this
but also just because it's not impossible or unrealistic or anything doesn't mean i'm supposed to tolerate it
i hate sci-fi fantasy where all the aliens are just colorful people with no alien features. sure, it's 'just fantasy' so it's not like this is impossible, but i dislike it is all
Because its always cringe shit like Idol/jpop forced into the story and depressed salary men or the characters treating japanese food like mana from heaven even though its mid af irl.
Okay, look at this way.
Imagine an episode of Game of Thrones.
Everything goes as normal but out of nowhere Arya Stark and Daenyrs Targarean go off on a twerk contest with modern POP/RAP music blaring in the background and all the peasants are getting crunk.
>character gets redesign >it is objectively inferior to the previous design >there's no going back
There was supposed to be a line in the ending where Belle asks him if he can grow a beard, I really think that would have addressed many people's concerns. Here's Glen Keane talking about it.
The whole thing: https://whysoblu.com/beauty-and-beast-glen-keane-interview/
This interview was from 2010, it's interesting that they actually did have the line in the 2017 remake.
they did it with the dog from shaun the sheep, they gave him a scragglier design with a neanderthal forehead in season 2, but reverted back to his original model in later seasons
As far as I'm aware, Peyo always kept things medieval. It was adaptations that added things that shouldn't be there.
Like Reporter being dressed like a guy from the 50s.
>Peyo always kept things medieval
Bullshit, the olympic games book is the second one where he is sole writer (although it can be argued it's just from that point onwards they start crediting the whole studio's work to Peyo) and it's nothing medieval
>Character is established >Revealed later that they were faking their personality and backstory.
Thomas from regular is the best example of this horrible idea. Taking a likeable character and making them completely different is even worse than killing them because they can't go back to the way they were
Who the frick liked Thomas before his reveal? He was so milquetoast in attitude that there wasn't anything to like OR hate about him. His best episode pre-reveal was probably the brainfreeze one, and he was hardly even prevalent as a character in it. Making him a double agent was at least interesting and proved to be a nice way to bookend his arc and tastefully remove someone from the cast who didn't add anything to the Park dynamic.
Also what was the deal with Smurfette wearing high heels in a medieval world?
I know they wanted to feminize her design compared to the male Smurfs.
Couldn’t they make her barefoot or remove the heel?
a bad writer who's incapable of imagination can only take what they know and paint it a different color
they don't write "what if magical fantasy world' "what if alien world" etc.... they write "what if downtown New York but with aliens"
I love TOH but the Penstagram stuff was god awful. It's really obvious what parts of the worldbuilding they actually cared about versus the stuff they had to make work for jokes
There's a scene where Gus suggests disguising as women to distract a guard and Willow says >This is a cartoon from the 40s, Gus!
even though she's a witch from another world who doesn't know what cartoons are, much less naming them by decade and with reference to cliches
Also, their idea for phones is just...birds. How magical.
>Smart character invents/discovers something that can do amazing things >It's a technology that could change lives for the better >Misuses it or something unforeseen happens that causes problems the characters have to solve >They decide to never touch the thing again rather than being more cautious or testing it in a more controlled environment or figuring out what went wrong and avoiding that
Imagine how much shit we'd miss out on if scientists acted like that irl.
>villain has legitimate motive >is also insanely violent or cruel for reasons that are nothing to do with that motive to the writers don't have to think too hard
>Character is literally killed, but with pure willpower or belief in their friends they return stronger than ever.
I am not talking about something like Goku watching Krillin die and then turning Super Saiyan because his friend was killed.
I mean the character has been mortally wounded, literally on the verge of death, and in their dying breath they have an epiphany about what's really important in life and they resurrect fully healed with enough power to beat the villain that beat them.
Like, no, you were beaten and seconds from death, there's no coming back from that.
>character experiences supernatural event, ghosts or whatever >first chance they get to tell someone about it, they do it in the most schizo way possible as if they're TRYING to ensure nobody will believe them
>character knows that describing the event would make them sound crazy to an authority figure and lie about it being something more believable that'll get the figure to investigate >for example, if a monster/ghost is terrorizing the character's house, they instead say that there's a killer/thief attacking the house
Is there any work of fiction out there that actually does this kind of thing?
>sci-fi setting >becomes fantasy with a tech paint job
I got nothing against science fantasy per se, but I don't like when a series gets softer and softer on the scale with each installment.
>character makes a mistake >other character, unaware of who made the mistake, gets mad >they say they will forever hate whoever made said mistake >character confesses at the end of the episode >"oh you know I wouldn't hate you! You're my friend!"
