Sacre Bleu, where is me mama
Absolutely despicable in context and just a total projection of his mommy issues
No fricking way. I literally just watched this episode yesterday, and it was my breaking point for Tony. First time I though "Wow, what a genuine piece of shit."
There is the context that his life of a professional criminal necessitates stuff like that to earn a living and he clearly has his own "we're soldiers" justification. That being, everyone involved with that life knows the risk and accepts them freely (which is sort of proven true in the series)
Here, his sister finally shows signs of actually bettering herself and controlling her anger and Tony resorts to crab in bucket mentality to ruin it for her. Even worse, hes the one who told her to go to anger management courses in a moment of anger at her and when she finally does, he cant even take solace in the fact that he helped his sister get better. Hes a spiteful, evil, rotten person just like his mother.
Idiots, nobody forced him to be a gangster that murders, extorts, and preys on innocents.
You mentally weak cucks probably forgive parking inspectors because “they’re just doing their job”
By that point the audience is deceived into believing his Freudian excuse and justifications, much like Melfi is. This is the first scene where we really get to see what a petty piece of shit he is, he takes up the mantle of Livia.
Always makes me laugh that that goofy moron was right when he told Melfi she's naive and there's no moral relativism just good and evil and she was just like noolo u don't get it, I'm a doctor
All women. Thats why psychology is full of women. They see men as their projects which can be molded into their ideal goyslave. Desperate to understand but empathy is completely beyond them. Its good that the show discusses the fact that most women in that position develop a sexual attraction to their patient
That's the frickin exact opposite of what happened. She had too much empathy and thought Tony was hiding some redeemable inner core instead of realizing he's a narcissistic psychopath who's "moments of clarity" are nothing more than him justifying his own actions to himself, always
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Her therapist tells her that she clearly finds him thrilling and she doesn't respond because this is the truth.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah but the thrill is in the "i can save him" which is empathy driven
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>empathy driven
Ego driven. Don't tell me you believe all that garbage women spout about empathy.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yea of course, only men can be empathetic as we all know
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, and women know it too
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Reads like your average LULZ post
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lmao you don't understand women at all. The I can save him feeling is wanting to be the only thing that can make him happy. When women are in love they want to swallow men whole and absorb them. Sometimes they will literally say this.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, seething anons understand women perfectly
>empathy driven
Ego driven. Don't tell me you believe all that garbage women spout about empathy.
All misdirected empathy is ego driven, no shit, but it's still empathy
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but it's still empathy
Towards whom? Themselves? So if a woman pushes me in front of traffic and I get hit by a bus and die and she claims she was just being empathic, it's still inherently empathy even though it's just misdirected? You know how dumb that sounds?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
When the frick has a woman ever pushed you in front of traffic
What the frick are you talking about man
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
"I can save him" is pure ego. It's not about him or his problems, it's about her taming the beast.
Him doing this was just a supreme act of pettiness. He couldn’t stand the idea of somebody improving themselves because he can’t improve himself
It’s the same reason he shits on Christopher when he gets sober until he becomes a junkie again, then fricking kills him, then has the gall to explain to people how it’s for the best because muh baby seat
There is the context that his life of a professional criminal necessitates stuff like that to earn a living and he clearly has his own "we're soldiers" justification. That being, everyone involved with that life knows the risk and accepts them freely (which is sort of proven true in the series)
Here, his sister finally shows signs of actually bettering herself and controlling her anger and Tony resorts to crab in bucket mentality to ruin it for her. Even worse, hes the one who told her to go to anger management courses in a moment of anger at her and when she finally does, he cant even take solace in the fact that he helped his sister get better. Hes a spiteful, evil, rotten person just like his mother.
It’s weird seeing people defend it here when it’s the exact same shit blacks do that people rightfully shit on. Attacking those who try to better themselves
>That being, everyone involved with that life knows the risk and accepts them freely
I mean lots of people that aren't mafiosos get murdered or fricked over in the show. Remember the random waiter that Paulie and Chrissy kill?
