Greg Duffell, a the director on Taz-Mania hated the show and thought it ruined Taz as a character. He mainly had a dislike for Taz's family and the other side characters.
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ITT: cartoonists who hated the show they worked on
Ah yes Taz really had so much character to work with
It still ruined him for other writers
How so it utilized Taz well and was probably the best thing the character was ever in
It ruined nothing, the character is still going strong as ever and if anything Taz-Mania is forgotten by most.
Still better than having Taz as Bugs Bunny's fricking pet dog, and I say this as someone who liked Loonedy Tunes Show for the most part.
How do you even do a 'pure' interesting Taz anyway? He's just a rabid drooling furious animal. Taz-Mania did the best anyone could to make a show out of him. It's not like Daffy, who can support a Duck Dodgers series out of him and you still could also have Robin Hood Daffy, Stupor Duck, etc, shows.
Wabbit of all things probably had a good idea with 'Theodore Taz' and having Taz conflicted with his bestial nature while trying to act 'civilized'. It's a take I could see working with Taz's family and background.
>How do you even do a 'pure' interesting Taz anyway?
Maybe like an anthology series? Each episode is him stumbling across some other Looney Tune and it's about seeing everyone else running from him.
>Elmer gearing up for a trophy hunt
>Sam evading Taz as he stalks through the jungle for pirate treasure
>Penelope chased by Taz chased by Pepe
>Marvin abducting Taz and then desperately trying to lure him into the airlock before the whole ship is destroyed
abducting Taz
They made an entire video game about this and it was the shit.
the way taz vored up living aliens scared the shit out of me
An Anthology Series or 'Theodore Taz' are the only ways you could make a 'pure' interesting Taz.
Fair enough if you're just spitballing, but they probably didn't have permission to use the whole Loony Tunes roster of characters for Tazmania. It was a Tazmanian Devil focused show and any other recognizable character would detract from that.
The show had Marvin, Sam sheepdog and Road Runned
abducting Taz and then desperately trying to lure him into the airlock before the whole ship is destroyed
an Alien spoof with Taz would be pure kino
Hiring some actual Australian voice actors to play bogans who have to deal with the massive destruction of Taz would be a good set up. Guns are extremely rare in Straya so they would have to resort to complicated Roadrunner type schemes to capture or kill Taz from episode to episode. Then you could add in some animal characters like a kangaroo, a koala, a wieneratiel, etc. to fill out the cast, and give a separate element in the animal kingdom that faces Taz on a different scale from the humans. Still all australians, and taz is just taz.
Anthology series of Taz eating different dishes across the world.
That's the point of the character. He's supposed to be one-dimensional.
It's weird if he's the only one who doesn't talk. Makes him seem like a sad moron.
he is a moron, it's only sad because the show puts him in domestic situations instead of some random wilderness antagonizing Bugs or whatever
Still, it's rather cringe in hindsight. You know there are people who are offended by everything, but they'd have a point in this one.
>ruined the characters
animators don't cre about "ruining" characters you spastic.
he thought the series was shitty pop culture references instead of relatively-unaging slapstick comedy
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Actually the opposite. They gave him too much character to be Actually workable.
A good Taz series should be about both him and Marvin getting lost in time and how every episode is about them being sent to a different time era, where Marvin's attempts to return to their corrert era and Taz's general frickery end up shaping up Earth and Mars' history.
The fall of Istambul? That was Taz's fault.
The Black Death plague? That was Marvin's failed attempt to get rid of Taz.
>An episode where Marvin is trying to stop Taz from fighting Tiktaalik
Absolute Kino
The final episode is how afer a long and confusing set of time and space travel jumps, Marvin regains control over the time traveling device and jumps to the past to set a chain reaction intended to permanently destroy the earth's ecosystem and turn it into a barren planet as a final frick you to Taz and the planet that created such a moron.
Once Marvin has permanently destroyed what used to be a green and fertile planet full of life, he proudly returns to present Earth to see it's scorched corpse, only to find out that Earth looks the same as before and the planet he actually destroyed and turned into a red desert was Mars.
Ooops.
That sounds extremely fun
No, that's pretty stupid. Why didn't Marvin just kill the Demon and then say it was a hunting accident?
>Stupid zoomer doesnt understand how Marvin the Martian's character works- he always must do everything the most contrived and complicated way possible, thus explaining why he always fails at his tasks and why even the most moronic antagonists can foil his plans.
That's Coyote
The fricking intro theme was like 3 minutes of just introducing characters, most of which they never used
Surprisingly catchy tho
Getting the easy one first:
Sugar and Muto
Daron Nefcy has a gripe with Star Vs The Forces Of Evil S1 you can see it on the removal of Alfonso and Ferguson.
Dana Terrace dosn't like S1A of The Owl House
>Dana Terrace dosn't like S1A of The Owl House
Who does? Those episodes were dogshit
3B will be dogshit in exciting new ways.
My experience was first episodes good, next 10 bad, last 5 good again. The middle 10 was so bad I just didn’t finish til months later. I hate the school shit
Same. The start setvup a lot od the world, but the middle of the season was a slog to go through.
>> Daron Nefcy has a gripe with Star Vs The Forces Of Evil S1 you can see it on the removal of Alfonso and Ferguson.
Why it was the second best season of the series. Besides Alfonso and Ferguson could have been truly insufferable.
The fat one is lots of fun in "Pixietopia", the best episode of the series in a one-off comedy mode. Given what a trainwreck it turned into I wish the show had been made of episodes like that one instead.
The reason is that Alfonso and Ferguson were added onto the show by the executives at Disney TVA. In typical kid’s cartoon executive behavior, they felt that Marco needed some “friends” and so they were added. Im sure 90% of cartoon friend sidekicks are created this way.
>Daron Nefcy has a gripe with Star Vs The Forces Of Evil S1 you can see it on the removal of Alfonso and Ferguson.
Huh?
I dunno if it proves anything but its true that Alfonso and Ferguson only exist because the network told her that it was weird that Marco had no male friends; once the show gained traction she just ignored them for the rest of the show.
>both made the worst DTVA shows of the past 5 years
Almost like if you frick up your initial episodes your show is doomed
>Daron Nefcy hated season 1
Literally where did you get that info? Assumptions are great and all, but you know what they say: "to assume is to make an ass out of you and me."
It's kinda impossible to make a show about Taz only, so they decided to create a shit ton of literally who characters: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4d0Ld53Fp0Y
I hate that hearing this sounds familiar so I definitely watched it as a kid despite not remembering anything at all about it. Also funny you can definitely tell this was before the porygon incident.
geez this really needs an epilepsy warning.
Stop having seizures first you lil shit
I was going to say it was WB trying to make their own version of Goof Troop but it looks like Taz-Mania came first. Anyway I like both shows and Goof Troop is remembered fondly despite doing the same thing, so I wouldn't say it's a bad concept
I remember I liked it.
Literally the Patrick Star show of the 90s
Do they ever explain why they're all wearing clothes except him?
The international versions changed the intro to get rid of the flashing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg1rRXDZjAk
>Looney Tunes once had enough pull as a brand that Taz was able to headline his own show
Warner Bros. was a completely different beast back then.
They had enough pull as a brand that cartoons from the 40s were still getting regular showing on Nickelodeon, and it was a hit0vxsr2
They still do tbh. Assign the right staff and you've got it made.
Emphasis on The Right Staff which we haven't had since Duck Dodgers or LTS depending on your tastes
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Christ you could make a hundred Duck Dodgers episodes. I would love for it to come back. Space comedy adventure never gets old. Just have Daffy visit all sorts of strange new worlds
I also wish they could have made more Plastic Man episodes
Do an episode serving as a tribute to Joe Alaskey
You don't like Looney Tunes Cartoons?
The other anon probably doesn't like it. Is this a good time to say that all the 90 episodes of LTC are from the initial season order?
First anon here. There's a few select ones that I liked, and I think they opened with one of, if not The strongest (the Curse of the Monkeybird). But so much of it feels restricted by the past instead of inspired by it. There's also an overreliance on unnecessary dialogue (and not too witty at that; Bugs is hit the hardest by this, but it's so criminal not to find a single quotable line in a Foggy cartoon). There's also a penchant for overtly predictable formulas, even for characters that rarely star solo and should be fair game to explore something different with (Marvin, Taz, Petunia, Yosemite Sam, etc). Even the animation, ostensibly the selling point, is affected by sitcom camera style angles that give these the feeling of bottle episodes. The characters just stand there like vaudeville comedians for so many of these...In calling attention to how fluid the animation can get now and then, they only reinforce how transparently limited by budget it is the rest of the time.
It's not All bad and I've gotten my chuckles through the run, but it's just nowhere near as inspired in its ideas, nor as free flowing in its visuals, as the successor to the classics it claims itself to be.
Besides the Bendy episode Craig McCracken & Lauren Faust don't like the 11 minute episodes of Foster's Home Of Imaginary Friends
I honestly think they hate the Bendy episode because autists online won't stop bugging them about said episode. Seriously, why are they so obsessed with that?
Unironic autism. The bad guy didn't get punished so they can't sleep at night.
Who cares that much about Taz though? He had as much of a character as a tornado, and the show itself is self-contained, it manages to hurt no-one who doesn't care for it, while it pleases those who want it.
I don't know much about Greg Duffell, but at least he seems respectful about the whole situation, even though he disliked it.
Axl Gator appeared in Duck Dodgers, so they still remember it at least.
I'm pretty sure anyone who worked during the dark age of animation hated their job. That's pretty much how we got the Renaissance.
>Renaissance
Fricking have a nice day
The Renaissance WAS the Dark Ages
A complete fricking israeli joke
Disney was never the same again after israelites sucked the soul out of the company
Take your meds
Paul Dini and Bruce Tim hate He-Man, which is a shame because Dini was one of the best writers on the show, and his episodes really helped make it better than the average Saturday morning cartoon.