>Body swap episode >Their goddamn voices switch as well
There is nothing I hate more. It makes zero sense and it would be so much more fun hearing the original voices in a different way. They really think the viewers are too stupid to follow who's who, don't they?
English equivalent with the same prononciation would be "shtroompf" which is only one less letter. Also the complicated name was part of the joke when they first appeared in Johan and Pirlouit.
>character picks up book and opens exactly to the part they were looking for
Or even worse, >character opens book exactly to the middle and starts reading the first chapter
Who wrote the forward and introduction, Tolstoy?
>viewer does not understand the definition of "fantasy"
>anon does not understand what hating a trope means
i know it's fake c**t but it's not fun
You do realize that just because something falls under the genre of "fantasy" does not mean its an anything goes type of setting....right?
Specifically, Medieval Fantasy.
There are certain themes that must be adhered to otherwise it would just be random nonsense.
this
but also just because it's not impossible or unrealistic or anything doesn't mean i'm supposed to tolerate it
i hate sci-fi fantasy where all the aliens are just colorful people with no alien features. sure, it's 'just fantasy' so it's not like this is impossible, but i dislike it is all
This annoyed the living frick out of me when I binge watched Slayers
Okay but its Slayers though, not exactly Tolkien. I feel like this is acceptable in a comedic setting
>Slayers
Is this the one with a old lady?
>not exactly Tolkien
No, its inspired by D&D but my point still stands.
Its a medieval european world, there shouldnt be cringe idol shit or depressed japanese businessmen.
Japs are good at mixing medieval European fantasy with modern stuff
No they arent.
Because its always cringe shit like Idol/jpop forced into the story and depressed salary men or the characters treating japanese food like mana from heaven even though its mid af irl.
Jesus. I was just like You. I just went with it.
Okay, look at this way.
Imagine an episode of Game of Thrones.
Everything goes as normal but out of nowhere Arya Stark and Daenyrs Targarean go off on a twerk contest with modern POP/RAP music blaring in the background and all the peasants are getting crunk.
Characters points out a problem and call out person bad behavior get depicted as the bad guy.
This is more of a failure of writing rather than a trope
>character gets redesign
>it is objectively inferior to the previous design
>there's no going back
He looks fine as a human you're all just mean furries.
There was supposed to be a line in the ending where Belle asks him if he can grow a beard, I really think that would have addressed many people's concerns. Here's Glen Keane talking about it.
The whole thing: https://whysoblu.com/beauty-and-beast-glen-keane-interview/
This interview was from 2010, it's interesting that they actually did have the line in the 2017 remake.
>Not using Jake Long
I like s2 jake way more. I know thats an unpopular opinion but he looks way less furhomosexual.
they did it with the dog from shaun the sheep, they gave him a scragglier design with a neanderthal forehead in season 2, but reverted back to his original model in later seasons
>but reverted back to his original model in later seasons
wow did nobody like the redesign?
people didn't like the redesign as seen in comments on this post
https://www.peppertop.com/blog/?p=769
Uh, I remember Smurfs being generally pretty faithful to the setting.
>character is a wanted criminal
>walks around like normal
Still not seeing the appeal. Also wouldn't that be consider bad writing then trope.
That's clearly not edalyn clawThorne moron
As far as I'm aware, Peyo always kept things medieval. It was adaptations that added things that shouldn't be there.
Like Reporter being dressed like a guy from the 50s.
>Peyo always kept things medieval
Bullshit, the olympic games book is the second one where he is sole writer (although it can be argued it's just from that point onwards they start crediting the whole studio's work to Peyo) and it's nothing medieval
>funny talking animal
Somehow it's either based or cringe with no inbetween
Getting friendzone is bad.
>Character is established
>Revealed later that they were faking their personality and backstory.
Thomas from regular is the best example of this horrible idea. Taking a likeable character and making them completely different is even worse than killing them because they can't go back to the way they were
Thomas was so fricking bland and forgettable I think it's better that way honestly.
Who the frick liked Thomas before his reveal? He was so milquetoast in attitude that there wasn't anything to like OR hate about him. His best episode pre-reveal was probably the brainfreeze one, and he was hardly even prevalent as a character in it. Making him a double agent was at least interesting and proved to be a nice way to bookend his arc and tastefully remove someone from the cast who didn't add anything to the Park dynamic.
God I loved Regular Show and just remembered how much I hated the ending
>character starts rapping
Also what was the deal with Smurfette wearing high heels in a medieval world?
I know they wanted to feminize her design compared to the male Smurfs.
Couldn’t they make her barefoot or remove the heel?
heels existed in medieval times
they were used by men when riding horses
>Medieval fantasy
>Modern values (aka no homophobia, sexism or racism)
Liberals would actually die, if they were in the actual middle ages.
