>Learned that the dragon scroll being a "mirror" means anybody and their mom can be the dragon warrior. >He didn't think "oh you're right, I'm going to train and find my inner peace to be an amazing master" >Instead he wanted to kill Po and destroy anything
he was raised his whole life for this dragon shit...he panicked when he found out he was bullshit, only to be killed in cold blood by a fat dude with a weekend course...it would be hilarious if it wasn't tragic
Both Po and Shifu said the exact same thing initially. Po didn't even understand it until his dad told him the about "secret" ingredient soup. I bet even Shifu would have been like wtf are you talking about. Up to that point the scroll had been hyped up as offering fantastic powers to those who read it, so of course everyone thought it was jank when it didn't do anything
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, you literally miss the point of that imagery.
And that's the thing, Po was told, he got it. Tai Lung was told, he still didn't get it.
You really think he'd be capable of doing that so easily when he was locked into place for years because of his earlier ape out?
The real question is if Oogway purposely trained him wrong as a joke.
The thing was that Shifu didnt train him to be the dragon warrior he trained him to forcibly take the title. Sifiu assumed that somewhere in the hardcore lessons and training morality was naturally supposed to happen. It did not, Sifu was still learning wisdom from the turtle and didnt think about if he was taking that role for his students.
No. The whole tragedy of Tai Lung was how he was never turning back. The gauntlet was thrown, the pieces were in place, he was never going to redeem himself.
That was the whole point of Shifu’s apology, and Tai Lung disregarding it. Tai Lung ultimately made his own decisions, and his decision was to keep going with his ambitions.
Anon, he's not dead. He's literally been in the TV show. Besides, the Wuxi Finger Hold just tps you to the spirit realm, and it's possible to go back and forth
he's right in what? there's a reason when tai lung opens the scroll and he sees his reflection, he says "It's nothing!"
I mean, Tai Lung saw his own reflection and said "It's nothing!" first
To be fair Tai Lung probably heard the same "it's the man not the weapon" and other chinese/kung fu analects with a similar message so can you blame him for being mad that the dragon scroll is an elaborate troll?
His nephew was a prodigy and it was always the possibility that he would go evil as well. I don't know how that character arc ended. Or did Tai Lung actually show up in the one of the shows?
His nephew was a prodigy and it was always the possibility that he would go evil as well. I don't know how that character arc ended. Or did Tai Lung actually show up in the one of the shows?
Did they pull the Frank Grimes Jr/Snowball 5/Fat(formerly Fit) Tony the Simpsons does when they kill off a character only to introduce this brand new character that looks, sounds and acts exactly like the dead one?
>raised by sexist family and homeschooled never got to have actual social life >gets shit on by everyone for his sexist beliefs which he probably didn't even know was wrong since he had no exposure to any other way of thinking >gets exposed to shit tons of radiation and left to die multiple times by Chris Mclean until he's a literal ghoul
What the frick TDI
Because even you ultra deluded idiots realize the only way for Azula to be redeemed is to have her bending taken from her and you just don't like that.
What a happened to Simon was a terrible tragedy that could've been avoided, but Grace fundamentally fricked up and has to live with what she caused for the rest of her life.
The biggest question with redemption arcs is how the character will change after he’s redeemed. Tai Lung is a tragic figure, but a redeemed version of him…would just be a generic character.
Shen was an annoying and generic manchild who murders without remorse and wanted to conquer china and destroy kung fu (despite being a kung fu warrior) You just like him because of his design
Shen was an butthole. Literally the ONLY positive thing he does is letting that soothsayer go. Hardly worth mentioning since she posed no threat to him, his army or the cannons, so it isn't like he had a reason to kill her
>charisma is how nice the villain is
god I hate zoomers let me guess every villain needs some tragic backstory too
2 years ago
Anonymous
>god I hate zoomers
We know cringennial. Everytime you people make a shitty cartoon it's OUR fault
2 years ago
Anonymous
nah. Kung Fu Panda 2 was a bad film lacking good humor, charm or an engaging/well told/fleshed out storyline. Even at only 81 mins without credits, it's a chore to sit through
Kung Fu Panda 2 is tied with Shrek the Third as the most consistently unfunny Dreamworks film. The comedy is TERRIBLE
We get it homie, you have a shit taste.
2 years ago
Anonymous
defend the story all you want, but the jokes aren't funny
2 years ago
Anonymous
>god I hate zoomers
We know cringennial. Everytime you people make a shitty cartoon it's OUR fault
here. I have nothing to do with
nah. Kung Fu Panda 2 was a bad film lacking good humor, charm or an engaging/well told/fleshed out storyline. Even at only 81 mins without credits, it's a chore to sit through
>2 had a pretty fricking bad script
As opposed to every animated sequel ever? Toy Story 2-3 and Shrek 2 doesn't count. All things considered, it had a solid script for a Dreamworks movie. And the execution was flawless.
nah. Kung Fu Panda 2 was a bad film lacking good humor, charm or an engaging/well told/fleshed out storyline. Even at only 81 mins without credits, it's a chore to sit through
It moves at a breakneck pace and has the coolest/most impactful scenes in the entire franchise, what are you talking about homosexual. Are you baiting as usual?