They hated working on Superman too. Maybe hate is a word too strong but the show was money for them while BTAS was a passion project. And who knows, both work with WB/DC many years after STAS even until the 10s so they could be diplomatic instead of downright admiting they hated working on STAS.
They didn't know where to go with him, and ended up creating one of the best character arcs with Superman involving Darkseid (kept within STAS proper, and not including JLU). Is that what can be considered professionalism?
JLU was mainly Batman and friends. Timm and Dini went back to their comfort zone
Why did terry became black in the far future?
They kinda ruined Batman for me. TNBA turned him in a fricking butthole with no redeeming qualities and it’s a really terrible show with a few standout episodes, but more misses than hits. Superman TAS was unbelievably better than TNBA , it was obvious they were putting their A-game on that instead. Then JL/JLU is the same unlikeable jerk Batman from TNBA and even worse. A far cry from the early BTAS days. I don’t even recognize him as the same character.
>TNBA turned him in a fricking butthole
He's jaded and bitter that that point. He's been doing the vigilante life for years at that point and went through hell in BTAS. None of the super villains are reforming, those that he cares about like Catwoman and Robin/Nightwing don't want to be buddies anymore, and Gotham just decays further despite his efforts. Beyond cranks all this up to eleven.
You know that's point right? TNBA sets up why Bruce ends up alone in the future
You can still do that by showing a later falling out, not him being a douche for 3 shows.
Agreed with TNBA, JLA, and JLU. I think Beyond (besides Epilogue) brought him back around, but I hated him in those shows.
He can be bitter and not an insufferable dickhead Mary Sue, those don’t need to go together. The Nightwing split-up episode was Bruce inexcusably being a piece of shit.
What is this from? Also they specifically say they thought STAS was a good show. He’s just more of a challenge to write than Batman and that’s not really a controversial opinion. From the comics themselves to movies, shows, and vidya Superman has had as many fails as wins if not moreso.
Modern masters: Bruce timm
What is this from?
The highlighted section doesn't really imply he dislikes working on Superman. It's objectively harder to make Superman appealing than it is with Batman and it has been the case since the 70s.
I love cartoon superman with all my heart but I get where Tim is coming from. Superman is just, well, a good guy. His biggest weakness, kryptonite, is an external element and has nothing to do with his personality. I still really like that time superman struggled to accept he cannot save his adopted father from old age
Who cares?
Why couldn't they just do some 40s Fleischer style Superman cartoons.
Frick "writing".
This! Writing is stupid for a cartoon.
That would be hard to fit for a 22 minute cartoon. They didn't even do a bad job with the writing.
>Timm can't self insert as Superman so he hate it
Well duh
He should have self-inserted and had Supes plow Livewire.
What episodes did they work on?
Watch. You're going to start hearing stuff like this about most of the modern cartoons decades from now.
I'm hearing about this shit today
Source?
Yeah social media exists you see more of an inkling like that today than you did decades ago.
It's a big game of follow the leader.
Derrick J. Wyatt regretted not getting Paul Eiding to reprise Perceptor in Transformers Animated after working with him on Ben 10 Omniverse.
I think one of the writers for kick buttowski hated working on that show, but beyond that I know no other examle. Iirc this guy Derrick J Wyatt heavily disliking xiaolin showdown, but he never worked on that.
>Derrick J Wyatt heavily disliking xiaolin showdown, but he never worked on that.
Just racism.
Go back to twitter, moron. DJW wasn't a racist. Just an butthole.
SEETHING.
About what? You were the one who brought race stuff up.
Wyatt ended up bitter with Omniverse after fan backlash and executives screwing it over. He still loves the series enough to keep doing art and and answer fan questions, up until his untimely death.
He died? That's crazy.
I thought he was just busy working on a show or something.
He died back in December; we even had a sticky for it.
Taz mania was one of my favorite shows growing up so his feelings are worthless
As people pointed out, Taz doesn't work with a solo show as he was and it’s probably one of the best things he's been in (by default) so I'm not sure what this dude's problem is.
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I hate when creators bash their own shit. No matter what you think about the finale product it is somebody’s favorite thing .
Cringe and downvote.
I hate when creators defend their shit to death instead of acknowledging it's flaws, wants and learning from them.
There's a difference between Andrew Dobson refusing to admit his work has serious problems and Alec Guinness telling a young Star Wars fans not to watch those movies.
Agreed, it was great and the giant cast made the episodes feel different even when there was a very limited set of ideas you can push. I hated the kid brother tho
Ralph Bakshi hated Mighty Mouse because he couldn't understand why they kept making same generic shit over and over again that gave no artistic freedom. That's why he stopped working for mainstream animation and went independent.
I thought Bakshi's version of Mighty Mouse was the one that was intended for animators who hated working on formulaic shit (such as John K.).
He's talking about the original theatrical Mighty Mouse.
Are you saying Bakeshi worked on that? I haven't checked but I thought the timeline doesn't line up.
>I haven't checked but I thought the timeline doesn't line up.
how so?
Stonetoss
The horror stories were true, enthusiastic animators working in Mexico or overseas and terrible quality overall. things got better in the late 80's and now with the internet we live in the best era for animators
Skyler Page hated working on Clarence because all the women there were uppity b***hes who couldn't take a compliment
From what I heard, he got overworked, and the stress mixed with his own mental problem culminated into him going completely schizo
I'm not sure about the overworked part because apparently he had very little do to with the show, but he has a form of Bipolar 1 that occasionally results in behavior that mimics schizophrenia. On the same day the sexual assault happened, he was also walking down the streets shirtless screaming at cops.
I hate how the mental breakdown got left out of the conversation and it's still talked about like a standard #MeToo case.
So who was really in charge of the ship over on Clarence
I never cared for Clarence but I personally found it disgusting how everyone involved was apparently willing to throw their mentally ill co-worker under the bus in an age before MeToo no less.
Chris Houghton mentioned on his Tumbrl that he disliked for a long time the episode Dinner Party of Big City Greens since it was just 11 minutes of the characters fighting.
One fanartist of Trollhunters: Tales of Arcadia from Tumbrl who got hired to work on Wizards hated the way Trollhunters Rise Of Titans ended
It does have probably one of the worst endings possible.
>What if the main character erased the events of the entire series to give the amulet to his best friend who will almost immediately die to Ron Pearlman anyway and effectively jeopardize the planet in the litany of apocalyptic events to come
>Erasing who characters turned into at the ends of all those events
There is Star Vs. genocide for Chicano femboy dick and then there is THAT.
Didn't they had a whole ass What If? Episode showing why giving the amulet to other people an idea who could end the world
Many people from Spiderman:In To The Spiderverse mention that working on the Emoji Movie was their worst gig at their lives
Emoji movie was awful, I can understand why they dislike it.
Was there any sources?
It's the writers' job to make the series interesting.
During a fan interview, Mitch Larson openly said that he hated working on the Pony Show's fifth season because everything was a complete mess full of chaos and he had to deal with writers who hadn't even watched the series before submitting their new episode pitches.
He also claimed that when Lauren Faust and Rob Renzetti directed the first 2 seasons they had everything neatly organized and kept the series' direction stable (lol) but once they left, the show's soul was lost for good.
He later went to work with Faust on Super Hero Girls and wrote some of the funniest episodes of that series.
I remember that on that Interview that he liked working more on his last Littlest Pet Shop episode beacuse the crew of that show was still organized, mentioning on a AMA that he wished to work on the Final Season of LPS than S5 of Horse Show
i think horse really shouldve ended with season 3 or 4. it went on for way too long
Either that or being given a staff that actually CARED.
Jim Miller really helped a lot to devastate that series as he kept thinking he still was directing Ed, Edd n' Eddy, and his endless drama and meltdowns on Twitter every time his era was criticrized did nothing to make things better.
fwiw i think mccarthy did a good job picking up where faust left off, but it became clear by the end of season 4 that she was far more interested in equestria girls.
McCarthy turned the equine cartoon into a generic series that had nothing to do with it's original roots. Plus she played favourites with the protagonist at everyone else's expense and added some cringy "hurt the orphan dragon" humour that had nothing of funny about it.
She did better than Haber and Miller's era, though, but the movie she wrote was plain generic garbage.
So find a die hard fan who's truly talented to replace her on FIM and let her do Equestria Girls full time.
it should have gone the futurama way or done like land before time. A special or two a year for the next 5 or 6 years
Seasons 5-7 were fine and superior to 3 and 4. 8 and 9 is where the series completely shat the bed.
Seasons 6-7 were the Poochie seasons and the staff hated the backlash it received from more and more irate fans who complained about how Poochie Horse stole the spotlight from the protgonists and made them act like morons whenever she was on screen to shill herself as the new voice of reason, even if this was done at the cost of destroying the series' balance and worfing down everyone, including the laserhorse Princesses.
Ask any fan with a working brain and he will say that the series made a fatal nosedive once Poochie was forced into the cast, and then ask them if they remember how some horse staffers like Jim Miller ranted on Twitter and openly claimed to not care if the new show direction made longtime fans feel depressed or dissapointed because they were all proud of what they were doing with the show, and if they disliked so much the new show direction, they all should just quit watching and stop complaining to the staff.
This kind of internet meltdowns were usually followed by some walls of text and open letters trying to apply damage control, make some apologies and asking the fans to "please understand", only to repeat the same meltdown over and over and over again whenever the staff saw more and more negative feedback.
I would say that until this day, the new horse show staff is still sore and mad because no matter what they did, the general consensus is that their era could never mesaure against that the original horse show staff did before they took over.
