ITT Characters they can't use anymore

You gotta wonder if they named that character "Alice" since it's one of the most stereotypical troony names

Alice is a stereotypical girl name but I've hardly seen any trannies use it
It's because the majority of mtfs want lavish attention and special uniqueness, whereas most ftms just want to pass as male and settle into society.

Social moron armchair psychology is one of my favorite features of this website. Thank you.

It's not a pattern, you're making assumptions about men seeing the grass greener and women being attention seeking. Men as attention seekers and women as seeing men as advantaged are left out of the equation, something you can also use to invalidate trans trenders. There's no depth to what you're saying, you have an impression and now you can't state it as fact without consequence on the anonymous social moron site.

"Noticing patterns" is a lot more sophisticated sounding than "baselessly theorizing on a subject im unfamiliar with and have at best secondary information on"

And it helps when it's based on good information and a sample size that makes sense and not just memes based on pronouns in profile twitter furries. It's like if I were to make an assertion on general sexuality using only memes about deviant art, I'd waste my time with hypothesizing around how much people like vote and why that is. Most discussion here would he useless because from the start the sample size is third hand and skewed.

But you aren't just noticing self reports you're noticing the loudest, obvious, and memorable self reporters based on a sample size of social media posters. This thread of "why are their names funny" hasn't posed any names or real examples. I haven't seen any Luster Diamond Honey type names so I can only assume you're conflating screen names with their actual names. They may be cool or pretty names, but more often it's like Ellen to Elliot.

>Trans people are just, like, a parody, mang.
Whoah.

>You have to transition to be a trans expert
JUST

That's not what that anon is implying. In casual conversation we apply meme knowledge based on what we've seen on social media. Treating that as anything but social moron armchair psychology exposes the want to come to that consensus based on that shallow information. It's better to go deeper and use studies or sample sizes that include people who don't put pronouns in bio or have twitter accounts at all.

Pretty much this. Posting with even the modifier of "from what I've seen" still needs to come with something to back that up when it's as crazy as "from what I've seen, men become trans when they think that grass is greener on the other side" without even applying that to women going trans, makes it even more wild. It exposes more about the assumptions you're making about people than it is anything you're neutrally observing. You don't see MtF trans saying "yeah I just wanted a man to provide for me and for dudes to get the door" so it's an assumption trying to pass as something observed.

Akshually hes called "Robin" because Batman saved him from a life of crime, his name is a reminder he wont do no more robin' anymore.

Source: i have seen every george clooney batman movie and several meme pages

The incel to troony pipeline. They get warped with loneliness and sadness until they decide to become the GF. That's what all these """Transbians""" are about.

I do think both FtM and MtF are both green grassing through. FtMs are always regret posting about how nobody cares about them and it's impossible to make friends.

>FtMs are always regret posting about how nobody cares about them and it's impossible to make friends.
To elaborate, FtMs often seem to be running from being sexualized or expected to reproduce or think that life as a man will be nothing but their sexist mental stereotypes about unearned confidence and society bending over and offering itself up just because you're male.

>what is it based on that you can show us? Do you have one fact?
Again: I have reality. Years of careful observation of reality. It just so happens anytime an e-celeb I follow troons out, it was obvious from a mile away because they'd RP as a fricking lesbian MILF their DnD sessions and shit. Just as an easy example.

If you're gonna spew about MUH STUDIES and MUH SOURCES you can shut the frick up and save us both some time.

Not that guy, but if experience and observations don't count for anything, wouldn't that then mean that documented evidence is therefore rendered invalid because those things are compilations of experiences and observations?

You're a dishonest piece of shit. All social/psychological science is deeply political. What I can point at is how often young troons have about 2-3 other mental illnesses and then they get treated for gender dysphoria as if it'll solve all their other issues. There's SHITTONS of data about that now.

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Your theory....is based on memes? Thats not credible. Get away from me.

>memes
No, literal directly observed life experience.

