>composer at the absolute lowest she's ever been >has to conduct for a room full of nerds and geeks >a single tear escapes her eye as it's revealed what abomination she is about to perform... >Tár (Music from and Inspired by the Motion Picture)
They gave her a click track. Did you miss her long answer about her control of timing being central to her conducting, or her prized annotated score sheets she was protective of?
After reading other people's reviews online, I was kinda surprised everyone said she was "obviously dislikable, immediately, etc". I identified a lot with her and didn't think the film really portrayed her in a distinctly negative light. Really the only objective bad thing she did was taunting Krista into killing herself. And even then it was implied everything she did was indirect. Basically the same thing a lot of those types of people would do to someone if they disliked them for any reason
>same thing a lot of those types of people would do to someone if they disliked them for any reason
I mean, I've had a professor refuse to write me a letter of recommendation before. It was in a creative field, where basically when you graduate, you're in competition with your professors. I didn't kill myself
I guess it wasn't really a refusal, but >"I'll be putting my own name on the line, so I'll need to know how you have progressed and what your work is looking like since the class you took with me"
Tbf it makes sense, he hadn't seen my work in a year and half or so. But I chose to get other professors who I had worked more closely with--and were pretty squarely in my ring--to write them (and actually were more established and successful than the other guy lel)
Didnt end up getting in, but it was like the 3rd best school in the US for a masters in that field, so whatever
>"I'll be putting my own name on the line, so I'll need to know how you have progressed and what your work is looking like since the class you took with me"
Completely reasonable tbh.
Yeah, its just kind of the way he said it, like it was a way out. If that was truly the reason he should have approached it in a more friendly manner. Its unusual to be that "blunt" in a small field where you, even as a prof, could be relying on the student for exhibitions/nominations in 10 or 15 years. The successful and pragmatic people make as many friends as possible and are as non-confrontational as possible. There were other weird af things he did that also formed this opinion of him.
We were extremely different ideologically but I took like 3 classes with him for some reason lol. Part of me enjoyed it maybe
While he was being foolish, and he betrays his own sentiment by calling her a b***h as he leaves, she did overdo her point by running him into the ground over and over when she didn't need to be so caustic, a middle ground might have taught the student much more. Which she was ostensibly there to do, give a master's class.
I left my wife for a younger piece who wasn't actually interested outside of my own head
I've also burned countless bridges and live in relative solitude doing work below my perceived station
this movie is a 10/10 for me
Theres like a 80% of this teaser trailer that isn't in the film. It seems like a whole different vibe too, like way more Kubrick-esque. Reminds me of Under the Skin
Would be interesting to get a Directors Cut or deleted scenes or something
>was not expecting slight psychological horror elements >actually felt very nervous when she walked into the basement of what she thought was the cellist's building
I'm acting like Tár (2022) right now while listening to Borislav Slavov's cello combat theme for D:OS2. Shit story but great soundtrack, varied gameplay.
Are you referring to the house she retreats to at the end of the film? If so that's clearly her former childhood home that she co-owns with her brother, who resides there.
Hmm I've only seen it the once and can't remember. If I was to speculate it's a "studio" or creative space which she also uses to take her groomees to so they could eat her pussy in privacy.
Lmao why do you morons insist she fricks any of them? Its never shown. Her sin is stealing their ideas to compose her no 5. symphony. That's all it is. Its not clear whether there was a sexual relationship with any of these social climbers.
>Lmao why do you morons insist she fricks any of them?
Because it's consistent with her behaviour.
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What behaviour? The film literally shows you how informattion gets distorted for manipulation. Her tiff at the beginning with the gay nig has now morphed into something sexual and is used as a base to inform her cancellation. Why would you trust what the morons who are cancelling her believe when they are reading the twitter messages written by her disgruntled PA?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>What behaviour?
Her reaction when her former protege kills herself.
Her pursuing a celloist she's clearly attracted to and advancing her based on that attraction.
Her co-conductor's insinuations.
Her visiting a brothel.
And just in general her demeanour. >Her tiff at the beginning with the gay nig has now morphed into something sexual and is used as a base to inform her cancellation.
The dead protege's parents suing her is basically the driving force behind that. That's just kindling on a fire that's already blazing.