Tony couldn’t stand anyone being happier than him. He did the same to Christopher, he was upset Chrissy was sober and doing good away from him so he tried to belittle him
Am I the only one who was pissed off that season 2 had all that lead up about pussy only for it to come to a head because a fish spoke to Tony in a dream and he immediately acted on it? Right after he spent 3 episodes having a mental breakdown over the prospect of pussy being a rat in season 1?
tony knew all along, that's why he was in denial so badly and why he was so quick to have jimmy killed. the fever dream is just his brain coming to terms with it and demanding he find proof (which he does)
>career criminal >has murdered several people >"trolling his c**t sister is where he becomes truly irredeemable"
i'm guessing you need to have fewer braincells than fingers to have this perspective
its not their fault, americans are subjected to israeli grey morality on a regular basis, they are practically brainwashed into believing theres no such thing as true good or evil, just layers of grey. When an american show isnt trying to shove race mixing or LGBT issues down your throat, its trying to convience you that every bad person has a legitimate justification for their actions and that you should empathize with them
Oh shut the frick up the last thing that putrid fat sack of shit cares about is self-improvement
She saw Bobby as a situation she could latch herself onto and drain as much life from as she could, she's a fricking parasitic leech you can make an argument that Janice is the worst person on that show
Have you considered that everything you're saying can be true and it can also be true that Tony's a maniacal narcissistic psycho who didn't give a shit about that and was just pissed that she was making her own moves in life
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I tend to see things for what they are, not what I them to be.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well the way they are is that they're all pieces of shit in their own way. That's the show
>I put Ma and all her warped shit behind me >Not that I can any credit for it!
She's just going to be another Livia. She even makes a "joke" about not letting Bobby's daughter leave which even Tony finds questionable.
you can call Tony a piece of shit who can't see anyone be happy. or you can see it for what it is. Janice is just putting on a charade and Tony knows it. he basically just unmasked her to prove himself right. I'm taking Tony's side on this one
>How about the fact that I hate my son? I come home, he's in his frickin' underwear wasting his time in some chit-chat room, going back and forth with some other frickin' jerk off!
Tony was a piece of shit here but he did have a point
Janice was bragging how she's improving and whatnot yet Tony shuts her down with a few sentences, showing that she's the same old Janice and will never change when things don't go her way
I won't take all that they hand me down
And make out a smile though I wear a frown
And I'm not gonna take it all lying down
'Cause once I get started I go to town
There is no show that better matches music than The Sopranos. Truly one of a kind.
plebs think tony was wrong in here vut in reality he just exposed phonyness of janice because he knew her since he was a kid. every month she had this new thing where she either found jesus and finally was saved or did psychedelics or this anger management made her new good person, when she didn't even care about only thing that should matter for a mother which is her own child. janice was a fake piece of shit and even though tony did it roughly and generally he is also a piece of shit he saw right through her and exposed her bullshit.
Tony is a complete DICK in season 6, like how he treats Paulie when they're on the lam in Florida. Sometimes it's hard to watch. He says some funny shit though >Remember When is the lowest form of conversation
Which scene is this?
sacre bleu where his me mama
No fricking way. I literally just watched this episode yesterday, and it was my breaking point for Tony. First time I though "Wow, what a genuine piece of shit."
You sound like a gay.
IM NOT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE
Sacre Bleu, where is me mama
Absolutely despicable in context and just a total projection of his mommy issues
the scene where Tony digs up his mom and bangs her
I wonder where Harpo's posting his Sunday thread
It wasn’t the extortion, murder, and running a criminal gang to prey on innocents that did it?
he's a soldier
That comes with his way of life. Does he have to be the world's biggest c**t for no reason? No. Hence the context.
Idiots, nobody forced him to be a gangster that murders, extorts, and preys on innocents.