>All social/psychological science is deeply political. What I can point at is how often young troons have about 2-3 other mental illnesses and then they get treated for gender dysphoria as if it'll solve all their other issues. There's SHITTONS of data about that now.
So then post some rather than having a meltie over the possibility someone else might do it. You're just screaming into the void rather than using the one thing that ever has any hope of convincing people.

>no direct answer, just use "muh Amerimutt memes"

You are stupid. There's really no point in getting into it. If you're such a gorilla moron Black person that you don't understand why

Not that guy, but if experience and observations don't count for anything, wouldn't that then mean that documented evidence is therefore rendered invalid because those things are compilations of experiences and observations?

is an incredibly stupid thing to waste your time writing, and believe that random anecdotal evidence is equivalent to elaborate studies, then you are too stupid to talk to. I would tell you to have a nice day but you exist to be a Walmart greeter, pay taxes and be something for parents to point at and tell their kids "look, that's a moron, you don't ever want to be as stupid as that dumb motherfricker."

It's not meant to be an argument, I am making fun of you for being a moron.

>no direct answer, just use "muh Amerimutt memes"

>you can't have a solid outlook on things because you aren't sharing your experiences with others and compiling the data!
Gee, guess that means nobody can be empathetic whatsoever because they aren't sharing their life's experience with several others to make sure their senses all align

>Wow so theyre in the same boat as modern men, what a shock
That's the thing. They transition and realize the grass wasn't even REMOTELY greener and realize all they did was riup up their pussy pass. It proves they were hoping life as a man is better/easier.

>The incel to troony pipeline
Meaning and referencing what series of facts you can objectively demonstrate?

>Meaning and referencing what series of facts you can objectively demonstrate?
All the obvious AGPs who have pornbrain. All the cartoonish non-passing sexist caricature-type troons. These are men hoping that as a woman, they can get laid and LARP as a sexist fantasy.

Transmaxxing is a newer meme and it's specific to niche internet culture. It doesn't make sense to bring that up when addressing MtF broadly unless you're going to make it clear that that's an example you are pulling from.

I don't know what you two are arguing about, I just find it entertaining you would dismiss any sort of academic studies that demonstrate something. The troon epidemic is a forked problem anyway. It's everything from over-exposure to porn as you describe, to womens' birth control in the water supply, to society stomping on men in the legal system and pop culture.

>Nope. I'm saying the vast vast majority of troons are just deeply sick
An assumption based purely on your emotions.

>It's a demographic, but it's a new online one that actually is full of trenders.
Does any of that change the relevance? No. You're just trying to deflect.

Comorbid conditions are common, what us supposed to be unusual or even disqualifying about them? It stands to reason youd have many issues at once.

> It stands to reason youd have many issues at once.
Yeah but... let's say you have BPD, Autism and Depression..... Do you think HRT moodswings or painful body mutilation surgery are gonna make it easier to carry those other burdens? Do you think somebody with severe social anxiety really needs to add the layer of "passing" and being "misgendered" to their issues?

Anon, trenders existing at all almost invalidates the entire thing. It used to be less than 1% of people. Perhaps those people are trenders too.

Yes but the true groomers are the people teaching kids to be left handed instead of beating that sin out of them. Now its trendy to be left handed and we're up to ears in trenderhanders. The normal number has been eclipsed by all these fakes invalidating the whole concept.

>incel to troony pipeline
I wonder why people never consider the reverse (that being trans predisposing you to being an incel)

You'd think they'd be able to find common ground instead of hating each other then, like with femcels

They are not. Because thats made up, id like to invite you to prove it or even just source it to whoever lied to you initially.

>Full on no true scottsman
I accept your concesion.

ehere the frick do you think we are, anon? everything is thread is 100% observation none of us have any qualifications
if you didn't wanna see it you shouldn't have entered the designated bait thread

anon the post you're replying to literally never said any of this you just invented a guy in your head to get angry over

That was a joke?

