>ITT: We guess the next big Hollywood franchise
Now that capeshit is dead what will be next ?for me? I’d guess Michael Moorwienerian eternal champion saga
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>least demented Moorwiener protag
>first chronological novel starts with him lusting after his sister
He’s literally me
>lusting after his sister
Cymoril is his cousin , who is the sister of Yrkoon who is his enemy , but yeah. Wild stuff
>Yrkoon
>Hyrkoon the Hero
>Eldric Shadowchaser
I fricking hate GRRM sack of LARD
>Seasons that last for years, and the cycle of which forms the basis of their society
Oh, my sweet summer child
There's so many references to a great many authors, that it can't be anything except homage. He was close friends with Roger Zelazny, after all, and Zelazny's writing greatly influenced GoT.
>Moor wiener
Moop wiener*
>White protagonist
Nah, never going to happen.
Could hire a black actor and paint him white
Looked fricking stupid on Doctor Manhattan in the Watchmen TV show so I don’t think it’d work here.
Delroy of Melonmuhboner
Read the comic of this, thought it was really juvenile frankly and quite shit. There's a demon, I don't recall its name, that Elric's people worship and he's a naked albino child. Well, in the comic he's covered up by clouds and shit, so I don't think it'd be a good look in Peadowood to have that character be in anything.
There have been a lot of comic book interpretations of Moorwiener’s work . In fact titan books has an entire line of “Moorwiener library” books with some great artists working on it. Check your local comic shop or Amazon to learn more(wiener)
Titan was the one I read, I have the first four volumes.
Honestly, I was disappointed by the entire saga. Juvenile is a good description.
Moorwiener is a hack; he was the early 1970s British equivalent of GRR Martin.
I mean, he still is. He's the memes made about GRRM personified and then some
>thinks he's a better writer than he really is
>hates Tolkien with a passion
>hates that other fantasy writers (like Tolkien) are more famous than him
>hasn't really written anything significant since his earlier books
>thinks he's still an edgy teenager rebelling against society
he's still an edgy teenager rebelling against society
This is the one that I find most tiresome about the BB generation. I'm happy they found a voice in their youth, and some of them became famous for expressing it well, but decades have passed and the villains of their youth are gone and now they themselves are the establishment.
>They became what they hated
Ironic
For what it is it aint horrible , Its supposed to be an inverse of Conan it works on that level. Im not going to pretend that its really good but its decent
>Conan
I wish there was more Solomon Kane content
There's a movie but it's nothing special. It's likely the best we'll ever get though, I don't expect any of these new adaptations to be very faithful to the source.
The Solomon Kane movie was complete ass though
Some of it is but you could hardly describe the revenge of the rose or the fortress of the pearl as juvenile
the comics are edgy
the stories are good
the witcher novels are about trying to impregnate a 15 year old girl so who knows
Grrms autistic obsession with elric led to some of his worst writing and world building
Got some examples to share, anon?
Everything even adjacent to Valyria and all the Azor Ahai shit
I dont know why this hasnt come up yet. Violent YA fiction with lots of reference to world mythology and a diverse cast of heroes, you'd think Hollywood would be all over it.
>David Levin, the narrator of the book, is the new kid in his school. He gets in a fight with Christopher Hitchwiener after being seen going out with his girlfriend, Senna Wales. Jalil, a fellow student, and Senna's half-sister, April O'Brien, appear in the scene, which marks the point where four of the main characters first get together. The next day, early in the morning all four are mysteriously drawn to Senna, who is sitting next to a lake. Suddenly, without a warning all five of them are sucked into a different world which is called Everworld.
>David, Christopher, Jalil and April wake up in the captivity of Norse god Loki, who claims to have opened the portal into the "Old World" so that his son, Fenrir, could bring Senna, who he calls a witch, to him. He reveals that he intended to use her as a gateway to the Old World. After Loki realizes the four cannot help him, he orders their death, but their escape due to David's heroic actions with a sword, and the laws of the universe (such as the rate of acceleration) not working as they would in the Old World (which the group calls the "real world").
