ITT: Morals or motivations that make no fricking sense.

ITT: Morals or motivations that make no fricking sense.

Bismuth being treated like an extremist for making a weapon for a still on-going war is bizarre.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It makes sense in the context of the protagonist wanting to go for pacifism ahead of violence. In the overall context of the war assuming that the protagonist never had the desire to not have gems get shattered, yeah it'd be pretty bizarre.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Wants to kill the oppressors
    >Gets treated as the bad guy

    Welcome to the club partner

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      well he's also working as a paid hitman for one of those oppressors so let's not pretend his intentions are entirely noble. far be it from me to defend Helluva Boss' writing but even outside of the persecuting yaoigay gaze Striker is genuinely just a bit of a c**t

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      i hate how all of these goddamn characters look the same. you're in the underworld and you can't come up with shit besides red imps?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't the whole point of Helluva Boss focusing on the imps while Hasbin Hotel focuses on the demons? Haven't you thought that they might look similar because they're the same species.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Forgiving the diamonds even though they probably killed billions of sentient lives.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The series finale was 5 years ago and people still think the Diamonds were forgiven. How stupid can you be.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anything less than death or torture for their crimes is forgiveness.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        they are simply too powerful to punish formally, and peace hinges on thier good graces

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The weapon isn't dangerous, the ideal behind it is. With that ideal being "everyone on the opposing side must be irreversibly destroyed"
    The fact that a weapon had to be invented for it prob meant most losers on the battlefield were just captured and imprisoned beforehand instead of being shattered

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >prob meant most losers on the battlefield were just captured and imprisoned
      But the entire core of the planet is made up of gem shards, so shattering was absolutely possible. And it was probably more possible on the Empire's side since it's implied this is a new idea by Bismuth and since most of the dead gem bodies found around Earth would be part of Pink Diamond's clan.

      So one side was basically getting nuked to hell and back, and then finally discovered how to use nukes and was told by someone who wasn't in the war, "This isn't the way!". I mean, yeah, "only winning move not to play" etc., but Bismuth is obviously entering her Cold War phase. She just wants the option to shatter if the other side is going to keep threatening them with that same tactic.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The diamonds had a weapon of mass destruction that the rest of the population didn't know about, and once it was used the war was over.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"everyone on the opposing side must be irreversibly destroyed"
      I'm coming around to that way of thinking.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people STILL
    >S
    >T
    >I
    >L
    >L
    >make this argument about the same show where Peridot is a thing
    thank god I will never be this moronic

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ignoring the pacifism/extremism debate, wasn't Bismuth kind of driven insane by PTSD? Like, my impression was that Steven had to lock her back up because it turned out she wasn't fit to participate in peacetime society anymore.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you watch the show, it's revealed that she was pitching said weapon to [functionally] a close relative of the people she intended to kill. The pacifism thing can still be a factor but it takes a major backseat to the fact that Rose was actually Pink Diamond.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was a shit weapon that was only useful for an immobile target, otherwise an incapacitated enemy. Executing people like that would have ensured the entire planet gets nuked and written off as a lost cause. Bimsuth was a good antagonist, but an antagonist, nonetheless.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bismuth was treated like an extremist because she had a homie moment and tried to murder a little boy.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gems don't really die, she made a weapon to really for real real kill gems, that's pretty shocking to said near-immortal gems. Please stop being moronic.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's just a pile driver

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bismuth committed the crime of actually wanting to win, while Rose just wanted the war to tire everyone out.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was a weapon of execution, not of war. The fact it was slow and clunky made it clear that it had no battlefield capability compared to their natural constructs. Even ignoring the whole reveal of Rose being a Diamond she wanted to shatter, it's pretty clear that Bismuth was just becoming vicious and vengeful of a prolonged war. Her gamechanger only changed that a relatively bloodless conflict would now demand blood whenever she rolled out her analizer.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It wouldnt do shit to a diamond based on Blue Diamond tanking everything they threw at her

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