Starlight was mostly fine. Her episodes were funny and the humour was on point. I can already tell you're the sort of twitter moron who religiously follows youtube analysts who b***hed and moaned that HOLY SHIT WHY HASN'T SHE RECEIVED MORE PUNISHMENT ACCORDING TO MY CHARTS THE LEVEL OF VILLAINY HERE IS 17% GREATER THAN THIS GUY.... and so on. Her episodes with Trixie were great. The show was always best when it was about the humour and her episodes provided that. Compare an episode like Hearth's warming tale or No Second prances to a pile of dogshit like Yakity-Sax, or any of the 'Daring do is real' episodes.
The best way to think about the show is that S1 and 2 are the most consistent in quality. The one bad episode (MMDW) garnered a massive, dark reputation, but if you go back now it's just kinda dull. It was such a bogeyman because it didn't fit the mold. Later seasons imo could experience genuinely better highs, but also mixed it up with worse lows. Season 3 is a mess of confusion as the show staff scramble to deal with the loss of Faust, Season 4 is them messing around and trying a bunch of different things only like half of which stick around, 5-7 feel like the setting feeling more rounded out and falling into a decent groove, 8-9 are mostly trash. Don't watch them.
I'm so glad I stopped after 3 and never returned
Honestly, I think the show peaked at Season 5.
Season 05 was when the show went to hell and when the most unpleaseant horse fans decided to camp out to be annoying 24/7.
Season 05 was also when the current staff behind of the horse show made public how much they hated the fans for not liking the new spin they gave to the series.
Good thing everything after season one isn't canon
The show was fun.
Donald's VA hated working on Ducktales 17 because they made his voice worse. In contrast he loved working on Legend of the 3 Caballeros because they let him do his thing properly.
You got proof of that or are you just speaking your own thoughts out your ass?
It's on a forum dedicated to Rosa and Classic Duck comics who mention this on multiple conventions where Tony has been attending, it's also know that Tony Aselmo helped on the writting of Caballeros than DuckTales 2017
There definitely is a video I watched where he explained how he usually makes some changes to a script because certain words and how they're used in a sentence can become unintelligible in Donald's voice, but Ducktales 17 crew wanted him just to say what was written even if Donald couldn't be understood.
Well that answers that for me. Thanks
14 minute mark
Member of the white aborigine Mudpeople tribe with an upper class accent. Double reverse racism?
Die.
The Rugrats creators preferred the show then they were babies and like Kamp Koral AGU was a product of executive meddling after the high ratings of that special that aired during its 10th anniversary.
Unlike Kamp Koral AGU was actually decent.
I love how nobody in this image except for Susie looks happy to be there.
>Angelica's bored
>Dil's facing away from the camera
>everyone else is smiling nervously
>The Rugrats creators preferred the show then they were babies
The writers couldn't even agree on that either. Klasky and Germain were constant butting heads.
bro look at how hip and current they are!
Mike Fontanelli hated working on Tiny Toons and especially Animaniacs.
>Works for John K.
>Also worked on shitty R&S ripoff for Disney.
That explains.
ren and stimpy was made by people who hated working on tiny toons
animaniacs was made by people who liked or at least didn’t mind working on tiny toons
>ren and stimpy was made by people who hated working on tiny toons
Pic related makes more sense now
The Ren and Stimpy clones are supposed to be squashed but it looks like they are standing on their feet. Congratulations, Wang.
Tiny Toons took shots at pretty much every other big cartoon at the time - The Simpsons, TMNT, etc. Granted, they all fell flat, but it's not like it was JUST shitting on B&B and R&S
All I remember about this show is that the guy who did the designs also did the artwork for Cranium, a board game that was hot shit for a while
Naka wasn't the only reason Balan Wonderworld was shit - Square Enix pulled a lot of bullshit behind the scenes as well. I'm not saying Naka is blameless, but treating him as the sole villain is a bit disingenuous.
>Naka wasn't the only reason Balan Wonderworld was shit - Square Enix pulled a lot of bullshit behind the scenes as well. I'm not saying Naka is blameless, but treating him as the sole villain is a bit disingenuous.
I know, but having the game based upon a single button and other baffling design decisions would made it inherently flawed to begin with and those all came from him no matter how SE promoted it.
>the breasts look suspiciously accurate
he probably tittyfricked them hard
Those teeth. I feel like I have to brush again by proxy.
kek based. Tom Ruegger writes like he loves sniffing his own farts.
>Be Tom
>never groomed any dicky until legal age
loser
I fricking spit-laughed halfway through that screenshot. absolutely based
This! Why do people like 90s cartoons again?
Beacuse it dosn't have lesbians and propaganda according to /copol/
Bullshit the 90s were more pozzed compared to anything out today.
You need to go back
They were a massive improvement on what was on TV before that wasn't re-aired theatrical shorts, and they grew up with them. Even something as marginally remembered as Fox's Peter Pan basically btfo any 80s cartoon.
Sounds like a bitter gay. He should just go ahead and kill himself.
Based ren and stimpy creator supporter
Anyways I heard Pat Ventura hated how Screwy Squirrel turned out in the Tom And Jerry kids spinoff so it's why Sledgehammer O Possum is created
It's amazing how Tex created Screwy precisely to be as annoying as possible and yet I'd take a day of his cartoons (such as in that CN April Fools) over another minute with Sledgehammer. Nothing against Pat as a person but the man can't write a likable screwball character to save his life
Yucky Duck was more likable anyways and so was his other characters such as Jamal and the dangerous duck brothers.
>Tom and Jerry kids
I guess MGM still has a soft spot for Screwey.
In fact he appeared in one of the modern T&J shows. I always liked how the MGM characters always ended up in the T&J shows; Droopy Dog, The Wolf, Red Hot Ridding Hood. Like they are all in the same universe
Lost of the Tom and Jerry crew worked on Tex Avery’s cartoons at MGM
>Same composer, Scott Bradley
>Same sound effects
>Fred Quimby being involved in both cartoons
Explains why John K hated Animaniacs so much.
wasn't that the point of the show?
Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, and Freakazoid were Spielberg shows full of raunchy quips and pop culture references that didn't appeal to many watchers and only have a strong legacy by adults who jerk off the "Finger Prince" gag. They were self-fellating.
The shows are 99% clean, classic gags but people just remember the adult jokes more. Even the fricking Animaniacs reboot writers seem to think the show was nothing but political references and adult humor.
I dislike Animaniacs but I despise vague smug buttholes. tbh my issue with Animaniacs is that it didn't know whether it was aimed at 5 year olds or at Spielberg's boomer buddies who got all the Hollywood Golden age references, and in the process it bores both.
Voltron Storyboard Artist Carli Squitieri hated that they brought back Ezor to please the fandom when the og scripts for S7/S8 had the character being dead.
That shit was dumb. I guess they were scared of fans crying over "muh buried gays" bullshit. Frankly, the shitty "fans" should have gotten every horrible thing they deserved.
that shiro shit he meant to die so many times
What is up with serialized Dreamworks TVA cartoons having tons of executive meddling and having shitty endings
I do not know but I wish some of the artist on She-Ra, could come here and give AMA. I heard that the production of that show was atrocious
>I heard that the production of that show was atrocious
Is your source that annoying black artist who had a spat with WiA
No its a podcast featuring an animation couple, one of whom quit the industry, the other still works in it. And in passing he said that the production of the show was shit
A DTVA Storyboard Anon who posted on the Tangled threads mentioned that the crew despised Shorty being added on all of Season 2 as a comic relief.
Oh yeah, I remember her. She was cool. I also believe pretty much every storyboarder on the show loved Cass.
What else did she disclose?
Also I think I know who she was
was it anna lencioni? She participated in onyx equinox threads, too
That's her
I forgot, she just shared tidbits here and there. She also showed off storyboards sometimes, in particular the one she did for Nothing Left To Lose was pretty cool
I fricking loved Taz show. This homie hates it?
Hugh is a dilf, so I love it, too.
Hey Chris. Are you sick of Cory's autism yet?
Both Bento Box Animators and Disney Executives hated it
That shit is on HBO
The Baymax crew at Walt Disney Feature Animation didn't like Big Hero 6 The Series from Disney TVA
Proof?
The shorts don't even have easter eggs of the show, i think it was clear.
I thought they wanted to take the series in different direction with plotlines and more serious villian, but exces fricked them over?
>filmation
>no dicky
It's hard hard to work without dicky
I think these two posts sum up my feelings on this kind of thing. The best case scenario for venting your spleen like this is a couple of people chiming in 'yeah I hated it too' at the cost of making people who -did- like what you worked on wonder what your problem is.
Maybe I'm just overloaded on people doing fly-by shitting online. I think I'm just going to go watch some Tazmania.
John K didn't like working at Hanna-Barbera at all.
i remember reading some his stories. he made it sound like HB was absolutely 'no fun allowed'. hed get handed a standard saturday morning script to board and would try to spice it up with visual gags, only to get slapped down from higher ups saying not to deviate from the writers' notes and to add in as little extra animation as possible
And to this day I still quote those character he hated, they were fun
The other characters were the main appeal of that show though.
Most of the people who worked on CatDog hated it. Hillenburg and Drymon had Nick Studios employees who basically begged them to work on SpongeBob. Hannan had to scramble and beg people to work on CatDog, to the point that Drymon and Jennings went on to work on CatDog's first season before basically raiding the crew and taking Leichliter, Smart, Wiese and Tibbitt with them to produce SpongeBob.
They ordered like 100 episodes of it over Spongebob, right?
2000's Nick was fricking stupid. So many shows they either lost or ended early for no reason.
Yes because at one point they seriously thought it would be their next big thing, not SpongeBob
Makes sense tho. Nick always wanted a lighter more friendlier Ren and Stimpy they thought they were going to get that with Cat and Dog, since R&S had just ended.