"It is unspeakably cruel for women to expect men to fall in line in professional spaces where they wear makeup that simulate sex". Still better than "men castrate themselves like the advisers of royalty before for power".

Its somewhat generational, alice in wonderland was a unisex story boys and girls were both shown growing up and it has an innocent female lead being lead into a strange world. Being trans is very strange and since the new name is new, you dont have much associated with it to begin with. So alice is something a lot of gen x and boomer trans women reached for. But its more stereotype than statistic. The equvivalent for ftms is something like Aiden, Jayden, Braydon or Cedar.

The stereotype is that ftms are named like a suburban mom named their specialest little man ever, mtfs are named like a suburban mom writing a self insert YA witch character

Sounds like you didn't get smacked enough as a kid and that's why you're this moronic

It's always the same hysterical gays that oppose beatings, just look at the posts here. I'm not partial to blind violence either, but if reasonable beatings do anything it's not make complete pussies out of men.
We need Stalin's beatings.

Funny you say that, because animals don't always associate something they were doing with negative feelings, which you equated to what children do. Sometimes, perhaps even often, they associate the causer of the negative feelings with those negative feelings.

>ITT South Americans and rednecks justifying child abuse
You are all literally subhuman filth.
>inb4 you just weren’t spanked maaan
I promise you, I was hit more than you homosexuals ever were. I thank god none of you will breed.

Classist.

We have the lowest crime rates in human history, world wide. Stop watching the news, they're lying to get the ad revenue from people trying to sell you bunkers and canned beans.

Speaking of corporate influence, I'm wondering if there hasn't been a concentrated effort to make parents pushovers so they'll buy whatever their kids want. Western science is just as corrupted with capitalism as any other facet of our society, contrary to what boot-licking socdems/American liberals claim. Ah but no, it's just the political "other" that's the problem. It can't possibly be that the bourgeoisie find and exploit any political "side", no way.

>subhuman communist who worships Stalin likes the idea of smacking kids around
What a shock.

And I'm sure afterwards you became a lovely little well behaved boy and never caused you mom any more problems of course?

Guessing you kept touching the hot stove well into your teens.

>after explaining that this will be their consequence if they continue to refuse to change their behavior.
This is like putting duct tape over a broken window, it's not going to fix the problem it'll just be a temporary solution. The kid might "behave" for the time being out of fear of being in pain, but they aren't going to fundamentally learn why their actions are wrong and change their behavior internally, they're just going to figure "I'm not allowed to misbehave this way in front of authority figures lest I get painful punishment"

>mildly embarrasing
Maybe on the other guys end but for a kid that can be traumatizing as it shows a lack of respect given to them by their parents, and if their parents don't respect them then why should they respect their parents? In my personal experience, I remember the time my dad pulled my pants down in a Barnes and Noble when I was like 6ish? Yeah, hilarious to him and I'm sure anyone else who reads hears it now, but I still remember that and still respect my dad less because of it all these years later

>my dad pulled my pants down in a Barnes and Noble when I was like 6

Again, hilarious to degenerate Cinemaphile users, but as a kid your father doing something like that for nothing but his own amusement changes your perspective of him

>malding about a prank
Guess two things stopped growing when you were six.

>a proper spanking doesn't hurt
You've clearly never taken a dozen lashes on the ass with a leather belt.

>child is beating up another kid on the playground
>that's it Timmy, I'm gonna call the therapist
>just you wait, once we get an appointment booked you'll know what you're doing is wrong
>Ahhh Dr. Shekelbergstein is always so busy!

>therapy
Hundreds of dollars.
>a belt
$14

Maybe you shouldn't have kids if you're poor.

Wow, sounds like something has gone horrendously wrong with our economic system when it's easier and cheaper for you to be a bad parent and a bad person rather than actually trying, sounds like we need a new one I'd say

You shouldn't have kids if you aren't smart enough to talk to them. They should trust YOU, respect YOU and look to YOU in their times of need. You shouldn't have to pawn your kids off to a therapist or counselor.

