour, if that, and it’s great. We have people in this thread unironically complaining that movies don’t have enough explosions in them.
Like i said, it failed to make me give a frick about those characters.
Well you can’t account for shit taste. It’s great cinema.
So then get drunk while watching The Deer Hunter.
None likes that one aside from the one iconic scene.
I mean I think I would like it if the characters were more fleshed out but all we get is them fricking around on a wedding and then we are supposed to react to the tonal whiplash with Vietnam but I just didn't care.
>Deer Hunter
Isn't it about mental illness from war trauma, PTSD.#Been a long time since I watched it but like rambo being about PTSD the main char de niro cannot fit back into society and be normal after the horrors he had experienced in the war as a PoW.
When I watched it that was what i took from it, but it has been a very long time since I seen it.
Slow movie interlaced with nam flashbacks.
Platoon > FMJ > Apocalypse Now > Deer Hunter
I would probably say the same but first half of FMJ is better than platoon.
Still platoon is KINO as frick though.
Also hamburger hill is good, though not on the league of those 4
Meh. Picrel is more interesting than all of FMJ characters combined.
NTA but Barnes is just edgy literally me fodder. Hes there to look evil and menacing. Hes cool but not all that interesting.
Joker isn’t any better
There are only so many archetypes in a war movie you can have as a main character. You either get reluctant soldier or guy which joined to serve his country and such. PVT Pyle is a more interesting character than Barnes or Joker.
Do you just see yourself in him because you’re fat?
I don't think interesting means "oh my god hes me!!" anon
Bait. He’s one of the most kino characters in cinema history. You missed the entire point of his character if you just think he’s “evil and menacing”
>bait
No.
>most kino characters in history
Cool to look at? yeah I agree but not some deep character or something
>hes evil and menacing
I said hes there to LOOK evil and menacing and be the counter to frankly handsome Elias. Its for the audience to decide if he is evil or not. Just by looking at him you know hes supposed to be the antagonist of the story and you can tell his character archetype.
Honestly it sounds like you're paying more attention to his facial scars than his actual character. If you’ve only watched Platoon once, rewatch it. There’s a lot you miss as a first time viewer.
Barnes did nothing wrong. That alone makes him an interesting character because he’s a misunderstood guy who is the reason he is because of the war. Arguably he looks better than Elias, too.
>Platoon> FMJ and Apocalypse Now
What’s supposed to go in front of platoon?
the real Vietnam
And where would you rank deer hunter
not him but I turned that crap off. was boring watching bums drink in a bar and get married.
theres people on this board who think its the superior vietnam movie
it's odd because there is no way in hell paratroopers would flop out of a chopper and find their special forces friend, my girlfriend (she was a marine) laughed at it.
>girlfriend
>marine
anon…
Deer Hunter sucks. Takes like 45min to get to the Vietnam part. The only cool parts are the torture scenes.
Movie might have been cool in the 70s but the pacing and plot suck now days. and now Im not an ADHD zoomer homosexual
>Movies Cinemaphile loves
Does such a thing exist?
same
BR2049
Marks when zoomers fully invaded this site.
I generally dislike BR and I disliked BR2049 when I watched it first too but i gave it another try, maybe twice and now I think it is an amazing movie, but it falls of dramatically as soon as harrison ford is shoved in there for member berries.
It really would have been a god tier movie without him in it.
I recently watched BR 2049 the anime and the prequels to 2049 and I still dislike the original BR, its boring.
Not a movie but band of brothers. Kinda sucks, honestly. Haven't ever seen it before... can't put my finger on why I don't like it, but it's not good.
First time watching this, I watched the Redux cut and I was so enthralled by it that I had to stop between every 30 minutes just because of "heavy" it was. Not because of the plot but because of how focused I was
I literally enjoyed every scene
I bought a dvd of it and it was broken and i couldnt watch like 20 minutes of it.
Still one of the most memorable movies i ever saw.
I have a 3'x5' hi-res photo of picrelated in my foyer.
What does this say about me, Cinemaphile?
Boomers age like shit
He’s not a boomer homie
only women have foyers
This PoS
IT is a boring shitty slow burning gay love story with the title itself ruining the fricking story.
I cannot see why anyone would ever want to watch this past the first like 20 mins after they do the train heist.
>IT is a boring shitty slow burning gay love story with the title itself ruining the fricking story.
You have to be over the age of 18 to post on this site
Ive never come across a Sam Hyde fan that wasn't either underage themselves or a dysgenic manchild
chris nolan slop
Cinemaphile will jerk off furiously to his batman slop but it fricking blows
>Mirror
>In Bruges
>The hongkong The Departed
>Suspiria
>I saw the devil
what’s wrong with the departed moron
Scorsese remake better. Hong Kong one boring
No Scorsese remake is better than the original
Who on Cinemaphile likes Mirror?