I don't get how working for one show would be more or less chaotic if they're under the same building or management. Can someone with industry knowledge explain this to me?
It's not like a company where everything is top down, it's more like different teams making very different products with passive supervision from big wigs. For the vastly different experience: Imagine if the director butts heads with censors or producers and things have to be changed last minute. That's extra work for everyone. Simple visual mistakes can go unnoticed until the tail end of a production and add more work, or even simple things like lead animators giving vague or contradictory instructions/comments/corrections can really slow everything down.
The production flow is called a pipeline because you can't start working before the guy before you has done his job, meaning the more mistakes and frickups there are early on the more it will snowball and frick everything up by the time post production begins.
>ex: you have to start a scene over because your animation lead gives odd comments
>director overrides lead because they don't communicate and you have to redo the scene AGAIN
>colorists can't start working on time
>editor rips his hair out
>if the episode doesn't air on time the studio gets fined into oblivion so crunch time it is, again
>meanwhile, your colleagues on some other show are doing just fine because their showrunners don't smoke crack
also there drawing from staff when catdog was greenlit that even staff hated from the very start
>Cat-Dog Day Afternoon
This made me laugh harder than most of the show. Shame on them if it was never turned into an episode.
Taz is a literal moron. Srs. Awfully unappealing character.
So you can relate.
> Tom Ruegger of Animaniacs fame described NBC's obscure Jokebook as "an unmitigated disaster"; at the time, he was working at the studio that made it, Hanna-Barbera, and while not directly involved, he had a front-row seat to witness the whole debacle. It was an animated Sketch Comedy conceived by a close friend of HB co-founder Joe Barbera, and described by the network as "a seven-part series featuring animated humor".
>Problem was, this man, Harry Love, was a humorless old creep who lacked much experience or talent in stories. He rejected his peers' ideas for sketches, feeling that his own jokes were good enough, and flaunted his connections to Barbera. Additionally, the animation was originally so awful (even by the standards of that era) that NBC wouldn't touch it, but once much of the animation was fixed it became clear that Love's Dirty Old Man tendencies crept into the gags, which Ruegger described as "wheezy, lame and ancient one-panel sex jokes rejected by Playboy and other publications at least a decade before". NBC found many of them far too crass and inappropriate for broadcast, and HB had to fill the gaps left by the rejected sketches with student and independent animated films (among them being a bowdlerized version of Ted Petok's Academy Award winner The Crunch Bird).
>At any rate, NBC had lost all faith in the project by this point, and dumped it in the Friday Night Death Slot right in the middle of the 1981-82 season against The Dukes of Hazzard and Benson, where it did so poorly that its second episode was dead last in the ratings among all shows aired that week, prompting NBC to pull the plug after just three of the planned seven episodes. Ruegger doubts that it would've lasted much longer even with better ratings, because so much of the original content was removed that it was hard for HB to find enough outside material for the three broadcast episodes, let alone seven.
What is it about Hanna-Barbera properties and them either being classics or utter garbage? There is no in-between
ah, see this is the kind of interesting shit i was hoping to see in this thread.
Due constant notes from Marvel Legal Team, Dan Povenmire hates the Phineas And Ferb Mission Marvel Special
Source?
I think it was the Toonrifiq interview with one of the show's writters.
That was Robert F Hughes, one of the episodes directors. He described Dan having a tough time dealing with Marvel's notes but describes it as a blast and seems happy with the final product.
I remember on the Blu-Ray of Gravity Falls that Alex Hirsch mentioned that Dipper vs. Manliness was his least favorite episode of the show.
It's a bad episode....but there are some others that are worse.
Taz-Mania wasn't a great show but I can't abide this guy insulting the Bob Hope father his blah blahs and yackity smackities.
I really can't remember where I read this from, maybe it was in passing on someone's Twitter or whoever. But I remember either Justin Roiland, Alex Hirsch, or CH Greenblatt mentioning how much talent was on Fish Hooks and how much of it was wasted because of an unfunny or inexperienced showrunner, I can't remember which word they used to describe Noah Z. Jones.
I really feel like it was something CH Greenblatt mentioned on Tumblr but I can't be assed enough to dig through it.
It was Maxwell Atoms
Not a cartoonist but I vaguely remember Rob Paulson saying something on voicing the lead character on Coconut Fred and saying something along the lines of 'a paycheck is a paycheck' but still being ashamed of it.
>Warburton, Greenblatt and Atoms on the same show
>it's shit
holy frick the management/direction must've been positively radioactive, three people responsible for some of CN's best shows (and in regards to Greenblatt working on Spongebob's golden years too) and it just turned out to be ass.
>Atoms, Mr FRICKING Warburton, and Greenblatt all on one show
whoa momma how did disney frick this up
I don't really remember it being awful. Fish Hooks was fairly popular and had hype around it when it initially came out, and the show ended up lasting four years.
>Fish Hooks was fairly popular and had hype around it when it initially came out
Nice bait post.
You emphasize Warburton like he isn’t a kind of a hack.
>According to Milton Knight, many of the staffers openly despised working on this show. Knight himself enjoyed working on it, but found the animation, writing, and most of the voice acting to be quite shoddy.
>Big fat and repulsive
they fricked up on the last part
I can't imagine why they wouldn't have liked it. It looks like a show where the people making it were having a little too much fun with it at the cost of its qualityRDM0N
This show was still one of the funniest shows of it's time so they sure did a good job not showing it.
The show does feel cheap in the animation department compared to the pilot.
The pilot we produced directly by Dic in America while the series was outsourced to either china or south Korea
>we
Wat
They can take pride in the fact that it's still better than anything the Japs have done with the franchise since the Genesis.
The 90's ova was incredibly good and Eggman was the perfect mix of a goofbal, genius, perv and legit threat there.
Basically the entire ova amounts to Eggman trying to destroy the world and cause mass genocide so he could be the only one who could get to marry a hot teenaged catgirl.
Metal Sonic was awesome there as well.
>The 90's ova was incredibly good
Eh, the OVA was mediocre. Everything with Metal Sonic was great, but the rest was really standard anime stuff.
I thought it was a really good ova for it's era, considering that back then, every game IP was getting a crappy cashgrab animated adaptation that had barely anything to do with the original source.
>the OVA was mediocre
Shut your prostitute mouth
>the rest was really standard anime stuff.
Shut the frick up
That's always been on the manga adaptations, and Sara and the Owl character were far from standard aime stuff
>The OVA was mediocre
STFU
>Sonic should be a bratty Bart Simpson esque character
Sonic is nothing like Bart
Sonic is a badass motherfricker
The OVA was mediocre, BUT in perfectly captured how the characters should be. Egg man should a goofy mustache twirling bad guy and Sonic should be a bratty Bart Simpson esque character
He was the reason the show was good in the first place.
The reason it was so good was primarily Long John Baldry's fantastic performance.
Has there been a statement from ANYONE over from the DiC side, or even the western side in general, that they where HAPPY to work on one of the biggest video games of the 90s?
I figure most of the rejection was from Boomers who didn't take video games seriously & thought Sonic was tripe for children.
I know Ben Hurst was happy with SatAM, but I have a hunch he was more happy with the direction that he took the cartoon, rather than the source the cartoon was based on?
Based Chuck Jones enjoyer
Jones was a cringelord, eternally butthurt Clampett had was way more talented than him. Have you ever watched his later cartoons without the help of Michael Maltese, Ken Harris and other talents? They were pure utter garbage.
Besides, Taz was a McKimson character. Jones had nothing to do with him.
Jones was unfortunately not a groomer
Holy Seethe Batman
Jones also became way too snooty after leaving WB. Definitley agree that his best work was with Maltese, Harris, etc.
Not to mention that his characters looked the best in the late 40s, early 50s. After the UPA craze he decided to draw the characters too angular, he made Bugs and Daffy kind of ugly. Wile E was still well drawn but I still consider his first cartoon the definitive design (a caricature of Ken Harris, BTW).
>(a caricature of Ken Harris, BTW).
Yeah I heard this too. I remember Richard Williams once recalled when meeting Ken Harris for the first time he literally burst out laughing as soon and Ken came out of the elevator. Richard said, “You look just like the coyote.”
I also heard he was the inspiration for Dan Backslide
That's correct. He was also caricatured as the car thief in There Auto Be A Law. Harris was once a race car driver and there is a list online of every car he owned from 1912 to 1980.
What? Source!
http://www.masteranimator.com/cars.html
Those colors look bright as frick.
I heard John K thinks that Fire Dogs 2 had slow pacing.
Worst was this kind of shit, he made the characters entirely too cutesy, especially when he started adding eyelashes and shit. Dunno wtf he was thinking.
Jones worked with Daffy since 1938 and practically had the framework laid out for his version of the character by his first directed cartoon with the character in 1942 (picture related is his design; he drew Daffy with two toes instead of three).
He was known for the "bedroom eyes" gimmick and the funny faces made tons of people laugh (because it was unexpected), but at some point he probably thought it was what made him GOOD, so he integrated it into his style. But it's hardly there before the late 50s.
There.
He always did his own thing as well. Which is why his cartoons stand out.
I'm not a fan of his cutesy artstyle either, I mean WHAT IS THIS?
His artstyle was already like this back in the 30s when he was imitating Disney. The only reason why Chuck made his own style in 1942 because he is almost getting fired.
Idk why Clampett Daffy is potrayed as a goofable duck while Chuck flanderized him to be a grumpy duck. This got worse when DFE took over.
jones fell HARD for the UPA meme
>Filtered by Mr. Magoo
Plebeian taste
The only real problem with that show is the epilepsy triggering opening. lol
Lauren Faust wanted DC Super Hero Girls to be more continuity driven than episodic inspired by other lore based shows at the time, however WB executives told her that no and made the first season episodic.
