Finale was great and overall it wasn't a bad movie
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Literally nothing, it's all dogshit.
Then what are you even doing here?
When will the contrarians give up and admit it was a better movie than any of the prequels and a serviceable first installment to the ST before Rian shat the bed?
everyone agrees that Ep VII was an okay movie
but better than RotJ? Hell no
RotS**
>better movie than any of the prequels
It was so boring I never bothered with the rest of the trilogy.
No, it was fricking bad, and stop pretending it was "okay" or "serviceable". This flick had no rewatch value.
No, it was a straight up rip-off of Episode 4.
>starts on/above desert planet
>resistence/rebel member is attacked by first-order/empire
>gives data drive to a droid (bb8/r2d2) to deliver
>poe/leia gets captured by big bad masked firstorder/empire man (kylo/vader)
>meet hero on the same desert planet (rey/luke)
>somehow they're a good pilot despite living their whole lives on a remote desert planet
>hero meets droid with data and agrees to help them deliver it
>end up running into an old veteran hero (han/ben)
>old veteran hero ends up getting killed by big bad masked first-order/empire man because they have history between each other
>new plucky hero eventually goes to resistence/rebel base to destroy massive laser superweapon (death-star/starkiller base)
>plucky young hero somehow is able to use the force somehow
>plucky young hero ends up defeating big bad, but not killing them
The one thing I will say Disney SW has over prequels or OT is that the visuals are objectively much better (thanks to more modern cgi and film making + disney billions), along with better dialog-delivery / acting (doesn't use george's technobabble writing or wooden directing).
>dude movies are just their basic plot beats
You know Star Wars itself is a ripoff of a bunch of other properties right
the fact that they were so blatant about remaking a film in the same series is the issue.
They could have literally changed a couple things such as the first-order winning in the first film to make the audience excited for the next film, ray start off as the stormtrooper instead of poe or anything else to make it even remotely different, but they decided to do a complete rehash.
Yeah let's end the first movie on a depressing note to get people excited about the future of Star Wars, I'm sure that's a great idea
that was just an example of something they could have done instead moron, doesn't mean it's a good idea, they should have just done something else
>they should have done something else because I think I'm intelligent for noticing there was an X-Wing and Death Star in the movie
Yeah, what a catastrophe, $2 billion+ gross, still the highest grossing film in the USA, unanimous critical and fan praise, what a disaster of a film
then why do people hate the film?
Autismos online aren't representative of the whole. Everyone loved TFA upon release, some people like it less in retrospect because they didn't like the succeeding films but it was by no means a Phantom Menace situation where the movie became a punching bag almost immediately after release
Stfu it's the same fricking movie
Are Han Solo and Ben Kenobi the same character because they both serve the mentor role?
Not a god damn thing.
>When will the contrarians give up and admit it was a better movie than any of the prequels and a serviceable first installment to the ST before Rian shat the bed?
lol, lmao even, fricking moron
>everyone agrees that Ep VII was an okay movie
Eat shit, it was awful.
It was bad, but was considered excusable given that they were "setting up". (It's funny how A New Hope doesn't need this excuse.) The set up never paid off so it's just bad.
Force awakens was already but made utter shit because the follow up completely makes it irrelevant
you were tricked into thinking it's ok because harrison ford carries the shit out of it harder than raul julia tried to carry street fighter
Best SW movie that isn't the OT.
welp that is because they used the Krull/7 samurai formula where every member dies until the last
star wars have always been very akira kurosawasque
Clones came ready-baked with Jango Fett's skill and abilities, Stormtroopers are basically cannon fodder; minimal training and basic gear but there's an absolute frickton of them to make up for it; think Soviet conscripts during WW2
Why Palpatine stopped the production of clones? a fricking Clone Squad literally can made up for a fricking Stormtrooper Battalion.
Statements a fricking padawan killed a shitton of 501 Legion Clones that are literally even better quality clones than the normal clones
jango clones were overkill, expensive to replace and took too long to replace for what is effectively a galaxy-wide occupation.
its easier to get conscripts to defend their own planet than manufacture an army of that size again
I don’t get it. Why didn’t the Empire just force the kaminoans to continue making Clone Troopers? Why would they care about budgetary concerns?
it takes 10 years to clone a new batch. why not use people from planets you've conquered to defend themselves for free? he also makes new clones that are shittier than the jango ones
Jango code was finite
The Clone Wars finale was great, The Mandalorian was good, The Bad Batch was alright, Rogue One was alright.
1. It takes 10 years to produce clone troopers.
2. Jango's genetic material deteriorated.
3. It is expensive.
4. It is not needed, the war is over, there is no one to fight anymore, the Empire needs a police force.
5. Loyalty of actual Imperial citizens, who have personal interest in the Empire's well being, who have families, who enlist willfully - is greater than any programming that clones were subjugated to, and often broke off of it, having their loyalties to their immediate COs (the Jedi) and their brothers.
6. Imperial citizens are already 18 y.o., they are ready to soldier on - they just need minimal training and weapons.
7. The clones will realize, sooner or later, that they were used and discarded, they were manipulated and lied to. The clones, much like the CIS, were a liability, a lose end for Palpatine to cut.
Because Emperor Palpatine realized that having their entire military force be produced by one planet was a huge misstep and let said one planet hold on to too much power over his shiny new galactic empire.
the kaminaons rebelled and made a new batch of clones to take on the empire
the empire sent in the 501st to essentially exerminatus Kamino to make sure it never happens again and with it the ability to make clones
Natural-born people dying in wars make Sheev's dark-side boner harder.
Rogue One
Mandalorian
Rebels the final two seasons.
Like half of Boba Fett and Obi Wan.
I wonder how many Storm Trooper legions just started using whatever equipment they could find, maybe some of them preferred actually being able to see with different helmets or something.
Like how Thrawn started using Imperial Army guys more often during the Thrawn campaign.
the problem with R1 is that the promotional material that was released wasnt in the movie.
I would literally pay to see the "snyder cut" of Rogue one.
the stormtroopers kneedeep in crystal blue water in front of a tropical thunderstorm, the "eclipse" as the death star blocks out the sun. the death troopers storming the beach like seal team 6. the "heroic" interpretation of the imperial march from the trailer. all of that please.
Stormtroopers were actually competent in a new hope.
All their ground missions were successes except when they let Luke and friends escape the Death Star so they could find the rebel base.
in anh, vader and tarkin want them to flee to the rebel base so they can destroy it.
in esb, vader wants leia and chewie alive to bait skywalker into joining the emperor.
in rotj, the imperials get caught in their hubris and the back door of their installation is surrounded by locals and they are divided up and destroyed.
rotj is definitely the hardest to defend but if you don't pick up on it during the other two, then you didn't even pay attention
yeah i like it alright
Re-releasing in IMAX next Friday.
>liberals inherit fool proof franchise that even if you tried your hardest to frick it up there's no way you could
>they frick it up
incredible
>least star wars like film is best star wars film
Makes you think
Rogue One is the only Disneyshit I consider canon, though it's not without its flaws.
Rogue One is a wikigay fanboy's understanding of Star Wars, someone who prefers to fill in wookieepedia articles about the backstory of the Death Star's exhaust port because they're incapable of understanding the thematic and spiritual intentions of its role in the original film
I liked the exhaust port more when it was a spy operation that stole the plans, then intelligent people analyzed them and found a weakness even if it was very minor. It's more moronic to think they purposefully designed the exhaust port so the rebels could blow it up later especially when it had zero chance of success if Luke and Obi-wan hadn't shown up.
>Darth Vader quips now!?