How does someone get this complacent with being slapped around? Would your dad sneak into your room at night and "physically correct" you?

I wouldn't say it necessarily requires corporal punishment, but that the use can be more effective when used on young kids compared to older ones. A two year old being a little shit might just need one swat on their ass, and they will likely never act out poorly again. Whereas doing that to an eight year old is likelier to make the kid more rotten because they managed to get to a point where they truly believed being a shithead was acceptable until one day their parents showed them it wasn't. The bottom line is that kids need to learn asap that they can and will get some kind of punishment if they don't behave when they're still at their most malleable, whereas it gets nigh on impossible to instill values when they're at an age that a lot of their future identity is already being cemented.

While Pete's son respects his father, Pete's wife is with Goofy.

Bullying is a means of correcting antisocial behavior. Granted it almost always goes too far but the answer shouldn't be to completely remove it but rather moderate it, there is no reason why mild bullying couldn't be allowed what needs to be stopped is having it escalate to violence.

Tried looking it up, comic is about a year old and doesn't have much of a backlog?
And you're waifuing these characters already?
I don't blame you, Digital Circus proves people will jump after less

Look at the photo, the stepbrother banged his wife. I mistook it for an incest joke at first.

It's two unrelated jokes. The first one is making fun of the dove for being so evangelical she's wearing a chastity belt for non-fetish reasons and the second is a cuckolding joke

the only ones that are dead are sprite comics, all all of the other categories are alive and well.
please forgive me!! and tails gets trolled are ongoing and they hit most of those

So knowledge of tomatoes would prevent a killer in the making from damnation?

You'd sooner trust a chef to make you a meal than some random person off the street.

Not nearly as many as there used to be. Sure, people will sexualize characters from current cartoons, but half the time those characters barely have any curves to them

Not nearly as much as there used to be that they're virtually nonexistent

I never said they were completely absent. The point is that they shouldn't be treated as problem because they never were. Why are you moving the goalpost like this?

Im reframing your point to illustrate what i think is a flaw in your argument, maybe 2.

1. If sexy characters in cartoons are practically nonexistant then is the internet so full of sexualizations of these cartoon characters? They cant not be sexy if the general response is sexualization.
2. Your argument indicates that there is a desirable number of sexy cartoon characters but you wont put the number to words because itll sound silly

Close! I dont think a character needs to be designed to be sexy to be sexy, i think they just need to be sexualized. See the onceler for deets.

Pal, people will sexualize literal blobs and blocks if they can feel up to drawing such shapes with curves. That in no way implies that a square (or a box if you want to get three dimensional) is inherently sexual looking, it just means that some people will apply sexiness to things for a number of reasons. Remember, this is the very website where a man admitted to hundreds of anonymous users that he finds floor tiles arousing.

It's more than that in a lot of cases. Some characters are liked for being the kind of woman (or man) that tics all the boxes for people, hence why various cartoon and anime girls are so popular. Sure, you can boil it down to them just being shapes on paper/pixels on a screen, but there's still more going on than just neurons activating over shapes

My homie there's porn of the ghosts from pacman. Rule 34 exists for a reason. The existence of people who will coom to a character does not imply the character is sexy.

I'm not saying take my word for it. I'm saying pick up a spoon and shovel the data into your wienerhole.

Its trans derangement syndrome not unique to the right.

My favorite diogenes story was when he trolled plato's definition of man as a featherless biped by throwing a crude map showing where to find chickens at him

Go find out for yourself moron. I'm not doing you any more favors.

>twitter accounts
Of course they have twitter. What a moronic deflection. Go look at the data for yourself. Avail yourself. I've led you tot he water but cannot force you to drink.

I'm not spoonfeeding you. You can copy paste the keywords I furnished you with into your search engine of choice.

You gave me a treasure map to fantasia written in crayon and told me the blue bits are water.

Link some.

post links

You are a baby man.