>The group take refuge in a Viking camp posing as minstrels, and are sheltered by Olaf Ironfoot (the leader) as a defiance to Loki. The Vikings sail to war, along with David, Christopher, Jalil and April, against the Aztecs and their heart-eating god Huitzilopoctli. The Vikings inform them that Loki will release their God, Odin One-Eye, the ransom being Huitzilopoctli's head. They intend to kill him using Thor's hammer Mjolnir.
>The book ends at the beginning of the battle, where David, Christopher, Jalil and the Viking men appear to be winning against the Aztecs. It ends with the appearance of Huitzilopoctli, who has arrived to join the battle.
>K.A. Applegate
b***h wrote the "Animorphs" series which were heavy for being YA novels
Holy shit, another Everworld reader. Where were you those pasts ten years? I fricking wish there was a show which would give an actual ending to the books
I'd like it, but apparently someone already tried it and was told it was "too much like The Witcher", which is funny because the Elric books precede the Witche rby several years
Legacy of Kain games already copied Elric and they did it quite well.
>blood and souls for my lord arioch
Corum would film better.
>Corum
Yes ...
However of all the Eternal Champion stories, Hawkmoon would make the best modern day adaptation as it's vaguely alt history & steampunk (so visually distinctive from Rings of Power. Witcher etc) and the bad guys are white British men AND Nazi degenerates.
>steampunk
The oswald bastable books would do nicely
>Hawkmoon would make the best modern day adaptation
He's also The only Eternal Champion to get a happy ending
Hyperion series directed by Bradley Cooper.
>Palestinian main character
not gonna happen ever
>Palestinian
Whos that, kassad? I thought he was from mars.
mars was settled by Palestinians lmao. kassad is culturally / ethnically palestinian
>culturally / ethnically palestinian
No such thing
Maybe Hawkwind would be a better choice to start with?
We're talking Cinemaphile, not Cinemaphile adaptation.
The greatest scifi film never made
Didn't care much for The Player of Games. Does the series get any better?
Im not a massive banks fan, but against a dark background is great. Has a different style from his other stuff, and is a standalone story. Quite cyberpunk.
No, Player of Games is very representative of the Culture books, only the main character is a gamer beta male instead of a completely amoral criminal.
It's not a bad idea. Our culture seems to be in an introspective doom-spiral stage, so it may resonate as art.
There's also a lot of artists and writers who love the character too. There's rich ground here. The question is, do audiences want a high-fantasy pic about a drug addicted incestual quitter who is arguably more goth than Dracula? Is there resonance within our culture for a doomed-hero, the Eternal Champion?
Would Benedict Cumberbatch be suitable for the role, with his weird skull...?
>do audiences want a high-fantasy pic about a drug addicted incestual quitter who is arguably more goth than Dracula?
Doubt it, he would get memed into oblivion.
I'm sure they'd find SOME way to make Melnibone be "Trump's America" and have an epic hypercompetent yassqueen take over the duty of destroying it while Elric moans about in a drug haze.
It's video games. Super Mario and Five Night's at Freddy's did extremely well at the BO. Last of Us was also a huge success at the tv.
I don't care if they're edgy schlock, the novels are edgekino and the French comic looked godly. I want a return to the Grunge/Y2K era with things like Ghost Rider, Underworld, Constantine and the such. Edge needs to come back and Elric is prime.
The french comic kicked ass , those frenchies make some good comics
Truth. I bought the hardcover box set too. The art just kicks ass.
If everything comes in 20 year cycles, then we should be getting right into the Noughties revival. I suppose we'll see. I'm holding out hope, anyhow. I need some good edge after decades of quips.
Those were too colourfully kitschy for me. Elric is too edgy and schlocky to be that. Fantasy Hellraiser fit.