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Anonymous
Her reaction doesn't say anything sexual? She could be guilty of anything, it doesn't have to be sexual.
The celloist was incredibly talented and the sexual interest was obviously one-sided.
Her co-conductor was getting laid off, he could have said anything out of anger.
She visited a massage parlor not a brothel, they led her to a brothel based on the info from twitter, they obviously put two and two together and decided to oversell seeing as to how they received an exceptional customer. And its not even clear whether it was a brothel. I love how she immediately pukes at the no. 5 suggestion because she is horrified that her symphony is compared to a cheap prostitute.
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Anonymous
>Her reaction doesn't say anything sexual? She could be guilty of anything, it doesn't have to be sexual.
True, but when we see her pursuit of the celloist it's reasonable to conclude that may have happened previously. >The celloist was incredibly talented
Yes, but Lydia's sexual desire is clearly what pushes her into the front running. >the sexual interest was obviously one-sided.
Doesn't mean that she hasn't tried that before and it been reciprocated. >Her co-conductor was getting laid off, he could have said anything out of anger.
Yeah, true but again with everything we know it supports impropriety. >She visited a massage parlor not a brothel >its not even clear whether it was a brothel
It's a brothel. >I love how she immediately pukes at the no. 5 suggestion because she is horrified that her symphony is compared to a cheap prostitute.
I think there's a few allusions that could be taken from that.
There's more than enough in the film to support both perspectives, it has deliberately obscured things because it's no interested in being a straight forward 'grooming is bad' story and is interested in other complexities but even with that I've know idea how you could be perturbed by people watching it then thinking she grooms her students when there's more than enough in the film to suggest that she has. It's not a leap.
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No one even gives her a chance to defend herself. Not her partner, her company, her landlords, not even her own brother. The director is clearly showing you how she is being cancelled and emphasizing that over anything she is supposed to have done. He is telling you that what she did is not important enough to make it to the film. So why would he even make a film about cancelling someone and leave that out if he doesn't assume she is innocent? He gives so much airtime to building her up to be this creative genius and equally so to destroying that, that he doesn't have any time to verify her innocence.
5 months ago
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>No one even gives her a chance to defend herself.
Unfortunately people rarely do in these situations. You could contrast it with The Hunt, a story in which the character's innocence is established without question and yet everyone he knows, with the exception of his brother, turns on him and has no willingness to listen to his profession of innocence. Lydia could very well be innocent of impropriety, I personally don't think she is, but the film crafts a thought provoking situation in that she very well could be yet due to circumstance it's inconsequential to all involved and enough for her life to be dismantled.
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Anonymous
This one is actually more accurate than the hunt in that people have a reason to hate her. She is a rich mean b***h compare to the lovable personality created of the teacher who has no one in his hometown that defends him.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I guess but it's a deliberate choice that works with the movie's intentions.
If Hunt had done the same thing as Tar in which Lydia's innocence isn't fully established it would have completely changed the movie.
If there were ambiguity it might be hard to feel sympathetic to Lucas when the town turns on him but that we know that he is innocent it instead becomes an examination of mob mentality and how damaging an accusation can be.
With Tar it's looking at cancel culture and even though everyone doesn't have all the facts, including the audience, they are content to make definitive judgements and decisions.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>And its not even clear whether it was a brothel.
Lad, you don’t pick out your masseuse from a gallery when you go for a massage.
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She is supposed to know that because germany is similar to south asia.
>Monster Hunter
Wrong board
kek the ending caught me so offguard with that last scene
should have been Morrowind OST tbh, she could have at least walked away with some dignity. tho its probably not common enough in asia
Would you throw it all away for this Russian qt (and real life cellist) Cinemaphile?
Any woman can do anything she wants with me as long as she wears that shirt
Yeah probably
ugly asiatic mutt
no thx
musician girls are the worst wife material
>composer at the absolute lowest she's ever been
>has to conduct for a room full of nerds and geeks
>a single tear escapes her eye as it's revealed what abomination she is about to perform...
>Tár (Music from and Inspired by the Motion Picture)
no tear escaped, she was happy to conduct
>she was happy to conduct
I don't think you got the significance of her having to wear headphones.
They gave her a click track. Did you miss her long answer about her control of timing being central to her conducting, or her prized annotated score sheets she was protective of?
do you really think most of the people in this thread actually watched the movie
I would hope so, it's really good.