A baby man in his doo doo palace of lies.

By your logic of the silent majority, would it not benefit them to post some actual citations?

I think it's safe to say by not posting anything easily accessible you've dwindled the amount of people who might hear you out from "some" to "zero." The couple hundred butthurt replies when called out over this also probably don't help. But in your case it might just be safer to pretend rather than risk you shooting up a mosque.

Id actually just prefer to have you make specific claims followed by a direct citation so the conversation is focused on the issues and not on the assumption that the whole corpus of bill board's on twitter roundly justifies any and every claim you could care to make.

Sorry i was just mocking you for citing a twitter account and someone called billboard chris.

>legbutt

Nope. That's on you. If you want to learn, you can feed yourself lil' piggy. Trough's over there.

>Switching to flirtatious behavior in an attempt to make me lash out or look gay
Classic. You're out of cards.

This. People's acceptance of left handedness is hypnotizing them into becoming left handed. Keep that shit at home, it won't be tolerated.

>giving troony kids special treatment
>forcing all the kids through education that muddies basic biological truth
Dude, if I was a neglected 7 year old and I saw how much attention little troony kids get? I'd be jumping onboard just to get sparkly stickers to put on my pencilcase. Much less all the more complex social reasons that happen later.

>There's no proof that you only suddenly feel like a woman in adulthood with no such feelings in childhood.
There is no such thing as "feeling like a woman". You have the chromosomes you have and the you have the personality and interests that you have.

In order to "feel like a woman" one must think there are things and feelings that are woman only but also have these feelings without any real lived experience. It's nonsense.
>Trannies have been reporting and going to therapy for this shit that's been going on since before adulthood and before it was acceptable to the point that teachers would ever bring it up in a classroom.
Literally not relevant. People also report being dinosaurs when they're young. My little brother thought he was a Kaiju. He would crab walk around the playground screeching like Destoroyah.

Adults can do what they want. I think it's probably also okay to let your son dress in frilly pinks. What's not okay is when you demand others play along with a fantasy or deny reality. Be a boy named "Billy" who wears pink and loves nail polish. Use normal pronouns. Stop trespassing onto other people's reality. Your need to piss in a pink room next to real women doesn't override their right to have bioligically limited spaces.

No because pedos are immoral on a level beyond the religious and spiritual. Most culture understand consent and sexual trauma. It's a basic human truth akin to gender reality.

So is the flawed logic of assuming every moral issue is because of religion.

I don't care if people legally get their name changed, so why would I care if they change their pronouns?

No you don't have me confused. You just think there's "authentic" troons when there's no such thing and such a thing cannot even logically be possible. ALL trans people are self-hating gays, gender-non conformers, grooming victims or dishonest fetishists.

There is nothing else to it and every argument that would try to rebutt this stance has to accomplish sisyphean tasks like saying a boy liking pink and wanting to suck dicks makes him a girl and not just a femme gay.

>ALL trans people are self-hating gays, gender-non conformers, grooming victims or dishonest fetishists.
You say this like it's a gotcha but most trans people self-identify as gender-non conforming.

>phsyical and mental security override your mental illness
So then why is it acceptable to attack pedos, but then decry muslims attacking those that morally offend them?

>There is no such thing as "feeling like a woman".
Dresses arent a function of biology so gravitating towards those arent chromosome based either way.

>Literally not relevant.
It's relevant because you're saying that they're all trenders, either lonely incels or gets who want attention. This all operates under new things like trans acceptance in classrooms and incel discord groups being the only influences in trans people.

>Bad culture exist
Who decides which are good?

If people change, what is pro-social or pro-human?

Being taken in by moronic ideas isn't a change?

Does that mean that no matter what happens to a human, its always a human? No matter how disfigured, contorted, or distorted it gets?

Why do you want me to?

How am I fixated on pedos if you steered the conversation back to it after the question of people changing?

