>be lapis
>bitch
>inconsistent personality
>abusive
>jobber
>coward
>still continues be widely considered the best SU character purely because shes the only conventionally attractive gem
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ITT Characters that are carried entirely by their design
I am still floored about the scene where the mayor got all knee wobbly about meeting Pearl and called her "The Hot One"
When you hate someone, you find all sorts of reasons to get upset at them. The only real reason Cinemaphile hates her is because she became moody from her trauma and ruined their perfect alien waifu fantasy.
Yes. Lapis a shit. Pearl a MILF from voice alone.
No, I actually liked her when she was moody. Her acting like an edgy teenager was funny. My issue is that they couldn't fricking choose a personality for her, they kept switching between moody teenager, to aloof carefree big sister, to depressed butthole. And then I truly started to hate her when she just kept fricking running away, just when you think she'll get some character development, she leaves again and it resets.
Cinemaphile only ever liked Lapis when she WAS being moody because of her trauma. It's when she came back and started acting like a c**t instead of just moody that people turned on her. Plus the show just writing off everything she did as being a victim when she was arguably way worse than Jasper in that situation.
>writing off everything she did as being a victim when she was arguably way worse than Jasper in that situation.
Oh frick off you Jaspertard
You're seriously gonna say Lapis was in the wrong for stopping her in Jailbreak or for not being eager to get back with her in S3?
Is that the level of revisionism we're on now?
Checked and I'm not a Jaspergay, I actually despise those homosexuals like you wouldn't believe. Don't put words in my mouth you fricking c**t.
That aside, Lapis could have stopped Jasper without basically mindraping her for months. Since she could, you know, move the entire fricking ocean and could have just slammed it down on her instead of the forced fusion thing. And the show itself treated this as a negative but treated Jasper like she was in the wrong for it when it was Lapis that did the forced fusion. You don't have to be a moronic Jasperhomosexual to see what's wrong with this.
Lapis did that out of necessity, not because she enjoyed it herself. If she tried to move the ocean while Jasper held her she'd just be poofed on the spot. If anything that was basically a self-sacrifice for Lapis and you have to be the pettiest most autistic nitpicker to go "ummm yeah that's not the nicest thing to do u know that's kinda shitty I mean think about Jaspers feelings mmmkay"
Then blame the fricking show itself for treating it like this horrible awful thing that happened and then acting like Jasper was in the wrong for it. Jasper was in the wrong for all kinds of shit and frankly she deserved a worse ending than she got if you ask me, by the end of the series she pulled the same shit on what was effectively a moronic dog, but don't fricking act like the series didn't go out of its way to portray Malachite as an abomination and the whole forced fusion aspect as fricked up torture just to give Lapis the slide on it.
NTA but Lapis is wrong AND moronic.
Why even fricking get involved? Lapis probably didn't have a video feed of the fight with Garnet but she easily could tell since Jasper wanted help, that the CGs were winning the fight, oh yeah and they destroyed her ship. So if she hated Jasper she could have done nothing and have been rid of her and maybe more CGs since she wasn't a fan of theirs.
Lapis is also by a wide margin the strongest gem there and didn't need to trap herself with Jasper to manipulate the ocean they were right next to. Even if she just wanted to escape she could have done that since Jasper didn't have another ship and she's the only one that can fly.
The only thing that makes is she wanted revenge and she changed her mind after fusing which is also moronic.
Yep, we're in this state where anon hates the character so he nitpicks everything they've ever done, even something that was clearly written as a dramatic sacrifice to save Steven and the character herself suffered from this. This was something people were intellectually honest enough to acknowledge until they started hating the character and looking for more things to get mad about from the past episodes.
I also don't know why anyone would even blame Lapis for this or feel sorry for Jasper in this situation considering it was a victim getting back at her abuser.
You accused me of being a Jaspergay and now it's becoming abundantly obvious to me that you're a Lapisgay. God the projection from you waifugayging wienersuckers is unreal. The fricking show itself made this out as a bad thing you disingenuous frickface, curious that you keep ignoring this point when I bring it up. Do you also take issue with the writers? Because you should, it's their fault this is even being discussed at all. I'm sure the fact they let Lapis off the hook is fine by you though, so you don't care that the whole conversation only exists because of them outright making it an attempted allegory for abusive relationships. I don't "feel sorry" for Jasper, I literally just said I think she deserves worse and I think she's a fricking dog rapist, but you can't detach that from the fact that people are criticizing your perfect little waifu can you? God you people make me fricking sick.