you're not changing my mind. I've seen the film enough times to say with 100% confidence that it doesn't work. It isn't good entertainment. It misses the mark
Here's a suggestion. >Bossman is chilling in his office, fox fur coat on the wall and a martini in his grasp, and a neatly catalogued desk. Nearby is a file cabinet full of his employee's profiles, work activities, salaries and other stuff. >When inspecting each one, he notices a discrepancy in the Crotty profile. An increase of $40,000 in his annual salary for someone who does grunt work. The martini shatters in his grasp. >He carouses the profile even further and finds the names and numbers of schools his children went to, as is the custom when promoting your company, you have the names of nearby schools your employee's kids go to. Each school, when asked about the "special and generous" employee always claimed he made "big purchases for the PTA" and other extravagances. >Bossman is enraged. "My employees can't be embezzling from me! $50,000 is a glamorous salary for doing something so simple", he thought. >He goes to the quarters assigned to Crotty, the employee he'd known for about a decade. A dutiful worker who never whined about the job nor asked for a raise. No need for a DNA scan, just use your rage to rip the door from the hinges. So what if you're short? Won't matter when you're seeing red and bulging at your seams. >Bossman is frothing at the mouth, demanding an explanation for his long-time employee's betrayal. "I don't know what you're talking about", he says. Then wrath takes the reign over rationality, over conscience. >The boss then socks his employee in the face as hard as he can, dazing him for just a moment as he rips out a pipe full of freshly made PB flavor, the very essence of his company, and shoves it hard down his agape maw formed from shock. >Before he could grasp the pipe, his oral cavity is invaded by unpasteurized PB flavor, so sweet yet going down his gullet at an unrelenting pace. Suddenly his uniform starts to get overencumbered, the buttons starting to shift and his belt barely holding back the manufactured slop.
P1
P2 >Bossman is seething that his profits were quietly being plundered by a family man, but now he saw his children as parasites feeding off of his nectar. "May as well give him the profits in it's pure form. He can handle it.", he thought. >The buttons on his uniform start to give way, one by one they go. If the sugar crash wasn't taking his strength, then it was his throat and esophagus becoming painfully sore. No matter how hard he pulled at his boss's grasp, the lack of breathing space increasing in his abdomen ever so increased. >Before the lining of his dress shirt became straight, the pipe became empty. His employee could barely collect himself, with his beach ball sized midsection forcing him onto the cold ground. Before he could ask why, the maker of his salary ran off 50 feet, paced himself, and ran forward to bounce on his round addition. The footsteps going and coming so daintily made the "plunderer" attempt to sit up, which was futile, his boss gleefully rushing in. The impact made him nearly lurch, and the boss forced his grubby hands on his maw to keep his "earnings" intact. >Instead of expulsing the nectar, he is forced to keep his "salary" intact, the ambiguity of the raw contents swirling and churning in his overburdened gastrointestinal system, and then some. >"For a weekly basis, you will carry your debt to my company, maybe even dress up as Santa for 'overtime' during Christmas, unless you want me calling the authorities. Not so good for your squeaky-clean image, ain't it?" >And so he goes home, with his "gains" aching with every step and breath, exhaustion preventing him from his daily home "activities", even leaving the act of speaking to be crippling and burdensome. He can't even reach the stairs, let alone the rooms, the bathrooms, or the dining room table. >2 months later, when his "debt" is paid, he slowly starts to change.
They had a perfect opportunity to bring him back in third movie as one of the Kai's jade warriors that would be released from his magic at the end of the movie but for some reason dropped that idea (even though they could make a rematch between Tigress and jade Tai Lung that would make her role a much more significant)
I think that would be a good opportunity for a joke like him saying he might die again laughing or that something like a rematch would imply their last fight was an actual fight and not a red handed smack down.
That's the thing though, Tai Lung actually DID have the opportunity to back down and stop his rampage. It was while Shifu was apologizing for everything and how he was responsible for for how he hurt him. For just a brief few moments, you can see the hesitation and regret in Tai Lung's eyes. Where Shifu's apology actually did touch him deep down and he had brief moment of regret and considerstion. But he instead decided to double down and commit to his villainy, because it's all he has and it's what he's devoted his life towards. He can't stop now, because what else does he know he can do other than see his plan through, and become the Dragon Warrior?
>He can't stop now, because what else does he know he can do other than see his plan through, and become the Dragon Warrior?
Atone for his sins, become the Valley's protector and make cute leopard/tiger babies with Tigress?
P3 >The flavor engorged man, after many intentful jumps to his engorged mass, after many non-solid expulsions, Santa pictures, times he failed to reach the stairs, times to prevent his car from causing an accident, and times any kid or co-worker would call him "Bloaty", lacked his peckish demeanor and unwarranted sneer. >The flavor nectar hijacked his body, making his job painful. Lifting the pliers with both hands and exhaling were hindered by his front mass. Standing for long periods of time reigned mayhem on his knees and ankles. Even putting on his uniform took longer than required. >For every time he arrived home, he could barely muster a "hello" to his family and would always collapse on the living room couch. His children would feign sadness, then jump with joy as he would fall into a cavernous slumber until he had to work. >Even after the "payments" ended, his physiology remained bulbous and cumbersome. No matter what he did to lose weight (diets, digesting exercise catalogues, exercising around the house) he remained hefty. His family didn't mind, as long as they could trip him over, shove a pie in his face, and kick him in his gourd. After years of suffering by his hand, they had an opening from the very day he waddled into the kitchen. Oh sure, they could leave, but showing restraint to someone that never did to you and your kin? Now that's BLASPHEMY! >One day the biggun' became hard as a rock, leaving the former patriarch of the household bedridden and with an insatiable appetite (for food). A blanket barely enveloped his stomach, yet it was the only warmth that engulfed him in his household, and rightfully so. He had to call work about the side effects from the internal PB extract excursions to his gullet. A workman's comp inspector was called (by a concerned secretary in secret) to check on his condition, and the sight of the flurbished employee led to immediate approval. So much for profit. >Several days later, "movements" stirred within.
Seriously? Arguably Unalaq is the only villain who doesn't, the rest of them are sympathetic enough. Maybe not Zaheer, but the rest of this dead might.