She wanted something like Teen Titans, got Teen Titans Go for girls.
WB should have let her do just that.
She had the same problems with Hasbro during her time directing the Horse Show, which eventually made her quit and leave, because according to her, she nearly killed herself working on that series to make it good, and Hasbro kept meddling with it, forcing her to include dumb things like modern machines that had no place in a horse world or dumbing down her scripts because they were "too difficult to understand"
Once she quit, her role was filled by nothing but yesmen and the series' quality plummetd to the ground, something that the veteran writer and director M.A. Larson openly described as a nightmarish experience to work with.
I remember a Jellystone! crew member or voice actor making inderect replies that there was a big amount of Augie, Yakky and Shag episodes on S1 due executive meddling and that mostly the crew wanted to work with other HB characters instead of making kid focused episodes
It was so weird how it just seemingly dumped Yogi and everyone to the side for fifty kid episodes
The She-Ra VA from the Original Series hates the reboot by Nate Stevenson
Most normal people do.
An DTVA Anon who worked on Big Hero 6 The Series mentioned here that the writting team despised Mini-Max but Disney forced him to add him in more episodes to sell more merch of him
>sell more merch of him
WAS there merch of him?
Yes
This is surprising because usually when execs demand a character added in a series for merch, no merch actually happens.
The later horse show series are guilty of this- hasbro asked the staff to include a school, the show staff decided to make it a permanent part of the series and added a bunch of DIVERSITY charatcters to the already ultra bloated cast, and nearly zero toys were made out of this.
Plus the new characters were (as usual) crazy hated and damaging to the already weakened series' balance.
Yep Hasbro lost it's mind.
Now I'm curious if any scooby doo writers felt this way about scrappy doo.
>le babby yoder
>le babby groot
>le miss marvel's cat
>le buzzyear's cat
Yeah I believe it
Jim Jinkins dislikes Disney's version of Doug beacuse he felt it took the charm of Nickelodeon's version
It surprises me for Disney that despite hunting nostalgia specially with their reboots, remakes and sequels they haven't even thought in bringing Doug back for Disney+ despite that it was very huge under them than Nickelodeon.
It might be because of potential legal issues with Nickelodeon that they can't go forward with a new Doug. Or maybe they just lost faith in the series after the movie bombed.
Serves them right for the ultimate hubris act that was baptizing it as Doug's FIRST movie
Or a combination of both.
The closest Doug merch we got recently we’re Funkos.
Its honestly kinda crazy to me that Disney at one of their heights of power was like WE MUST BUY DOUG and then proceed to do two years of it and then lock it away.
My best bet was that they wanted Rugrats and Nickelodeon told them to frick off and saw Doug as a leftover
IIRC, Nick had refused to greenlight a fifth season after the original series hit 52 episodes. After Disney bought Jumbo Pictures, they decided to resume production of the show.
Nick had budget cuts and decided not to renew the show, but the deal they did for all of the first three Nicktoons was that if they didn't reach 65 episodes, the creators would keep the rights, although Nick would have two years to change their mind before losing it. Nick owns their episodes, but Disney owns the whole IP.
>Nick owns their episodes, but Disney owns the whole IP.
incidentally this is a large part of why Disney Doug changes up so many things right from the beginning of the first episode like having the Honker Burger turn into a snooty French restaurant or Roger suddenly becoming rich
Not an exact case of hating what they worked on but rather a case of hating that they got screwed over.
Tom Ruegger, the creative head of the original Tiny Toons and Animaniacs, in a recent podcast, revealed the story of the involvement of him and Paul Rugg (Animaniacs and Freakazoid writer) in Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures. Basically, they were hired by Avi Arad to develop the show. In the process the two produced a 50-ish page series bible building the world and containing enough premises and plot material for multiple seasons (this being why the two are listed as the show's developers in the series credits) while also writing the two-part premiere. They understood they were going to become producers and the story editors afterwards but were instead suddenly let go with pay once they finished work on the bible and first two episodes all thanks to a clause in their contracts. Tom called what went down "showbiz".
If you know anything about Avi Arad or Haim Saban, you'd know that they basically equate to the Devil.
>A classic Hollywood story involves Gene Simmons of Kiss. In the late ’90s, as co-owner of the Fox Family Channel, Saban was developing shows for children. Simmons, the fire-breathing, blood-spitting frontman of a rock band in costumes and face paint, pitched Saban an idea for a new Saturday-morning cartoon: Kiss meets X-Men, the Marvel comics superhero team. Saban liked the concept well enough to convene a meeting with Avi Arad, then C.E.O. of Marvel’s toy division.
>At the appointed time, Saban, Arad, and Simmons sat down. The meeting was going well, and the three began to haggle over numbers. Then Saban turned to Arad and, referring to Simmons, confided in Hebrew, “Now we gut him like a fish.” Without missing a beat, Simmons—who, unbeknownst to Saban, was born Chaim Witz in Haifa, Israel—replied in Hebrew, “You butthole. I’m one of you.”
Fricking outjewed
Sounds similar to the story where Yugi Naka was a large factor in getting a promising Dreamcast exclusive canned because he assumed the team didn't understand Japanese (many of them did) when he made some choice comments, in Japanese, during the tour of their studio.
https://www.ign.com/articles/geist-force-dreamcast
I'd be interested in hearing Naka's side of the story, given he still remembers
Naka tweeted that he has no idea what Geist Force was and that he wouldn't even have had the power to shut it down anyway.
That doesn't really change the story though, Naka wasn't accused of literally shutting down the game; what was said was that Naka suggested they ship the game and then liquidate the team, keeping the best guys. Its very possible Naka didn't even note the games name (because honestly "Geist Force" is pretty generic,), he just looked at footage, thought there was only a few things of note, and tossed an idea in. It was still enough to allegedly disillusion the team, though.
https://twitter.com/nakayuji/status/1545784834160615424
True, but here's a link to what he specifically said if you wanted to interpret it.
>https://www.ign.com/articles/geist-force-dreamcast
Naka is kind of a credit stealing primadonna butthole that was a headache to work with and refuses to listen to others, hence why Balan Wonderworld turned out so shit. He was never good.
>Hollywood is literally israelites israeliteing other israelites
These people are poison to any type of creativity. This is probably how the Chip and Dale movie got greenlit when it should've been something else decades ago.
Why backstab people who can help you and wrote a whole damn lore bible for you? What if you have questions again but have burned that bridge? All that for some sort of short term gain?
>Jews literally trying to outisraelite each other
This is fricking hilarious
No exceptions in the pursuit of money.
>Not mad they they tried to israelite people, but mad that they tried to israelite a israelite
You can't make this shit up.
Isn't this like that "honor among thieves" thing? They can fleece dumb people all day but it's frowned upon to do it to another fellow thief.
More like honor among israelites. Thieves don't have honor, that's what makes them thieves, and they regularly target each other because who's going to go to the police that their stolen shit was stolen from them?
holy shit, fricking israelites
reminds me of their israelite buddy Shuki levy who though the exact same kind of predatory dealings claimed the rights to tons of theme songs and production music for dozens of cartoons. people still don't know the truth about these buttholes.
Many know the truth their just not allowed to talk about it.
Man Kiss loved nothing more than selling out.
Kiss is more of a brand than anything else.
Jews really are something else.
This is why you demand people speak only one language during a meeting. It prevents shit like this. This is why prisons don't allow visitors and convicts to speak foreign languages.
My fricking sides, man
OK, this is total bs.
There is no way in hell they couldn't have known Gene was a fricking israelite.
Despite what we know about his life now, that was absolutely not a well advertised fact back in the day.
We might recognize Gene Simmons without his makeup nowadays, but even high level guys like Saban would have mostly known him for being the Demon from Kiss at that point in time.
Chris Sanders didn't like the Stitch Anime that Disney Japan made
I'm just now realising, that the patrick star show is basically the taz-mania show but with a spongebob flavor
Nate Stevenson had a gripe with Kyle on She-Ra for some reason
ND said in an interview that Kyle existed to poke fun at "everymen" character who would have been the hero to find the sword in other stories.
And they did it by...just shitting on the character and making everyone in the show hate him for no reason instead of being a clever deconstruction of the trope. Instead it just came off as the writers finding bullying/abuse funny. Which goes against the other message they were promoting.
As if ND was insecure and paranoid of the fans liking Kyle and speculating with He-Man theories, and was afraid that Kyle could somehow steal Adora's place as the hero for some reason. It's really stupid.
According to Dan Povenmire, Bob Schooley, Bruce W Smith and Alex Hirsch, Walt Disney Pictures points Teacher's Pet failure at the box office as the main reason why they don't want Disney TVA to make theatrical movies when they pitched Kim Possible The Movie, The Proud Family Movie, Phineas And Ferb The Movie: AT2D and Weirdmaggedon as theatrical films.
In all fairness the Proud Family movie would have failed Hard. Kim and Gravity Falls I could see performing decently. Phineas and Ferb at the height of the shows popularity would have done pretty well.
GF is the only one I can see doing good. The rest are hacks.
Alex go frick another teenager
The Proud Family and especially Phineas and Ferb are far more popular in mainstream culture spaces.
Phineas and Ferb I can believe it since at its peak it rivaled SpongeBob in ratings, and I can believe it on The Proud Family an extent since they made a continuation, but do you have more proof on how popular it was at its peak?
The fact that some people at Disney thought that this show and its hideous art style was worthy a movie is honestly pathetic. Did anyone even like this back then? I don't think I've ever seen someone talk about it in real-life.
>hideous art style
No need to go ham on Gary Baseman dude. Admittedly his strength lies in illustration.
I'm with the guy you replied to, honestly. I really hate this art style.