My second favourite thing I watched last year in what surprisingly turned out to be a pretty strong year for film.
I really liked it and I wish Blanchett had won the Oscar, even if she has won before, this was as good a performance as she'll ever have
Blue Jasmin was better
After reading other people's reviews online, I was kinda surprised everyone said she was "obviously dislikable, immediately, etc". I identified a lot with her and didn't think the film really portrayed her in a distinctly negative light. Really the only objective bad thing she did was taunting Krista into killing herself. And even then it was implied everything she did was indirect. Basically the same thing a lot of those types of people would do to someone if they disliked them for any reason
>same thing a lot of those types of people would do to someone if they disliked them for any reason
I mean, I've had a professor refuse to write me a letter of recommendation before. It was in a creative field, where basically when you graduate, you're in competition with your professors. I didn't kill myself
>I mean, I've had a professor refuse to write me a letter of recommendation before.
What was the reason they gave for refusing?
I guess it wasn't really a refusal, but
>"I'll be putting my own name on the line, so I'll need to know how you have progressed and what your work is looking like since the class you took with me"
Tbf it makes sense, he hadn't seen my work in a year and half or so. But I chose to get other professors who I had worked more closely with--and were pretty squarely in my ring--to write them (and actually were more established and successful than the other guy lel)
Didnt end up getting in, but it was like the 3rd best school in the US for a masters in that field, so whatever
>"I'll be putting my own name on the line, so I'll need to know how you have progressed and what your work is looking like since the class you took with me"
Completely reasonable tbh.
Yeah, its just kind of the way he said it, like it was a way out. If that was truly the reason he should have approached it in a more friendly manner. Its unusual to be that "blunt" in a small field where you, even as a prof, could be relying on the student for exhibitions/nominations in 10 or 15 years. The successful and pragmatic people make as many friends as possible and are as non-confrontational as possible. There were other weird af things he did that also formed this opinion of him.
We were extremely different ideologically but I took like 3 classes with him for some reason lol. Part of me enjoyed it maybe
Literally what did she do wrong?
Imagine having to deal with these people
While he was being foolish, and he betrays his own sentiment by calling her a b***h as he leaves, she did overdo her point by running him into the ground over and over when she didn't need to be so caustic, a middle ground might have taught the student much more. Which she was ostensibly there to do, give a master's class.
I wanted to watch it again a couple weeks later. That's what I consider a great film
I left my wife for a younger piece who wasn't actually interested outside of my own head
I've also burned countless bridges and live in relative solitude doing work below my perceived station
this movie is a 10/10 for me
Sounds like a skill issue
isn't everything?
I get by
>I left my wife for a younger piece who wasn't actually interested outside of my own head
Seriously?
Theres like a 80% of this teaser trailer that isn't in the film. It seems like a whole different vibe too, like way more Kubrick-esque. Reminds me of Under the Skin
Would be interesting to get a Directors Cut or deleted scenes or something
Women are incapable of writing any character that isn't a bawd, aren't they?
This was written by a man. Probably why it's so good.
I once made a saxophonist go down on me
Tar did nothing wrong.
>Apartment for sale!
>Apartment for sale!
spooky
>was not expecting slight psychological horror elements
>actually felt very nervous when she walked into the basement of what she thought was the cellist's building
Fuuuuck this.
I'm acting like Tár (2022) right now while listening to Borislav Slavov's cello combat theme for D:OS2. Shit story but great soundtrack, varied gameplay.
Why did she have two houses? Also this film is better than the hunt at how accurately it portrays cancel culture.
Are you referring to the house she retreats to at the end of the film? If so that's clearly her former childhood home that she co-owns with her brother, who resides there.
No she had two houses in germany. The house her daughter and partner lives in and this one where she was promptly evicted
because the story spread so fast.
Hmm I've only seen it the once and can't remember. If I was to speculate it's a "studio" or creative space which she also uses to take her groomees to so they could eat her pussy in privacy.
Lmao why do you morons insist she fricks any of them? Its never shown. Her sin is stealing their ideas to compose her no 5. symphony. That's all it is. Its not clear whether there was a sexual relationship with any of these social climbers.