P4 >The family thought they were free from servitude, yet the incessant cries and groans from their "provider" led to a harrowing decision; continue to feed the creature that laid waste to them, or risk imprisonment for letting him starve? The former was agreed on (not unanimously) in hopes to stave out the behemoth in the living room. Different meals were concocted in the kitchen, with mixtures of seafood, fast food items, plantains, pickles, melon balls, Luthor Brownwiches, cookies, pancakes, french toast and other unholy cuisine atrocities amalgamated to appease the inescapable fatty. >Even when the greasy delights were shoved down his throat, bananas were squeezed through his teeth, and syrup-drenched pancakes sliding down into his esophagus, he kept praising his kin even through rough facial treatment and countless insults. >Only one family member tired of such inanity that greeted them after school, but her pleas to leave were hindered by her mother's incapability to think for the long-term. >The fistfuls of slop continued for 5 more weeks, running the family ragged and the kitchen as the bedroom. Any chance they had to shower were interrupted by mewling for Ding-Dongs and Twinkies. They had to go in shifts, even for bedtime. >Then, in the middle of the night, new pains started to overtake the former provider of the household. He awoke with piercing pains in his lower back, his miniscule domain drenched in festering fluids, lowering the pricing value of the couch. For every time he yelled for food, he should have called for a doctor to check on his blubber. Now was the time to scream.
P5 >He cried for aid, constantly whimpering for something other than duodenum-bursting treats, which grabbed the attention of his wife, who spared her children another night of wasteful cooking. She scampered to the beast and his belly, with gurgling replaced by audible muscle tension and the aroma of last night's pancakes arising from his every huff and puff. >She could not help but notice the position of her "beloved's" legs. It could not be ignored the predicament that was occurring. Whatever concoction stirred within the patriarch's bowels was doing it's damndest to emerge. His wife weighed in the potential for an abomination to take spotlight and create more disgusting delights in the kitchen, and the presence of a new creature potentially ending her "one and only" at its first breath. >It was best for her brood to not bear witness to the behemoth about to split or burst, so she carried each one upstairs as fast as she could and began the process of guiding her betrothed through the "process" she was familiar with years ago after scavenging for the necessary supplies. By the time she arrived, the couch where her "ever ever after" occupied was outlined with weeks of fluids, with the bulbousness reclined on the floor expunging more fluids that tore through his undies, then excess tissue, and eventually blood, his O cavern widening then tearing apart to accomodate the new addition to their "happy home". >She nearly vomited, but she's seen, smelled and heard worse. A burglar opened the window but caught a whiff of the pustulent jamboree and ran with it searing his virgin nostrils. If it wasn't the smell that invaded the neighborhood, it was the screaming that did. The previous brood were high up in sealed rooms, not taking in the pungentness downstairs. However, only one child decided to see what was occurring below, and she went to witness something long deserved and waiting.
P6 >Once she opened her bedroom door, the stink perforated her nasal cavity, forcing her to cover her nose in order to sample her long awaited dream. >She did what she could to be quiet, using fluffy socks and tiptoeing to peer over the staircase, even with the wails and squelches blanketing the household. Her glee, however, was plastered on her underdeveloped face, a glee that emerged and would stay. >Alas, she saw her paternal parent in woes of agony, staining the floor with all-to-familiar and never-before-seen fluids. Her maternal parent, adorned with gloves, a facial mask, a plastic torso cover, lubricant, had placed blankets on the side or under the "giver" who was halfway through the pangs of creation. He huffed and puffed and spitted and cursed and cried and seethed, but it was coming out no matter what. >What was baffling however, was the appearance of the "creature" itself. Instead of a malformed stillbirth, it was a seemingly normal human baby that was 100 lbs too big. It's arms rivaled the size of her schoolteacher and it's head the size of a watermelon. And yet, her father somehow carried the oversized bundle of joy, her mother nearly collapsing in shocking when doing her damndest to pull the changeling out of her "lover". >Once the blessed one was completely removed, the "mother" took in a huge breath, and slumped to his side. The wife, after tirelessly helping her "honey-boo" through such pain, also collapsed after calculating how much baby formula would feed the babbu for an hour. >The peeper, however, would take this opportunity to wake up her brothers and devise a plan to take the "small wonder" and themselves to CPS in order to get a better life and finally have good parents for once. It was unanimous. A wagon, bacon grease and a panel were used to carry Behemoth jr. to the great beyond, with both parents too passed out to intervene. >Off they went to the neighbors as to not arouse suspicion, and they found a family who would take their pleas
P7 >-for a new home seriously and find them a farmstead for them to live on, and baby too. And so they went, not caring for their old parents and established a new life for themselves. Their "sister" became 4x the size of a normal human and carried the spotlight in their rural homestead, helping their new parents gain more property through showmanship and squeezing poachers, extortioners, scammers, potential defilers, telemarketers, burglars, and freezer criminals to death with her massive shoulders and a brick wall. And for decades, they lived in solitude, until their peaceful deaths near their gargantuan sister's 14 children and 20 grandchildren. Nothing was ever heard of by their old parents, for they were too broken to try to make contact.
The end. Goodnight.
I didn't like the jarring shift from Tai Lung vs Shifu to Po's arrival in the 1st but I was ok with the "how did you do it?" skit of the 2nd.
Dunno why.
Nah, the moment he got was perfect >Shifu apologizes, tells him he was wrong, is completely humbled, just for a moment, the briefest moment, Tai Lung has the chance to turn back and you can see he considers it >Only to discard it for glory
It was perfectly done.
Kung Fu Panda 2 had a much better villain with Shen (who Gary Oldman fricking nailed as the voice for). Yea the jokes weren't as clever but the story was amazing.
>long ago, in ancient China, the peawieners ruled over Gongmen City. They brought great joy and prosperity to the city, for they had invented fireworks. But their son, Lord Shen, saw darker power in the fireworks. What had brought color and joy could also bring darkness and destruction. Shen's troubled parents consulted a soothsayer. She foretold that if Shen continued down this dark path, he would be defeated by a warrior of black and white
i knew that i was about to watch a bad movie when this is the first dialogue audiences in the theater hear
I'll admit, that intro was pretty shitty and pretty much spoiled the whole movie.