You mentally weak cucks probably forgive parking inspectors because “they’re just doing their job”
context, anon
By that point the audience is deceived into believing his Freudian excuse and justifications, much like Melfi is. This is the first scene where we really get to see what a petty piece of shit he is, he takes up the mantle of Livia.
Always makes me laugh that that goofy moron was right when he told Melfi she's naive and there's no moral relativism just good and evil and she was just like noolo u don't get it, I'm a doctor
"I can fix him" personified
All women. Thats why psychology is full of women. They see men as their projects which can be molded into their ideal goyslave. Desperate to understand but empathy is completely beyond them. Its good that the show discusses the fact that most women in that position develop a sexual attraction to their patient
Yea, i know mine did
That's the frickin exact opposite of what happened. She had too much empathy and thought Tony was hiding some redeemable inner core instead of realizing he's a narcissistic psychopath who's "moments of clarity" are nothing more than him justifying his own actions to himself, always
Her therapist tells her that she clearly finds him thrilling and she doesn't respond because this is the truth.
Yeah but the thrill is in the "i can save him" which is empathy driven
>empathy driven
Ego driven. Don't tell me you believe all that garbage women spout about empathy.
Yea of course, only men can be empathetic as we all know
Yes, and women know it too
Reads like your average LULZ post
Lmao you don't understand women at all. The I can save him feeling is wanting to be the only thing that can make him happy. When women are in love they want to swallow men whole and absorb them. Sometimes they will literally say this.
Yeah, seething anons understand women perfectly
All misdirected empathy is ego driven, no shit, but it's still empathy
>but it's still empathy
Towards whom? Themselves? So if a woman pushes me in front of traffic and I get hit by a bus and die and she claims she was just being empathic, it's still inherently empathy even though it's just misdirected? You know how dumb that sounds?
When the frick has a woman ever pushed you in front of traffic
What the frick are you talking about man
"I can save him" is pure ego. It's not about him or his problems, it's about her taming the beast.
Those gained him direct benefit
Him doing this was just a supreme act of pettiness. He couldn’t stand the idea of somebody improving themselves because he can’t improve himself
It’s the same reason he shits on Christopher when he gets sober until he becomes a junkie again, then fricking kills him, then has the gall to explain to people how it’s for the best because muh baby seat
t. moron
There is the context that his life of a professional criminal necessitates stuff like that to earn a living and he clearly has his own "we're soldiers" justification. That being, everyone involved with that life knows the risk and accepts them freely (which is sort of proven true in the series)
Here, his sister finally shows signs of actually bettering herself and controlling her anger and Tony resorts to crab in bucket mentality to ruin it for her. Even worse, hes the one who told her to go to anger management courses in a moment of anger at her and when she finally does, he cant even take solace in the fact that he helped his sister get better. Hes a spiteful, evil, rotten person just like his mother.
It’s weird seeing people defend it here when it’s the exact same shit blacks do that people rightfully shit on. Attacking those who try to better themselves
>implying
>That being, everyone involved with that life knows the risk and accepts them freely
I mean lots of people that aren't mafiosos get murdered or fricked over in the show. Remember the random waiter that Paulie and Chrissy kill?
He didn't deserve it but what fricking waiter comes out in the parking lot complaining about the tip? Especially from a fancy restaurant
He showed a lack of respect.
Tony couldn’t stand anyone being happier than him. He did the same to Christopher, he was upset Chrissy was sober and doing good away from him so he tried to belittle him
How do y'all support a mother who abandoned her child? Fricking nauseau
To be fair, Janice is a disgusting fat gross piece of shit
They all are. Its a miracle these fat dumb wops pulled off an organized crime ring as long as they did
the actress did a great job though, she was 100% believable
>anon youre the best, youre the best! youre my number 1 poster. you should be the OP of this thread
>sneed this… chuck that… that’s not part of it
True, but in that scene she's actually genuinely trying and succeeding to better herself and tony just cannot accept that
Am I the only one who was pissed off that season 2 had all that lead up about pussy only for it to come to a head because a fish spoke to Tony in a dream and he immediately acted on it? Right after he spent 3 episodes having a mental breakdown over the prospect of pussy being a rat in season 1?
tony knew all along, that's why he was in denial so badly and why he was so quick to have jimmy killed. the fever dream is just his brain coming to terms with it and demanding he find proof (which he does)
I hate Tony and Carmela more on every rewatch.