I'm not a waifugay. If anything I don't rememebr much about Lapis as a character post-S3. I just don't like people disingenuous morons and trying to revise history. No one gave a shit about this during S1-3 and people only retroactively tried to dig this up as a gotcha because they wanted more things to get mad about. Yes, Lapis sacrificed her own freedom and suffered to trap Jasper together with her in an unendung battle of wills. Why am I supposed to hate her for this of all things?
>her backstory episode didn't add any depth to her character
Define depth or suffer in buzzword hell for eternity.
>Why should we care that she was choosing to put herself in a stressful situation
Because the argument is that she did something amoral and should be punished for it, even though one, it's beyond stupid to blame a person in her situation for not having mercy towards her captor, two, she suffered for this herself. What kind of extra punishment is there supposed to be?
>She came back at the last second and joined the crystal gems and was immediately forgiven for everything with no fallout from Steven or Peridot
A chsracter who refuses to help but eventually comes back go help save the day? That's a pretty standard trope. In any other show no one wuld mind it and you know it.
>it's beyond stupid to blame a person in her situation for not having mercy towards her captor
Fighting your kidnapper and even killing them is perfectly acceptable. Kidnapping your kidnapper and keeping them locked up for months is psychotic behavior and you become as bad as them.
Jasper already had the shit beat out of her and was in no place to fight 4 vs 1 at the end of Jalbreak, that's the only reason she put her pride aside and tried getting Lapis to fuse with her in the first place
Lapis fusing with her, especially forcing the fusion for as long as she did, was always completely unnecessary and more harmful than helpful, and NTA but if a show is going to try to pull off a domestic violence allegory then portraying the party who forced the other party to stay in the "relationship" and get off to taking their pent up anger out on them the whole time as the "victim" then it's only natural for the bad writing critics to point at that character as the problem
>but if a show is going to try to pull off a domestic violence allegory then portraying the party who forced the other party to stay in the "relationship" and get off to taking their pent up anger out on them the whole time as the "victim" then it's only natural for the bad writing critics to point at that character as the problem
No, it's not natural when you're not acting like a disingenuous moronic robot and actually remember the context.
>Heh... So if fusion signifies relationships... Doesn't that mean Lapis raped Jasper? Um yeah amoral much??? That's not very nice to do sweetie.
Never mind the way Jasper treated her and the fact that she essentially saw her as a tool even when trying to fuse. Again you have to be on some level of disingenuous to seriously blame Lapis for this. It's like if someone had a real huge fricking hateboner for Lion King and said the hyenas were in the wrong for eating Scar at the end of something, such a pointless petty complaint.
Except if you're looking at all the context then you're also taking into account that Jasper was only on Earth trying to get revenge on the crystal gems because she had her own tragic backstory just like Lapis, and many other characters, only she and other characters were still held accountable for acting like crazy b***hes and had to deal with the consequences (unlike Lapis)
Jasper never put Lapis even close to the extent of torture that Lapis put Jasper through, and Lapis only did so because she was angry at everybody else who kept her trapped in the mirror and wanted her own revenge, which Jasper had nothing to do with but was made into a scapegoat for
>Yes, Lapis sacrificed her own freedom and suffered to trap Jasper together with her in an unendung battle of wills. Why am I supposed to hate her for this of all things?
Because the show tries to go out of it's way to make the viewer pity her for this after turning in into a terrible abusive relationship allegory where she fills the roll as the abuser (keeping the other party from leaving the relationship, trapping the other party in isolation against their will, enjoying causing harm to the other party, giving the other party a form of stockholm by making them dependent on her)
"Depth" as in her backstory episode did nothing to give more reason for her hatred towards the crystal gems, and in fact makes it less reasonable for her to want to return to homeworld when it was mostly homeworld to blame for trapping her in the mirror
And no, at least from my memory people would excuse Lapis' actions for the most part because of her "loyal" relationship with Steven, but the fact that she turned on him and essentially left him for dead when the diamonds stated heading for Earth was a big reason why a lot of gays turned on her during the last season, on top of her treating Peridot like shit
She got away with too much butthole behavior (trying to kill steven immediately after he saved her from the mirror, fusing with jasper- simultaneously forcing the crystal gems to fight malachite and torturing smeone for months on end, cowardly abandoning Steven and stealing Peridot's barn when Steven and Peridot beg her to help them defend earth) and all the pity partying she threw for herself got really old when plenty of other characters suffered horribly and still got called out when they did something shitty
The entirety of her character is propped up on being a depressed edgy b***h but it doesn't work when the narrative just treats her with baby gloves and lets her stagnate for seasons on end without interacting with anyone who isn't Steven/Peridot/Jasper
>trying to kill steven immediately after he saved her from the mirror
Nobody cared when that was airing because people liked her back then.