That's what prophecies are. They basically limit the story to two outcomes- the prophecy comes true (often by semantics) or the prophecy was wrong.
Kung Fu Panda 2 had a much better villain with Shen (who Gary Oldman fricking nailed as the voice for). Yea the jokes weren't as clever but the story was amazing.
I really liked how they addressed trauma- it's not something you overcome, it's something you learn to accept.
>commits genocide and destroys a thriving village because of a vague prophecy, steals metal all over China, kills the rhyno master, doesn't respect anyone, treats his wolves/gorillas army badly, tosses his late father's throne out of the window, destroys his ancestral home, shows no empathy towards Po for killing his mother, kills his wolf lieutenant, blasts away some of his men, and wants to conquer China and destroy kung fu with fireworks cannons (thus starting the "year of the peawiener" as he calls it)
Shen was so unlikeable
Seriously sharkgay, what happened to changing for the better after the mods in the infinite "wisdom" lifted your permaban? This is why people hate you so much and why you got banned in the first place. Frick you.
quotes. He pops up with his unsolicited "opinions" for a bunch of different topics and spams them. It originally just started off as spamming Shark Tale threads now he just infests every dreamworks/pixar thread.
Because he always goes off on moronic tangents like this and uses the exact same "criticisms" to hate on a handful of popular movies like KFP2. Notice no one even mentioned the movie yet he still feels compelled to shit on it without really talking to anyone.
It's not like when he did get the scroll, it fixed him any, he just lashed out more. It's literally a mirror: saying that it's not about some outside force making you great, it's just you. The problem is that this is a message for the Dragon Warrior, to communicate to them that they have inside them what it takes to be a great protector and hero. When it reflects Tai Lung, it just reflects an angry and resentful man (or snow leopard) willing to harm others if denied what he thinks he's owed.
Kind of hard to grasp a message when you’ve got the kind of issues Tai has going on. Imagine being raised and trained to the point of excessive bodily harm for a singular purpose only to then be denied and have the father figure that did it to you not even defend you to the guy that saw what you were being made into. Now add to that a two decade stint in a prison utterly restrained with abusive guards who me day tell you some other jackass got the thing you were more or less promised by your father who presumably never once taught you to temper your expectations. Tai got every Kung fu lesson in the world except the one he really needed and suffered for it, expecting him to just go “well shit son I guess I get it now” is Chinese mysticism bullshit. Realistically anyone in his position would react more or less the same way assuming they didn’t have an apoplectic rage fueled stroke and die on the spot.
>unfunny/cringe humor, bad comedic timing, paperthin story without originality or surprises, rushed/erratic pacing, eyerolling dialogue, annoying villain, tedious protagonist, jokes that interrupt serious moments, no interesting or endearing character personalities, cliched drama, 3D "objects at screen" moments, dark color palette, repetitive action, ADHD editing, lazy opening narration, manipulative emotional scenes, pointless cliffhanger ending
truly one of my least favorite animated films in history. Frick you, Dreamworks
Shen never once says the name of any character in the film. Ever. It's like he doesn't care about anyone else to call them by their names, not even the soothsayer or his wolf lieutenant. Tai Lung at least said Shifu, Oogway and Po's names
>KFP1 : no toilet humor whatsoever, which is rare for a Dreamworks film >KFP2 : dragon costume scene where they "eat" soldiers through dragon's mouth, give them a beating inside, and then "poop" them out through the dragon's tail, even using them as projectiles against other soldiers. Bunny kid nearby makes a disgusted sound upon seeing it
>Learned that the dragon scroll being a "mirror" means anybody and their mom can be the dragon warrior.
>He didn't think "oh you're right, I'm going to train and find my inner peace to be an amazing master"
>Instead he wanted to kill Po and destroy anything
And this mf deserves redemption because...
he was raised his whole life for this dragon shit...he panicked when he found out he was bullshit, only to be killed in cold blood by a fat dude with a weekend course...it would be hilarious if it wasn't tragic
>literally miss the entire point of Tai Lung's character
But he's right
he's right in what? there's a reason when tai lung opens the scroll and he sees his reflection, he says "It's nothing!"
Both Po and Shifu said the exact same thing initially. Po didn't even understand it until his dad told him the about "secret" ingredient soup. I bet even Shifu would have been like wtf are you talking about. Up to that point the scroll had been hyped up as offering fantastic powers to those who read it, so of course everyone thought it was jank when it didn't do anything
No, you literally miss the point of that imagery.
And that's the thing, Po was told, he got it. Tai Lung was told, he still didn't get it.
Po taught me forgiveness and to exercise my 2nd amendment in the span of 2 minutes.
He should have concluded that the dragon warrior stuff was bullshit and that he was always going to have to choose his own destiny.
You really think he'd be capable of doing that so easily when he was locked into place for years because of his earlier ape out?
The real question is if Oogway purposely trained him wrong as a joke.
The thing was that Shifu didnt train him to be the dragon warrior he trained him to forcibly take the title. Sifiu assumed that somewhere in the hardcore lessons and training morality was naturally supposed to happen. It did not, Sifu was still learning wisdom from the turtle and didnt think about if he was taking that role for his students.
Panicking and attacking someone in anger are very different things.
No. The whole tragedy of Tai Lung was how he was never turning back. The gauntlet was thrown, the pieces were in place, he was never going to redeem himself.
That was the whole point of Shifu’s apology, and Tai Lung disregarding it. Tai Lung ultimately made his own decisions, and his decision was to keep going with his ambitions.
And it all led to his demise.
Anon, he's not dead. He's literally been in the TV show. Besides, the Wuxi Finger Hold just tps you to the spirit realm, and it's possible to go back and forth
>He's literally been in the TV show
Not canon
That wasn't him, it was his nephew.