At the very least it's not an artsyle that pops up constantly. I appreciate this weird off the wall style circa the 90s and how experimental it could get. I'm still gutted over Everett Peck passing.
Baseman was really big around the turn of the Millennium. Cranium used to be everywhere.
the show sucks because it's a sanitized version of his art, without the slightly edgy elements it looks lame
Fugly edginess.
>He was the first American-born child of four to Ben and Naomi Baseman, both Holocaust survivors originally from Eastern Poland (now Ukraine).
Frick, my fricking sides. Every fricking time. If a israelite actually created something beautiful would Satan suddenly appear and spray acid vomit all over him? They certainly must believe so.
Ingest thine medication
The movie is good tbh, but yeah Kim Possible needed to be the film to be released on theaters while Teacher's Pet needed a Direct To VHS release
>but yeah Kim Possible needed to be the film to be released on theaters
lol no it fricking didn't
>Talk shit about Gary Baseman art
GET THE HELL OUT FROM Cinemaphile
Thanks for pulling Teachers Pet from the dark recesses of my mind. I remember this movie and it was shit. The art style was like CalArts before CalArts existed. Nobody liked it, it shouldn't have been drawn in that style, and there was no charm in any of the characters.
Does anyone know how it even got a movie? What was the nepotism story behind it? I remember critics loving it because they put in "Micky Mouse easter eggs" (who cares?) and it had some selling quirk some of the critics rallied behind, like it was fully 2D animated musical or something. Again, who cares. It's awful compared to other Disney 2D musicals.
It's one of those animated films that was pure pretentious poison to children, sort of like Animaniacs was to some kids. I knew no kid outside myself who watched it and it was deemed kind of cringe around my peers that even knew what it was.
This happened with cartoon network also with the ppg 2002 film bombing
It's been 18 year, Disney TVA should do another theatrical movie. Possibly that Amphibia time travel one.
Nah it will go to Big City Greens or a third Phineas And Ferb Film
Then Make the Amphibia Time Travel Movie either a Disney Channel original or Disney+ exclusive.
This, an Amphibia movie would bomb hard. And I like Amphibia
This feels like the missing link between that squiggle artstyle from the 90s and the modern simplified design work we have.
>he gave Tazz's Dad piss to drink
How are you so sure?
Matt Youngberg the showrunner of DuckTales 2017 was the one who took and mocked the famous photo of the CN Intern sketch who drew over Spike Spiegel's desing by his actual designer.
Interesting but not at all related to the topic
Harry Shearer is very vocal about the state of the Simpsons.
>This sums up CN perfectly.
>says the Mouseketeer with no respect for older works
The hypocrisy is astounding.
No wonder why Sanberg and Rogen cucked him and Frank of a Chip N Dale Rescue Rangers and Darkwing Duck Reboot
I wonder if the people working on the zombie shows like modern Simpsons, Family Guy, etc, will ever come forward and say how much they hate working on it
There's this rumor that after being attacked, Lauren Zuke has a gripe to watch all their Steven Universe episodes
That is depressing as hell
Joe Barbera of Hanna-Barbera didn't necessarily hate Scooby-Doo, he just didn't understand why it was so damn popular.
Despite not seeing the appeal of the show himself he was very happy it was making him a lot of money.
Say what you will about Hanna-Barbera's TV output, the men were geniuses at exploiting the masses for money.
Same reason why Walt Disney hated Alice in Wonderland and loved Bambi yet the former has been a Disneyland mainstay since day one and the latter has yet to get an attraction. Smart businessmen know their personal feelings are below those of paying customers.
Walt didn't hate Alice in Wonderland. He was disappointed with the final product because he thought he didn't do the book justice.
He had attempted to make an Alice film for decades and wanted to do it with a Live Action actress visiting an animated wonderland but that was too costly and there were a lot of issues.
Alice in Wonderland sadly bombed in release and couldn't recoup its budget. I don't know if Americans were just braindead or what but what a fricking shame that a great movie like that bombed.
But what did Tasmanian people think of the show?
they look really happy to be civilised
>these clothes stink, I want to prance around naked again
Aren't they extinct?
Alex Hirsch didn't hate Gravity Falls itself but he despised working on it, the production was so chaotic (which was the reason for the show's fricked up airing schedule) that he almost ended it in season one even with the cliffhanger ending but he was pressured to continue by Jon Stewart and Patrick Mchale.
https://ohmy.disney.com/insider/2016/02/15/inside-the-decision-to-end-gravity-falls/
If there was one episode he did admit to disliking though then it's Dipper vs Manliness, which he was bothered by because he thought it leaned too far on the wacky side of the show.
I am pretty sure he also dislikes the Roadtrip episode because it is placed just before the endgame.
Yeah he said they should have switched the episode placements although I used to believe before that it was intentional as a "calm before the storm" ep, one last lighthearted adventure.
Thank you Jon Stewart and Patrick Mchale for not letting Gravity Falls end on a cliffhanger.
Not a show, but animation related... Lucky the Leprechaun for Lucky Charms is pretty widely hated among animators as the worst gig in cartoon mascots. Unironically people called him "Sucky Lucky" which isn't very funny or creative, but whatever, animators aren't wordsmiths. The pay is the same but the work is way harder because his design is elaborate.
>Paul Tibbitt hates what Nickelodeon is doing to SpongeBob after green lighting Kamp Koral after Hillenburgs death.
>3 years later
>Paul Tibbitt admits the seasons under his direction were shit and the current one is better.
Does this finally put the “Hillenburg doesn’t approve of spinoffs” shit to rest?
Amazing how one man’s tweet can destroy a fanbase this hard.
Anon you keep posting this and people keep telling you thatnyou are too autistic to understand the polite nature of the ladt line.
Saying "Steve would have hated this (his creation getting milked further)" and "the crew is doing good work" can both be said at the same time and not contradict each other anon...
Even Gábor Csupó thinks the Rugrats reboot is soulless.
>scripts these days are factory made
What does he mean by this? That they're just very canned, or is there a disconnect between writers and animators now? Is it like a team that just makes marketable scripts?
>Ken Harris
I remember reading in a Rugrats book about the production of the show that i had as a kid that a single episode would take 6 months to a year to produce.
I pinpoint that as my great awakening as child that the stuff i liked was very difficult to do and make and i should be grateful for what i get. Its funny because now i think kids/audiences are expecting stuff as quickly as possible because of how we consume media. It really sucks for creators, especially content creators.
Linda Cardellini did voice work on Sanjay and Craig and has spoken very little of the show since then likely due to the negative reputation it got.
Despite their recent meme status, Ralph Bakshi wasn’t happy with the two Firedogs episodes he starred in on Ren and Stimpy APC
> “John thinks he has me nailed, but it’s wrong,”
Also, I love this painting of Ralph, forgot to post it.
Also, Katie Rice obviously hates her work for Spumco. Once on Twitter, many artists were posting image collages of all the jobs they have had. Katie posted all her work, but all her Spumco work was shrink down.
I still think its bizarre hearing her voice come out of the sexy beach girl in APC
>Katie posted all her work, but all her Spumco work was shrink down.
Do you have a link to Katie's collage?
https://twitter.com/katiejrice/status/1341891667297619968?t=0eiea-MWeIO15xPvZ-wA0g&s=19
Thanks anon.
Billy West does not like talking about working on the show and refuses to work with John Kricfalusi ever again, citing having a bad experience with him on and off it. In particular, Kricfalusi demanded West quit the show alongside him in order to force the network to hire him back even though West needed the job and could have been blacklisted alongside Kricfalusi had he done it and failed, and West just saw the show as a job anyway and didn't feel any obligation to be loyal to Kricfalusi.
Ill never understand why Tex Avery had a hateboner for this character. Maybe he felt he was too much of a Bug Bunny knockoff? Either way I really liked original design
Screwy Squirrel is fricking based. Woody Woodpecker on steroids
I hated him too
Am I the only one who actually like Screwy Squirrel?
No I love him and his OG design. He reminds me a bit of Roger Rabbit, where he almost like a parody or homage to those type of 40s characters, even tho he came out in the 40s
Screwy Squirrel was literally created as a big FRICK YOU to the cutsey animal characters used by Disney and every hack who tried to copy Disney. That's why he's so difficult to use, since he's only funny when he's making fun of other people's stuff.
Roger Rabbit was also designed to be intentionally annoying.
Tex Avery is Tex calling out your bluff. "Oh you love screwballs? Have the ultimate one!". Tex had him downright murdered in his last short. Based Tex.
>that one time CN ran a 24 hour marathon of the handful of cartoons this character is in
WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING
i miss those times when it was clear the inmates were running the asylum
The Twisted Tales era of Felix had a frick ton of problems. Watching the show myself, I can tell when they get "experimental" because they ran out of money, such as with the backgrounds episode and any episode that extensively uses stock footage.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/TheTwistedTalesOfFelixTheCat
>Also, Don Oriolo, then-owner of Felix, was very unhappy with how both seasons turned out, and was absolutely furious with how the staff handled the characterization of his dad's characters in the second season, especially the depiction of Professor and Rock Bottom.
Abso-fricking-lutely worth it to make that hack seethe, frick Oriolo, he can't die fast enough.
What I wouldn't give to see Oriolo's reaction upon the Professor/Rockbottom episode in S2. It's a savage middle finger to the 50's series.
Joe Oriolo? I think he'd find it funny.
We rather have Otto Messer. He is the true creator. While Pat Sullivan is also a creator, he is also a hack after I found out in the previous thread a few months ago and this article below:
https://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/new-york-animation-felix-the-cash-cow/
Messmer even knew Sullivan was a troubled individual.