>fusing with jasper- simultaneously forcing the crystal gems to fight malachite and torturing smeone for months on end
Never mind that it was torture for her too.
>cowardly abandoning Steven and stealing Peridot's barn when Steven and Peridot beg her to help them defend earth)
Didn't she help defend Earth at the end though?
Nobody minded it at first because it was assumed Lapis was going to have a legitimate reason to hate the crystal gems and both would eventually spend quality time together to work out the conflict, neither ever happened, her backstory episode didn't add any depth to her character and she never had any personal interactions with the main gems after her introduction
Why should we care that she was choosing to put herself in a stressful situation when Jasper wanted out and Steven himself begged her to stop and it wasn't doing anything to help anybody else? Jasper was still 100% on the receiving end if you're looking at it through the "abusive relationship" goggles the writers tried to paint it as
She came back at the last second and joined the crystal gems and was immediately forgiven for everything with no fallout from Steven or Peridot, because she's badly written and every one of the plot developments she's involved in is glossed over
>Never mind that it was torture for her too.
Difference is Lapis chose that path while Jasper didn't. Even if you want to say it was to "save Steven", she could have just held her hostage for a second, tell the crystal gems to poof them both, and there you go. Instead she chose to lock both of them for months in torture out of spite, and nobody ever mentions any of that or confronts her about it. Not even Garnet, who cares so much about fusion.
>Didn't she help defend Earth at the end though?
Yes, but she also did so by destroying the barn, which had Peridot's things in it and wasn't even theirs, it belonged to Steven's uncle who let them stay out of kindness. The fact she even has to ruin other people's things in her most heroic moment just shows how much of a vile piece of shit she was
the reverse is also true and the reason this thread exists
>still continues be widely considered the best SU character purely because shes the only conventionally attractive gem
She's regularly considered the worst character in the show, the frick are you talking about? She's considered one of the most frickable designs yes, but any discussion of the show surrounding her invariably involves people calling her out as being awful.
>Rebecca Sugar revealed Lapis having a mother/daughter relationship with Blue
>Never actually shown in the series this is how some gems view their relationship with their diamonds
The show had such poor execution.
The fact that Lapis is such a moody b***h made her friendship with Steven that much more charming. She hates pretty much everything, but adores Steven. CN's insistence that Steven not visibly age strangled the show's best ship in the cradle. In a better world, the show would have focused heavily on Steven and Lapis growing into a couple as they mature.
In a less ratings-restrained show Lapis would have at the very least tried to frick Steven's brains out for saving her. Even in the show there was kind of a weird tension between them and once Steven grew up there wouldn't be much reason for her to hold back. It's clear she really values Steven and only tries to open up to him Zuke shit aside which I don't consider canon since that was pretty much fanfiction being inserted into the show
I'd hatefrick Lapis until my balls and prostate were completely empty and then still try to keep going anyway. Her design makes me cum buckets.
>Fricking Lapis
>About to cum
>She uses her water powers to completely drain your prostate
>Strongest orgasm of your entire life
lapiss a shit, Peridot is objectively best gem
>ITT Characters that are carried entirely by their design
Here you go.
She really didn't have a lot going for her huh?
Besides being the hot girl she was a void of personality. It was a terrible decision to waste so much time with Jackie x Marco without trying to make her interesting.
Yep, it's unfortunate because Jackie COULD have been more than just the token love interest that Marco is meant to get over, but the writers just had to have their Star x Marco OTP.
Honestly, I wish they had made her even crazier.
I also wanted her to bully Peridot more. To a degree where people didn't want to ship them together because of how clearly toxic their relationship is.