To be fair Tai Lung probably heard the same "it's the man not the weapon" and other chinese/kung fu analects with a similar message so can you blame him for being mad that the dragon scroll is an elaborate troll?
Honestly i can't
It was shown in the movie that he's too far gone and damaged to have any kind of redemption.
yep. Spending 20 years in prison locked in a still position and without getting a visit from Shifu broke him
there was a post months ago that I read about Tai lung helping Po fight Kai in the spirit realm and I thought it was pretty cool
Didn't he reformed in they TV show?
His nephew was a prodigy and it was always the possibility that he would go evil as well. I don't know how that character arc ended. Or did Tai Lung actually show up in the one of the shows?
His nephew managed to keep on the straight-and-narrow and IIRC started teaching others instead to be better than his uncle. Tai Lung stayed dead.
Tai Lung technically isn't really dead.
The Wuxi Finger Hold Po used on him just "teleported" him to the spirit realm.
>to the spirit realm
so, the place people go when they die?
It's a shame that they cut scene where Kai literally killed Po and sent him to Spirit Realm
>goes ahead to punch him as Po is literally in the proverbial tunnel and going into the light
lmao
Yeah it's great
yes, but also, no
Did they pull the Frank Grimes Jr/Snowball 5/Fat(formerly Fit) Tony the Simpsons does when they kill off a character only to introduce this brand new character that looks, sounds and acts exactly like the dead one?
He received MULTIPLE offerings of forgiveness and redemption, but turned them all down.
Who?
Will this occur when he's old?
Long overdue for his arc
elaborate.
How would you have written it differently?
how?
This guy is never going to finish a doujin again is he? Is he fricking dead? How the frick can he cuck his entire fanbase worse than his NTR stories?
I will never understand ntrscum. Actually I do, which is why I wish quick deaths for them.
why quick?
based NTRbro
t. vanillaKEK
He did get one on /qst/
>raised by sexist family and homeschooled never got to have actual social life
>gets shit on by everyone for his sexist beliefs which he probably didn't even know was wrong since he had no exposure to any other way of thinking
>gets exposed to shit tons of radiation and left to die multiple times by Chris Mclean until he's a literal ghoul
What the frick TDI
Wtf, where are all Azulachads?
No. Frick off incest gay.
Because the embers have gone out.
Because even you ultra deluded idiots realize the only way for Azula to be redeemed is to have her bending taken from her and you just don't like that.
If we can redeem monsters like Zaheer or Kuvira without taking their bending we sure can do the same for Azula
>we can redeem monsters like Zaheer or Kuvira
But we can't
Azula was as an evil conniving little b***h even as a child. Were Zaheer and Kuvira?
At least Azula didn't kill anyone unlike these two
>Who is Long Feng
how de died?
Killed by royal pussy
>seat stealer
Literally unforgivable
He only should have one because Grace got one. I think it would have been fine if they both died like the scums they were. Book 3 sucked.
Grace is a prisoner
Yes
What a happened to Simon was a terrible tragedy that could've been avoided, but Grace fundamentally fricked up and has to live with what she caused for the rest of her life.
Whatever makes him happy
The biggest question with redemption arcs is how the character will change after he’s redeemed. Tai Lung is a tragic figure, but a redeemed version of him…would just be a generic character.
This motherfricker was given a second chance TWICE and rejected it every single time, he deserved to get Wuxi Finger'd.
they really should've stopped after the first movie. 2 had a pretty fricking bad script
Second one had best villain in franchise though
Shen was an annoying and generic manchild who murders without remorse and wanted to conquer china and destroy kung fu (despite being a kung fu warrior) You just like him because of his design
>You just like him because of his design
Yeah, just like Tai Lung fans like him for exact same reason
Tai Lung had a compelling backstory. Shen didn't
Shen had charisma Tai Lung didn't
Tai Lung has sick fights though
Sucks that shen didn't get more fight scenes casue the dude was stilish as frick, plus he held his own against 2 masters
Shen was an butthole. Literally the ONLY positive thing he does is letting that soothsayer go. Hardly worth mentioning since she posed no threat to him, his army or the cannons, so it isn't like he had a reason to kill her
>charisma is how nice the villain is
god I hate zoomers let me guess every villain needs some tragic backstory too
>god I hate zoomers
We know cringennial. Everytime you people make a shitty cartoon it's OUR fault
We get it homie, you have a shit taste.
defend the story all you want, but the jokes aren't funny
here. I have nothing to do with
or anything like that. Got it?
>2 had a pretty fricking bad script
As opposed to every animated sequel ever? Toy Story 2-3 and Shrek 2 doesn't count. All things considered, it had a solid script for a Dreamworks movie. And the execution was flawless.
nah. Kung Fu Panda 2 was a bad film lacking good humor, charm or an engaging/well told/fleshed out storyline. Even at only 81 mins without credits, it's a chore to sit through
It moves at a breakneck pace and has the coolest/most impactful scenes in the entire franchise, what are you talking about homosexual. Are you baiting as usual?
you're not changing my mind. I've seen the film enough times to say with 100% confidence that it doesn't work. It isn't good entertainment. It misses the mark
Here's a suggestion.
>Bossman is chilling in his office, fox fur coat on the wall and a martini in his grasp, and a neatly catalogued desk. Nearby is a file cabinet full of his employee's profiles, work activities, salaries and other stuff.
>When inspecting each one, he notices a discrepancy in the Crotty profile. An increase of $40,000 in his annual salary for someone who does grunt work. The martini shatters in his grasp.
>He carouses the profile even further and finds the names and numbers of schools his children went to, as is the custom when promoting your company, you have the names of nearby schools your employee's kids go to. Each school, when asked about the "special and generous" employee always claimed he made "big purchases for the PTA" and other extravagances.
>Bossman is enraged. "My employees can't be embezzling from me! $50,000 is a glamorous salary for doing something so simple", he thought.