>edge comics as fuel for new motion picture IP’s
The relative success of The Boys on Amazon proves this is workable, however it’d be nice if the people adapting the stories stopped thinking they were smarter than the original authors.
Kind of, but The Boys is a darkly humorous take on the superhero formula. Not quite the same as self-serious edge like, say, Punisher or Spawn.
Yeah, Joker and Logan are the only actual edgy cape movies released in recent memory. The Batman came close but that was PG.
You have some stuff on the tv end, like Swamp Thing and Daredevil, but those are over and I doubt Disney's revival of the show will have the same feel.
The Echo trailer seemed pretty close in tone to Netflix Daredevil.
Werewolf by Night was also on the edgier side but I think that's Disney testing the waters on whether there's viewership for that kind of stuff.
The comics had comic elements Center ing around Hughie (for a reason that is reveled late in the story) but were extremely serious in terms of the main antagonist’s goals, motives and methods.
Yeah the comic book reputation of the Boys is extremely overplayed. People talk about it like Ennis hates the very concept of superheroes and poured all his spite into the story but it's much more a comic against the derive of capitalism and superheroes are just used to represent the product any company would be willing to sell you to make a buck
>the comic book reputation of the Boys is extremely overplayed
I disagree, personally. I find most people who criticise the books haven’t actually read them. They read to a certain point then decide it’s not for them and carry that opinion forward despite not finishing the story..
I’ll agree that it does an excellent job of asking questions about the military-industrial complex and the nature of corporatist influence on politics.
Speaking of which I wonder why none of Rich Veitch's stuff has never bee adapted
Maximortal is too Meta and Brat Pack is so edgy that it reads like a parody of edgy 80s comics (maybe it was?)
The One would be cool
Anyways that is to say: I hope he finishes his maximortal saga
>Boy Maximortal
>4 volumes
>100 pages each
> only 50 are the actual comic
I liked getting the rare Veitch stuff in the back.
>30th anniversary edition of Brat Pack
>its only in paper back
lame
Isn't there a hardcover version by IDW?
maybe. I was just looking at Amazon to see if Rick came out with a new book and the 30th anniversary edition came out
Personally I prefer the original 80's comics,I don't care for the "changes" that were made in the french version
>10 books
I've been wondering why the big media producers haven't picked up Weber, Turtledove, Stirling, etc. type stories like alternate history, fantasy, and so forth
pic related is actually perfect for nowadays since there's a black lesbian samurai who is captain of the coast guard ship. I like the trilogy but I wanted to smash my head into the wall after a while with her chapters
Because 99% of Hollywood slop is alt-history already
-We went to war to liberate the camps
-Female warriors were feared and ruthless
-Europe has always been full of Africans and Indians
-Colonialism was horrible and evil and white colonisers never did anything good for their colonies
Also, alt-history is the single dumbest genre in the literary pantheon. I have yet to meet an alt-history buff who knows a goddamn thing about actual history or has an IQ above 90. Sorry to rain on your ‘what if the Confederacy invented the maxim gun’ wet dreams, Anon.
damn I never asked tho
>High dark fantasy
>Built in multiverse
>Inspiration for multiple characters including Game of Thrones Targaryens
I don't want them to fricking touch it
Same with Book of the New Sun. I dont want any of what they would produce because it would either be cast horribly (DUNC, Rangz) or it just would not live up to expectations
Given One Piece's moderate success as an adaptation I think manga will be the main focus of the industry in the next few years. They do come with advantages
>Clearly the rising star in book sales in the west, easily surpassing comics
>Most live-action adaptations have not left an impression on people (or when it did it wasn't a good one)
>Lot of manga already have a lot of material to use for an adaptation, it's like needing to adapt a book but the author helpfully drew everything so you can pay your own designers less.