>career criminal
>has murdered several people
>"trolling his c**t sister is where he becomes truly irredeemable"
i'm guessing you need to have fewer braincells than fingers to have this perspective
its not their fault, americans are subjected to israeli grey morality on a regular basis, they are practically brainwashed into believing theres no such thing as true good or evil, just layers of grey. When an american show isnt trying to shove race mixing or LGBT issues down your throat, its trying to convience you that every bad person has a legitimate justification for their actions and that you should empathize with them
Meds, schizo.
You sound like a schizo but you're 100% right. I blame Scorsese.
>trolling
he couldn't stand seeing his own sister happy and wanted to drag her down to his level. it was pure spiteful hate
Janice is even more irredeemable than Tony
She's a worthless parasite
doesn't change what i said. she tried to become a better person and he hated her for it
Oh shut the frick up the last thing that putrid fat sack of shit cares about is self-improvement
She saw Bobby as a situation she could latch herself onto and drain as much life from as she could, she's a fricking parasitic leech you can make an argument that Janice is the worst person on that show
Have you considered that everything you're saying can be true and it can also be true that Tony's a maniacal narcissistic psycho who didn't give a shit about that and was just pissed that she was making her own moves in life
I tend to see things for what they are, not what I them to be.
Well the way they are is that they're all pieces of shit in their own way. That's the show
i *still* dont see how this changes anything about what i said
no, she redeems herself at the end when Bobby has been killed and she unselfishly takes charge of Bobbys kids
If that's your idea of redemption take a long look in the mirror
>redemption
when the frick did i say this? im the second post you quoted
>I put Ma and all her warped shit behind me
>Not that I can any credit for it!
She's just going to be another Livia. She even makes a "joke" about not letting Bobby's daughter leave which even Tony finds questionable.
he was just venting bro
It was just bantz
I love this show so much, there will be nothing like it again
It's called friendly banter
jerry's been cursed ever since
you can call Tony a piece of shit who can't see anyone be happy. or you can see it for what it is. Janice is just putting on a charade and Tony knows it. he basically just unmasked her to prove himself right. I'm taking Tony's side on this one
>Puts Paulie on the path to redemption
Full of grace
>How about the fact that I hate my son? I come home, he's in his frickin' underwear wasting his time in some chit-chat room, going back and forth with some other frickin' jerk off!
This was his way of expressing remorse that he doesn't spend enough time with AJ
The mopey pussy arc is the worst AJ arc
>Under the boardwalk, with your schlong in Janice's mouth
Tony was a piece of shit here but he did have a point
Janice was bragging how she's improving and whatnot yet Tony shuts her down with a few sentences, showing that she's the same old Janice and will never change when things don't go her way
Also one of the best outros in the show.
I won't take all that they hand me down
And make out a smile though I wear a frown
And I'm not gonna take it all lying down
'Cause once I get started I go to town
There is no show that better matches music than The Sopranos. Truly one of a kind.
plebs think tony was wrong in here vut in reality he just exposed phonyness of janice because he knew her since he was a kid. every month she had this new thing where she either found jesus and finally was saved or did psychedelics or this anger management made her new good person, when she didn't even care about only thing that should matter for a mother which is her own child. janice was a fake piece of shit and even though tony did it roughly and generally he is also a piece of shit he saw right through her and exposed her bullshit.
Tony did absolutely nothing wrong upon my latest rewatch
Tony is a complete DICK in season 6, like how he treats Paulie when they're on the lam in Florida. Sometimes it's hard to watch. He says some funny shit though
>Remember When is the lowest form of conversation
eren yeager
chapter 131 imo