>He goes to the quarters assigned to Crotty, the employee he'd known for about a decade. A dutiful worker who never whined about the job nor asked for a raise. No need for a DNA scan, just use your rage to rip the door from the hinges. So what if you're short? Won't matter when you're seeing red and bulging at your seams.
>Bossman is frothing at the mouth, demanding an explanation for his long-time employee's betrayal. "I don't know what you're talking about", he says. Then wrath takes the reign over rationality, over conscience.
>The boss then socks his employee in the face as hard as he can, dazing him for just a moment as he rips out a pipe full of freshly made PB flavor, the very essence of his company, and shoves it hard down his agape maw formed from shock.
>Before he could grasp the pipe, his oral cavity is invaded by unpasteurized PB flavor, so sweet yet going down his gullet at an unrelenting pace. Suddenly his uniform starts to get overencumbered, the buttons starting to shift and his belt barely holding back the manufactured slop.
P1
P2
>Bossman is seething that his profits were quietly being plundered by a family man, but now he saw his children as parasites feeding off of his nectar. "May as well give him the profits in it's pure form. He can handle it.", he thought.
>The buttons on his uniform start to give way, one by one they go. If the sugar crash wasn't taking his strength, then it was his throat and esophagus becoming painfully sore. No matter how hard he pulled at his boss's grasp, the lack of breathing space increasing in his abdomen ever so increased.
>Before the lining of his dress shirt became straight, the pipe became empty. His employee could barely collect himself, with his beach ball sized midsection forcing him onto the cold ground. Before he could ask why, the maker of his salary ran off 50 feet, paced himself, and ran forward to bounce on his round addition. The footsteps going and coming so daintily made the "plunderer" attempt to sit up, which was futile, his boss gleefully rushing in. The impact made him nearly lurch, and the boss forced his grubby hands on his maw to keep his "earnings" intact.
>Instead of expulsing the nectar, he is forced to keep his "salary" intact, the ambiguity of the raw contents swirling and churning in his overburdened gastrointestinal system, and then some.
>"For a weekly basis, you will carry your debt to my company, maybe even dress up as Santa for 'overtime' during Christmas, unless you want me calling the authorities. Not so good for your squeaky-clean image, ain't it?"
>And so he goes home, with his "gains" aching with every step and breath, exhaustion preventing him from his daily home "activities", even leaving the act of speaking to be crippling and burdensome. He can't even reach the stairs, let alone the rooms, the bathrooms, or the dining room table.
>2 months later, when his "debt" is paid, he slowly starts to change.
Took me a second, holy frick lmao.
usagi drop route?
Im still keeping my fingers crossed DreamWorks brings him back in another movie so he and Shifu can settle their differences and hug it out.
>another movie
It's over anon, let it go.
They had a perfect opportunity to bring him back in third movie as one of the Kai's jade warriors that would be released from his magic at the end of the movie but for some reason dropped that idea (even though they could make a rematch between Tigress and jade Tai Lung that would make her role a much more significant)
Honestly? Him and Po having to team up after Po gets sent to the Spirit Realm could've been a great concept.
That would have been cool
>Tigress rematch
I think that would be a good opportunity for a joke like him saying he might die again laughing or that something like a rematch would imply their last fight was an actual fight and not a red handed smack down.
They fought pretty evenly for the first 30 seconds or so. Tigress obviously leveled up since the first movie.
>"The Dragon Scroll...it's... Nothing..."
>"No, it's you."
>Po essentially called Tai Lung nothing
I mean, Tai Lung saw his own reflection and said "It's nothing!" first
>It's nothing!
>That's okay, I didn't get it the first time either.
>What?!
>There is no secret ingredient. It's just you.
That's the thing though, Tai Lung actually DID have the opportunity to back down and stop his rampage. It was while Shifu was apologizing for everything and how he was responsible for for how he hurt him. For just a brief few moments, you can see the hesitation and regret in Tai Lung's eyes. Where Shifu's apology actually did touch him deep down and he had brief moment of regret and considerstion. But he instead decided to double down and commit to his villainy, because it's all he has and it's what he's devoted his life towards. He can't stop now, because what else does he know he can do other than see his plan through, and become the Dragon Warrior?
>He can't stop now, because what else does he know he can do other than see his plan through, and become the Dragon Warrior?
Atone for his sins, become the Valley's protector and make cute leopard/tiger babies with Tigress?
A redemption that is actually about his crimes and not about him betraying the Anti-Christ.
P3
>The flavor engorged man, after many intentful jumps to his engorged mass, after many non-solid expulsions, Santa pictures, times he failed to reach the stairs, times to prevent his car from causing an accident, and times any kid or co-worker would call him "Bloaty", lacked his peckish demeanor and unwarranted sneer.
>The flavor nectar hijacked his body, making his job painful. Lifting the pliers with both hands and exhaling were hindered by his front mass. Standing for long periods of time reigned mayhem on his knees and ankles. Even putting on his uniform took longer than required.
>For every time he arrived home, he could barely muster a "hello" to his family and would always collapse on the living room couch. His children would feign sadness, then jump with joy as he would fall into a cavernous slumber until he had to work.
>Even after the "payments" ended, his physiology remained bulbous and cumbersome. No matter what he did to lose weight (diets, digesting exercise catalogues, exercising around the house) he remained hefty. His family didn't mind, as long as they could trip him over, shove a pie in his face, and kick him in his gourd. After years of suffering by his hand, they had an opening from the very day he waddled into the kitchen. Oh sure, they could leave, but showing restraint to someone that never did to you and your kin? Now that's BLASPHEMY!
>One day the biggun' became hard as a rock, leaving the former patriarch of the household bedridden and with an insatiable appetite (for food). A blanket barely enveloped his stomach, yet it was the only warmth that engulfed him in his household, and rightfully so. He had to call work about the side effects from the internal PB extract excursions to his gullet. A workman's comp inspector was called (by a concerned secretary in secret) to check on his condition, and the sight of the flurbished employee led to immediate approval. So much for profit.