The disadvantages, of course, are the high barrier of entry for adaptations (costs will be high) and the constant comparison with the anime. But mark my word that by 2028 we'll have Naruto, Bleach, and Demon Slayer on streaming platforms
Yeah manga and video game adaptations will be the next big thing
Oh yeah, they'll definitely do series of the more cinematic video games
>Assassin's Creed (already did a movie on it with Fassbender, pretty sure I saw it actually)
>Nu-God of War (they'll mostly skip the first 3 games though, with just occasional flashbacks to it)
>Probably Baldur's Gate 3 because the industry only goes for the freshest blood
Cyberpunk would work well for that, esp after the anime success.
A proper 1:1 live action Death Note TV series would be a massive deal. Netflix kind of doomed themselves by putting out that shitty movie when they did
Not a bad prediction, I wish it wouldnt happen but cant stop ze israelitez once they sniff money.
It’s easy to rip off manga instead of paying for a direct adaptation.
While they are popular it’s not like they have been popular for 80 years like Spider-Man or something (at least in the west)
I've read a few of these and really wasn't that impressed
just edgy
for all the complaints about him GRRM is significantly less cynical and edgy than Moorwiener
>Universal is just squatting on the rights to Lord of Light
bros... with a completely lack of irony, I want zsnyder to make this book into a franchise
Is the eternal champion saga actually unironically good?
>let hollywood destroy even more properties
I'd rather not
Man, that's a cool illustration
Artist's name is Piotr Jablonski, here's the full version
Moorewiener, Micheal?
>Most watched movies on television or in theatres
>1 billion - The Wizard of Oz (The Library of Congress) - Musical
>500 Million - Michael Jackson's Black or White (Fox) - Musical
>500 Million - Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Walt Disney) - Musical
>400 Million - Titanic (Ticket Admissions + TV airing)
>300 Million - Gone with the Wind (MGM) - Historical
>300 Million - Avengers Endgame (Ticket Admissions) - Superhero
>300 Million - Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (Ticket Admissions) - Sci-Fi
Titanic is pure schlock who likes that shit exactly?
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I fricking love all the crazy psychedelic shit from the 60s/70s, literature music art..
Love me some Elric but man some of those novels are fricking hard to read. They don't all make sense or go chronologically. One is just him wandering around the desert and then he teleports to another dimension where he meets 3 other versions of himself who are totally different people and then they merge into a weird multiface he-man guy in order to fight a tentacle creature from beyond the stars that comes out of a pool of rainbows in a crystal palace or some such whacked out shit. It's all just stuff Moorwiener remembered to scribble down on damp sheets of paper in between acid trips and mail in to the scifi mags of the day, and I love him for it.
that's outta the second book which is literally a hodgepodge of random short stories he lazily pieced together. it was actually my first experience with the Elric stories for some reason and it was mostly annoying because i was thinking "the frick? multiverse homosexual shit and DBZ fusion dance shit already?" even though he basically invented the thing.
Prime has the Elric license.
I wish I could be a successful fantasy author just so I can say no one gets my fricking license when I die.
They will make rambo style murrika good movies and they will "succeed"
Lord of the Rings style fantasy series about the Founding Fathers
What's their best songs?
It would be funny if it went full circle and it was just endless westerns all over again
>hollywood
>ever doing some obscure incel fantasy
The new big thing is Warhammer 40k. After that its
I really, really wanted to like Elric but the first chapter of the first book where Elric is all like
>Dumb fricking normies, UGH I hate this society, it's so tragic being too intelligent for normalgays because I'm a sickly nerd that's read all the books in the world
And then completely BTFOs Chad McNormie and his hot cousin is all like
>Wow, Elric is so smart and mysterious, none of us will ever understand his high IQ takes on democracy and freedom, what a stud.
Was too much for me. This might have been cool in the 1960s but looking at it with modern eyes it's Wattpad tier. The human slave organ of people surgically modified to scream one note each was a cool image though.
Wouldn't object to an animated Earthsea
didn't ghibli attempt that at one point
>Miyazaki wanted to make Earthsea for decades
>Makes Nausicaa instead
>Finally get the chance
>Hands it over to his less experience son