Talk about having dog shit taste. Jesus Christ, OP, you are beyond pathetic.
Name 5 good things about her, that aren't related to how much you want to frick her. Go on
I liked the fact that she was distrustful of everyone but would always acquiesce for Steven. Like when she was pouting on top of the silo and refused to come down until Steven asked her to.
Your choice of images is very creepy and tells us that you really are only a waifugay coping with excuses to defend her.
Why does it always have to be waifugayging with you, someone just can't like a character because they think their neat noooo it's because they're a waifugay.
I'm actually the anon that was complaining about waifugayging first, and that poster isn't me. I actually like Swain's creepy Lapis comics.
>Why does it always have to be waifugayging with you
What other way can I describe a person who has all those comics saved and decides to make 5 separate posts instead of just answering in one?
Ohhh, you're a Spinel fan. Now I get it.
>I can't be a waifugay, you have to be one
Desperate cope. Nobody even mentioned Spinel once in this thread until you did.
Don't worry. Your secret's safe with me.
Whatever makes you feel less insecure about your LapisXSteven fanfiction schizo.
Look at us. A couple of cards. Birds of a feather. A Lapisgay and a Spinelgay. Who'd ever thought we'd have such chemistry?
Hey, man. There was a request for five reasons to like her. I gave five reasons. You can't then go say "Eww, you actually had five reasons to like her?"
This art is trash btw. Don't pretend that it's not.
I'm sure the original artist did it as a shitpost, but this anon surely jacks off to it.
Man you’re fricking salty.
I'm really not. I just can't stand spam shit and you, honestly, deserve to watch everyone you love suffer as much as humanly possible.
I’m not the Lapis poster, I dropped off SU ages ago and if I for some reason HAD to pick any of the girls from this as my fave it’d be Jasper, you’re just a spiteful c**t who needs to touch grass.
>le touch grass meme
I hope you die a gruesome death.
Please do tell me where these 25 Lapis threads are Seethe-kun, because we barely even get SU threads in the first place.
Check the archive, homosexual-kun. Put in the last 24 hours and see.
I don’t see shit for Lapis that isn’t from this thread, why are you lying?
How's it spamming if it's all separate content relevant to the thread?
Where do you think we are? It's an IMAGE board.
25 times a day is spam.
Swain, you duplicitous taint.
I also liked how despite her millennia of entrapment in a mirror, she still connected through her sense of humor. Something as simple as fart sounds made her open up to a stranger. And despite all her depression, her humor always stayed, like in the episode where she pretended to be Garnet.
I always enjoyed her dry wit and sassy responses. It's very British comedy.
Personally, I connected with her depression and PTSD. That starvation for affection while also being paranoid to connect with anyone. I think the writers handled that frustrating balance very well.
And frankly, she just has a cute design. It's very pleasant to look at, purely on an aesthetic level.
Lapis seemed like the type that kept a calendar counting down the days until Steven turns 18.
>the only conventionally attractive gem
I'm getting sick of these meme, there were plenty of conventionally attractive gems. Most of the blue gems are just for starters.
It’s almost as if the writers intentionally made her out to be that way.
>intentionally made her have an inconsistent personality
That's the biggest flaw of the character really. Putting aside that they wanted to make a problematic b***h and never committed to her having any consequences for it, her personality flip-flopped in between episodes like a motherfricker.
See posts like
and while those aspects of her personality could make a good character on their own, they're not consistent. Sometimes Lapis is a moody b***h who only tolerates Steven, but other times she gets along great with anyone. Sometimes she has a sense of humor and other times she's the straight man of a routine, never smiling. And you can't tell me that was intentional because no other character is this way in the damn show. Not even fricking Bismuth who had less screentime than her.
Definitely a schizo. But what can you expect from a Lapis fan, they have to be one to like her.
lapiven shippers and spinelgays are the pests of SU
>the only conventionally attractive gem
Bullshit, Peridot and her huge round ass is WAY hotter than Lapis, with sexy sexy Spinel in close second. Hell, I'd say even Pearl is hotter. She's got that nervous single mom energy that just makes me want to tongue-punch her log cutter.
And holy shit, don't even get me started on Opal.
You know I was going to post Enid from OK KO but I just realized that entire show looks like it was drawn by a third grader.