>Several days later, "movements" stirred within.
The only villain in Korra who deserved redemption
Seriously? Arguably Unalaq is the only villain who doesn't, the rest of them are sympathetic enough. Maybe not Zaheer, but the rest of this dead might.
Should have been an air bender
Should have been nonbender
Commies deserve nothing but the rope or their 9 gram reward.
P4
>The family thought they were free from servitude, yet the incessant cries and groans from their "provider" led to a harrowing decision; continue to feed the creature that laid waste to them, or risk imprisonment for letting him starve? The former was agreed on (not unanimously) in hopes to stave out the behemoth in the living room. Different meals were concocted in the kitchen, with mixtures of seafood, fast food items, plantains, pickles, melon balls, Luthor Brownwiches, cookies, pancakes, french toast and other unholy cuisine atrocities amalgamated to appease the inescapable fatty.
>Even when the greasy delights were shoved down his throat, bananas were squeezed through his teeth, and syrup-drenched pancakes sliding down into his esophagus, he kept praising his kin even through rough facial treatment and countless insults.
>Only one family member tired of such inanity that greeted them after school, but her pleas to leave were hindered by her mother's incapability to think for the long-term.
>The fistfuls of slop continued for 5 more weeks, running the family ragged and the kitchen as the bedroom. Any chance they had to shower were interrupted by mewling for Ding-Dongs and Twinkies. They had to go in shifts, even for bedtime.
>Then, in the middle of the night, new pains started to overtake the former provider of the household. He awoke with piercing pains in his lower back, his miniscule domain drenched in festering fluids, lowering the pricing value of the couch. For every time he yelled for food, he should have called for a doctor to check on his blubber. Now was the time to scream.
P5
>He cried for aid, constantly whimpering for something other than duodenum-bursting treats, which grabbed the attention of his wife, who spared her children another night of wasteful cooking. She scampered to the beast and his belly, with gurgling replaced by audible muscle tension and the aroma of last night's pancakes arising from his every huff and puff.
>She could not help but notice the position of her "beloved's" legs. It could not be ignored the predicament that was occurring. Whatever concoction stirred within the patriarch's bowels was doing it's damndest to emerge. His wife weighed in the potential for an abomination to take spotlight and create more disgusting delights in the kitchen, and the presence of a new creature potentially ending her "one and only" at its first breath.
>It was best for her brood to not bear witness to the behemoth about to split or burst, so she carried each one upstairs as fast as she could and began the process of guiding her betrothed through the "process" she was familiar with years ago after scavenging for the necessary supplies. By the time she arrived, the couch where her "ever ever after" occupied was outlined with weeks of fluids, with the bulbousness reclined on the floor expunging more fluids that tore through his undies, then excess tissue, and eventually blood, his O cavern widening then tearing apart to accomodate the new addition to their "happy home".
>She nearly vomited, but she's seen, smelled and heard worse. A burglar opened the window but caught a whiff of the pustulent jamboree and ran with it searing his virgin nostrils. If it wasn't the smell that invaded the neighborhood, it was the screaming that did. The previous brood were high up in sealed rooms, not taking in the pungentness downstairs. However, only one child decided to see what was occurring below, and she went to witness something long deserved and waiting.
P6
>Once she opened her bedroom door, the stink perforated her nasal cavity, forcing her to cover her nose in order to sample her long awaited dream.
>She did what she could to be quiet, using fluffy socks and tiptoeing to peer over the staircase, even with the wails and squelches blanketing the household. Her glee, however, was plastered on her underdeveloped face, a glee that emerged and would stay.
>Alas, she saw her paternal parent in woes of agony, staining the floor with all-to-familiar and never-before-seen fluids. Her maternal parent, adorned with gloves, a facial mask, a plastic torso cover, lubricant, had placed blankets on the side or under the "giver" who was halfway through the pangs of creation. He huffed and puffed and spitted and cursed and cried and seethed, but it was coming out no matter what.
>What was baffling however, was the appearance of the "creature" itself. Instead of a malformed stillbirth, it was a seemingly normal human baby that was 100 lbs too big. It's arms rivaled the size of her schoolteacher and it's head the size of a watermelon. And yet, her father somehow carried the oversized bundle of joy, her mother nearly collapsing in shocking when doing her damndest to pull the changeling out of her "lover".
>Once the blessed one was completely removed, the "mother" took in a huge breath, and slumped to his side. The wife, after tirelessly helping her "honey-boo" through such pain, also collapsed after calculating how much baby formula would feed the babbu for an hour.
>The peeper, however, would take this opportunity to wake up her brothers and devise a plan to take the "small wonder" and themselves to CPS in order to get a better life and finally have good parents for once. It was unanimous. A wagon, bacon grease and a panel were used to carry Behemoth jr. to the great beyond, with both parents too passed out to intervene.
>Off they went to the neighbors as to not arouse suspicion, and they found a family who would take their pleas
P7
>-for a new home seriously and find them a farmstead for them to live on, and baby too. And so they went, not caring for their old parents and established a new life for themselves. Their "sister" became 4x the size of a normal human and carried the spotlight in their rural homestead, helping their new parents gain more property through showmanship and squeezing poachers, extortioners, scammers, potential defilers, telemarketers, burglars, and freezer criminals to death with her massive shoulders and a brick wall. And for decades, they lived in solitude, until their peaceful deaths near their gargantuan sister's 14 children and 20 grandchildren. Nothing was ever heard of by their old parents, for they were too broken to try to make contact.
The end. Goodnight.
Ok. Why him?
the whole thread's been mainly discussing him. just keep looking.
I didn't like the jarring shift from Tai Lung vs Shifu to Po's arrival in the 1st but I was ok with the "how did you do it?" skit of the 2nd.