The hell’s your problem?
the Twisted crew (who also worked on AoStH) wanted Felix to return to his original roots. Unfortunately Don Oriolo wanted the 2nd season to be like his dad's, which was a bland bootleg dimestore Mickey Mouse though Felix predated Mickey by almost a decade. Knowing full well that following Don's wishes would mean a boring as frick cartoon not to mention they were already under the pressure of the one-two punch from Fox Kids and Kids WB. Might as well go out with a bang and give Oriolo the highway salute too.
I hate HB because they didn't take money from their audience to start shitty cartoons.
It wasn’t that bad.
wow
The 2018 a kockasfulu nyul reboot. The original creators disliked it so much that they canned it after a single episode.
Also another example is the creators of the 1981 vuk the little fox have no words to give for the 2008 and they pretend that the sequel doesn't exist.
>this thread
Did people not like Taz-mania? I remember it being good.
Most of the thread features other topics on why people that worked on Ren and stimpy hated working on tiny toons.
On the pre-premiere Billy Dilley threads, an Anon mentioned that Aaron Springer hated his post-movie SpongeBob Episodes.
He's absolutely right
Taz Mania and all the other shitty Spielberg cartoons sucked ass
Taz-Mania was a Tom Ruegger show who also did those other shows, but it wasn't a Spielberg production.
Same thing.
Shit was trite and boring as frick.
I could tell it was made by the guys who did Tiny Toons and Animaniacs.
Thomas Astruc ruined Chloe's rendemption arc just beacuse he despised the character
Yeah, but Astruc is batshit insane.
That's incredibly petty and thin skinned.
All this thread seems to be saying is that shows aren't good if the animators like them.
During a Spongebob S1-S3 Writters Reunion at a Anime Expo, Merriwether Williams mentioned that she was liked by Lauren and the majority of the Horse Show staff but had to quit due the harassment of Horsegays calling her episodes as the worst episodes of the show and worst writter.
Pretty sad considering that worse writters came after she left making her episodes harmless in retrospective unlike that episode where they recycle the same lesson of Fall Weather Friends but making it more annoying.
>Merriwether Williams
She used to be the worst writer of the pony show indeed, but the late series writers did even worse than her.
Her writing was heavily criticrized for overusing the Idiot Plot formula at the character's character expenses and for adding stupid external factors to create artificial plot driving poblems.
She used to do better when Faust and Renzetti still were around to hold her hand and keep her from going full moron, though.
Honestly the worst aspect of that fricking fandom was Horsegays, like Digibro for example, refusing to admit the obvious, that they were watching a children’s cartoon show, a show for VERY YOUNG children
The post Faust era made it worse by having the show staff trying to cater to older fans and soaking up on all the praise and validation they could drain from them, but immediately playing the "Remember this is a show for little girls" angle when their bad performance was brought up.
If the show was for little girls, the staff should have never tried to bond with older fans. If the show tried to cater to older fans,then it should have never been treated as a show for little girls only.
Nothing good ever comes when a show staff tries to get both things at once and then bounce back and forth from the "We love older fans" and "Frick older fans, this is a show for little girls" as Jim Miller was infamously capped more than once.
It's either one or the another, but never both stances at once, and once you pick a stance, you die on that hill instead of changing horses at mid race.
remember the 100th episode that was basically larson yanking it to the fandom
and then the voice actresses of the mane 6 and spike wrote the 200th episode together and the bronies hated it because it was fun and appealing to the show's target audience
>then the voice actresses of the mane 6 and spike wrote the 200th episode together and the bronies hated it because it was fun and appealing to the show's target audience
From what I remember, the adult fans liked the 200th episode and praised it's writing because it was vastly superior to anything the late series was churning out.
Speaking about voice actors, the spiked dragon's VA hated the pseudo sequel (Horse Life) and outright refused to lend her voice to that series.
/mlp/ is kind of the odd one out - the board showed overwhelming support because most people there actually understand what made the show popular in the first place oddly enough, but many on forums, etc thought it to be low-stakes and too revolved around the central core cast which i cant really wrap my head around
>And then the voice actresses of the Mane 6 and Spike wrote the 200th episode together and the bronies hated it because it was fun and appealing to the show's target audience
Frick them i watched it one day while channel surfing and reminded me of the Early S1 days while the 100th episode reminded me of that shitty fananimation named as the first full fan-made episode.
I remember that Larson on a Interview said that the 100th episode was going to be Amending Fences but Hasbro and the writting team told him to make a Brony centered episode of the BG characters.
>Amending Fences
That actually would've been a great 100th episode. Frick Hasbro.
The 100th episode was half good (the main plot about 2 older characters getting married and the entire horse town rushing to finish the wedding preparations on time because the were sent with the wrong date was a genuinely good plot) but the crappy half was how the show staff tried to use fandom memes and fandom interpretation of background characters and tried to make it's own spin of them, fricking them up.
Probably the most hated aspect was how one of the background horses was memed into a Tenth Doctor expy (the second season gave him a redesign to deliberatey make it look like David Tennant) and the current show staff changed him into a Doc Brown exply with a moronic voice, a moronic personality and the 11th Doctor's bowtie, completely missing the point of the meme they were trying to copy.
For the record, the horse show got a manga adaptation that took the most popular horse memes and made them part of the manga, and the fandom basically agreed that the manga not just used them the right way but also created a product as enjoyable as the 2 first horse seasons, which were the most popular and beloved show seasons of G4.
didn't they used also one of Larson S4 scripts on S7 that mocked the fandom and rescue it as a way to make fun at them for not liking the current direction of the series
Larson hated that episode and later claimed that his original pitch was completely different before Hasbro got it rewritten into a middle finger to generic mean fans.
>the voice actresses of the mane 6 and spike wrote the 200th episode together and the bronies hated it because it was fun and appealing to the show's target audience
I liked it.
Unlike the 100th episode, I don't remember anyone who hated the 200th one.
>and then the voice actresses of the mane 6 and spike wrote the 200th episode together and the bronies hated it because it was fun and appealing to the show's target audience
Source: my smelly butthole. Nobody disliked that episode. The biggest problem with the last two seasons was that almost all the episodes were fricking boring because the writers couldn't decide if they wanted to focus on the new students or keep the focus back on the MCs, so they just kind of half-assed both at the same time.
The general consensus on the 200th episode was that the voice actors were practically the only ones who still could "get" the characters and that an episode pitched by them turned out better than anything the late seasons could do.
Plus the visual gag with the book and the lock was legit funny.
People liked it because the final season had like, what? 3 or 4 palatable episodes? The 200th episode, and the villain episodes. The others were either bad or worse: boring and forgettable. Hey everyone, let's watch an episode about Patton Oswalt's stepdaughter... hooray?
People liked it because it was genuinely good and even tried it's best to patch over some holes that the current staff never bothered to fill, like smol dragon's relationship with purple horse, plus it was nice to see the terrible trio working as a perfect team to infiltrate the horse capital, create a ton of distractions and steal some secrets without anyone noticing they were there or even noticing that something very important and dangerous had been stolen.
As someone who fell off mid-S2 and since then has exclusively kept abreast of the plot through porn, is it worth going back and watching the later stuff a decade later or is it best to just leave it in the past?
The 2 first seasons still hold fine after so long despite some problems that became evident after watching the newer seasons, like the crude original flash models looking a bit wonky or the coloring issues that gave the 2 first seasons a washed up feeling.
I definitely would not reccomend you to wach the later seasons since they have a completey different feeling and a chaotic pace, as every team that handled it wanted to do it's own thing regardless of watever the previous team was trying to do, and as a result the series ended with a ton of loose ends and subplots that went nowhere and eventually were swept under the rug without any explanation.
>It's either one or the another, but never both stances at once, and once you pick a stance, you die on that hill instead of changing horses at mid race.
Indeed. But after G4 ended, the seemed to revert to the little girl audience, Pony Life was outright hated by bronies and they're neither hide nor hair of references to the brony fandom in G4. I personally blame the sheer about of degenerates and lolcows G4 spawned that cast a bad light on the series, for all intents and purposes the brony fandom is dead.
>hide nor hair of references to the brony fandom in G4
I mean G5, oops.
I remember many of the staff members of the G5 Film and G5 series calling them horny weirdos specially when the Bronies complained on the lack of butt on the new designs of the characters
About that, I remember the G4 staff commenting about how they deliberately increased the amount of scenes foccused on butts.
Jim Miller used to bring up the pony butts wenever he tried so score points among some fans during his usual validation fishing sprees on Twitter.
No wonder Larson claimed to hate so much to work on that show when guys like Miller got promoted to animation director status.
Man im loving these mlp stories. Someone needs to make a full fledged documentary about the show and its fans and also, all the nonsense that went behind the scenes
In many ways, its the ultimate cautionary tale about giving n the fans way too much control
That and about what happens when a new show staff takes over a series and rather than follow the formula that made the series beloved and popular, they decide to change everything tosuit their own ideas, add literally dozens of new characters to a series that was already overflowing with them and even force a literal Poochie to try to make her thr new protagonist leading her own set of new characters, as some massive secret emails leakage proved a few years ago.
Bottom line: if you are planning to change a series to the point it doesn't look at all like it's original self anymore, you may as well resign and pitch a completely new cartoon to put your ideas and characters there.
> and even force a literal Poochie to try to make her thr new protagonist leading her own set of new characters, as some massive secret emails leakage proved a few years ago.
Woah, woah, woah, what was this about? I stopped watching the show a long time ago, what the hell was this?
Leaked emails and documents revealed that when Josh Haber became the horse show's runner he was planning to turn his OC Starlight Glimmer into the new protagonist (and leading her own group of disciples) starting from season 07 onwards.
That's why she was redeemed so abruptly at the end of season 05 and shilled so blatantly during season 06 and 07, at the expense of making the rest of characters (and the protagonists, to boot) behave like complete idiots so she could be seen as the voice of reason.