>Lmao why do you morons insist she fricks any of them?
Because it's consistent with her behaviour.
What behaviour? The film literally shows you how informattion gets distorted for manipulation. Her tiff at the beginning with the gay nig has now morphed into something sexual and is used as a base to inform her cancellation. Why would you trust what the morons who are cancelling her believe when they are reading the twitter messages written by her disgruntled PA?
>What behaviour?
Her reaction when her former protege kills herself.
Her pursuing a celloist she's clearly attracted to and advancing her based on that attraction.
Her co-conductor's insinuations.
Her visiting a brothel.
And just in general her demeanour.
>Her tiff at the beginning with the gay nig has now morphed into something sexual and is used as a base to inform her cancellation.
The dead protege's parents suing her is basically the driving force behind that. That's just kindling on a fire that's already blazing.
Her reaction doesn't say anything sexual? She could be guilty of anything, it doesn't have to be sexual.
The celloist was incredibly talented and the sexual interest was obviously one-sided.
Her co-conductor was getting laid off, he could have said anything out of anger.
She visited a massage parlor not a brothel, they led her to a brothel based on the info from twitter, they obviously put two and two together and decided to oversell seeing as to how they received an exceptional customer. And its not even clear whether it was a brothel. I love how she immediately pukes at the no. 5 suggestion because she is horrified that her symphony is compared to a cheap prostitute.
>Her reaction doesn't say anything sexual? She could be guilty of anything, it doesn't have to be sexual.
True, but when we see her pursuit of the celloist it's reasonable to conclude that may have happened previously.
>The celloist was incredibly talented
Yes, but Lydia's sexual desire is clearly what pushes her into the front running.
>the sexual interest was obviously one-sided.
Doesn't mean that she hasn't tried that before and it been reciprocated.
>Her co-conductor was getting laid off, he could have said anything out of anger.
Yeah, true but again with everything we know it supports impropriety.
>She visited a massage parlor not a brothel
>its not even clear whether it was a brothel
It's a brothel.
>I love how she immediately pukes at the no. 5 suggestion because she is horrified that her symphony is compared to a cheap prostitute.
I think there's a few allusions that could be taken from that.
There's more than enough in the film to support both perspectives, it has deliberately obscured things because it's no interested in being a straight forward 'grooming is bad' story and is interested in other complexities but even with that I've know idea how you could be perturbed by people watching it then thinking she grooms her students when there's more than enough in the film to suggest that she has. It's not a leap.
No one even gives her a chance to defend herself. Not her partner, her company, her landlords, not even her own brother. The director is clearly showing you how she is being cancelled and emphasizing that over anything she is supposed to have done. He is telling you that what she did is not important enough to make it to the film. So why would he even make a film about cancelling someone and leave that out if he doesn't assume she is innocent? He gives so much airtime to building her up to be this creative genius and equally so to destroying that, that he doesn't have any time to verify her innocence.
>No one even gives her a chance to defend herself.
Unfortunately people rarely do in these situations. You could contrast it with The Hunt, a story in which the character's innocence is established without question and yet everyone he knows, with the exception of his brother, turns on him and has no willingness to listen to his profession of innocence. Lydia could very well be innocent of impropriety, I personally don't think she is, but the film crafts a thought provoking situation in that she very well could be yet due to circumstance it's inconsequential to all involved and enough for her life to be dismantled.
This one is actually more accurate than the hunt in that people have a reason to hate her. She is a rich mean b***h compare to the lovable personality created of the teacher who has no one in his hometown that defends him.
I guess but it's a deliberate choice that works with the movie's intentions.
If Hunt had done the same thing as Tar in which Lydia's innocence isn't fully established it would have completely changed the movie.
If there were ambiguity it might be hard to feel sympathetic to Lucas when the town turns on him but that we know that he is innocent it instead becomes an examination of mob mentality and how damaging an accusation can be.
With Tar it's looking at cancel culture and even though everyone doesn't have all the facts, including the audience, they are content to make definitive judgements and decisions.
>And its not even clear whether it was a brothel.
Lad, you don’t pick out your masseuse from a gallery when you go for a massage.
She is supposed to know that because germany is similar to south asia.
She's a woman.
The ending was a rebirth. Instead of playing for snobs she's playing for people who truly enjoy the music.