Dunno why.
I want Tigress to have a corruption arc.
It's a pity that well-made 2D hentai with Tigress is such a rarity. Sabrotiger should get his shit together and make a sequel to this already.
Woke Disney won't allow it though. They're still doing twist villains.
Nah, the moment he got was perfect
>Shifu apologizes, tells him he was wrong, is completely humbled, just for a moment, the briefest moment, Tai Lung has the chance to turn back and you can see he considers it
>Only to discard it for glory
It was perfectly done.
Beating your enemies into submission before marrying them is the American way
What's he doing in the spirit world?
Becoming some mass of negative chi because salt?
Kung Fu Panda 2 is tied with Shrek the Third as the most consistently unfunny Dreamworks film. The comedy is TERRIBLE
Kung Fu Panda 2 had a much better villain with Shen (who Gary Oldman fricking nailed as the voice for). Yea the jokes weren't as clever but the story was amazing.
>long ago, in ancient China, the peawieners ruled over Gongmen City. They brought great joy and prosperity to the city, for they had invented fireworks. But their son, Lord Shen, saw darker power in the fireworks. What had brought color and joy could also bring darkness and destruction. Shen's troubled parents consulted a soothsayer. She foretold that if Shen continued down this dark path, he would be defeated by a warrior of black and white
i knew that i was about to watch a bad movie when this is the first dialogue audiences in the theater hear
I'll admit, that intro was pretty shitty and pretty much spoiled the whole movie.
>the protag will win is a spoiler
what a bunch of morons you are
It's less about him winning and more about us learning how pandas got genocided way ahead of the protagonist.
>and more about us learning how pandas got genocided before the protagonist does
Fixed for clarity.
That's what prophecies are. They basically limit the story to two outcomes- the prophecy comes true (often by semantics) or the prophecy was wrong.
I really liked how they addressed trauma- it's not something you overcome, it's something you learn to accept.
Panda 2 was truly a bad film
Wrong again, Black person. Not even gonna bother answering all of that drivel.
>commits genocide and destroys a thriving village because of a vague prophecy, steals metal all over China, kills the rhyno master, doesn't respect anyone, treats his wolves/gorillas army badly, tosses his late father's throne out of the window, destroys his ancestral home, shows no empathy towards Po for killing his mother, kills his wolf lieutenant, blasts away some of his men, and wants to conquer China and destroy kung fu with fireworks cannons (thus starting the "year of the peawiener" as he calls it)
Shen was so unlikeable
Shen had godtier voice
>Quest for Camelot, Planet 51
Gary Oldman played the main antagonist in animated films before
>Planet 51 : november 2009
>Panda 2 : may 2011
quite close even
Seriously sharkgay, what happened to changing for the better after the mods in the infinite "wisdom" lifted your permaban? This is why people hate you so much and why you got banned in the first place. Frick you.
Who are you talking to anon?
The moron in these
quotes. He pops up with his unsolicited "opinions" for a bunch of different topics and spams them. It originally just started off as spamming Shark Tale threads now he just infests every dreamworks/pixar thread.
>It originally just started off as spamming Shark Tale threads
Sure it's this guy? How can you tell? No "I'm not even gonna bother explaining shit moron" or you get the rope
Because he always goes off on moronic tangents like this and uses the exact same "criticisms" to hate on a handful of popular movies like KFP2. Notice no one even mentioned the movie yet he still feels compelled to shit on it without really talking to anyone.
Why didn't he got scroll again? Because muh darkness in heart?
It's not like when he did get the scroll, it fixed him any, he just lashed out more. It's literally a mirror: saying that it's not about some outside force making you great, it's just you. The problem is that this is a message for the Dragon Warrior, to communicate to them that they have inside them what it takes to be a great protector and hero. When it reflects Tai Lung, it just reflects an angry and resentful man (or snow leopard) willing to harm others if denied what he thinks he's owed.
Kind of hard to grasp a message when you’ve got the kind of issues Tai has going on. Imagine being raised and trained to the point of excessive bodily harm for a singular purpose only to then be denied and have the father figure that did it to you not even defend you to the guy that saw what you were being made into. Now add to that a two decade stint in a prison utterly restrained with abusive guards who me day tell you some other jackass got the thing you were more or less promised by your father who presumably never once taught you to temper your expectations. Tai got every Kung fu lesson in the world except the one he really needed and suffered for it, expecting him to just go “well shit son I guess I get it now” is Chinese mysticism bullshit. Realistically anyone in his position would react more or less the same way assuming they didn’t have an apoplectic rage fueled stroke and die on the spot.
Basado
>unfunny/cringe humor, bad comedic timing, paperthin story without originality or surprises, rushed/erratic pacing, eyerolling dialogue, annoying villain, tedious protagonist, jokes that interrupt serious moments, no interesting or endearing character personalities, cliched drama, 3D "objects at screen" moments, dark color palette, repetitive action, ADHD editing, lazy opening narration, manipulative emotional scenes, pointless cliffhanger ending
truly one of my least favorite animated films in history. Frick you, Dreamworks
Shen never once says the name of any character in the film. Ever. It's like he doesn't care about anyone else to call them by their names, not even the soothsayer or his wolf lieutenant. Tai Lung at least said Shifu, Oogway and Po's names
He cared about Soothsayer though
barely. I'd say she cared more for him than him for her (she's still shown smiling in her last appareance after Shen dies)
that running joke of soothsayer trying to take a bite of Shen's robes should've been cut. It isn't funny and makes him look silly
>KFP1 : no toilet humor whatsoever, which is rare for a Dreamworks film
>KFP2 : dragon costume scene where they "eat" soldiers through dragon's mouth, give them a beating inside, and then "poop" them out through the dragon's tail, even using them as projectiles against other soldiers. Bunny kid nearby makes a disgusted sound upon seeing it
Obsessed