Except that the intended audience (little girls, you know) hated her guts and her toys sould very poorly because even a little girl can tell when a moron is tampering with a show to sell you his crappy pet character, so Hasbro called quits on the original plan and from season 08 onwards, the horse staff reduced her number of episodes and screen time to try reducing the damage she caused, but it was too late.
Haber's new plan (and some people says he did this out of spite) was introducing 6 young and diverse characters to force them into the new chosen ones to do the hero stuff.
The new characters barely got any toys and the intended audience generally hated their guts as well.
>Someone needs to make a full fledged documentary about the show and its fans
There was one, and it sucked.
There's also a retrospective video by Jenny Nicholson (one of the friendship is witchcraft creators) which is better, but still barely scratches the surface.
Which is the first one you are referring? Because at the height of the fandom there must have been at least 20 documentaries
the "official" one with john de lancie using brony slave labor im guessing
>Man im loving these mlp stories.
Do you know that one of /mlp/'s drawgays (Pencils) actually got one of the IDW horse comic artists (Jay Fosgitt) permanently kicked out for working on the horse comic and took his place after he decided to redraw one of his crappy pages using his own style?
And it looked so damn good that he decided to show it to the horse comic editor (Bobby Curnow) who immediately hired him to draw some comic covers and later gave him full horse issues to draw?
The horse staffers (and their personal army of tard fans) who already hated Cinemaphile and /mlp/ seethed with rage and tried to get him kicked out from IDW out of spite because they couldn't handle the fact that a fricking channer not just did a better job than one of the "chosen ones" but also took his place and became popular among the readers.
That is one of the best fandom stories I have ever heard haha. Frick the staff and their moron fan army, power to the artists, big and small. Also kind of inspirational
The funniest part is that he became a popular /mlp/ drawgay because he drew a story about Anon in Equestria, peppered with tons of lewd jokes and such, and when he became an official IDW artist to draw the pony comic, they gave him the 69th issue as his first story to draw.
It was almost poetic.
I've always wondered if there is any truth to the longstanding rumor that Faust deliberately designed the pony butts to appeal to a male audience.
The pony butts looking the way as they did was just the result of creating more anatomically accurate flash models so they could have more articulation points and be easier to animate into realistic horse poses and horse walking cycles.
The leaked emails, leaked show notes and leaked show bible had a funny bit about how one of the protagonists needed to be drawn with "more butt" to compensate for the way as her long mane covered her body and made it look unbalanced.
If I remember correctly, Faust commented that even when she was a little girl she absolutely loathed the way as the original G1 horses had stumpy legs and a big, shapeless rump because the animators wanted to avoid drawing horse legs and horse butts the way as it should.
Nah, I just they were a result of having an actual great artist design the characters. The ponies dont look horses, they have these Bambi faces to make them cute and curve big butts and thighs (like the kind women have) to make them look appealing, otherwise they would have ugly horse legs.
Thats what made the show such a success, specially in its first two seasons, that they had a bunch of professional industry veterans working on the show, like Faust, Renzetti, and yes…Chris Savino, who I think is actually Trixie’s creator.
Bruh, hahaha. What is he up to nowadays anyway?
Pencils moved to furry and Bowsette shit meanwhile Fosgitt is behind to a suitable artstyle on the Young Donald Duck comics
Fosgitt's comics always have looked like ass no matter what character is he drawing.
His time drawing for Marvel gave us nothing but terrible stories as he refuses to follow any character guides or even use any kind of references to make his art look like it's supposed to look, plus he's still infamous for stealing from fanstuff or using non commercial vectors for commercial purposes.
His time as a horse artist was full of scandals involving stolen designs and crappyly added vectors badly resized and full of white artifacts crudely pasted on top of his "drawings".
And he never bothered to draw backgrounds if he could avoid it, which was okay because whenever he bothered to draw any they never resembled how they looked like in the show.
In fact, his drawings were so crappy and his lack of care was so great that one of the horse comic writers ragequit ever writing more horse stories because she was tired of seeing how that hack destroyed her stories with characters who didn't even remotely resembled their TV counterparts.
I mean, dude. Alienating your readers is one thing, but pissing off one of your coworkers and making her quit is a different kind of low.
He makes a living off his art and is taking care of his sick father. And if I remember correctly, he's going to draw the G5 horse comics as well.
There's always this rumor that Jim Miller and the rest of the S5-S9 staff DESPISED the human spin-off and the references of it on those episodes where just added by animators who worked on the two IPs but the team hated that spin-off.
Funny thing considering that the spin-off did better things than those seasons after the fourth film
Jim Miller constantly defended the spinoff and was enraged at fans who rightfully accused it from stealing time, talent and resources from the horse cartoon.
I don't know why are you trying so hard to lie and falseflag things here.
It was Faust hated with a passion, posting pics of the ugly ass doll dolls on her Twitter for all to mock
Also
I do not knwo how true this is, but I heard through the grapevine, that the real reason Faust left was because of money, and that Hub didnt want to give her or the show more money
Would explain why many artists in the earlier season left
>but I heard through the grapevine
You keep "hearing things" but do not provide a source.
You just want to derail this conversation, don't you?
I heard it on a podcast featuring an artist who worked on Gravity Falls
To be fair, the artist in question is kind of a lunatic, so take what I said with a grain of salt
>Damage control: The Post.
Like I said, you are free to not believe me.
Im just curious, because I noticed that a lot of the industry veterans who worked on the show early on, just left
Let me guess the Podcast featured Luke (Never Scored with Terrace) Weber
IIRC besides Faust that the other ones who despised the spin-off where Larson and John de Lancie
Also, the real reason why Faust quit working on FiM, and you can just search the source to confirm, is because according to her own words "It stopped being fun", which was a soft way to refer to the endless series meddling and changes made at her back.
The first season having a steam locomotive forcefully added to a train despite her attempts to not including it (the original pitch had a series of train cars pulled by horses) or a third magic princess (and pink, no less) being added without consulting her were just two examples of how Hasbro's meddling quickly took all the fun away from her job.
Walt Disney didn't like the spaghetti scene of Lady And The Tramp
>Hugh
>bad
Frick off
In the late 40's, Jack Hannah was promoted as almost sole director of all Donald Duck cartoons. Thing is, by then he had written and animated for the character for a decade, so he was already jaded and had even grown to hate Don's voice by the time he was given almost full reigns to his cartoons. So he immediately set to relocate the spotlight to Chip n' Dale and other such vermin, while downplaying the presence of the character you were watching the short for to begin with.
Don't give a frick about this dude's opinion. The show was fine.
The Sony Leak mentioned that Genndy Tartakovsky hated the Sandler meddling on Hotel Transylvania 2
Was Hotel Transylvania something Tartakovsky came up with and the Sandler Gang came on board or did the Sandler Gang come up with it and hired Tartakovsky to direct it for them? Either way, Tartakovsky should've known that Sandler just makes movies for him and his friends to just goof around and have fun
dont know if sandler came up with it, but genndy was brought on board to salvage the production of the original film after sony had burnt through five other directors in like 2 or 3 years
>but genndy was brought on board to salvage the production of the original film after sony had burnt through five other directors in like 2 or 3 years
Oh damn
Shiro was supposed to get killed on the real Season 1 Finale of Voltron Legendary Defender on production order that is E13 of Season 2, however Dreamworks told them that no beacuse the character became popular and that's where the real storyline for the actual S2 and S3 went down the toilet.
Bryan Konietzko (creator of Avatar and Korra) said that while he loved watching the show after it was finished. He hated working on King Of The Hill.
This says a lot and explains much more.
>explains much more.
What does it explaine exactly?
Just shitposting and joking a bit, my good anon.
"The guy who made korra/avatar liked tazmania? That makes sense!"
Not really serious.
It was originally ordered as a standalone DC Super Hero Girls Film, later during the finished touches of production a CN executive demanded for TTGO! to be shoehorned to give it views.
And you can clearly tell watching the movie.
Teen Titans Go! is forever
It's funny how each TTG Film appearence is worse then the last one.
TTG Go to the Movies was shockingly good.
TTG vs TT Mediocre and cheap.
Mayhem in the Multiverse What purpose did they have?
>Mayhem in the Multiverse What purpose did they have?
Trying to save another Warner Bros Animation show but they failed again (Scooby Doo and Guess Who?,Thundercats Roar)
>Trying to save another Warner Bros Animation show but they failed again (Scooby Doo and Guess Who?,Thundercats Roar)
Hope those frickers at WB don't try to make another crossover movie of TTGO! with Jellystone! to boost is ratings.
Super Hero Girls deserved better
From what I remember none of the voice actors who were on Beast Machines liked their work on the show, with the sole exclusion of David Kaye. He liked monologuing as Megatron.
I don't remember where I got this from so take it with a grain of salt
What i HATE is you disgusting lefties who harass and threaten to rape Sophia Narwitz for standing against your bullshit movie "Paws of Fury"
Literally who? Literally what?
What the hell are you talking about, Black?
Ignore the obvious derailer.
Seth hated Cleveland Show.
True, but the Cleveland Show jokes are funny
Funny as in, funny on it's own, or for a FG clone?
Radford Sechrist hated the constant notes at development at Dreamworks with Kipo And The Age Of The Wonderbeasts.
Dreamworks wanted for Kipo to go to school to be more relatable with kids, the three seasons released are just 1 season in production order.
Kim Possible was a shit hole to work in
Beast Machines left such a bad impression story editor Marty Isenberg preferred not to talk about it or to be related to it. Anxious he was when he was offered to write for a new Transformers cartoon years later, because of it, that new cartoon did fine, tho.
Bet Dan Didio slept like a baby following that.
Wow, those designs are a special level of hideous
It's been fun, boys!