>filtered by apoc now
kek this board sucks
>filtered by deer hunter
kek this board sucks
>filtered by jesse james
kek this board sucks
>infernal affairs
no one on this board watched that
>I Saw The Devil
What's your beef with that one?
t. fried smoothbrain thread
that’s not what t. means, zoomie
I didn't like Eyes Wide Shut.
Ridiculous. Were your eyes wide shut?
I thought it was alright. I mean the ritual scene was fricking kino but everything before and after that just sort of happens, everything felt pointless tbh.
Blad Rrunner
Paths of Glory
Mishima
Army of Shadows
The Night of the Hunter
Festen
Manhunter
Don't Look Now
Children of Men.. and I don't even know why..
What? Everybody dislikes children of men on this board. They think it's woke or whatever but never talk about the technical side which is absolutely phenomenal
Goodfellas.
3 good scenes in an absolutely fricking mess of bad pacing, bad acting, and bad direction
I hate lord of the rings movies because I'm an unabashed bookgay and also because they opened Pandora's box to a pile of SHIT
this is the funniest film of all time and if you don't think so you're either a brainlet or have no sense of humor
>funniest film of all time
sorry soiboi it's reddit
Apocalypse Now is good until we meet Kurtz
>12 angry men
Filmed theater and proto social justice propaganda.
>2049
BR for the troonygelion audience, inferior in every single way.
>Dark knight rises
Only good for the plane scene memes, otherwise it's still capeshit.
>Love exposure
Live action anime for delusional weebs, only good if you're under 18.
It insists upon itself
OP here, forgot to say im trans btw
T. reddit
Only the 'literally me' gays like 2049. It's just a unnecessary sequel to a perfect movie. They shot it on digital which kinda kills the point of making a Blade Runner movie.
impressive the only true thing you posted is that it was shot on digital
Does Cinemaphile love The Wolf of Wall Street?
Because I hate it.
It’s my favorite type of movie the rise and fall casino aviator goodfellas all have the same plot
I like Scorsese, but this stunk.
Yup, Scorsese went full sloppy-mode at around midways into Cape Fear. He only managed to make one other kino after 1991 Bringing Out the Dead
everything else he did feels just like a money grab, out of ideas, copying stuff
That said, The Departed isn't bad, it's a solid movie, a 6.5 or 7 out 10, but not better than the original, it gets dragged down by the stars whom never really acts more than themselves in a way. When Marc Walhberg is the best actor then your movie better have a comedic tone to it
Drive
The only reason people give a frick about that movie is because of the music and Ryan Gosling memes, the actual movie is really boring.
Truth. I watched it because literally me gays kept shilling for it. It’s pretty overrated and not memorable at all besides the elevator scene.
Terminator 2 and Aliens. I'm not even baiting, I jist don't like them. The action and quips are gay. I prefer Alien and Terminator.
>HEAT
Watched it for the first time recently. Heist movies and bank robber movies are literally my favorite genre but this movie was just boring. Beginning was good I guess. But the “famous shootout” scene that supposedly helped train police and soldiers or whatever on how to scoot and shoot was just boring. And all the “plot” and “romance” in between was dry and meaningless. If it didn’t have Pachino and Niro in it, nobody would have cared about it.
The action parts are great everything else stinks you’re not alone many feel this way
Drive, cuck fetish
LOTR is boring friends is a gen x woman’s show
>Vertigo
So fricking boring it's unreal, one of the most tedious movies I've ever seen
idk if Cinemaphile likes it but generally the boys seem to rank this in the top1000 and I dont see it. Its just an action movie with nothing profound going on.
>but it's realistic!
One man kills a 20 or whatever. Yeah, right! No difference between this and Commando or Rambo II.
>but the main hero isn't ripped
Bruce Willis was voted as one of the most attractive men in People's Magazine in the 90s
>but... but action!
yeah. action done right can be good, take Matrix for instance, they added philosophical depth
>but.. but.. christmas
ha! I knew it. so what if its a holiday movie. Is that really the only reason to love a movie?
>Its just an action movie with nothing profound going on.
Why are you expecting something "profound" in an action movie?
shouldn't every movie strive to be great and profound? isn't that the point of art?
Ignore the apocnowcels. they’re delusional
I'm ignoring you right now
>still replies
no, I'm not them, I'm transphobic, reply or else.... else what?
Mean Girls
didn't find the chicks THAT hot. sure, I woudn't turn them down, I guess, tho Cinemaphile acts like those white hoes can compete with my queens, pic related, no way I say, no way, nah-ah, big no-no
This entire thread is very telling for why I see a lot of anons here jump to defend the most awful shit in media.