>Shaniquah Goes Medieval
I would watch that show
>ARFUR! I CAN'T BELIEVE ME OWN SQUIRE DID A FOOKIN ROICISM!
>Fantasy world
>Have phones and social media
Writers please, try just taking one step beyond what you know
a bad writer who's incapable of imagination can only take what they know and paint it a different color
they don't write "what if magical fantasy world' "what if alien world" etc.... they write "what if downtown New York but with aliens"
I love TOH but the Penstagram stuff was god awful. It's really obvious what parts of the worldbuilding they actually cared about versus the stuff they had to make work for jokes
There's a scene where Gus suggests disguising as women to distract a guard and Willow says
>This is a cartoon from the 40s, Gus!
even though she's a witch from another world who doesn't know what cartoons are, much less naming them by decade and with reference to cliches
Also, their idea for phones is just...birds. How magical.
>their idea for phones is just...birds
Should have copied Sending from DnD/Pathfinder
I get why this is annoying but I liked the idea of a scroll phone
>Medieval world
>Having motorcycles
Please tell me that's fake.
It's the final unlockable "horse" I think. Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom has a mix of medieval fantasy but also hi-tech "Sheikah" technology
>obvious creator self insert
>Smart character invents/discovers something that can do amazing things
>It's a technology that could change lives for the better
>Misuses it or something unforeseen happens that causes problems the characters have to solve
>They decide to never touch the thing again rather than being more cautious or testing it in a more controlled environment or figuring out what went wrong and avoiding that
Imagine how much shit we'd miss out on if scientists acted like that irl.
It's called nuclear power.
I'm so fricking mad
>villain has legitimate motive
>is also insanely violent or cruel for reasons that are nothing to do with that motive to the writers don't have to think too hard
Is that kill zone?
>Character is literally killed, but with pure willpower or belief in their friends they return stronger than ever.
I am not talking about something like Goku watching Krillin die and then turning Super Saiyan because his friend was killed.
I mean the character has been mortally wounded, literally on the verge of death, and in their dying breath they have an epiphany about what's really important in life and they resurrect fully healed with enough power to beat the villain that beat them.
Like, no, you were beaten and seconds from death, there's no coming back from that.
>The empire is called "The Empire"
Please stop with these generic names for factions , have it be the Empire of something
>new troublemaking pet/friend that frames others episode
Every time I've seen this kind of episode, it has NEVER gotten a satisfying payoff.
It's not a NEW person framing others, but holy shit was this one satisfying over 9 and a half page of the kids stealthily fricking with everyone.
>character experiences supernatural event, ghosts or whatever
>first chance they get to tell someone about it, they do it in the most schizo way possible as if they're TRYING to ensure nobody will believe them
>character knows that describing the event would make them sound crazy to an authority figure and lie about it being something more believable that'll get the figure to investigate
>for example, if a monster/ghost is terrorizing the character's house, they instead say that there's a killer/thief attacking the house
Is there any work of fiction out there that actually does this kind of thing?
Hero decides to kill the villain but pussy out at the last second.
>debut episode of A character is the only one when character talk/appears
I never get that, so many good characters were wasted
>Medieval themed world
>adults have British accents
>kids have American accents
pick one, I don't care which one just pick one.
>Bride gets married
>Their wedding outfit is consist of just a veil, or their wedding dress is just an extremely long white shirt
>the dumb whine sidekick character
They are never funny. They're lame.
>sci-fi setting
>becomes fantasy with a tech paint job
I got nothing against science fantasy per se, but I don't like when a series gets softer and softer on the scale with each installment.
character makes trouble but the person they prank gets blamed for it
>character makes a mistake
>other character, unaware of who made the mistake, gets mad
>they say they will forever hate whoever made said mistake
>character confesses at the end of the episode
>"oh you know I wouldn't hate you! You're my friend!"
>Body swap episode
>Their goddamn voices switch as well
There is nothing I hate more. It makes zero sense and it would be so much more fun hearing the original voices in a different way. They really think the viewers are too stupid to follow who's who, don't they?
>words with way too many fricking letters having a 1.5 syllable pronunciation.
English equivalent with the same prononciation would be "shtroompf" which is only one less letter. Also the complicated name was part of the joke when they first appeared in Johan and Pirlouit.
Tropes that you actually love but everyone hates?
Is smart smurft about to streak
He going to flash Smurfette.
>character picks up book and opens exactly to the part they were looking for
Or even worse,
>character opens book exactly to the middle and starts reading the first chapter
Who wrote the forward and introduction, Tolstoy?
It's a non-linear narrative.
Ah, but what about when it's nonfiction?
>show has a baby character