Yes. That was an inflammatory inquiry meant to dig at

Adults can do what they want. I think it's probably also okay to let your son dress in frilly pinks. What's not okay is when you demand others play along with a fantasy or deny reality. Be a boy named "Billy" who wears pink and loves nail polish. Use normal pronouns. Stop trespassing onto other people's reality. Your need to piss in a pink room next to real women doesn't override their right to have bioligically limited spaces.

's declaration that the need to piss in a pink room next to real women doesn't override their right to have bioligically limited spaces. A jab if you will at favoring the realities of some over others.

No you don't have me confused. You just think there's "authentic" troons when there's no such thing and such a thing cannot even logically be possible. ALL trans people are self-hating gays, gender-non conformers, grooming victims or dishonest fetishists.

There is nothing else to it and every argument that would try to rebutt this stance has to accomplish sisyphean tasks like saying a boy liking pink and wanting to suck dicks makes him a girl and not just a femme gay.

No, you're completely ignoring what goes on. If a young boy expresses interest in traditionally female interests nowadays, they get pushed into the troony pipeline. Same for young girls who like being muddy and T-Rex toys.

Trans idealogy is hatefully regressive gender roles nonsense that literally genocides gays. Most trannies turn out gay if they just cope with the dysphoria until they're older. They're literally hunting out future gays and sterilizing them.

Cope as much as you want, there are girls who had their breasts zippered at 16 who still have complications and bleeding from the procedure half a decade later. People brought in and medicated just because they're unconfortable and confused.

>LINKS AND PROOF
Google the terms I told you to google homosexual

>I've already told you I've seen regret and malpractice cases
Yeah because we do this shit to minors. It's not ok.
>The fact that you think that's supposed to make me believe your entire moron narrative shows you really are a social moron.
No you're just unwilling to accept that it's causing extreme harm and is LITERAL anti-gay genocide. You're taking all the gay kids and telling them they aren't a boykissing boy, they're actually a girl and that's why they want to kiss boys.

sterilizing all the gays you can convince to take drugs that chemically castrate them is a pretty hardcore genocide but yeah it's not a violent active one, it's a meta genocide.

>Trans idealogy is hatefully regressive gender roles nonsense that literally genocides gays.
Gays left GAG because the GOP was supporting genocide of gays through DeSantis who slammed Trump for being too pro-gay by offering condolences to the Pulse shooting and topping it off with pro-DeSantis, pro-nazi imagery. "Groomer" isn't what they're just calling people who talk about gender shit in a classroom, they're talking about all gays. You having some sort of special sensitivity that makes it so you see "trans ideology" as hateful and genocidal should have you calling every Republican a nazi but you're far from that. You have a fun narrative that cuts around real hate and functions off braindead and unsubstantiated memes.

>I've already told you I've seen regret and malpractice cases
Yeah because we do this shit to minors. It's not ok.
>The fact that you think that's supposed to make me believe your entire moron narrative shows you really are a social moron.
No you're just unwilling to accept that it's causing extreme harm and is LITERAL anti-gay genocide. You're taking all the gay kids and telling them they aren't a boykissing boy, they're actually a girl and that's why they want to kiss boys.

Assuming you aren't trolling, you are an interesting case. We all have our thresholds for what we tolerate and what gets us going and social media has warped our perspectives about what big things are happening. This reluctance of yours to cite studies and leaning on cherry picked gag info all while saying all trans people aren't real shows why you accept these narratives so easily. In a case like this it isn't really about grooming, it isn't about kids, it's about a lack of understanding about what trannies are and a complete ignoring of decades of research and cases from decades before what you're calling grooming today.

>Without all the current social incentives and bioligical influences of today, the rate of troon trend was less than 1%
The rate of homosexuals was once just as small because of societal circumstances, but that doesn't make it any less valid

DAMMIT, HEAVY! FRICK OFF!
You. Are. Dead!

Your 4D chess plan was to sit and argue with a bunch of people you decided weren't going to listen to you anyway for 500 replies?